Re: [Gimp-user] How do I merge pictures?

2004-05-09 Thread Joachim Schiele
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On Sunday 09 May 2004 04:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, I don't know what to ask for in the help file so bear with me please.
 I'm new.

 I have 6 files in which I have cut out an image.  I would like to merge
 all 6 of these files into one file or picture.  I might also like to add a
 background, but the background can wait.  I don't have a clue how to get
 all 6 pictures into one.  When I have the 6 files in one file, I will need
 to be able to move them around to get the final picture.  Then I need to
 save this final picture.

 Could you direct me as to how to do this? I'm lost.  I haven't updated to
 version 2 yet.  ( I've been afraid to do this, is version 2 really stable?
 ) And these files are tiff if that matters, and I have windows 98.

you can use the 2.x versions they are nice and stable and the 2.x series of 
gimp has a very advanced interface navigation!

you should create a new image with the desired size (of the biggest image of 
your six images) next you would open all the images (because gimp can open 
serveral images at once) then use the marker tool select retangular regions 
an select one of your images and press CTRL+C. now go back to your primary 
image and press CTRL+V there. Create a new layer, select it and do it again 
for all the other images.
new layer -  select it - copy image in
...
you may need transparency tough
http://gimp.org/tutorials/Changing_Background_Color_1/

joachim


 Thanks
 Sandy

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[Gimp-user] Gimp and web site design.

2004-05-09 Thread John Culleton
I found the comments below from a friend of mine on another 
list provaocative. She is not a Gimp user. I wonder how 
many of her cautions are universal and how many just 
dependent on the program used to create the graphics?
-quote begins---
I visit lots of authors' sites and see many that are 
gorgeous. The thing that always tips me off as to whether 
they're professionally done or not is the graphics. I 
cannot stand jagged edges around images, banners, etc. Even 
the most inexperienced designer can clean that up and do it 
properly at low resolution, so, I guess it's not so much 
that it's a sign of being an amateur  - to me anyway - that 
it's a sign of not caringlack of pride in the work. 
Even if a person simply cannot create clean edges (one of 
the most common mistakes is using tansparent on a layer - 
transparent doesn't work..you  need to use the background 
colour as the background colour on the image around any 
curved lines. Also that delete background rarely gives a 
clean lift - that all needs to be erased one pixel at a 
time.) they can go with text only, or visit one of the 
1000s of sites that offer free web tools, or avoid curved 
edges (in most cases jaggies are only an issue around 
curved edges). Round
 buttons only look nice if they're done properly. Square 
(with no transparency and no background) and text buttons 
work just as well and will give a more polished look.

I'm not a web designer by any means, so maybe those on the 
group who are can offer more insight into this.

---end quote
BTW I have permission to quote the above from the author. 

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp and web site design.

2004-05-09 Thread Michael Schumacher
John Culleton wrote:
I found the comments below from a friend of mine on another 
list provaocative. She is not a Gimp user. I wonder how 
many of her cautions are universal and how many just 
dependent on the program used to create the graphics?
-quote begins---
I visit lots of authors' sites and see many that are 
gorgeous. The thing that always tips me off as to whether 
they're professionally done or not is the graphics. I 
cannot stand jagged edges around images, banners, etc. Even 
the most inexperienced designer can clean that up and do it 
properly at low resolution, so, I guess it's not so much 
that it's a sign of being an amateur  - to me anyway - that 
it's a sign of not caringlack of pride in the work. 
Well, if someone cannot stand jaggies at edges, this is a mere 
subjective impression. However, many people think like this, so it might 
be a good idea to create smooth edges if you don't want jaggies 
intentionally.

Even if a person simply cannot create clean edges (one of 
the most common mistakes is using tansparent on a layer - 
transparent doesn't work..you  need to use the background 
colour as the background colour on the image around any 
curved lines. Also that delete background rarely gives a 
clean lift - that all needs to be erased one pixel at a 
time.) they can go with text only, or visit one of the 
1000s of sites that offer free web tools, or avoid curved 
edges (in most cases jaggies are only an issue around 
curved edges). Round
 buttons only look nice if they're done properly. Square 
(with no transparency and no background) and text buttons 
work just as well and will give a more polished look.
The term transparency here is ambiguous - from the text, it seems like 
your friend talks about the kind of transparency used in e.g. GIF - 
either full or no transparency.

When using a full alpha channel, things are different.

I'm not a web designer by any means, so maybe those on the 
group who are can offer more insight into this.

---end quote
BTW I have permission to quote the above from the author. 
All the cautions do not really depend on the program used to create the 
images - unless you decide to use a paint program only capable of 16 
colors ;) I don't think any real image editing software can't do the 
things your firend describes.

They do however strongly depend on the program used to view the 
graphics. When talking about the web, this means web browsers.

HTH,
Michael
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Re: [Gimp-user] How do I merge pictures?

2004-05-09 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
Hi,

On Sun, 2004-05-09 at 11:03, Joachim Schiele wrote:
 you should create a new image with the desired size (of the biggest image of 
 your six images) next you would open all the images (because gimp can open 
 serveral images at once) then use the marker tool select retangular regions 
 an select one of your images and press CTRL+C. now go back to your primary 
 image and press CTRL+V there. Create a new layer, select it and do it again 
 for all the other images.
 new layer -  select it - copy image in

... or just drag-and-drop the layers of the images on to another image.

./Brix
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[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp and web site design.

2004-05-09 Thread GSR - FR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-05-09 at 0739.12 -1000):
 I found the comments below from a friend of mine on another 
 list provaocative. She is not a Gimp user. I wonder how 
 many of her cautions are universal and how many just 
 dependent on the program used to create the graphics?
[...]

All apps I know can do it, of course people just have to know what is
going on. Also, it would be a lot simpler if some web browsers did it
right to begin with and transparency worked in them as it should.

GSR
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp and web site design.

2004-05-09 Thread David Neary
Hi John,

John Culleton wrote:
 I wonder how 
 many of her cautions are universal and how many just 
 dependent on the program used to create the graphics?

Her comments on web graphics are, IMHO, universal, as opposed 
to limited to one program or another.

 Even if a person simply cannot create clean edges (one of 
 the most common mistakes is using tansparent on a layer - 
 transparent doesn't work..you  need to use the background 
 colour as the background colour on the image around any 
 curved lines. Also that delete background rarely gives a 
 clean lift - that all needs to be erased one pixel at a 
 time.) they can go with text only, or visit one of the 
 1000s of sites that offer free web tools, or avoid curved 
 edges (in most cases jaggies are only an issue around 
 curved edges).

This is a fair comment. Transparency (in GIF, and as supported by
IE in indexed PNGs) is limited to one palette entry which is
completely transparent, and the rest completely opaque. Usually,
smooth rounded edges are obtained by antialiasing the curve,
going in grades from opaque to transparent over a number of
pixels. Since you can't antialias to transparent in gif,
round edges usually look crap. However, if you have a background
that isn't transparent, then you can antialias from white to
green, say, just fine, and have some of that smoothness kept
across an indexing operation.

However, PNG supports indexing much more advanced than that -
essentially, an indexed palette entry in png has an alpha
component, so with indexed png you can antialias to transparent.
However, this isn't supported in IE for Windows. You can also use
32 bit PNG which is funny supported on both IE and Mozilla, but
is a much larger file size.

Cheers,
Dave.

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[Gimp-user] Automated picture sender

2004-05-09 Thread Gilles Lévesque
One of my custommers want a box that when someone enter an email address
take a picture of this person and send this picture to the email address
entered with a different background. These backgrounds will be previously
added in the box. This will be something like big box in airports...

Someone can help me?

Gilles Lévesque, RHCE
MAG Datacom
373, Témiscouata
Rivière-du-Loup, Québec
G5R 2Y9

Tel : (418) 867-8656
Fax : (418) 867-3870


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[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp and web site design.

2004-05-09 Thread GSR - FR
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-05-09 at 1806.45 +0200):
 However, PNG supports indexing much more advanced than that -
 essentially, an indexed palette entry in png has an alpha
 component, so with indexed png you can antialias to transparent.
 However, this isn't supported in IE for Windows. You can also use
 32 bit PNG which is funny supported on both IE and Mozilla, but
 is a much larger file size.

GIMP does not support indexed RGBA (palette items are four channels,
so all can have some level of transparency, vs typical GIF's one
colour is transp only) and dunno which tool does it. But there
typical problem is that IE does not support 32 bit PNG as it should,
that is, without tricks (some pretty complex). For simplest trick see:
http://www.phoenity.com/newtedge/png_degradability/

GSR
 
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[Gimp-user] How do I get version 2?

2004-05-09 Thread Corasande
I am not having any luck downloading version 2.0.1, here is what I've tried:

I went to www.gimp.org 
clicked on gimp for windows. clicked on downloads, was sent to ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.0/ there got a tree I didn't understand.

Then I went back to www.gimp.org and clicked ftp.gimp.org and got a page with a set of folders that I don't understand

So then I went back to www.gimp.org and clicked on mirrors. Got a whole list of sites, and tried 4 of them which hung up the browser (Explorer) had to use control/alt/delete to get out of it, so I then gave up.

I know most of you will say not to use windows, but how do I do it with windows, as that is what I have?

Thanks
Sandy

 



re: [Gimp-user] How do I get version 2?

2004-05-09 Thread Joachim Schiele
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http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/stable.html
http://gimp.org/windows/

try the download section for windows next time ;-)
http://www.gashalot.com/files/gimp-win32/gtk+-2.2.4-20040124-setup.zip
http://www.gashalot.com/files/gimp-win32/gimp-2.0.1-i586-setup-1.zip

you should consider the gimp help files, too:
http://www.gashalot.com/files/gimp-win32/gimp-help-2-0.2-setup.zip

go and take some time (a few hours) and get together with the help files from 
above trough some tutorials. that is what i did first ;-)

and never forget: gimp is as good as photoshop, at least for the purpose 
you'll need it i assume ;-)

http://gimp.org/tutorials/

good luck

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RE: [Gimp-user] Making an image with a white background transparent?

2004-05-09 Thread dreadnought
Hi Harish,

That worked awesome!  The transparency looks much better than what one of my
coworkers pumped out in Macromedia Fireworks .. I have one problem though,
alluded to in the tutorial you mentioned.  There's a graphic in the logo I'm
working on that was some white in it, which got removed by the Color To
Alpha procedure.  The tutorial mentions painting underneath the image to
replace the white that should be part of the graphic, but doesn't go into
how to do this?

Thanks again for the advice,

Mark

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From: Harish Narayanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 4:07 PM
To: dreadnought
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transparent?

dreadnought wrote:

Is there a resource geared for newbies on how to do this?
  

Sure, here you go:

http://gimp.org/tutorials/Changing_Background_Color_1/
(And you obviously wouldn't need to do step 5 on that tutorial.)

Harish | http://wahgnube.org





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RE: [Gimp-user] Making an image with a white background transparent?

2004-05-09 Thread dreadnought
Quick update .. I'm trying to use the bucket fill for the area I need to
replace the white in.  The bucket fill works perfect in the sense that it
fills the correct area, but it fills it in red!  Both my foreground and
background colors are set to white.  I don't understand where the red is
coming from.  I've tried this a bunch of times - no matter what my
foreground and background colors are set to, when I click the bucket fill in
the area, it gets filled in red.

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Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 12:58 PM
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Subject: RE: [Gimp-user] Making an image with a white background
transparent?

Hi Harish,

That worked awesome!  The transparency looks much better than what one of my
coworkers pumped out in Macromedia Fireworks .. I have one problem though,
alluded to in the tutorial you mentioned.  There's a graphic in the logo I'm
working on that was some white in it, which got removed by the Color To
Alpha procedure.  The tutorial mentions painting underneath the image to
replace the white that should be part of the graphic, but doesn't go into
how to do this?

Thanks again for the advice,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Harish Narayanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 4:07 PM
To: dreadnought
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Making an image with a white background
transparent?

dreadnought wrote:

Is there a resource geared for newbies on how to do this?
  

Sure, here you go:

http://gimp.org/tutorials/Changing_Background_Color_1/
(And you obviously wouldn't need to do step 5 on that tutorial.)

Harish | http://wahgnube.org





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Re: [Gimp-user] Making an image with a white background transparent?

2004-05-09 Thread Marco Wessel
On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 12:57:59PM -0700, dreadnought wrote:

 The tutorial mentions painting underneath the image to
 replace the white that should be part of the graphic, but doesn't go
 into how to do this?

You can either select the region you don't want included, invert it, and
then apply colour to alpha (thus excluding the white parts of the
graphic), or you can create a new layer under the layer with your
graphic and paint white into that.

Marco
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RE: [Gimp-user] Making an image with a white background transparent?

2004-05-09 Thread dreadnought
Hi Marco,

Selecting, inverting, then Color To Alpha worked perfectly .. Thanks for
your help.  I didn't realize how powerful the Gimp was!

Mark

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Making an image with a white background
transparent?

On Sun, May 09, 2004 at 12:57:59PM -0700, dreadnought wrote:

 The tutorial mentions painting underneath the image to replace the 
 white that should be part of the graphic, but doesn't go into how to 
 do this?

You can either select the region you don't want included, invert it, and
then apply colour to alpha (thus excluding the white parts of the graphic),
or you can create a new layer under the layer with your graphic and paint
white into that.

Marco
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