[Gimp-user] problem to compile gimp 2.0.5 on Solaris 9

2004-11-16 Thread Luc Novalès
Hi,
I can't acceed to recent archives on :
https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-user/
and I don't know if there was a similar thread.
I verified gimp requirement, and install libraries packages from :
http://www.sunfreeware.com/
except for lib gtk2.2.4 (compiled on target host).
GIMP compile error is about undeclared param logo_data in
./plug-ins/gimpressionist/gimpressionist.c
at line :
pixbuf = gdk_pixbuf_new_from_inline (-1, logo_data, FALSE, NULL);
It seems that it wait for an header in gdk, but where ?
(This declaration is also required to compile on others platforms)
It compile if I declare logo_data explicitly as :
guint8* logo_data;
but execution produces a segmentation fault as :
7:02 30 - gimp --verbose --console-messages --stack-trace-mode always
   0
INIT: gimp_load_config
Lecture de « /usr/local/etc/gimp/2.0/gimprc »
Lecture de « /home/my-home/.gimp-2.0/gimprc »
gimp_composite: use=yes, verbose=no
Processor instruction sets: -mmx -sse -sse2 -3dnow -altivec -vis
Ajout du thème « Default » (/usr/local/share/gimp/2.0/themes/Default)
Ajout du thème « Small » (/usr/local/share/gimp/2.0/themes/Small)
Écriture de « /home/my-home/.gimp-2.0/themerc »
INIT: gimp_initialize
INIT: gimp_real_initialize
INIT: gui_initialize_after_callback
INIT: gimp_restore
INIT: gui_restore_callback
gimp: fatal error: Erreur de segmentation
Any suggestion ?
Thanks,
Luc.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie question - plugins in windows xp

2004-11-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Scott Binns [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So, my question now is, how do I build the plugin?  What
 configuration/tools do I need, and what steps to I follow to get the
 .exe?

You need a C compiler and you need the libgimp header files. GIMP
comes with a tool called gimptool that helps you to choose the right
compiler flags to locate the headers and to link with the GIMP
libraries. There's a Win32 version of gimptool but I am not sure if it
is part of the installer. However it should be available from
http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/downloads.html


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie question - plugins in windows xp

2004-11-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Matthew H. Plough [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

First of all, thank you to Carol for being so helpful on this issue.
I praise your willingness to help people out, and go beyond the call
of duty in providing useful information.  If you and Sven were not
high-ups, you would be banned for being trolls.
This is the best I can do for now since I have a ton of work.
Scott, I had a bit of trouble compiling plugins on Windows, but I have
a method that worked well for RawPhoto.  I have not been able to get
gimptool-2.0 to do anything but crash, but this method circumvents
gimptool.
First of all, you'll need a compiler.  Head over to
http://www.cygwin.com and grab the Cygwin setup.  Run it, and install
for all users, and make the default text file type Unix (just for the
heck of it).  Choose a fast mirror -- mirrors.kernel.org works for me
-- and download some packages.  It might take some looking through the
list, but you'll need *at least*:
(devel)
- gcc
- gcc-core
- g++
- binutils
- make
- pkgconfig
- mingw runtime
(interpreters)
- gawk
(libs) -- get doc, devel, and runtime just to be safe
- atk
- freetype
- glib
- gtk+
- libiconv
- pango

You only need all this if you want to compile GIMP and all it's
dependencies from source. If you just want to compiler a GIMP plug-in
you need nothing but a C compiler (not necessarily gcc) and the
libgimp header file.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] problem to compile gimp 2.0.5 on Solaris 9

2004-11-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Luc Novals [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I can't acceed to recent archives on :
 https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-user/
 and I don't know if there was a similar thread.

 I verified gimp requirement, and install libraries packages from :
 http://www.sunfreeware.com/

 except for lib gtk2.2.4 (compiled on target host).

 GIMP compile error is about undeclared param logo_data in
 ./plug-ins/gimpressionist/gimpressionist.c
 at line :
 pixbuf = gdk_pixbuf_new_from_inline (-1, logo_data, FALSE, NULL);

 It seems that it wait for an header in gdk, but where ?
 (This declaration is also required to compile on others platforms)

The header is logo-pixbuf.h which is supposed to be generated in the
gimpressionist source directory. Try 'make logo-pixbuf.h' in the
gimpressionist directory.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Newbie question - plugins in windows xp

2004-11-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Some users reported that the gimptool executable doesn't work
 correctly. I don't think anyone invested much time in this, since
 everyone who seems to be able to compile gimp and plug-ins so far uses
 cygwin and/or mingw and thus thze gimptool bash script.

 I'm a bit surprised that it shouldn't take more to get plug-ins
 compiled - wouldn't they at least need gtk+ and/or glib?

Well, yes. You also need the GLib and GTK+ header files. These are
also available from http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/downloads.html.

It would probably be nice if the installer for Win32 would at least
optionally install these header files as well as the gimptool
executable. I am not claiming that this would solve all problems but
at least it would give us a chance to find out what other measures
need to be taken.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] problem to compile gimp 2.0.5 on Solaris 9

2004-11-16 Thread Luc Novalès
Sven Neumann a crit :
Hi,
Luc Novals [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I can't acceed to recent archives on :
https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-user/
and I don't know if there was a similar thread.
I verified gimp requirement, and install libraries packages from :
http://www.sunfreeware.com/
except for lib gtk2.2.4 (compiled on target host).
GIMP compile error is about undeclared param logo_data in
./plug-ins/gimpressionist/gimpressionist.c
at line :
pixbuf = gdk_pixbuf_new_from_inline (-1, logo_data, FALSE, NULL);
It seems that it wait for an header in gdk, but where ?
(This declaration is also required to compile on others platforms)

The header is logo-pixbuf.h which is supposed to be generated in the
gimpressionist source directory. Try 'make logo-pixbuf.h' in the
gimpressionist directory.
Sven
Thanks for this reply.
make logo-pxbuf.h generates an error with this command
gdk-pixbuf-csource --raw --name=logo_data  logo-pixbuf.h
If I change manually to
gdk-pixbuf-csource --raw --name=logo_data logo.png  logo-pixbuf.h
(logo.png is the only image in this directory), logo-pixbuf.h is 
generated, compilation and install are ok, but execution abort with 
segmentation fault just after tools options load splash screen.

log is :
--
16:38 49 - source mon_gimp_debug 
   0
INIT: gimp_load_config
Lecture de  /usr/local/etc/gimp/2.0/gimprc 
Lecture de  /home/me/.gimp-2.0/gimprc 
gimp_composite: use=yes, verbose=no
Processor instruction sets: -mmx -sse -sse2 -3dnow -altivec -vis
Ajout du thme  Default  (/usr/local/share/gimp/2.0/themes/Default)
Ajout du thme  Small  (/usr/local/share/gimp/2.0/themes/Small)
criture de  /home/me/.gimp-2.0/themerc 
INIT: gimp_initialize
INIT: gimp_real_initialize
INIT: gui_initialize_after_callback
INIT: gimp_restore
INIT: gui_restore_callback
gimp: fatal error: Erreur de segmentation
--

Note : there is no errors errors in config.log at plugins section :
-
...
config.status:1107: creating plug-ins/gflare/gflares/Makefile
config.status:1107: creating plug-ins/gfli/Makefile
config.status:1107: creating plug-ins/gimpressionist/Makefile
config.status:1107: creating plug-ins/gimpressionist/Brushes/Makefile
config.status:1107: creating plug-ins/gimpressionist/Paper/Makefile
config.status:1107: creating plug-ins/gimpressionist/Presets/Makefile
config.status:1107: creating plug-ins/help/Makefile
config.status:1107: creating plug-ins/helpbrowser/Makefile
...
-
Luc.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2, First impressions

2004-11-16 Thread Jozsef Mak
I have just installed Gimp 2.2 on my windows box and these are my first 
impressions. Over all I like the way this version turned out. The new 
filters are impressive; I like the new save and open dialogue boxes; also 
the cleaned up Script-fu plug ins; but here, I observed that sometimes the 
dialogue window pops up behind the main window rather than in the front. But 
not always, why is this?
I like the new rotation window but I have problem with the scale function. 
When I scale a selection, sometimes a duplicate image appears in the window. 
When I hit the scale button the original image gets scaled but occasionally 
the secondary image remains on the screen. Then I have to move the original 
one over the remnants; this then erases it as the eraser tool does. I don’t 
know anybody has experienced similar problems.
Also, when I scale a selection the small-scale box with the little corners 
doesn’t surround exactly the image but it appears larger than the actual 
image. I don’t know what causes this.
I like the zoom and the unit settings at the bottom of the main window a 
lot.
One more thing, which is not related to this particular release of Gimp. Why 
is it that the dialogue boxes in Gimp are so large? By the way, this feature 
characterizes most open source applications. If you look at Photoshop or 
Fireworks, for instance, you immediately notice that their dialogue boxes 
are almost half the size of Gimp’s. The brand new New Layer window box has 
four options: Foreground color, Background color, White and Transparency, 
all in one column. If the layout would be two rows rather than a single 
column the height of the dialogue box could be reduced at least 2 cm, which 
would make the window more compact and less obtrusive. The same is the case 
with the filter windows. Next to the preview window there is plenty of 
unused space, which would be a logical location for the preview check box. 
With these rearrangements the filter windows too could have been made 
significantly smaller. I also think that the Save, Cancel and usually the 
dialogue box buttons are way too large, wasting lots of space.
Other than this, I enjoy the new Gimp.

Cheers
Jozsef Mak
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2, First impressions

2004-11-16 Thread Carol Spears
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 12:53:48PM -0500, Jozsef Mak wrote:
 One more thing, which is not related to this particular release of Gimp. 
 Why is it that the dialogue boxes in Gimp are so large? By the way, this 
 feature characterizes most open source applications. If you look at 
 Photoshop or Fireworks, for instance, you immediately notice that their 
 dialogue boxes are almost half the size of Gimp?s. The brand new New Layer 
 window box has four options: Foreground color, Background color, White and 
 Transparency, all in one column. If the layout would be two rows rather 
 than a single column the height of the dialogue box could be reduced at 
 least 2 cm, which would make the window more compact and less obtrusive. 
 The same is the case with the filter windows. Next to the preview window 
 there is plenty of unused space, which would be a logical location for the 
 preview check box. With these rearrangements the filter windows too could 
 have been made significantly smaller. I also think that the Save, Cancel 
 and usually the dialogue box buttons are way too large, wasting lots of 
 space.
 
free software developers are near-sighted?

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2, First impressions

2004-11-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 One more thing, which is not related to this particular release of
 Gimp. Why is it that the dialogue boxes in Gimp are so large?

You could go to the Preferences dialog and select the Small theme. Did
you try that?


Sven
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[Gimp-user] Save AS ?

2004-11-16 Thread Richard
Let say I'm working on a photo and now what to save it as
a jpeg, but in the highest resolution possible, and no extra compress.
What setting would I select on and off?
I say something with floating point?
Thanks in Advance.
Richard

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2, First impressions

2004-11-16 Thread Jozsef Mak
Hi Sven,
Thanks for this advice. I was not aware of this option. The small theme fits 
much better to my taste. But I still think that by fine-tuning the layout 
the dialogue windows can be made more compact.

Regards,
J. Mak

From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2, First impressions
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:22:17 +0100
Hi,
Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 One more thing, which is not related to this particular release of
 Gimp. Why is it that the dialogue boxes in Gimp are so large?
You could go to the Preferences dialog and select the Small theme. Did
you try that?
Sven

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[Gimp-user] Boarders ?

2004-11-16 Thread Richard
Is there a way to add a small black board around a image,
and inside that black boarder add your signature and copyright info. ???
Or did someone make a plugin for this?
Big Thanks
Richard
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Re: [Gimp-user] Boarders ?

2004-11-16 Thread Bob Long
On Wednesday, November 17, 2004 6:54 AM [GMT+1=CET],
Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a way to add a small black board around a image,
Script-Fu|Decor|Add Border
and inside that black boarder add your signature and copyright info.
Well, I guess you can add whatever you like to the image. Or do you mean you 
want to add information onto the border itself? Even so, once the border is 
added it is just part of the image (but the border will be a separate layer 
until you do something like Merge Visible Layers).

Bob Long
???
Or did someone make a plugin for this?
Big Thanks
Richard
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[Gimp-user] transforming with curves

2004-11-16 Thread ben powers
I have an image of a teacup and a sign. I would like to transform  the 
sign so it appears to be printed on the curved surface of the tea cup. 
how can i do that?

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[Gimp-user] Cloning ?

2004-11-16 Thread Richard
I notice in my digital pix, there are some blue spots, or white spots,
missing pix, I guess, instead of doing the despeckle thing,
I doing the cloning thing..
However,  view a image at 1600%, is there a way
to select a larger area say 20x20 blocks(pix) so that would be 400 pix 
blocks,
and then be able to copy that whole area over.

When I selected the 20x20 it left a boarder around the area black.
Thanks-
Richard
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2, First impressions

2004-11-16 Thread Tom . Williams





The goal for 2.2 was to achieve a consistent and pleasant look. We
followed the advices of the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines and used
the spacings suggested there for most dialogs.

Does this mean Gimp on Windows will have a GNOME feel to it?

Peace...

Tom

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2, First impressions

2004-11-16 Thread Jozsef Mak

From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.2, First impressions
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:57:06 +0100
Hi,
Jozsef Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Thanks for this advice. I was not aware of this option. The small
 theme fits much better to my taste. But I still think that by
 fine-tuning the layout the dialogue windows can be made more
 compact.
The goal for 2.2 was to achieve a consistent and pleasant look. We
followed the advices of the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines and used
the spacings suggested there for most dialogs. We might consider to
allow these spacings to be customized using style properties. This
would make it possible to tune thes from the theme. That would be
quite an effort though since all dialogs would have to be touched. If
someone want to do this (comparably easy but rather large) task in the
next development cycle, that would be welcomed.
Sven
In my view, there is no need to complicate Gimp with additional options; 
especially, because its interface is getting better all the time.
In art school, my art teacher used to say, every pleasing composition has to 
have a center of interest. Every additional component in the arrangement 
should support this main element, otherwise, the design becomes confusing.
This principle, in my view, can be applied to other fields as well. In the 
case of the dialogue boxes the center of interests is the settings and the 
options; in the hierarchy of components, the rest (such as the Cancel and 
Save buttons) is secondary.
In addition, it is good to keep in mind that pop up windows always disrupt 
the workflow, therefore, it make sense to make them as unobtrusive as 
possible. This is one of the reasons, I guess, that Photoshop but also 
Inkscape (to which I applaud) places increasingly more options on the upper 
toolbar–to eliminate the need of creating additional pop up windows.
But the best is Blender’s (an open source 3D application) dialogue boxes. 
They are transparent (not all of them). As a result, they blend so smoothly 
and inconspicuously into the work environment that most of the time I don’t 
even bother to close them.

Regards,
J. Mak
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[Gimp-user] Problem with DeSpeckle and Unmask Sharp

2004-11-16 Thread Richard
Working on this flower, and by itself its very good,
has about a dozen of speckles, and a couple of white spec holes.
So,
have tried despeckle which blurs image,
then have tried unsharp mask, and which sharpen it too much,
and gives it more speckles.
So, they don't work in this problem.
Q. what tool, and HOW, does one remove those little
speckles on a purple flower, what setting to use?
Thanks in Advance.
Richard
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