[Gimp-user] Re: modular GIMP
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I quite like the idea of seeing the signal path laid out in a modular form. You can see the channels flowing through the layers, which layers have filters operating on them and how this affects the signal. It would certainly be useful from the point of view of understanding how an image gets processed in the GIMP. You just described the image processing graph which is the basic concept we are trying to implement with GEGL. Sven Hi Sven, I have been following the GEGL mailing-list via the gmane.org newsgroup server and I see no real traffic in the last months (for this year actually, like if it stopped on new year's day). Is this a gmane issue or has there really been no traffic since last December ? On a totally unrelated topic, I haven't seen any announcement on the mailing lists for gimp 2.2.7 yet ;) From the changelog, it is mainly a small-bug fixes, but there is one line with the word memleak Regards, Olivier. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Vol 32, Issue 15
Hi Don't you think it would be good idea to slightly change the color of the selection tools' icons in order to show a selection-outline-toggle-off status and bring them back to the normal color if the selection outline is toggled on. My two cents. Best regards Asif Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 00:41:32 +0200 From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Re: when even free advertising fails Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Akkana Peck's message SNIP I see the point of displaying the status of the selection but I don't think the statusbar will do for this. The statusbar is supposed to be used for context-sensitive information. GIMP 2.4 will also make a lot more use of the statusbar for displaying hints. I don't see how a Vstatic information such as The selection outline is toggle off would fit here. A toggle button similar to the quickmask toggle would perhaps do the trick. But then there are a bunch of such toggles in the view... -- Best regards Asif Lodhi ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] modular GIMP
Sven Neumann wrote: You just described the image processing graph which is the basic concept we are trying to implement with GEGL. Sven Cool! :D -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.7 - Release Date: 09/05/2005 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Save dialog: can I get some sort of history?
Mikhail Ramendik wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: It is left to the file-list. In the Save dialog, it is hidden in the Browse for other folders section but of course these bookmarks are shared between Open and Save dialogs (in all GTK+ applications). Could one somehow make the browse for other folders section open by default? I will probably say a stupid thing here, but I think it would go against the HIG (Human Interface Guidelines) of Gnome: http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/principles-simplicity.html Regards, Olivier. PS: (My personal opinion is that the HIG has to be changed and the options of filetype and location should be visible.) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: enlightenment traps ALT. what to do?
Tim Olsen wrote: Hello. My window manager, enlightenment, is trapping ALT key presses. I would like to be able to set a vertical guide at point measured by the measuring tool. This is done by pressing ALT and clicking the mouse. I've tried shift-ALT but it appears enlightenment is trapping that too. Has anyone had this problem before? How do I get around this? thanks, Tim If you are using E0.16, press CTRL+ALT. I do not know if it works for the 0.17 version. Best regards, Olivier. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Cannot paint on transparent layer?
When I create a new transparent layer I can't seem to paint on it with the Paintbrush. When filling the layer with color (fill tool), now I am able to use the Paintbrush. Do I have to do something after creating a new transparent layer to be able to Paint on the transparency with the paint brush? Thanks, Kalle
[Gimp-user] Re: Nobody does it better [was Re: when even free advertising fails]
Alan Horkan wrote: [please trim the subject line in your responses] What can the GNU Image Manipulation Program do that Adobe Photoshop cannot do? Please do tell. I have recently pointed out that the gimp allows you to have files with multiple layers in Indexed Mode and photoshop does not. I would like to be able to expand on this list of things I know the gimp can do better. Hi Alan, * There is the possibility to use Gimp as a server like for http://www.flamingtext.com/ http://cooltext.com/ I guess this will not be considered a big plus untill google introduces some similar tool. * The availability of three scripting languages, one of them being actually easy to understand (guess which ;) ) * I seem to remember that it was mentionned that Gimp can load some pictures with large dimensions (like 1*N N being very large) while PS fails (I am not talking about N*M, where N and M are big here). I think a scientific person add raised this point last year. * The recent possibility to use gimp without interface. * The possibility to use it on *nix systems. This is useful for companies using linux farms. * 64 bits ready ! Sure, some of the points apply to niche markets. But CYMK is mostly useless for most personal use (web, home printing) and so also relates to some small market share (same for 16bits per channels and floating points). Best regards, Olivier. I would very sincerely be interested to know other things you can do with the GNU Image manipulation program that cannot be done with other software, particuarly things that cannot be done in Adobe Photoshop. No need to go into the obvious well known issues of price, and Free Software which although important have been discussed to death many times before and are usually given as the best reasons for using the gimp (they are very good reasons). - Alan H. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] image preview in file selection
Michael Schumacher wrote: With the new file selector, is it possible to have the thumbnail view that the previous file selector had? How about trying it yourself? :) I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that. The previous file selector had it by default. I'd be happy to 'try it myself' if I knew how to enable it. -- Until later, Geoffrey ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
RE: Nobody does it better [was Re: [Gimp-user] when even free advertising fails]
I would very sincerely be interested to know other things you can do with the GNU Image manipulation program that cannot be done with other software, particuarly things that cannot be done in Adobe Photoshop. No need to go into the obvious well known issues of price, and Free Software which although important have been discussed to death many times before and are usually given as the best reasons for using the gimp (they are very good reasons). - Alan H. One thing that just came to mind... in Photoshop you can adjust brush size with a slider bar. In GIMP, I don't see a way of adjusting brush size on-the-fly. Please point it out to me if I am missing it. About brushes... Corel's Paintshop Pro and Painter seem to have much better on-the-fly brush settings than Photoshop or GIMP. But that is more about simulating painting. Kalle ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: image preview in file selection
Michael Schumacher wrote: With the new file selector, is it possible to have the thumbnail view that the previous file selector had? How about trying it yourself? :) HTH, Michael Michael, On Windows version of gimp, there is no thumbnail in the open window. If you know a way to have thumnails there, please tell me how, I would like to have it working as on my linux box at home. Best regards, Olivier. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Disadvantage of GIMP when compared to Photoshop
Eric P wrote: On Linux, I have no problem using a desktop solely for the Gimp, but on Windows (at work) I end up using a multi-desktop switcher to keep windows from getting out of hand (in numbers). Unfortunately, all the multi-desktop switcher programs I've tried (VirtuaWin, MegaScale MultiDesktop Manager, MS Virtual Desktop Manager) are a tad buggy and/or don't implement as well as the Unix model of multiple desktops. Yeah, on Windows the multidesktop is a waste of time. I've got it installed here and have used it once to try it out. I remember when I originally found out about it, I was quite excited about getting some Linux functionality back, but not so. As with everything Windows, it just works (oh, I love the double meaning of that slogan - why has nobody else picked up on it yet!?). Another curious thing: when I moved to Linux I found that immediately stopped using the desktop to store shortcuts or files. Now I'm using Windows again the desktop's filled back up. The point of all this is that Windows works in quite a different way to Linux, so its users, to get the most out of the system, also work in a different way. This is why they're always clamouring for MDI. Despite its major drawbacks it's still better than relying on Windows's own manager. In that sense, it *is* an improvement, but only for Windows users. Oh well, since this is primarily for Linux, maybe they should try a live CD. I think there is another way that can make the best of all worlds and I'll submit to bugzilla when I've finished working on it. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.7 - Release Date: 09/05/2005 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Save dialog: can I get some sort of history?
Olivier Ripoll wrote: Mikhail Ramendik wrote: Could one somehow make the browse for other folders section open by default? I will probably say a stupid thing here, but I think it would go against the HIG (Human Interface Guidelines) of Gnome: And? ;) PS: (My personal opinion is that the HIG has to be changed and the Yes - GIMP as one of the leading GTK+ apps should be able define some things of the HIG. options of filetype and location should be visible.) Folder yes, filetype no, at least if we're talking about default settings. Of course, the dialogs should be able to save the defaults, if the user wants it. Filetype selection is an expert feature, the By extension is one of the best ways of using file extensions. Michael -- +++ Neu: Echte DSL-Flatrates von GMX - Surfen ohne Limits +++ Always online ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: image preview in file selection
I'm running Gimp 2.2.6 on Windows 2000 and when I open a folder of images, a thumbnail preview appears for each image I select. I can send a screenshot if desired. Peace Tom Olivier Ripoll durocortorum73-g [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Sent by: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu gimp-user-bounces cc @lists.xcf.berkel ey.eduSubject [Gimp-user] Re: image preview in file selection 05/11/2005 02:08 AM Michael Schumacher wrote: With the new file selector, is it possible to have the thumbnail view that the previous file selector had? How about trying it yourself? :) HTH, Michael Michael, On Windows version of gimp, there is no thumbnail in the open window. If you know a way to have thumnails there, please tell me how, I would like to have it working as on my linux box at home. Best regards, Olivier. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Cannot paint on transparent layer?
Kalle Ounapuu wrote: When I create a new transparent layer I can't seem to paint on it with the Paintbrush. When filling the layer with color (fill tool), now I am able to use the Paintbrush. Do I have to do something after creating a new transparent layer to be able to Paint on the transparency with the paint brush? Thanks, Kalle Please look in the layer, channels and pathsdock, layer section. At the right of the Mode dropdown widget, there is a checkbox next to a checkeboard icon. The tooltip says keep transparency. When it is check, paintbrush, pen or fill tools cannot paint on parts of the layer that are transparent. If you uncheck the box, all tools can paint everywhere on the layer. Best regards, Olivier. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Cannot paint on transparent layer?
Kalle Ounapuu wrote: When I create a new transparent layer I can't seem to paint on it with the Paintbrush. Check the setting for Keep transparency (the small check box in the layer dialog next to the Mode dropdown). If it is set to keep transparency, you can't paint on transparent areas. cu Andreas ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: image preview in file selection
Hi, Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael, On Windows version of gimp, there is no thumbnail in the open window. If you know a way to have thumnails there, please tell me how, I would like to have it working as on my linux box at home. There is no reason why there shouldn't be thumbnails in the file selector on Win32 and indeed a lot of users report that there are thumbnails. So perhaps you should go to the Preferences dialog and enable them again since most likely you just disabled them for whatever reason. They are on by default. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: modular GIMP
Hi, Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been following the GEGL mailing-list via the gmane.org newsgroup server and I see no real traffic in the last months (for this year actually, like if it stopped on new year's day). Is this a gmane issue or has there really been no traffic since last December ? AFAIK there hasn't been much if any traffic since then. On a totally unrelated topic, I haven't seen any announcement on the mailing lists for gimp 2.2.7 yet ;) From the changelog, it is mainly a small-bug fixes, but there is one line with the word memleak What are you trying to tell us with these vague statements? Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: image preview in file selection
Sven Neumann wrote: Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Windows version of gimp, there is no thumbnail in the open window. If you know a way to have thumnails there, please tell me how, I would like to have it working as on my linux box at home. There is no reason why there shouldn't be thumbnails in the file selector on Win32 and indeed a lot of users report that there are thumbnails. So perhaps you should go to the Preferences dialog and enable them again since most likely you just disabled them for whatever reason. They are on by default. Or get an OS that defines HOME by default (doing this manually on other systems is left as an exercise to the reader :) HTH, Michael -- The GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: image preview in file selection
Olivier Ripoll wrote: Michael Schumacher wrote: With the new file selector, is it possible to have the thumbnail view that the previous file selector had? How about trying it yourself? :) HTH, Michael Michael, On Windows version of gimp, there is no thumbnail in the open window. If you know a way to have thumnails there, please tell me how, I would like to have it working as on my linux box at home. What version of gimp are you running on your Linux box that has the thumbnail? When the file selector was changed, it went away, at least on my system. I'm running 2.0.4 here. Sorry can't help you with windows, I don't do windows. -- Until later, Geoffrey ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Nobody does it better [was Re: when even free advertising fails]
On Wed, 11 May 2005, Olivier Ripoll wrote: Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:50:34 +0200 From: Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Subject: [Gimp-user] Re: Nobody does it better [was Re: when even free advertising fails] Alan Horkan wrote: [please trim the subject line in your responses] What can the GNU Image Manipulation Program do that Adobe Photoshop cannot do? Please do tell. I have recently pointed out that the gimp allows you to have files with multiple layers in Indexed Mode and photoshop does not. I would like to be able to expand on this list of things I know the gimp can do better. Hi Alan, * There is the possibility to use Gimp as a server like for http://www.flamingtext.com/ http://cooltext.com/ I guess this will not be considered a big plus untill google introduces some similar tool. Running the gimp headless is definately a big deal, thanks for reminding me of this functionality. * The availability of three scripting languages, one of them being actually easy to understand (guess which ;) ) I recognise how usefult this functionality is and I make use of it myself but sorry to be pessimistic, compared to using command line tool or the automation tools in Photoshop and the ability to record Actions/Macros/Scripts in Photoshop I cannot consider this an outstanding feature of the gimp. I had to learn the various scripting languages but even to people who already know the languages I cannot imagine that is easier than saving a list of actions from the Undo history or any similar Macro Recorder. * I seem to remember that it was mentionned that Gimp can load some pictures with large dimensions (like 1*N N being very large) while PS fails (I am not talking about N*M, where N and M are big here). I think a scientific person add raised this point last year. Good point. With the right configuration the tile based architecture allows user to manipulate some very large files. * The recent possibility to use gimp without interface. This seems almost the same as running it as server. * The possibility to use it on *nix systems. This is useful for companies using linux farms. This is already well known and I was hoping people would concentrate on user level features and maybe try and make direct comparisons and give reasons to use the gimp on platforms that also have Photoshop available. * 64 bits ready ! Based on comments Sven has made I am not sure how much difference it would really make, but again with the source code freely available there is a lot more potential. Sure, some of the points apply to niche markets. But CYMK is mostly useless for most personal use (web, home printing) and so also relates to some small market share (same for 16bits per channels and floating points). With the recent take-over of Macromedia by Adobe I took a closer look at Macromedia Fireworks. The gimp makes many things possible but fireworks deliberately focusses on particularly tasks and streamlines the process of creating certain types of graphics. There is not much a talented artists cannot do with mspaint, what is important is how convenient and easy a program makes it achieve common tasks, at least in my not so humble opinion. Best regards, Olivier. Thanks for the information, sometimes it is all too easy to forget exactly what the strengths of the gimp are. Sincerely Alan Horkan ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
