Re: [Gimp-user] Trying to make a mirror image.(Shadow)

2008-12-16 Thread classiccars



classiccars wrote:
 
  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20747921/29b6_3.jpg 
 
 I'm trying to make an image that looks like this. How can I make a photo
 of a car look like it is sitting on a mirror?  I didn't do this one,
 someone else did. I'm sure they flipped and added some shading for the
 bottom of the car. The think I don't understand is how they flipped the
 image on two different axis to getting the Shadow image to look like
 that. Any suggestions? 
 Thanks for any help or ideas.. Ken 
 


Has anyone done anything like this before with their Gimp software?
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Re: [Gimp-user] Trying to make a mirror image.(Shadow)

2008-12-16 Thread Chris Mohler
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:47 PM, classiccars ktjdkre...@aol.com wrote:



 classiccars wrote:

  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20747921/29b6_3.jpg

 I'm trying to make an image that looks like this. How can I make a photo
 of a car look like it is sitting on a mirror?  I didn't do this one,
 someone else did. I'm sure they flipped and added some shading for the
 bottom of the car. The think I don't understand is how they flipped the
 image on two different axis to getting the Shadow image to look like
 that. Any suggestions?
 Thanks for any help or ideas.. Ken



 Has anyone done anything like this before with their Gimp software?

Not recently, but I do think you're going to have to take a
piecemeal approach to the problem - IE, make a copy of the layer,
delete all but the car's side, and then flip it.  Repeat for other
sections of the car.  It's a big job - expect to spend a couple of
hours at the very least... That's why I was wondering if you could
park the car in a shallow puddle and then take the photo - that would
probably be less work (and look more realistic) :)

I'm a graphic designer by trade - hit me off-list if you want me to
take a look at the photo you're trying to reflect.

Chris
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[Gimp-user] Trying to make a mirror image.(Shadow)

2008-12-03 Thread classiccars

http://www.nabble.com/file/p20747921/29b6_3.jpg 

I'm trying to make an image that looks like this. How can I make a photo of
a car look like it is sitting on a mirror?  I didn't do this one, someone
else did. I'm sure they flipped and added some shading for the bottom of the
car. The think I don't understand is how they flipped the image on two
different axis to getting the Shadow image to look like that. Any
suggestions? 
Thanks for any help or ideas.. Ken 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Trying to make a mirror image.(Shadow)

2008-12-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
classiccars wrote:
 http://www.nabble.com/file/p20747921/29b6_3.jpg 

 I'm trying to make an image that looks like this. How can I make a photo of
 a car look like it is sitting on a mirror?  I didn't do this one, someone
 else did. I'm sure they flipped and added some shading for the bottom of the
 car. The think I don't understand is how they flipped the image on two
 different axis to getting the Shadow image to look like that. Any
 suggestions? 
 Thanks for any help or ideas.. Ken 
   


Hi

The reflection image is a separate image, it cannot be created by mere
transformation of the source image.

- Martin
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Re: [Gimp-user] Trying to make a mirror image.(Shadow)

2008-12-03 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Martin Nordholts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 classiccars wrote:
 http://www.nabble.com/file/p20747921/29b6_3.jpg

 I'm trying to make an image that looks like this. How can I make a photo of
 a car look like it is sitting on a mirror?  I didn't do this one, someone
 else did. I'm sure they flipped and added some shading for the bottom of the
 car. The think I don't understand is how they flipped the image on two
 different axis to getting the Shadow image to look like that. Any
 suggestions?
 Thanks for any help or ideas.. Ken

 Hi

 The reflection image is a separate image, it cannot be created by mere
 transformation of the source image.

That would be the easy way - I think this one was faked.  If you look
at the wheels - they are not flipped, and they appear to be copies of
the wheels moved down.  I imagine (total guesswork) they made a copy,
flipped and rotated (sheared?), and erased everything but the side of
the car.  Then did the same thing for the front.  Then they had to
fabricate the bottom of the car (looks fake to me).  Finally, it looks
like they just copied the wheels and moved them down, and possibly
made a few more small copied areas to stitch it all together.   That's
a bag of pain  - the best way would be to photo the model while it's
sitting on a mirror.  Then you could add extra fade-out to the
reflection in GIMP - much less painful...

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Trying to make a mirror image.(Shadow)

2008-12-03 Thread Bob Meetin




Martin Nordholts wrote:

  classiccars wrote:
  
  
http://www.nabble.com/file/p20747921/29b6_3.jpg 

I'm trying to make an image that looks like this. How can I make a photo of
a car look like it is sitting on a mirror?  I didn't do this one, someone
else did. I'm sure they flipped and added some shading for the bottom of the
car. The think I don't understand is how they flipped the image on two
different axis to getting the "Shadow" image to look like that. Any
suggestions? 
Thanks for any help or ideas.. Ken 
  

  
  

Hi

The reflection image is a separate image, it cannot be created by mere
transformation of the source image.

- Martin
  

It really appears to be a single image with the object resting on a
mirror or reflective surface. Now if you want to achieve a reverse
image effect something like the letter A sitting atop an upside down A,
you can easily do that in GIMP by combining two images. There are also
some _javascript_, probably Mootools, library effects that you can use to
achieve a similar effect. Squeeze my arm and I'll find a relevant page
off list.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Trying to make a mirror image.(Shadow)

2008-12-03 Thread classiccars


That would be the easy way - I think this one was faked.  If you look
at the wheels - they are not flipped, and they appear to be copies of
the wheels moved down.  I imagine (total guesswork) they made a copy,
flipped and rotated (sheared?), and erased everything but the side of
the car.  Then did the same thing for the front.  Then they had to
fabricate the bottom of the car (looks fake to me).  Finally, it looks
like they just copied the wheels and moved them down, and possibly
made a few more small copied areas to stitch it all together.   That's
a bag of pain  - the best way would be to photo the model while it's
sitting on a mirror.  Then you could add extra fade-out to the
reflection in GIMP - much less painful...
Chris

Chris, Yes you seen what I seen with the wheels being copied. (not flipped)
Check out the center spinners on the hub caps. Same as the above photo. You
have a good idea with the mirror, BUT this is a real car not a model.
Thanks for you input.
Ken
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Re: [Gimp-user] Trying to make a mirror image.(Shadow)

2008-12-03 Thread Chris Mohler
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:36 PM, classiccars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]

 Chris, Yes you seen what I seen with the wheels being copied. (not flipped)
 Check out the center spinners on the hub caps. Same as the above photo. You
 have a good idea with the mirror, BUT this is a real car not a model.
 Thanks for you input.

Can you park the car in a (large) puddle? :)

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Trying to make a mirror image.(Shadow)

2008-12-03 Thread John Coppens
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:53:40 -0800 (PST)
classiccars [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm trying to make an image that looks like this. How can I make a
 photo of a car look like it is sitting on a mirror?  I didn't do this
 one, someone else did. I'm sure they flipped and added some shading for
 the bottom of the car. The think I don't understand is how they flipped
 the image on two different axis to getting the Shadow image to look
 like that. Any suggestions? 

This is almost surely a 3D model, rendered using a 3D program such as 3D
studio, or open source renderers such as POV-ray. The reflection is
correct - if you look at the headlights, which are pointing slightly down
in the direct view, you'll note that they are larger in the reflection.

If you want an example of what can be done, have a look at:

http://oyonale.com/variations.php?lang=en

Look for reflections in windows, water, drops, etc. Just amazing. And
check the perfection of the car 'model':

http://www.oyonale.com/modeles.php?page=58

John
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