Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for save as, save a copy, save, open

2007-10-04 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:20:33 +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If an image already has a filename associated to it, then open the Save
 file-chooser in that folder. Otherwise use the folder of the most recent
 save operation. Would that make sense?

Definitely.  That should be the default behavior.

If needed, the current behavior (always use the last directory) can be
emulated with a temporary bookmark.  The opposite is not true: if you
are working on several images and want to save each of them in the
directory they came from, then the current file-chooser behavior gets
in the way.

-Raphaël
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Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for save as, save a copy, save, open

2007-10-04 Thread Pere Pujal i Carabantes
El dt 02 de 10 del 2007 a les 18:20 +0200, en/na Sven Neumann va
escriure:
 Hi,
 
 On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 23:31 +0200, Pere Pujal i Carabantes wrote:
 
  I see the Recently Used (files) entry in file-chooser. Can it hold
  Recently Used Dirs ?
 
 For the Save dialog, this would probably make more sense than presenting
 recently used files. Would probably make sense to bring this up for
 discussion on the gtk-developer list or at least file a bug report for
 it against the GTK+ file-chooser.

Done, see:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2007-October/msg00010.html




 
 If an image already has a filename associated to it, then open the Save
 file-chooser in that folder. Otherwise use the folder of the most recent
 save operation. Would that make sense?

I have to disagree, that can be very confusing. (and very powerfull BTW,
you can change the default saving directory on  the fly):

open a/b/c.xcf (named file)
new unnamed.xcf
new unnamed1.xcf
save unnamed.xcf to d/e/f.xcf (file-chooser comes up)
default saving directory comes d/e
save a/b/c.xcf ( CTRL+S  file-chooser doe not appear as the file has yet
a name)
default saving directory comes a/b nearly without notice
save unnamed1.xcf

What happens? a/b is presented when I just manualy selected d/e in the
previous opened file-chooser.  

What about this?:
If an image already has a filename associated to it, then open the Save
file-chooser in that folder. Otherwise use the folder of the most recent
save operation that implies the use of file-chooser.


Yours
Pere


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Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for save as, save a copy, save, open

2007-10-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 17:12 +0200, Raphaël Quinet wrote:
 On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:20:33 +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  If an image already has a filename associated to it, then open the Save
  file-chooser in that folder. Otherwise use the folder of the most recent
  save operation. Would that make sense?
 
 Definitely.  That should be the default behavior.
 
 If needed, the current behavior (always use the last directory) can be
 emulated with a temporary bookmark.  The opposite is not true: if you
 are working on several images and want to save each of them in the
 directory they came from, then the current file-chooser behavior gets
 in the way.

Huh? In GIMP 2.4 the Save As file-chooser opens in the directory where
you loaded the image from. Your last sentence seems to imply that this
is the behavior that you desire and I don't see why you describe it as
'gets in the way'.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for save as, save a copy, save, open

2007-09-30 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 22:40 +0200, Pere Pujal i Carabantes wrote:

 May be Gimp can auto add/remove Bookmarks? I guess this can give more
 problems than adressed.
 
 Or  may be after modifying file-chooser, there will be a place for
 app-bookmarks in plus of user-bookmarks?

The application can already add bookmarks and GIMP 2.4 already makes use
of this feature in some places. I am not convinced though that this
would be a good way to solve the problems brought up the user who
started the thread.

Perhaps we need to collect the typical usage scenarios that involve use
of the file-chooser and evaluate how the current solution deals with
them and if there are ways to improve it. 


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for save as , save a copy , save, open

2007-09-30 Thread Leon Brooks GIMP
On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:10:46 Sven Neumann wrote:
 The application can already add bookmarks and GIMP 2.4
 already makes use of this feature in some places. I am not
 convinced though that this would be a good way to solve the
 problems brought up the user who started the thread.

I am imagining a short drop-down history of places one last saved
things, preferably with a shortcut key (Ins? Who knows?) which
will instantly recall the most recent one.

Cheers; Leon
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Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for save as, save a copy , save, open

2007-09-30 Thread buralex
 Leon Brooks GIMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Sep 30, 2007 
16:51 -0400 (in part):

On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:10:46 Sven Neumann wrote:
  

 The application can already add bookmarks and GIMP 2.4
 already makes use of this feature in some places. I am not
 convinced though that this would be a good way to solve the
 problems brought up the user who started the thread.



I am imagining a short drop-down history of places one last saved
things, preferably with a shortcut key (Ins? Who knows?) which
will instantly recall the most recent one.
Is any one familiar with Windows-only File-Ex 
http://www.cottonwoodsw.com ? (It has a 30-day trial period)


IMO it turns the standard windows File-Open File-Save dialogs into 
things of beauty.
If Gimp's (aka GTK+ do I have the relationship correct?) Open-Save 
dialogs could emulate that cross-platform I think it would be ideal! 
(And satisfy everything Leon has asked for.)


Full disclosure - I did a lot of beta-testing for this in its upgrade 
from Win9x to Win2K/XP and am perhaps biased.
Note: author has recently added a note that its not Vista-ready (and may 
or may not ever be :-( ). That alone is sufficient to keep me on WinXp 
as long as possible.


Regards ... Alec -- buralex-gmail
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Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for save as, save a copy , save, open

2007-09-30 Thread Leon Brooks GIMP
On Monday 01 October 2007 08:56:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Note: author has recently added a note that its not Vista-
 ready (and may or may not ever be :-( ). That alone is
 sufficient to keep me on WinXp as long as possible.

Or to inspire you to make a really robust  portable GTK version
which *will* run on Vista. At least under GIMP if nowhere else. (-:

An advantage to making it fly under GTK is that it then becomes
reasonable to use the features with other apps, naturally
including file managers. (-:

Cheers; Leon
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Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for save as, save a copy, save, open

2007-09-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 21:57 +0200, firepol wrote:

 I open an image stored
 in /media/usb-external/graphics/work/animals/cat/mycat/christmas/cat.jpg
 
 Now, if I cut a part of the image and I paste it into a new image,
 then I click save as I get as default my home directory (in my
 case /home/paul/) which is very annoying since I'd like to save the
 modified image in the same folder (last location) I've just opened a
 few seconds before. I need to re-navigate the whole tree to select the
 directory, loosing a bunch of time. 

Sometimes you want to save the image there, and sometimes you don't.
Since there's no relation between the image you opened and the one you
are saving, it would be somewhat odd to open the save file-chooser in
the loaction where you last opened a different image.

It's not easy to find a good solution that fits for all cases. For GIMP
2.4 we have changed the behavior of the Open and Save dialogs so that
they open in the last used directory if you are using them from the same
image. For all other needs, I suggest that you use the Bookmarks feature
of the file-chooser dialog to avoid having to renavigate the filesystem.


Sven


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[Gimp-user] remember last location for save as, save a copy, save, open

2007-09-28 Thread firepol
Hi there,

I open an image stored in
/media/usb-external/graphics/work/animals/cat/mycat/christmas/cat.jpg

Now, if I cut a part of the image and I paste it into a new image, then I
click save as I get as default my home directory (in my case /home/paul/)
which is very annoying since I'd like to save the modified image in the same
folder (last location) I've just opened a few seconds before. I need to
re-navigate the whole tree to select the directory, loosing a bunch of time.

The usability improvement I'm suggesting is to always remember the last
location where the user opened or saved a file. E.g. I open a file from
/media/usb-external/graphics, then I manipulate it and create a new image
fom it, The save as should be already open the
/media/usb-external/graphics. If I create a folder temp and save the file
there, then click open I'd like to be aleady in
/media/usb-external/graphics/temp (last location)... see what I mean?

If you don't like this behavior, at least copy the behavior of Adobe
Photoshop: it's not smart as the one I'm suggesting but at least it
remembers the last saved folder, even if you close photoshop.

Personally I think that it would be nice to change the behavior as I'm
suggesting (I think it can save a lot of time to regular users), don't you
think it's smarter to remember the last used location instead of navigating
the directories tree each time you want to save a new image?

Please consider this improvement... see also my initial request
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=481002

Best regards,

--firepol
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Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for save as, save a copy, save, open

2007-09-28 Thread Pere Pujal i Carabantes
El dv 28 de 09 del 2007 a les 19:34 +0200, en/na Sven Neumann va
escriure:

 It's not easy to find a good solution that fits for all cases. For GIMP
 2.4 we have changed the behavior of the Open and Save dialogs so that
 they open in the last used directory if you are using them from the same
 image. For all other needs, I suggest that you use the Bookmarks feature
 of the file-chooser dialog to avoid having to renavigate the filesystem.

Just a couple of ideas.

May be Gimp can auto add/remove Bookmarks? I guess this can give more
problems than adressed.

Or  may be after modifying file-chooser, there will be a place for
app-bookmarks in plus of user-bookmarks?


Yours
Pere

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