Re: [Gimp-user] Curving an image

2004-11-13 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Barton Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You're probably way ahead of me on this but wouldn't a larger preview
 window and an expanded UI (e.g., like the path tool) be great with
 Iwarp?  Maybe implementing it as a tool rather than a filter would be
 in order as well?

Sure, noone would disagree that the plug-in urgently needs some
love. But so far noone has taken responsibility for it. There are a
lot of plug-ins that are part of the distribution but are basically
unmaintained. We don't have enough developer resources to work on the
core and improve the ~ 200 plug-ins in the GIMP tree.

As I said already, if you want to contribute, please do so. You
wouldn't have to necessarily write code. The GIMP help team (the
people working on the user manual) are looking for contributors as
well as the GIMP web team.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Curving an image

2004-11-13 Thread Barton Bosch
Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
Barton Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You're probably way ahead of me on this but wouldn't a larger preview
window and an expanded UI (e.g., like the path tool) be great with
Iwarp?  Maybe implementing it as a tool rather than a filter would be
in order as well?

Sure, noone would disagree that the plug-in urgently needs some
love. But so far noone has taken responsibility for it. There are a
lot of plug-ins that are part of the distribution but are basically
unmaintained. We don't have enough developer resources to work on the
core and improve the ~ 200 plug-ins in the GIMP tree.
Heh heh.  I fully appreciate your point and understand what it means 
for a project on the scale of The GIMP to be brought into the world 
by volunteers.  I hope that the understanding is reciprocated in 
that my comments shouldn't be taken as implying dissatisfaction with 
the developers' efforts or any kind of demand for a specific feature 
to be implemented.  Just casual commentary to be taken for what its 
worth.


As I said already, if you want to contribute, please do so. You
wouldn't have to necessarily write code. The GIMP help team (the
people working on the user manual) are looking for contributors as
well as the GIMP web team.
Other than a little photo cropping, the last few days have been the 
first opportunity I've had to do any significant gimping.  To this 
point I've been contributing by not messing up the works with my 
ignorance of digital image manipulation in general or of The GIMP in 
particular.

With a little bit of experience I may actually have something 
worthwhile to contribute so I'll check into the documentation 
project in the near future.

Regards,
Barton
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Re: [Gimp-user] Curving an image

2004-11-13 Thread Alan Horkan

On Sat, 13 Nov 2004, Sven Neumann wrote:

 Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 03:56:25 +0100
 From: Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Barton Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Curving an image

 Hi,

 Barton Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Huh, I tried the Iwarp filter but it seems to be broken (GIMP 2.0.4
  from the FC2 rpm).
 
  It showed the layer in the preview window but regardless of any
  changes in parameters it didn't alter the image at all.  Did I miss
  something, is this a known problem or a mystery?

 You missed the fact that you need to manipulate the preview by
 clicking and dragging it. It isn't easily discoverable, I admit.
 Patches to improve this or contributions to the help are of course
 appreciated.

If the cursor changed to a brush or something on mouseover of the preview
it might help improve discovery.  I assume it would be difficult to do but
I'm pretty sure having Warp as a generic tool would please some users very
much.

- Alan
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Re: [Gimp-user] Curving an image

2004-11-13 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If the cursor changed to a brush or something on mouseover of the
 preview it might help improve discovery.

It does that in GIMP 2.2.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Curving an image

2004-11-12 Thread Barton Bosch
Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote:
On Wednesday 10 November 2004 06:44, Carol Spears wrote:
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 03:44:52PM -0800, Barton Bosch wrote:
What are the best ways to take an image of a straight line and
bend it into an s-curve with The GIMP?  I have tried the
perspective and shear tools as well as the distort-curve bend
filter without producing an ideal result.
In a word: iwarp .
Search for the iwarp filter in the Distorts menu - that is your man.
Huh, I tried the Iwarp filter but it seems to be broken (GIMP 2.0.4
from the FC2 rpm).
It showed the layer in the preview window but regardless of any
changes in parameters it didn't alter the image at all.  Did I miss
something, is this a known problem or a mystery?
Barton
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Re: [Gimp-user] Curving an image

2004-11-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Barton Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Huh, I tried the Iwarp filter but it seems to be broken (GIMP 2.0.4
 from the FC2 rpm).

 It showed the layer in the preview window but regardless of any
 changes in parameters it didn't alter the image at all.  Did I miss
 something, is this a known problem or a mystery?

You missed the fact that you need to manipulate the preview by
clicking and dragging it. It isn't easily discoverable, I admit.
Patches to improve this or contributions to the help are of course
appreciated.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] Curving an image

2004-11-12 Thread Barton Bosch
Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
Barton Bosch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Huh, I tried the Iwarp filter but it seems to be broken (GIMP 2.0.4
from the FC2 rpm).
It showed the layer in the preview window but regardless of any
changes in parameters it didn't alter the image at all.  Did I miss
something, is this a known problem or a mystery?

You missed the fact that you need to manipulate the preview by
clicking and dragging it. It isn't easily discoverable, I admit.
Patches to improve this or contributions to the help are of course
appreciated.
I was wondering whether the parameters were unnecessarily vague or I 
was just failing to grok the filter.  Just now gave it a whirl and 
it is the filter for the task.

You're probably way ahead of me on this but wouldn't a larger 
preview window and an expanded UI (e.g., like the path tool) be 
great with Iwarp?  Maybe implementing it as a tool rather than a 
filter would be in order as well?

Regardless, I've been doing some real work (TM) with The GIMP lately 
and I'd like to say thanks for the excellent app and all of the 
effort that goes into creating it, thanks a lot.

Ciao,
Barton
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Re: [Gimp-user] Curving an image

2004-11-10 Thread Carol Spears
On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 03:44:52PM -0800, Barton Bosch wrote:
 What are the best ways to take an image of a straight line and bend 
 it into an s-curve with The GIMP?  I have tried the perspective and 
 shear tools as well as the distort-curve bend filter without 
 producing an ideal result.
 
i have had limited success with Filters --Map --Map Object.

you can play with all sorts of variables, in the dialogs and also with
the image you are mapping.

both the cylinder and the sphere do some interesting curving.

it is a plug-in that you must be patient with and try a lot of different
things with.  it is also the only plug-in that i pushed my Reset all
Plug-Ins option for as it does not (yet) have its own reset button.

it has recently been crashing on Map to Box when you move it along the z 
axis, but not everyone has been able to reproduce this crash.

notice and play with the tabs.  give the plug-in what it wants.  it will
not give you what you wanted, but the result is not bad and you can try
it again giving it more or less space.

or you can brush up on your polar coordinate options and use Filter
--Distorts --Polar Coords.  i didnt like these in mathematics and i am
not so good with them in graphical design either.

i hope this helps,
carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Curving an image

2004-11-10 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris


On Wednesday 10 November 2004 06:44, Carol Spears wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 03:44:52PM -0800, Barton Bosch wrote:
  What are the best ways to take an image of a straight line and
  bend it into an s-curve with The GIMP?  I have tried the
  perspective and shear tools as well as the distort-curve bend
  filter without producing an ideal result.
In a word: iwarp .

Search for the iwarp filter in the Distorts menu - that is your man.


 i have had limited success with Filters --Map --Map Object.


Heh...I gave a lecture on the GIMP yesterday. Just I had a  computer 
and about 50 people watching - I will never forget their faces when I 
hit map to object - map to box, and it started rendering in a way 
that would take about 2 minutes to complete, and, in the mean time, I 
just went on using the program, showing the other filters in the 
menus, as if the program were idle

JS
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[Gimp-user] Curving an image

2004-11-09 Thread Barton Bosch
What are the best ways to take an image of a straight line and bend 
it into an s-curve with The GIMP?  I have tried the perspective and 
shear tools as well as the distort-curve bend filter without 
producing an ideal result.

Are there other options?  I'd like to be able to set some points and 
pull them around with the mouse similar to the UI for the path tool.

Thanks,
Barton
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Re: [Gimp-user] Curving an image

2004-11-09 Thread Eric Pierce
Filters - Distorts - Curve Bend


On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 03:44:52PM -0800, Barton Bosch wrote:
 What are the best ways to take an image of a straight line and bend 
 it into an s-curve with The GIMP?  I have tried the perspective and 
 shear tools as well as the distort-curve bend filter without 
 producing an ideal result.
 
 Are there other options?  I'd like to be able to set some points and 
 pull them around with the mouse similar to the UI for the path tool.
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Barton
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