Re: [Gimp-user] Searching GIMP user manual

2008-10-21 Thread Daniel Hornung
On Tuesday 21 October 2008, First Last wrote:
> Ok, let me explain the situation I had today that prompted the posting.  I
> have some photos that have some pretty bad vignetting and I was hoping GIMP
> could take care of it for me.  So I was expecting I could open the Help or
> the user manual and just search for "vignetting" and that would take me
> right to the spot in the manual that would explain it.

Since the manual is a manual and not a selection of tutorials, you'll find 
mainly documentation about GIMP's functions there, not about how to use them 
for some effect or another.  So even a search function doesn't replace a 
broader search across other web sites.

Luckily for you, there's an official tutorial that might do what you want, 
although it's not in the manual:
http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Quickmask/

I hope this link helps,
Daniel


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Re: [Gimp-user] Searching GIMP user manual

2008-10-21 Thread First Last
Ok, let me explain the situation I had today that prompted the posting.  I have 
some photos that have some pretty bad vignetting and I was hoping GIMP could 
take care of it for me.  So I was expecting I could open the Help or the user 
manual and just search for "vignetting" and that would take me right to the 
spot in the manual that would explain it.  But to my surprise there was no way 
to search for that.  The "find in page" is less useful because I'd have to be 
in the page that described vignetting to actually find it, and if I were there, 
I probably wouldn't need to find it.  :-)

So the entire manual search function would be very very cool to have.

Meanwhile, if you happen to know where I can find something on fixing 
vignetting and could point me to it, I'd be very grateful!  Oh, I did find in 
the web page search that the 2.4 "what's new" release notes mentioned 
vignetting under the Lens Distortion section, but with no links to Lens 
Distortion (and me not doing an exhaustive search of the index), I couldn't 
find it quickly.


  
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Re: [Gimp-user] Searching GIMP user manual

2008-10-20 Thread Alchemie foto\grafiche
Sven Newman wrote
>Another question: Do you know that that you can open the relevant page
>in the user manual by pressing the F1 key (or using the Help button) in
>each GIMP dialog and also on each menu item in GIMP?

On some computer that is done by SHIFT +F1 while only F1 open the more generic 
helph
and no the context help






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Re: [Gimp-user] Searching GIMP user manual

2008-10-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 22:51 +0200, Daniel Hornung wrote:

> The articles are well linked between each other, but that's a tedious way of 
> finding the relevant piece of information.  Probably it's not a real search 
> that's needed but a link to the index, so here it is (to the original 
> poster):
> 
> http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-help-index.html

Well, the index is always just one click away in the help-browser. And
in the new help-browser the index is even present all the time in the
side-pane on the left side.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] Searching GIMP user manual

2008-10-19 Thread Daniel Hornung
On Sunday 19 October 2008, Sven Neumann wrote:
> > I am a new user to GIMP, but haven't for the life of me been able to
> > find a way to search the GIMP user manual or help.
>
> I am interested to learn why you need to search the user manual at all.
>
> We might want to add such a feature, but that requires us to understand
> under what circumstances a user would want to perform a search in the
> user manual and what he/she would be searching for.

Hi, 

often information about one topic is scattered around the manual, which 
probably can ahrdly be avoided.  As an example, selections are covered in 
articles about their tool preference dialogs, the Select menu, the quickmask, 
a general introduction (gimp-painting.html), gimp-using-selections.html (the 
most asked for on irc) and several others (convert to/from selections).

The articles are well linked between each other, but that's a tedious way of 
finding the relevant piece of information.  Probably it's not a real search 
that's needed but a link to the index, so here it is (to the original 
poster):

http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-help-index.html

Another way to search the manual is to use you favourite search engine, google 
for example works with search terms like this:

"site:docs.gimp.org/en/ "

Daniel


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Re: [Gimp-user] Searching GIMP user manual

2008-10-19 Thread Jon Cosby
First Last wrote:
> I am a new user to GIMP, but haven't for the life of me been able to find a 
> way to search the GIMP user manual or help.  I'm expecting to see a box where 
> I can enter a word to search for, but can't see one and can't find an icon to 
> produce one.  And since the doc comes up in a window with no Edit option, 
> there's also no Windows-like find in this page option either.  Help!!!
> 

Use the documentation online, and search with Google, e.g.:

layers site:docs.gimp.org


Jon

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Re: [Gimp-user] Searching GIMP user manual

2008-10-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 12:07 -0700, First Last wrote:
> I am a new user to GIMP, but haven't for the life of me been able to
> find a way to search the GIMP user manual or help.

I am interested to learn why you need to search the user manual at all. 

We might want to add such a feature, but that requires us to understand
under what circumstances a user would want to perform a search in the
user manual and what he/she would be searching for.

Another question: Do you know that that you can open the relevant page
in the user manual by pressing the F1 key (or using the Help button) in
each GIMP dialog and also on each menu item in GIMP?


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] Searching GIMP user manual

2008-10-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Sun, 2008-10-19 at 12:07 -0700, First Last wrote:
> I am a new user to GIMP, but haven't for the life of me been able to
> find a way to search the GIMP user manual or help.

There is no search option in the locally installed user manual (yet).
But you can use the search entry in the online version at
http://docs.gimp.org/

>   I'm expecting to see a box where I can enter a word to search for,
> but can't see one and can't find an icon to produce one.  And since
> the doc comes up in a window with no Edit option, there's also no
> Windows-like find in this page option either. 

The new help-browser in the 2.6 version of GIMP does provide "find in
this page" functionality though. Just press Ctrl-F to activate it.

Unfortunately the installer that Jernej provides for the Windows
platform does not include the new help-browser plug-in. It seems to be
problematic to build the GTK+ version of webkit on Windows. Hopefully
someone can manage to do this build at some point so that users on the
Windows platform can also benefit from the much improved help browser in
GIMP 2.6.


Sven


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[Gimp-user] Searching GIMP user manual

2008-10-19 Thread First Last
I am a new user to GIMP, but haven't for the life of me been able to find a way 
to search the GIMP user manual or help.  I'm expecting to see a box where I can 
enter a word to search for, but can't see one and can't find an icon to produce 
one.  And since the doc comes up in a window with no Edit option, there's also 
no Windows-like find in this page option either.  Help!!!

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