Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

2006-10-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Alex Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-02-06 22:32]:
> I guess I'm spoiled and feel like I ought to be able to find all
> these things in a few standard places.  I'll try to be more
> painstaking next time.


Now, if we could just get you to trim your qutes a little   :^)

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

2006-10-02 Thread Alex Feldman
Thank you Patrick, and Raphael, and Carol.  Everything went in nicely 
and I'm now tuning up my printer.  I guess I'm spoiled and feel like I 
ought to be able to find all these things in a few standard places.  
I'll try to be more painstaking next time.


Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Alex Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-02-06 08:27]:
  

I can't find any sort of development package for gimp for FC5
separate from the Gimp itself.  I've googled, looked on the Gimp
downloads page, the Gimp Unix page, and searched RedHat, and
Sourceforge.  I can't find it.  But neither can I find anything with
a name like libgimp-dev on my computer.



Just not looking in the right place

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/3182948/com/gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm.html

Name : gimp-devel   
Version : 2.2.13Vendor : Red Hat, Inc_
Release : 1.fc5 Date : 2006-08-28 09:25:44
Group : Applications/Multimedia Source RPM :
gimp-2.2.13-1.fc5.src.rpm
Size : 5799196  
Packager : Red Hat, Inc_ < http://bugzilla_redhat_com/bugzilla>   
Summary : GIMP plugin and extension development kit
Description :
The gimp-devel package contains the static libraries and header files
for writing GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) plug-ins and
extensions.

mirror.switch.chgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.uni-bayreuth.de gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
sunsite.auc.dk  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
chuck.ucs.indiana.edu   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.rediris.es  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.rhnet.isgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.kddlabs.co.jp   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.nluug.nlgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.pbone.net   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.icm.edu.pl  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.chg.ru  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.sunet.segimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.isu.edu.tw  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.is.co.zagimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm



http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/3182930/com/gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm.html

Name : gimp-devel   
Version : 2.2.13Vendor : Red Hat, Inc_
Release : 1.fc5 Date : 2006-08-28 09:25:50
Group : Applications/Multimedia Source RPM :
gimp-2.2.13-1.fc5.src.rpm
Size : 5367452  
Packager : Red Hat, Inc_ < http://bugzilla_redhat_com/bugzilla>   
Summary : GIMP plugin and extension development kit
Description :
The gimp-devel package contains the static libraries and header files
for writing GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) plug-ins and
extensions.

ftp.univie.ac.atgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
mirror.switch.chgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.uni-bayreuth.de gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
sunsite.auc.dk  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
chuck.ucs.indiana.edu   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.rediris.es  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.ntua.gr gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.rhnet.isgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.kddlabs.co.jp   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.nluug.nlgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.task.gda.pl gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.pbone.net   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.icm.edu.pl  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.chg.ru  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.sunet.segimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.isu.edu.tw  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.is.co.zagimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm

  


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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

2006-10-02 Thread Carol Spears
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 05:32:07AM -0600, Alex Feldman wrote:
> OK, is there a place I can get more information on this?  Google showed 
> up surprisingly little for libgimp2.0-dev, and most of it was either for 
> Debian or not in English (which I prefer).  Can I just download the 
> package from the Debian site and install it in FC5?  I've never done 
> that before.
> 
it takes a little time to get used to working with your distribution.
as a debian user, i often need to get help from people who are making
the debs or people who have been using it for a while.

i attempted to help you understand what to look for.

i deleted everything below your message to this list since you were not
obviously responding directly to anything that was there.

could you help me to help you?  paste your original question into an
email and then paste my original response to your question right below 
that (making the email appear more like a conversation).  occasionally,
when writing email to friends and family, i manually make fake line
breaks and add a '>' so that they can read it more easily.  then below 
this, suggest what i could have said better that would have helped you 
to understand your distribution better?

http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html
List Etiquette -- the suggestions there for email formation, while not
exactly the direction that Web 2.0 seems to be going, they do make
corresponding via email much easier.

thanks,

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

2006-10-02 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:24:25 -0600, Alex Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, let me restate the question.  I can't find any sort of development 
> package for gimp for FC5 separate from the Gimp itself.  I've googled, 
> looked on the Gimp downloads page, the Gimp Unix page, and searched 
> RedHat, and Sourceforge.  I can't find it.  But neither can I find 
> anything with a name like libgimp-dev on my computer.

I don't use Fedora, but it wasn't hard for me to discover that there
is indeed a package called gimp-devel for FC5:

http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=gimp-devel&system=fedora

> But please don't lose sight of my original question - I just want to 
> have Gutenprint make the print plugin, which it is not presently doing.  
> From my examination of the configuration log, it appears that it wants 
> the gimpui.pc file, which seems like a reasonable thing to want, but I 
> don't know.  I didn't see anything in the Release notes, so it seems 
> like if it was there once, it ought to still be there.

The main purpose of the *.pc files is to include the right directories
and compiler options that are specific to your system in order to
ensure that the plug-ins can be built and installed correctly.  The
file gimpui-2.0.pc is automatically generated when GIMP is built and
there must be some package for your distribution that includes the
appropriate version of this file.  It is important to use the right
package for your distribution because each distribution is likely to
use slightly different directories or compiler options for building
and installing GIMP.  If you take some random *.pc file from another
distribution, you are likely to break things.  So please install the
correct package (gimp-devel-2.2.13) and it should work fine.

If gimpui-2.0.pc is not included in the gimp-devel package, then you
should report a bug in the Fedora bug tracker, because this is
problem in the distribution and not a GIMP bug.

-Raphaël
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

2006-10-02 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Alex Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-02-06 08:27]:
> I can't find any sort of development package for gimp for FC5
> separate from the Gimp itself.  I've googled, looked on the Gimp
> downloads page, the Gimp Unix page, and searched RedHat, and
> Sourceforge.  I can't find it.  But neither can I find anything with
> a name like libgimp-dev on my computer.

Just not looking in the right place

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/3182948/com/gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm.html

Name : gimp-devel   
Version : 2.2.13Vendor : Red Hat, Inc_
Release : 1.fc5 Date : 2006-08-28 09:25:44
Group : Applications/Multimedia Source RPM :
gimp-2.2.13-1.fc5.src.rpm
Size : 5799196  
Packager : Red Hat, Inc_ < http://bugzilla_redhat_com/bugzilla> 
Summary : GIMP plugin and extension development kit
Description :
The gimp-devel package contains the static libraries and header files
for writing GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) plug-ins and
extensions.

mirror.switch.chgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.uni-bayreuth.de gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
sunsite.auc.dk  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
chuck.ucs.indiana.edu   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.rediris.es  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.rhnet.isgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.kddlabs.co.jp   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.nluug.nlgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.pbone.net   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.icm.edu.pl  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.chg.ru  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.sunet.segimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.isu.edu.tw  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.is.co.zagimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm



http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/3182930/com/gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm.html

Name : gimp-devel   
Version : 2.2.13Vendor : Red Hat, Inc_
Release : 1.fc5 Date : 2006-08-28 09:25:50
Group : Applications/Multimedia Source RPM :
gimp-2.2.13-1.fc5.src.rpm
Size : 5367452  
Packager : Red Hat, Inc_ < http://bugzilla_redhat_com/bugzilla> 
Summary : GIMP plugin and extension development kit
Description :
The gimp-devel package contains the static libraries and header files
for writing GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) plug-ins and
extensions.

ftp.univie.ac.atgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
mirror.switch.chgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.uni-bayreuth.de gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
sunsite.auc.dk  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
chuck.ucs.indiana.edu   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.rediris.es  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.ntua.gr gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.rhnet.isgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.kddlabs.co.jp   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.nluug.nlgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.task.gda.pl gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.pbone.net   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.icm.edu.pl  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.chg.ru  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.sunet.segimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.isu.edu.tw  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.is.co.zagimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

2006-10-02 Thread Alex Feldman
OK, let me restate the question.  I can't find any sort of development 
package for gimp for FC5 separate from the Gimp itself.  I've googled, 
looked on the Gimp downloads page, the Gimp Unix page, and searched 
RedHat, and Sourceforge.  I can't find it.  But neither can I find 
anything with a name like libgimp-dev on my computer.


But please don't lose sight of my original question - I just want to 
have Gutenprint make the print plugin, which it is not presently doing.  
From my examination of the configuration log, it appears that it wants 
the gimpui.pc file, which seems like a reasonable thing to want, but I 
don't know.  I didn't see anything in the Release notes, so it seems 
like if it was there once, it ought to still be there.


So maybe there is something deeper here?  Is FC5 gimp supposed to have a 
gimpui.pc file?  I'm not at all shy about asking questions on the 
gimp-print devel list, but for the moment I think these are questions 
about Gimp that I would like to nail down.


Thanks very much.

Raphaël Quinet wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:32:07 -0600, Alex Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
OK, is there a place I can get more information on this?  Google showed 
up surprisingly little for libgimp2.0-dev, and most of it was either for 
Debian or not in English (which I prefer).  Can I just download the 
package from the Debian site and install it in FC5?  I've never done 
that before.



Certainly not!  It is unlikely that a Debian package will install cleanly
in FC5.  And even if you manage to install it (e.g., using alien to convert
the package), it is very likely that your system will be unusable or at
least unmaintainable after that.

Some Linux distributors have decided to split the GIMP files in two or more
packages: one of them (usually just called "gimp") contains the files that
are needed for normal usage and another one (usually called "gimp-dev" or
"gimp-devel" or something similar) contains the files that are only needed
if you want to build and install plug-ins.  The latter usually includes the
header files, the *.pc files needed by pkgconfig, etc.  It should not be
too hard for you to find the right package for your distribution.

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

2006-10-02 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:32:07 -0600, Alex Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, is there a place I can get more information on this?  Google showed 
> up surprisingly little for libgimp2.0-dev, and most of it was either for 
> Debian or not in English (which I prefer).  Can I just download the 
> package from the Debian site and install it in FC5?  I've never done 
> that before.

Certainly not!  It is unlikely that a Debian package will install cleanly
in FC5.  And even if you manage to install it (e.g., using alien to convert
the package), it is very likely that your system will be unusable or at
least unmaintainable after that.

Some Linux distributors have decided to split the GIMP files in two or more
packages: one of them (usually just called "gimp") contains the files that
are needed for normal usage and another one (usually called "gimp-dev" or
"gimp-devel" or something similar) contains the files that are only needed
if you want to build and install plug-ins.  The latter usually includes the
header files, the *.pc files needed by pkgconfig, etc.  It should not be
too hard for you to find the right package for your distribution.

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

2006-10-02 Thread Alex Feldman
OK, is there a place I can get more information on this?  Google showed 
up surprisingly little for libgimp2.0-dev, and most of it was either for 
Debian or not in English (which I prefer).  Can I just download the 
package from the Debian site and install it in FC5?  I've never done 
that before.



Carol Spears wrote:

On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 08:11:43PM -0600, Alex Feldman wrote:
  

I just installed FC5, which comes with Gimp, but there is no gimpui.pc file.

Gutenprint looks for it before it makes the print plugin for Gimp, which 
is what I am after.  So do I need to find this file somewhere and put it 
in my PKG_CONFIG_PATH, or is there some other way to get Gutenprint to 
make that plugin?




probably you need to install libgimp-dev or whatever it is called on
FC5.

carol

  


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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

2006-10-01 Thread Carol Spears
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 08:11:43PM -0600, Alex Feldman wrote:
> I just installed FC5, which comes with Gimp, but there is no gimpui.pc file.
> 
> Gutenprint looks for it before it makes the print plugin for Gimp, which 
> is what I am after.  So do I need to find this file somewhere and put it 
> in my PKG_CONFIG_PATH, or is there some other way to get Gutenprint to 
> make that plugin?
> 
probably you need to install libgimp-dev or whatever it is called on
FC5.

carol

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[Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

2006-10-01 Thread Alex Feldman

I just installed FC5, which comes with Gimp, but there is no gimpui.pc file.

Gutenprint looks for it before it makes the print plugin for Gimp, which 
is what I am after.  So do I need to find this file somewhere and put it 
in my PKG_CONFIG_PATH, or is there some other way to get Gutenprint to 
make that plugin?


Thanks.

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