Re: SuSe

2000-02-08 Thread Jerry Feldman
SuSE 6.3 is a 6 CD set. Also, Micro Center in Cambridge had the full SuSE CD set for $29.95 last month when I checked. It is normally retail $49.95 with a street price of $34.95 normally. Benjamin Scott wrote: On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: Does anyone know if there is as iso

Perl s/download/Perl/

2000-02-08 Thread Paul Courchene
In reference to your post on GNHLUG about Learning Perl... Save yourself a lot of time and fooling around with downloading etc., get a copy of Perl For Dummies book at Barnes and Nobles for $19.95. It has a CdRom with Perl 5, which will load on a Win 95/98 box. Works fine, lasts long time. Get

Job Postings

2000-02-08 Thread Paul Courchene
Re: Job postings Send them to the Main List, and let's run a process in the background to plan for future traffic. paulc ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the

Re: mx record problem

2000-02-08 Thread Ed Robbins
I forgot to mention that once you edit the /etc/inetd.conf file you'll have to restart inetd.conf, you can do the following: [root@segv3 root]# ps auxww|grep inetd|egrep -v grep root 234 0.0 0.4 1244 304 ? S Dec 14 0:02 inetd [root@segv3 root]# kill -HUP 234 Ed Ed Robbins

Re: Perl

2000-02-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jim Ryan wrote: What would be a comparable scenario for RH 6.1? Good book CD combo? Or do I already have Perl on my machine? If you did a complete install, you already have it. If not, you'll find it on the Red Hat CD. I know nothing about it at this point. Would

RE: Perl s/download/Perl/

2000-02-08 Thread Ferenc Tamas Gyurcsan
I already have Perl on my machine? You almost surely do. Type perl, and you will see. Ferenc ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter:

Re: Job Postings

2000-02-08 Thread Bruce Dawson
NO NO NO NO NO NO! There's too much noise already on the main list! Send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Thanks guys/gals!] And subscribe to that list if you're interested in what's out there! Paul Courchene wrote: Re: Job postings Send them to the Main List, and let's run a process in the

Re: mx record problem

2000-02-08 Thread Bruce Dawson
One way of doing this is to have the linux box be the mail server for the domain, and then have .forward files in each user's home directory. The .forward files would point to the system inside the domain that the user want's their mail spooled to. "Joshua S. Freeman" wrote: ... There are other

Re: mx record problem

2000-02-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: joshua.threeofus.com, and is aliased to: www.threeofus.com, discuss.threeofus.com, news.threeofus.com, mail.threeofus.com, pop.threeofus.com [...] It is a redhat linux 6.1 box. this machine's permanent hostname in macDNS is monica.threeofus.com.

RE: hello once again and perl

2000-02-08 Thread Jamie Blondin
I do just about all of my general scripting for both UNIX and Win32 in Perl...I've never used VMS DCL, and I've only done a few CGI things with Perl, but that's mostly because I'm always forced to work on web stuff made for IIS platforms and which will be installable on any IIS platform (In other

Re: Request for weekend Linux training

2000-02-08 Thread Jerry Kubeck
Here is the request. Please respond to him directly. Please help me to find a non expensive Linux training place for my 16y old son on weekend. Jean-Luc Momplaisir MIS Department BostonCoach Corp. (617) 394-3744 Phone (617) 394-3755 Fax "Momplaisir, Jean-Luc" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruce Dawson

Re: new mx record question

2000-02-08 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
OK... provisionally, I'm OK with that solution... I do have a question though: how do I lock down smtp services on the linux box if I move smtp services there (for users using clients from other networks...) Thanks, J. On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Bruce Dawson wrote: The easiest solution? Move

Re: new mx record question

2000-02-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: dns for threeofus.com should be served by macDNS on the mac at 199.232.38.2 That would be no problem. I want smtp for client users (non-*nix clients) to use mail.threeofus.com, aka 199.232.38.2 (Eudora Internet Mail Server)... I want ALL pop

Re: new mx record question

2000-02-08 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Benjamin Scott wrote: I do have a question though: how do I lock down smtp services on the linux box if I move smtp services there (for users using clients from other networks...) Not sure what you mean by "lock down". Please clarify. :) The only people I

Re: Memory Cleaner

2000-02-08 Thread PK Whelan
Thanks Karl. That's good info. Paul W On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Karl J. Runge wrote: Hi Paul, I believe the standard philosophy is that if machine isn't utilizing (in some way) nearly 100% of the RAM then it is wasting the RAM. I agree with this for the most part. So it caches files,

Re: new mx record question

2000-02-08 Thread Bruce Dawson
I don't think so! (If that's the case, then your system won't be able to receive mail from anywhere on the network!) That's the way SMTP works - its a mail receiving protocol - and its defined to work (RFC 911 I think) such that the sender doesn't have to log in! However, with the

Re: hello once again and perl

2000-02-08 Thread Matt Herbert
Benjamin Scott wrote: On Mon, 7 Feb 2000, Chris Bourassa wrote: I am planning on learning (at least start) Perl. How different is Linux Perl compared to (yuch) Perl for Win32. I'm going to respectfully disagree with the people here who have stated that Perl on Win32 isn't like Perl

Re: new mx record question

2000-02-08 Thread Ferenc Tamas Gyurcsan
Hi, The only people I want using my smtp server are people logged into their shell account, or people who HAVE shell accounts using a mail client from a remote network... This is not gonna work. What you can do with smtp is to control the access from ip numbers. Of course you have to have

Re: SuSe

2000-02-08 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Thanks. I actually found that ftp://ftp.linuxberg.com/pub/ISO/ has ISO images of most of the major distro's. Kenny Kurth Bemis wrote: At 09:04 PM 2/7/2000 , you wrote: try ftp.linuxberg.com i think that theres one there ~kurth Does anyone know if there is as iso image for suse out

Re: hello once again and perl

2000-02-08 Thread Thomas Charron
Quoting Chris Bourassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As much as this is blasphemous, but I do not have my Linux box up and running yet (not for at least a month for parts) but I am planning on learning (at least start) Perl. How different is Linux Perl compared to (yuch) Perl for Win32. I plan on

RE: hello once again and perl

2000-02-08 Thread Thomas Charron
Quoting Jamie Blondin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As for differences - there are a few. The work of ActivePerl (www.activeperl.com) has not been without fruition, however, and they've managed to create a usable (barely) port of Perl and several common packages. Be warned, though, you may find

Corel to buy Inprise for $2.44B

2000-02-08 Thread Lee D. Rothstein
Corel to buy Inprise for $2.44B The stock swap will create a "Linux powerhouse," officials say. Inprise CEO Dale Fuller will become chairman, Michael Cowpland remains as CEO. http://www.pcweek.com/a/pcwt0002072/2433708/ -- Lee D. Rothstein -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- 603-424-2900 Fax:

Feb 10th Monadlug meeting

2000-02-08 Thread Jerry Kubeck
Help I just reread Madog's note to me and he has requested a LCD system capable of 1024x768. Anyone coming that has the access to equipment like this? We have 22 people reserved for Harlows after the meeting. Looks like a great meetign shaping up Jerry

RE: Perl

2000-02-08 Thread Jim Ryan
Oh, now I get the drift. So there is a bash scripting language. On that note am I to assume that I can do everything in Perl that I could do with bash scripting and more? That it, in a very wide sense, a superset? Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

ARG!!!! Vhosts!

2000-02-08 Thread Kurth Bemis
hello everybody - i'm looking into ways to setup vhosts on my debian 2.1 box. every person i have talked to says use qmail but i don't know about that. i looked at the howto at http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Virtual-Services-HOWTO.html and it also says use qmail. i think that i'm goin to

Re: Request for weekend Linux training

2000-02-08 Thread Adam Wendt
UGH!!! sorry list ahah typed it up and then hit send without changing To: haha On Tue, 08 Feb 2000, you wrote: Hi, I'm interested in your sons situation because I am a 17y old who has been using Linux for about 2 years now. I'm also seriously considering starting to teach linux classes

Re: Perl

2000-02-08 Thread Dave Seidel
Well, just to be more precise, bash is a shell, and like all shells, provides a scripting language. Perl is interpreted (like shell scripts are) but is a much more powerful general purpose language. You can do quite a lot with a shell script (with a fair amount of pain :-), but Perl can do

RE: Perl

2000-02-08 Thread Jim Ryan
Thank you all for the explanations. How would I find out if Perl is already installed on my system? Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Seidel Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 3:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Perl

RE: hello once again and perl

2000-02-08 Thread Karl J. Runge
Does Perl on Win32 have the fork() call yet? If so, is it reasonably fast (as it is on Unix)? fork() is a nice, simple way to make a server (for example). I would guess if perl 5.005 is on Win32 it has threads, no? (not that I'd really ever want to use threads in perl...) Karl Runge On Mon, 7

RE: hello once again and perl

2000-02-08 Thread Raymond Cote
Some folks may say that it is _the_ scripting language for Un*x. :} Beauty of Perl is that it runs many places and the folks porting it to different platforms are now working to make your scripts as portable as possible. I have Perl scripts that run on Unix, Mac, and WinNT. Perl is not

Re: Memory Cleaner

2000-02-08 Thread Karl J. Runge
Hi Paul, I believe the standard philosophy is that if machine isn't utilizing (in some way) nearly 100% of the RAM then it is wasting the RAM. I agree with this for the most part. So it caches files, buffers i/o, and keeps other "slow" data in the RAM for quick access should the need for them

BSD

2000-02-08 Thread Kurth Bemis
i know that this is off topic but - anyone know where i can grab a ISO of FreeBSD or NetBSD or the other BSD ( i can't remember the name )? ~kurth ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text

Now I really mean HELP!!!

2000-02-08 Thread Jerry Kubeck
My almost source for an LCD fell through for the Thursday meeting. Anyone out there have the availablility of one for Maddog?? Jerry - Jerry Kubeck Customer Support Appropriate Solutions, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: hello once again and perl

2000-02-08 Thread Kevin D. Clark
Karl J. Runge writes: Does Perl on Win32 have the fork() call yet? If so, is it reasonably fast (as it is on Unix)? fork() is a nice, simple way to make a server (for example). $ uname -a Windows_NT CLARK2 4.0 17.5 i686 $ perl -v This is perl, version 5.004_04 built for cygwin32 Copyright

Re: BSD

2000-02-08 Thread Greg Dake
For FreeBSD, try ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD For NetBSD, try http://www.netbsd.org/Releases/formal-1.4/ I don't know of any other BSD, but someone else should be able to help you with that. Kurth Bemis wrote: i know that this is off topic but - anyone know where i can grab a ISO of

Re: BSD

2000-02-08 Thread Marc Evans
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Greg Dake wrote: For FreeBSD, try ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD For NetBSD, try http://www.netbsd.org/Releases/formal-1.4/ I don't know of any other BSD, but someone else should be able to help you with that. http://www.openbsd.org/ Kurth Bemis wrote:

Re: BSD

2000-02-08 Thread bryan
OpenBSD www.openbsd.org it's goal is to be the most secure. Bryan Greg Dake wrote: For FreeBSD, try ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD For NetBSD, try http://www.netbsd.org/Releases/formal-1.4/ I don't know of any other BSD, but someone else should be able to help you with that.

Re: new mx record question

2000-02-08 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
Thanks! OK... I'd be happy shutting down the eudora internet mail server on the mac and have all mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED] handled on the linux box (even though that machine doesn't handle DNS)... how do I get started?... is anyone here using qmail? I sure could use some help getting *that*

Re: Request for weekend Linux training

2000-02-08 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
I have a shelf filled with books on everything from linux to programming in c... yes, these books are filled with info... but there are times where it's hard to grasp a concept no matter how well written the book it's found in. Some people need lessons, handholding, mentoring, etc. to loearn

Cabletron Roamabout 11Mbps under RH Linux 6.1

2000-02-08 Thread Jim Richardson
Rumor has it someone on this list has done this. I have downloaded and built the pcmcia with wavelan2_cs successfully. I also have the wireless tools iwconfig, iwpriv, iwspy. I am able to run the Roamabout link test on a windows laptop and the linux box replies. I cannot pass IP. I'm also

Re: Request for weekend Linux training

2000-02-08 Thread Ferenc Tamas Gyurcsan
Hi, Some people need lessons, handholding, mentoring, etc. to loearn concepts and skills that they might not have a natural affinity towards... Yes, I agree with this opinion. Until you reach a level, it's pretty hard to get used to using linux, especially if all you had to do is click on Heretic

how do i sighup inetd?

2000-02-08 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
? -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Joshua S. Freeman | preferred email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp public key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.threeofus.com

Re: how do i sighup inetd?

2000-02-08 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
kill -HUP inetd's PID "Joshua S. Freeman" wrote: ? ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug

Re: how do i sighup inetd?

2000-02-08 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
Did you make any changes to /etc/inetd.conf? Something else that you may want to check is if there is any sort of active process that has the ports that you are using bound (some IDS tools like portsentry will do this if it is satrtedbefore inetd). Kenny "Joshua S. Freeman" wrote: Thanks...

Re: how do i sighup inetd?

2000-02-08 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
It's strange... I didn't make any changes at all to etc/inetd.conf, and I'm not running anything else on that port (110) afaik... anything else I should check? how do i check if there's a port conflict just in case? J.On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: Did you make any changes to

Re: html grabber

2000-02-08 Thread jdike
I believe that both lynx and wget will do what you want. Both have multitudes of options for doing this kind of thing. Jeff ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

Re: new mx record question

2000-02-08 Thread Bob Knowles
Aaahh, a nice web interface Have you looked at webmin? http://www.webmin.com/ Bob - Original Message - From: "Joshua S. Freeman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 6:47 PM Subject: Re: new mx record question no, there's no reason except if

Re: how do i sighup inetd?

2000-02-08 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
That's a really good question (and I wish I had an answer). I'm guessing that `netstat` can somehow tell you what's listening on what ports. A port-scanner will do the trick, too. But what did you mean when you said " I lost tcpd/pop3d"? What is happening? Can you connect to port 110 at all (by

ipop3d fixed

2000-02-08 Thread Joshua S. Freeman
Thanks go Ferenc... i was trying to run it from a machine which, while on my network, i hadn't added it's info to my DNS table... long, dumb story.. but Ferenc figured it out... cheers all.. J. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Joshua S. Freeman

Re: new mx record question

2000-02-08 Thread rfowler
Oops... sorry Guy's this should have been sent to BOB not the List - Original Message - From: Robert W. Fowler III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 9:10 PM Subject: Post Hi Bob Ive got your resume'and im sorry for the delay, its been pretty

Re: Memory Cleaner

2000-02-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: Right now, Top reports X as using 31.7% of my memory and 2.6% of my CPU. What's the Resident Segment Size of X? Not the Virtual Segment Size, mind you. I believe X maps the video controller into virtual memory, plus who knows what else, so VSS

RE: Perl

2000-02-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jim Ryan wrote: Thank you all for the explanations. How would I find out if Perl is already installed on my system? You're using Red Hat, right? If so, rpm -q perl will query the Red Hat package manager about the installed version of Perl, if any exists. --

Re: Request for weekend Linux training

2000-02-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: Some people need lessons, handholding, mentoring, etc. to loearn concepts and skills that they might not have a natural affinity towards... Plus, some people learn well by reading, others by demonstration, others still be lecture and explanation.

RE: how do i sighup inetd?

2000-02-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Jamie Blondin wrote: Even easier...Assuming your inetd keeps its pid in /var/run/inetd.pid (Most boxes I've seen do.): # kill -HUP `cat /var/run/inetd.pid` Easier still: # killall -HUP inetd (But, to quote the manpage: Be warned that typing "killall name" may not

Re: how do i sighup inetd?

2000-02-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Joshua S. Freeman wrote: I didn't make any changes at all to etc/inetd.conf, and I'm not running anything else on that port (110) afaik... anything else I should check? What *did* you change? :-) Check your system log files. You can also try invoking "tcpd" and

Re: Redhat 6.1 load hangs at mouse probe

2000-02-08 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
You can get them off of the RH mirror sites in the `updates` directories: ftp://mrhankey.bizserve.com/pub/linux/redhat/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/updates/6.1/images/i386/ I don't know if they are the updated images, but you can get them from Metalab.

Re: Memory Cleaner

2000-02-08 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: If that doesn't work, you can try including "Magic SYSRQ Keys" into your kernel. So THAT'S what that is for I never did get around to reading the docs on that... Yup. I've become quite adept at killing X, resetting the keyboard,

Re: Laptop installation

2000-02-08 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but ps isn't available at that point, even if it might be installed. We don't know where to find it. And the processes most likely are not running, but waiting on something. If we only knew what that something was. I never saw this happen

making rpms

2000-02-08 Thread Adam Wendt
I love compiling stuff but I also like the ease of querying/removing/installing rpm packages so what I'd really like to do is compile my own rpm packages. I know I can go and download src.rpm packages and --rebuild them but what about something where someone hasn't already made one. So on to my

Re: Memory Cleaner

2000-02-08 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: I've been having the same problems ever since RH6.1. Right now, Top reports X as using 31.7% of my memory and 2.6% of my CPU. If I run a WM that is resource-intensive (such as KDE, Gnome, E, etc.), there have been a few occasioins where my whole

Re: how do i sighup inetd?

2000-02-08 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: That's a really good question (and I wish I had an answer). I'm guessing that `netstat` can somehow tell you what's listening on what ports. A $ netstat -an Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address