On 08/04/2015 18:27:24, David Prosser david.pros...@rluk.ac.uk wrote:
Once the paper has been offered under a CC-BY license that license is
‘irrevocable’. Does ‘irrevocable’ not mean what I think it does? Further, also
under Scope:
If you think that 'irrevocable' means that the copyright holder
Graham wrote:
So - e.g. Elsevier - could change the licence on papers served by their
website, and that would affect anyone obtaining it from the website after that
point.
I’m not sure about that. According to the legal code, the license applies to
the work “to which the Licensor applied
Surely everyone on this list is aiming for the goal of global open access! But
what do we think this means? Thanks to Jeroen for posting recently his wish
list. In this post, I will point out how very different my perspective on open
access is from Jeroen's, even though I think Jeroen and I are
The first quarter Dramatic Growth of Open Access is now available:
http://poeticeconomics.blogspot.ca/2015/04/dramatic-growth-of-open-access-2015.html
Selected highlights
OpenDOAR added 129 repositories for a total of 2,857 open access repositories.
The Bielefeld Academic Search Engine added
This is a good point and thank you for your participation Jacinto.
CC-BY-SA is not the same as copyleft. What CC-BY SA requires is that downstream
derivatives use the same license, but not that the user shares their work in
the same manner. This is different from what I would consider a
David,
Thank you for your contribution. To summarize your argument, you are saying
that CC-BY works cannot be enclosed because anyone can buy a copy and make it
open access. Some flaws with this argument:
Practical: let's imagine that every article in every journal listed in
PubMedCentral
hi Didier,
Thank you for raising good questions to further our understanding of the issues.
On 2015-04-08, at 10:45 AM, Didier Pelaprat wrote:
Hi to all,
Before all, maybe I did not properly understand what is the topic. If yes,
please tell me sincerely.
I understood the topic was
Hi Heather
OK, so let’s take your specific example. Every open access paper in PMC is
mirrored in Europe PubMed Central. So our publisher not only has to get PMC
switched off, but Europe PMC as well. Oh, and PMC Canada. I suspect that the
moment that it is suspected that any publisher is
Hi to all again,
Many thanks, Heather, for your clear example. I think I have understood.
Therefore, my previous mail with the many questions is no longer useful.
Kind regards
Didier
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Le 8 avr. 2015 à 17:41, Heather Morrison heather.morri...@uottawa.ca a
écrit :
Before we get trapped into the technical details, I think we must welcome
the spirit of Jeroen's wisth list and of Heather's challenge. Thank you so
much.
CC-BY does have that kind of potential problem. The free software community
saw that coming and invented copyleft. CC-BY-SA sort that out, I
On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:04 PM, David Prosser david.pros...@rluk.ac.uk
wrote:
Jeroen - CC-BY license
Heather - NO!!! the CC-BY license is a major strategic error of the open
access movement. Allowing downstream commercial use to anyone opens up the
possibility of re-enclosure. ...
I
Jeroen - CC-BY license
Heather - NO!!! the CC-BY license is a major strategic error of the open
access movement. Allowing downstream commercial use to anyone opens up the
possibility of re-enclosure. The temptation towards perpetual copyright for
profit-taking should not be
hi David,
On 2015-04-08, at 12:47 PM, David Prosser wrote:
Hi Heather
OK, so let’s take your specific example. Every open access paper in PMC is
mirrored in Europe PubMed Central. So our publisher not only has to get PMC
switched off, but Europe PMC as well. Oh, and PMC Canada. I
Dear Heather,
Sorry, I just saw that I wrote an uncomplete sentence in my mail below, which
rendered the thing hardly understandable.
In the last-but-one paragraph about the versions we accept to make publicly
available in the biomedical research field:
It should have been written in which
Dear Heather,
Your preceding mail, about added costly services which would completly occlude
the initial freely available licenced work, was so clear that I answered in
another mail that it rendered my questions no longer necessary.
Your present mail still adds to my understanding!
And I
Hi all,
Note. It seems that Heather Morrison and I wrote our posts simultaneously.
You'll find that our explanations are quite similar (a good thing for the both
of us).
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To determine what a CC license allows (or forbids) one to do, one has to
carefully distinguish between the
I’m fast moving into areas that I really have no expertise in and so apologies
to those on the list much more knowledgeable than I. But I was struck by this
point that Heather made:
The License is granted by the Licensor. Once the licensee has a copy of a CC-BY
licensed work, the license is
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