Goanet News Bytes (In Brief * July 8-9, 2005 *** Sardinha elected Goa Speaker

2005-07-09 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
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[Goanet]Colour, Caste and Christianity

2005-07-09 Thread Kevin Saldanha
There is a scientific explanation to the way different skin colours evolved which has been acknowledged around the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_skin_color http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0211/feature2/online_extra.html However, this highly visible (ie. obvious from a

RE: [Goanet]Re: Caste adverts

2005-07-09 Thread Cip Fernandes
Fred, No one intends to interfere with your profession and nobody can stop your freedom of writing. CAN YOU PLEASE STOP POSTING GOAN ROMAN CATHOLICS SO-CALLED CASTE BASED MATRIMONIAL ADS? THIS NUISANCE HAS TO BE STOPPED. Regards, Cip UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Goanet]New rules for GoaNet poster identification - Unofficial

2005-07-09 Thread carlos6143
Cecil, If one needs personal information for posting on Goanet, caste, skin color, and size of your house/hut in Goa should aslo be given. Besides, it would also make sense to add if one is Hindu/Catholic basher. Regards, Carlos -Original Message- From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Goanet]cybermatrimonials

2005-07-09 Thread carlos6143
Cip, There is no need to mention caste in the Obituary, because the living eartlings on earth have no use for a dead person. St Peter is the only one who needs to know who is coming to Heaven and he knows them all, especially the Goans with complex. And then he puts them in special rooms

[Goanet]Modern Death Announcements etc.. 'Every one goes to Heaven?'

2005-07-09 Thread JoeGoaUk
About 25 years ago... When some some dies, he/she (or his/her soul) was subject to last/final judgement (with Sam Minguel?) and accordingly he or she was sentenced to either to Hell or Purgatory or Heaven. Hence, my Aunty's Prayer: SAIBA, PURGATORINTLEA ATMEANK VEGIN SORGAR VOR... Again,

[Goanet]Birmingham, controlled explsions

2005-07-09 Thread Gabe Menezes
The Police this evening effected controlled explosion in Birmingham (Midlands) There is also in place an exclusion zone imposed preventing cars from entering the inner zone of Birmingham. Thank you Tony Blair. -- Cheers, Gabe Menezes. London, England

Re: [Goanet]PM slams London blasts

2005-07-09 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 09/07/05, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- joseph fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why dont you then quit your British citizenship and move over to France/Germany? Mario adds: That is precisely where Gabe will feel most comfortable, Joe. That is, until the

Re: [Goanet] Siege mentality.

2005-07-09 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is excellent, but the caveat for a change is puzzling. Who in power, other than the feckless non-coalition Europeans like France, Germany and Spain, are NOT focusing on the terrorists? For a change is used because we need a change in policy.

Re: [Goanet]Single?

2005-07-09 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 09/07/05, Cip Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabe, I was fortunate to be born a Brahmin and no harm in wearing it with pride What is the fortune? and, what is the pride? Just curious! Cip UK RESPONSE: I believe you have completely misread my post! I was quoting a

Re: [Goanet]Al Qaeda in Europe.

2005-07-09 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 08/07/05, cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabe, Vis a vis the post below, I believe your attitude towards Blair's unjustified attack on Iraq is entirely realistic and reflects the majority position in the UK. It is definitely not defeatist. That the terrorist attack on London, yesterday,

Re: [Goanet]Re: Single?

2005-07-09 Thread Viviana
Interesting. I always assumed that Halur is a male. Halur, can you help us out? Are you a HE or a SHE?? My bet is MALE. Viviana George Pinto wrote: Halur - he or she? You probably know something I don't. Many seem to think 'Halur' is a he, but may be Halur is a she? Regards,

[Goanet]Re: Single?

2005-07-09 Thread George Pinto
Halur - he or she? You probably know something I don't. Many seem to think 'Halur' is a he, but may be Halur is a she? Regards, George --- Viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cip that's not fair. He's accurately quoting the ads one sees in the States. Viviana Cip Fernandes wrote:

Re: [Goanet]PM slams London blasts

2005-07-09 Thread Mario Goveia
--- joseph fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why dont you then quit your British citizenship and move over to France/Germany? Mario adds: That is precisely where Gabe will feel most comfortable, Joe. That is, until the Islamo-fascists get to those countries as well.

Re: [Goanet]Re: How will the left wingers spin this?

2005-07-09 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sure everyone read, with intent the article posted; everyone tends to read Fred's posts written or copied and pasted. Mario replies: What Gabe Menezes, who blames the cowardly attack on innocent civilians in London on Tony Blair, is referring

[Goanet]Do you use GNU/Linux? If so, do sign up on the Linux Counter...

2005-07-09 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Do you feel priviledged to belong to the global community of GNU/Linux users? Would you like to say a 'thank you' to tens of thousands of volunteers who have helped to create this system, in some small way? Please record your gratitude by signing up at the Linux Counter,

[Goanet]Re: Caste adverts

2005-07-09 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
GL wrote: Fred's and other's caste-beef appears to be not for caste but disparity in society. This issue of disparity is and will always be there Dear GL: Are you deliberately/unintentionally misquoting me, or have I expressed myself so poorly, that I've confused my stand over the many

Re: [Goanet] Siege mentality.

2005-07-09 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Murderous terrorists must be punished. They ought to be the focus of those in power for a change. Mario replies: This is excellent, but the caveat for a change is puzzling. Who in power, other than the feckless non-coalition Europeans like France,

RE: [Goanet]cybermatrimonials

2005-07-09 Thread Cip Fernandes
Wonder why so-called Goan Roman Catholics castists DO NOT MENTION their caste in their OBITUARY / DEATH NOTICE/ANNOUNCEMENTS neither on newspaper nor Goanet? Just curios! Cip UK -Original Message- Alba Fernandes, Sent: 08 July 2005 22:02 Hello Goanetters, Well said Dr. Ambert

RE: [Goanet]Konkani Dalgado Konkani Akademy

2005-07-09 Thread Cip Fernandes
WHICH ORGANISATION HAS THE AUTHORITY TO STANDARDISE ROMAN SCRIPT KONKANI? DO WE HAVE ROMAN SCRIPT KONKNNI SCHOLARS TO STANDARDISE ROMAN SCRIPT KONKANI? Need to know in order to lay strong foundation for Roman Script Konkani. Cip UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Goanet]Re: Goans, GoaNet and caste

2005-07-09 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Cecil Pinto wrote: What Frederick Noronha thinks: Fernandes from Chinchinim? M! Must find out what caste they are. What Frederick Noronha does: Opens his indexed database. Enters Fernandes and Chinchinim and finds out what caste family your sister-in-laws married into. ---

Re: [Goanet]Re: How will the left wingers spin this?

2005-07-09 Thread Mario Goveia
Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tariq Ali is both a left-winger and of Muslim origin. In my view, the point he makes below need to be taken note of, rather than going along solely with the version largely emerging from the dominant media perspective.-FN

Re: [Goanet]Re: cybermatrimonials

2005-07-09 Thread halur rasho
Hindusim is to be defined by 'white' hindus? caste is institutionalised in Hinduism. If you do not know this , you know very little about India. Catholicism is rooted in european history and european social practices, just as hinduism is rooted in indian history and social practices. This is just

Re: [Goanet]CyberMatrimonial: Goan Bride Wanted..

2005-07-09 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 09/07/05, Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, I have never been able to understand the mentality of the Goans who insist on providing the spouse for their child. Providing a spouse for your nephew is funnier. Funnier still, is when distant relatives try to settle you

[Goanet]Re: cybermatrimonials

2005-07-09 Thread George Pinto
Which one is it? If it is a part of Hinduism as you write below, then is the 'establishment' as you also write below violating Hinduism by trying to 'erode caste'. Is the establishment anti-Hindu? --- halur rasho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, caste is, like it or not, a part of Hinduism.

RE: [Goanet]Single?

2005-07-09 Thread Cip Fernandes
Gabe, I was fortunate to be born a Brahmin and no harm in wearing it with pride What is the fortune? and, what is the pride? Just curious! Cip UK -Original Message- Gabe Menezes, Sent: 09 July 2005 17:25 On 09/07/05, Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Cip, Also it's

[Goanet]Re: cybermatrimonials

2005-07-09 Thread George Pinto
--- halur rasho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First, caste is, like it or not, a part of Hinduism. If it has no legitimate basis in religion, as you say, you would have to convert every indian hindu to islam or catholiscism. Ready to take on the task, King George? I have heard a number of

Re: [Goanet]New rules for GoaNet poster identification - Unofficial

2005-07-09 Thread halur rasho
I thank GOD everyday that I am an atheist. --- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition to the announcement by George Pinto, about GoaNet being hived off into seprate segments depending one's caste related views, the Admin Team has decided on a new rule for posters to identify

Re: [Goanet]Re: cybermatrimonials

2005-07-09 Thread halur rasho
Before making sweeping statements , which can betray your ignorance of the topic, perhaps studying the caste system might be helpful? Its origins are very much racial. Today with all the inter-mixing , one cannot tell, but its origins are indeed racial. It is like the blond haired german or

Re: [Goanet]CyberMatrimonial: Goan Bride Wanted..

2005-07-09 Thread Mervyn Lobo
JoeGoaUk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, bride wanted for my nephew. ABOUT HIM - 27 years old well settled in UK plus having his own new home in GOA + own flat in London. Joe, I have never been able to understand the mentality of the Goans who insist on providing the spouse for

Re: [Goanet]Single?

2005-07-09 Thread Viviana
Guys - precisely. You can also find ads listing MWM or MBF - M for Married. Viviana halur rasho wrote: Cecil, Ask any women (and it is the same in Bombay or New York), if every man who hits on her is single? --- Cip Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that Halur Rasho is

RE: [Goanet]Single?

2005-07-09 Thread halur rasho
Cecil, Ask any women (and it is the same in Bombay or New York), if every man who hits on her is single? --- Cip Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that Halur Rasho is wearing glasses (in his subtle mind), hence he sees people's skin colour as white, black, brown, etc Cip

Re: [Goanet]Re: cybermatrimonials

2005-07-09 Thread halur rasho
Your knowledge of the indian scene is rather poor! Read a good work on caste . First, caste is, like it or not, a part of Hinduism. If it has no legitimate basis in religion, as you say,you would have to convert every indian hindu to islam or catholiscism. Ready to take on the task, King George?

[Goanet]British Raj was beneficial : P.M.

2005-07-09 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://in.rediff.com/news/2005/jul/09pm1.htm British Raj was beneficial: PM July 09, 2005 18:15 IST Last Updated: July 09, 2005 19:47 IST Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Friday acknowledged the beneficial consequences of British colonial rule like free press, constitutional government,

[Goanet]US Postal Service in Goa

2005-07-09 Thread Joseph Falcao
Do you experienced any problem in letters/correspondence being delivered to Goa? We exprienced it twice. I would like to know if this might be a common problem. Thanks, Joesph

Re: [Goanet]Goans, GoaNet and caste

2005-07-09 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 09/07/05, Viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cecil - as usual you have managed to find humor in any situation. My only question is this: If caste can be ascertained by name and village, why is there ever a need to mention it? Viviana RESPONSE: It is essential to reiterate, in case there

Re: [Goanet]Single?

2005-07-09 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 09/07/05, Nasci Caldeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Cip, Also it's wrong for people to be caste conscious! Nasci Caldeira Melbourne. RESPONSE: Hope you don't mind me informing you, but what a load of twaddle. If it's wrong for people to be caste consious, then they should, not be

Re: [Goanet]Single?

2005-07-09 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 09/07/05, Viviana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cip that's not fair. He's accurately quoting the ads one sees in the States. Viviana Comment: What's your excuse for reading these advertisements? Not much to pass your time? Get on to the computer and start typing! Cheers, Gabe Menezes.

[Goanet]Death Announcements in Goa

2005-07-09 Thread Cecil Pinto
Tongue-in-cheek By Cecil Pinto Cecil Pinto educates Gabe Menezes, a UK based Goan, on the finer points of Goan Catholic Death Advertisements in local newspapers. Gabe Menezes: Are obituary notices published in your local dailies? Cecil Pinto: We don't have obituaries. Just

Re: [Goanet]People like ourselves?

2005-07-09 Thread Viviana
Cecil Pinto wrote: Cecil: You are mixing caste with class. What makes you think there are no Brahmins working as domestic workers? Good point. Cecil: How exactly are you guilty of it? You are of Sicilian origin (Caucasian). You do not have any Goan ancestors (to the best of my

Re: [Goanet]Goans, GoaNet and caste

2005-07-09 Thread Viviana
Cecil - as usual you have managed to find humor in any situation. My only question is this: If caste can be ascertained by name and village, why is there ever a need to mention it? Viviana F/??/C/H MWF Cecil Pinto wrote: What Frederick Noronha thinks: Fernandes from Chinchinim? M!

[Goanet]Caste and other stuff on GoaNet

2005-07-09 Thread Cecil Pinto
At the outset let me state that I consider Eddie Verdes a friend and a very sincere person who speaks his mind. What I say below is not personally directed at Eddie but for the purpose of debate (and a little fun!). --- Eddie Verdes wrote: I am also a silent Goanetter, but I would

[Goanet]People like ourselves?

2005-07-09 Thread Cecil Pinto
Viviana wrote: I agree with Eugene and find Halur's point interesting. Does anyone really believe that a mother from a SC/ST would actively look for an RC Goan Brahmin for her daughter?? Don't you think she'd look around for someone within her own ethnic/cultural/racial group? Presuming that she

[Goanet]Goans, GoaNet and caste

2005-07-09 Thread Cecil Pinto
Viviana wrote: By the way, do you know Sylvia Coelho e Fernandes or Angela Coelho e Fernandes from Chinchinim? They're two of my sisters-in-law (out of 5). Also, did you know Dona Amina Dos Reis e Fernandes?? She passed away about 2 months ago, she was my great aunt, by marriage. ---

RE: [Goanet]Single?

2005-07-09 Thread Nasci Caldeira
Hello Cip, People do have different colours of skin; Hence u are wrong to say that Halur is wearing glasses! All the worlds people have skin colour; skin is not colourless! Skin colours can be white, black, royal purple, brown, brahmin fair, and you did not mention 'yellow'. In India

Re: [Goanet]CyberMatrimonial: Goan Bride Wanted..

2005-07-09 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 09/07/05, Vincent Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JOE - ! me too looking for Two Brides for my Two Friends (Twins) - same same ... but different ! Comment: First and foremost before I bring any proposals to your doors; could we have a published photograph of the candidates! Looking for

Re: [Goanet]Single?

2005-07-09 Thread Viviana
Cip that's not fair. He's accurately quoting the ads one sees in the States. Viviana Cip Fernandes wrote: It appears that Halur Rasho is wearing glasses (in his subtle mind), hence he sees people's skin colour as white, black, brown, etc Cip UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

[Goanet]July 8, 1497...

2005-07-09 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Too late for me ;-) because it's already July 9 here. But perhaps on time for those where the dateline works differently... Wikipedia reminds me: Selected anniversaries July 8: 1497 - Vasco da Gama set sail on the first direct European voyage to India. See details at

[Goanet]Kal anink aiz - kitlo forok (ek kovita)

2005-07-09 Thread ACC GENERAL - CYPRIANO
KAL ANINK AIZ - KITLO FOROK Kal tum aslo toso Kalcho tum aiz disnam oso Kalche bhari vichar tuje Ratiam bhitor bodol'le koxe Kal aink aiz kitlo forok Chintam chintam guspotam Kalcheo ieadi uspotam Kalchi tuji dukh-bori gozal Disli Pankaj Udhasachi ghazal Pun aichem tujem vonttavelem ghit

[Goanet]Single!

2005-07-09 Thread domnic fernandes
Dear Cecil, What Halur wrote is exactly what Americans follow. I know this for a fact because Saudi Aramco follows American system. According to the British system, which we follow in India, an unmarried man is called a 'bachelor' and an unmarried woman a 'spinster' respectively. In

[Goanet]It's been confirmed!

2005-07-09 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/jul/09bpo.htm London police confirm Indian BPO fraud Ashish Aggarwal Gaurie Mishra in New Delhi | July 09, 2005 12:47 IST The London police team investigating the case of UK Banks' data theft from Indian BPOs involving Karan Bahree has said the customer

RE: [Goanet]Caste and Goanet

2005-07-09 Thread Nasci Caldeira
Dear George, I have tthree more D-lists that could be added. No hard feelings! :-) :-) 1) Goans who are seriously anti-Vatican, 2)Goans who want Indian 'canonised' saints; but will not be satisfied in acheiving saintliness themselves. 3) Goan Scientists and Creation of the Universe etc.

[Goanet]Konkani Dalgado Konkani Akademy

2005-07-09 Thread Ancy Salvadore D'Souza Paladka
Konkani has attained state recognition, It has been included in the eighth schedule of the constitution. Sahitya Academy awards are bestowed on a privileged few. Lakhs of rupees are spent in the name of konkani, Huge sums are sanctioned to produce konkani telefilms for persons having the right

Re: [Goanet]Re: How will the left wingers spin this?

2005-07-09 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 08/07/05, Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]How will the left wingers spin this? ...Let's see how the BBC, The Guardian, the NYT, the Toronto Globe Mail, Toronto Star and others on the left will spin the outrage in

[Goanet]Re: CyberMatrimonial: Goan Bride Wanted

2005-07-09 Thread luis rodrigues
Great!! Not surprised, this is much less than the expectations from our latest breed of GGG ( Great Goan Grooms)available coz not bought by ( Goan ) brides!!! Cheers, Luis Rodrigues Chimbel / Dubai JOE - ! me too looking for Two Brides for my Two Friends (Twins) - same same ... but

RE: [Goanet]Single?

2005-07-09 Thread Cip Fernandes
It appears that Halur Rasho is wearing glasses (in his subtle mind), hence he sees people's skin colour as white, black, brown, etc Cip UK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cecil Pinto Sent: 09 July 2005 10:08 To: goanet@goanet.org; [EMAIL

Re: [Goanet]Al Qaeda in Europe.

2005-07-09 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 08/07/05, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... after ostensibly knowing what Waziristan is like, the double game that Pakistan plays, and the possible involvement of Iran, where some reports say Bin Laden has been given sanctuary. RESPONSE: The

[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes (In Brief * July 8-9, 2005 *** Sardinha elected Goa Speaker

2005-07-09 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
--- G o a n e t * News Bytes In Brief * July 8-9, 2005 --- July 9, 2005 o Sardinha elected unopposed as Speaker. Victoria is deputy speaker. Election is 'illegal'

[Goanet][OFFTOPIC] Water-waste economy - [CSE fortnightly news bulletin - July 7 edition]]

2005-07-09 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Might be relevant for Goa... Forwarded Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:50:30 +0530 CSE's Fortnightly News Bulletin = An e-bulletin from the Centre for Science and Environment (CSE), India, to our network of friends and

[Goanet]Some incomprehensible posts.

2005-07-09 Thread Gabe Menezes
Some incomprehensible posts, in regard to the recent bombings in London. One poster proudly proclaimed that Tony Blair got re-elected, so that showed, that the country was happy with the Iraq adventure? We voted on several issues and in fact it was because of the Iraq adventure that The labour

[Goanet]New rules for GoaNet poster identification - Unofficial

2005-07-09 Thread Cecil Pinto
In addition to the announcement by George Pinto, about GoaNet being hived off into seprate segments depending one's caste related views, the Admin Team has decided on a new rule for posters to identify themselves. Everyone will now sign off in the format below: Name Surname, Current Permanent

[Goanet]Tuzo Rosto Hagach Sompta - New Konkani Film

2005-07-09 Thread borg costa
Coming soon new konkani film Tuzo Rosto Hangach Sompta The story of the film is written by Chrisferns is directed by C.Fernandes. The shooting of the film is going in full swing in Dubai and the cast include The man of thousand faces C. D'Silva Antonette de Maina from goa beside other local

Re: [Goanet]CyberMatrimonial: Goan Bride Wanted..

2005-07-09 Thread Vincent Andrade
JOE - ! me too looking for Two Brides for my Two Friends (Twins) - same same ... but different ! One : Wanted Bride for Good Looking Bachelor, Never Married, No Issues, Occassional Drinker Smoker. Interested in Antiques, Tri-Sexual (Always tries for sex), Age No Bar, Caste No Bar, Color No Bar,

[Goanet]Padri - comming soon on screen

2005-07-09 Thread borg costa
Raymond Quadros - Getting into the Adventure of Konkani Film Production with 'Padri' From the first look, one would never realize he could be an achiever in business circles, and the least as one who would venture into a gamble of a venture of making a Konkani film. There are already several past

[Goanet]Roddo Naka: A must for all

2005-07-09 Thread borg costa
The showman of Konkani stage Prince Jacob has released his new tiatr ‘Roddo Naka’ and it has come out with a bang. As always, thanks to the innovative ideas introduced on Konkani stage by Prince Jacob, the audience has got another opportunity to watch something unique, as far as stage setting

[Goanet]REJOICE, WE HAVE A WOMAN AS DY. SPEAKERIN THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY

2005-07-09 Thread gjlf labour
A FIRST:REJOICE! WE HAVE A WOMAN DY.SPEAKER IN THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF GOA. We are glad that Mrs Victoria Fernandes has eventually made it to the Constitutional position of the Dy. speaker of the Legislative Assembly of Goa. This is the first time that a woman would be occupying the

[Goanet]PM slams London blasts

2005-07-09 Thread joseph fernandes
Gabe Menezes said: The big powers, such as Germany and France as well as many others stayed out. Their citizens are sleeping happy while we have to live with fear. Why dont you then quit your British citizenship and move over to France/Germany? Joseph Fernandes Mumbai India