[Goanet]old konkani samples from Diogo Ribeiro's Vocabulario da Lingoa Canarim (1626)

2004-03-20 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
some old konkani sample from Diogo Ribeiro's Vocabulario da Lingoa Canarim (1626), taken from a paper by Rocky V. Miranda. see bottom for reference. I would appreciate having the contact email of the author of the paper - Rocky V. Miranda. TIA agnelo

Re: [Goanet]Dealing with rats...

2004-03-04 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
the threshold of pain in humans is about 130 decibel (dB) above the threshold of hearing (0 dB). sticking the unit near your ear can potentially damage your hearing permanently. check with medical professionals if it is safe to use. agnelo 15. Re: Dealing with rats... (Lawrence Rodrigues)

Re:[Goanet]Wildlife in Goa...

2004-02-25 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
It could have been a fox or possibly some other member of the canidae, I've seen one and more often heard it upto the '80s. A pesky chicken lifter and a howler. any information on the porcupine ? Konkani salandor (= barbed rat) ? this animal's name sometimes turns up in the etymology of

RE: [Goanet]Goans in IAS?

2004-02-23 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Rui, Daryl did ask the right questions. your pontification only reflects your colored perception, not facts. a simpler explanation is goans in general give a rats ass for being ambitious or risk takers. we need a closer look at our culture. we are quite content being glorified clerks. a goan

[Goanet]re: Eddie's take on Floriano,Miguel ani Musharrafabad

2004-02-22 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Hello Floriano, your comments were in the context of a spat with Miguel. However, I have some issues with your post. I think these are not related to the excitement of the moment but reflect your long term views. Floriano: Like Mhapsa (which I have observed being spelled so for the first time)

[Goanet]GOA, WESTERNISATION, MUSIC:

2004-01-22 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Dr. Jose Pereira has made important contributions to Konkani and Goa studies. however, I do feel that total attention is being paid to western aspects to the detriment of our own. I have rarely or never hear a discussion on Konkani ovi/ovyo. it had to take a foreigner Fr. Thomas Stevens to

[Goanet]Re: Re-inventing History on the Net.

2004-01-21 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Dear Floriano, the lives of SFX, Jesus, Ram, Krishna or Muhammad are not private. far from it, they strove to make their messages public. if some claim that there cannot be discussions in public, that claim has no basis. there should be and will be free discussions. As I see it, there are

[Goanet]Re: Re-inventing History on the Net.

2004-01-19 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
it is commonplace to mythologize, deify and place ideas beyond question. do not feel upset if St. Francis Xavier or the popes are examined. history is not static. we need to ask questions and examine facts. those who prefer myths are free to walk down that road. agnelo 7. Re: Re-inventing

[Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #760 - 16 msgs

2004-01-17 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Konkani basic course. Almeida, Matthew, Konkani mulavo korsa =Konkani basic course / Matthew Almeida. 1991 is a good book to start. it has a useful section on language learning. it helps to have a group and/or a person fluent in Konkani. it teaches Konkani in the devanagari script, this might

Re: [Goanet]Re: Let's have some humanity here

2004-01-07 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- Marlon, few newspapers will publish letters to the editor without identification of the author. so much for anonymous

[Goanet]Re: Sh or x in Konknni

2004-01-06 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- pardon my question. 'sh', 'x' etc are transliterated devanAgarI symbols. however which symbols refers to which sibilant

[Goanet]Re: Let's have some humanity here

2004-01-05 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- IMO, opinions better come with a name attached. anonymous opinion is irresponsible. we could end up with kadli jib, layli

[Goanet]Let's have some humanity here

2004-01-01 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Goanet next meets in Goa: January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). Goanet founder Herman Carneiro will be there. See you there! -- delving into the finer issues misses the main issue, which is: prostitution is illegal. this implies that baina must be

[Goanet]Merry Christmas

2003-12-25 Thread agnelo mascarenhas
Goanet meets in Goa: December 27, 12 noon and January 7, 4 pm (meeting point: Kala Academy canteen). See you there! -- Dearest Joel, WISH YOU A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS Agnelo Mascarenhas - Original Message - From: Joel D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

[Goanet]Re: Konkani Udraka

2003-12-01 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
This is about Tony Correia-Afonso's post. Basque is not Indoeuropean. The language of the Basque is Euskara. an isolated language, it does not fit into any of the language families found today in europe i.e. IE, fino-ugric, uralic/altaic. agnelo 4. Konkani Udraka (Teotonio R. de Souza)

[Goanet]RE: This language of ours........... some answers (Neal Pinto)

2003-11-30 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
udak or udok is from Skt. and Indo-European (IE). IE root wed- water. The Skt. root is ud or uda. an example is sam-udra = occean, literally 'confluence of waters'. Skt. udra = otter. Skt. udaka has a different meaning, it is connected to offering of water to dead ancestors. ( I believe) darya

[Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #582 - 14 msgs

2003-11-06 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Hello Tim, The subject is of great interest to me. I am looking to access or prepare konkani lessons for learning on the web. do keep me posted of interesting developements. best regards agnelo --__--__-- Message: 7 From: Tim de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 05

[Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #574 - 18 msgs

2003-11-04 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
[Sanskrit svastika, sign of good luck, swastika, from svasti, well-being. See (e)su- in Indo-European Roots.] ref: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=swastika from Monier-Williams Skt. dictionary: .. the majority of scholars regard it as a solar symbol ; that is , as representing a

[Goanet]sahitya akademi booklist - konkani

2003-10-25 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
http://www.sahitya-akademi.org/sahitya-akademi/bklst12.htm = (\___/) (o\ /o) /|:.V.:|\ jgs\\:// -` `-~~^~^~^~^^~~^^^~^ When all is said and done, much more is said than done. __ Do you

Re: [Goanet]Goanet Archives

2003-10-25 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
indirectly lookup archives from: http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet directly, but this can possibly go stale http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/ agnelo Goanet archives can be found @ www.goanet.org - Bosco __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video

[Goanet]Prexiddenttichem Vaarem

2003-10-25 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
President's Desk G U M B A L L Report: Prexiddenttichem Vaarem { Alex, matxem hem centre align anim bold cor re, kassem kortat tem visorlom } -- It has been brought to my notice, courtesy of gumnet.org, the report of President of Chimbel, by his excellency Xri. Pandurang Fernandes. I am

[Goanet]Wisdom in Goan Proverbs - Book

2003-10-21 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
I just had to flog this horse back to life! I do not know how valid this information is, the email addresses are several years old. the text is taken from the website: http://www.goa-world.com/books/konkani.htm For those speakers and fans of Konkani, there's a good book just out.

Re: [Goanet]Konkani Proverbs....Translated ????

2003-10-10 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Hi Miguel, not knowing the context is my error. thanks for the nice explanations. these are idioms. the meaning of the whole phrase is different from the meaning of the sum of its words. perhaps, a literal translation is meaningless. agnelo Message: 11 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:26:55 +0530

[Goanet]spice

2003-10-08 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
I have seen this spice a long time ago. I don't know it's name. the website gives it's Konkani term as 'teppal, tippal'. a quotation from the webite: In India, cooks sometimes use another relative of sichuan pepper with slightly larger capsules (Z. rhetsa = Z. limonella); its usage is mostly

[Goanet]The Konkani Proverbs - V. P. Chavan

2003-09-30 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
/*/ The Konkani Proverbs V. P. Chavan ISBN 81-206-0664-7 pp 87. first published in 1925. each proverb is in devanagari konkani, explanation is in english. A good collection of proverbs from a spectrum of Konkani speakers. laconic rustic wit!

[Goanet]Why are so many people born in the 4th week of September

2003-09-24 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
fat observation. you trolling or what re ? vo khoro nirmoll ? that ofcourse is the Santa *Clause*. Santa was going or rather coming in town, resulting in higher expectations. don't believe in Santa? check out: http://www.westegg.com/nash/santa.cgi In lands at higher latitudes, there might be a

[Goanet]Re: Goanet digest, Vol 1 #430 - 17 msgs

2003-09-11 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
goans have been emigrating in significant numbers since atleast the 1830's. they migrated to all parts of the *british* empire: mumbai, karachi, rangoon, east africa etc. prior to 1961, about 20%(?) of goa's 500K population were residing in mumbai. I do not want to make judgements, I just note the

RE: [Goanet]RE: COLACO

2003-09-08 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Paulo, your love of democracy and freedoms is amazing, your references to manipur and the princely states show that. the portuguese ruled goa for 450 years, can you tell goa-netters when democracy bloomed in goa in those years? are you refering to the free choice that slaves had under slave

Re:[Goanet]One Goa being Numero Uno

2003-09-05 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Excellent subject! there was another excellent article on career options by Yvonne Vaz. this is the stuff we need to spend our energies on. comments on the engineering aspects alone: as you point out, we should never focus on a few educational institutions such as the IIT or IISc. they can

Re:[Goanet]Morya mhunnat... MORYA!! Morya mhunnat... MORYA!! (Legend, 101 Names celebrations)

2003-08-28 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Cecil, the count of names is 108. you list 108 names, but refer to them as 101 names :) entry #29 should be: gajakarna = elephant eared. your source has the error. I'd like to know the significance of the number 108. anyone ? agnelo Message: 4 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 18:10:18 +0530 From:

Re: [Goanet]Portuguese nationality a colonial favour?

2003-08-26 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
a colonial favour? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Collective sacrifices are all those Goans who left their homeland Goa and are working in the Gulf to prop up a bharati government. The corruption taking place to prop up the bharati parties. viva quisling! --- Agnelo

[Goanet]Re: Correction of false statements

2003-08-25 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Edgar Martins, Your 3 points regarding gypsum. 1. I am no dud and 2. gypsum is alkaline not acidic. gypsum CaSO4 is ph neutral. limestone, dolomite CaCO3 are alkaline. 3. It will raise the ph value of the soil if used. it lowers ph *only* in sodium induced alkalinity as in the

Re: [Goanet]Appropriate Dress Code for Worship?

2003-08-25 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Message: 1 Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:52:16 +0530 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Luiza de Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Appropriate Dress Code for Worship? Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very well written reply Cecil Pinto. Ofcourse, in a place of worship people should be

[Goanet] Re: June 10 Day of Camoes and Communities

2003-06-10 Thread Agnelo Mascarenhas
Camoes is a Portuguese cultural figure, to refresh your memory, Goans are ethnic Indians. what isthe relevance of Camoes to Goans and goanet ? Goa's elected representatives and the people choose to treat their legacy and their futureas they see fit. Your useof the term 'bharatis' for Indians is