RE: [Goanet]LEST WE FORGET Rise in suicide cases in Goa
Just using this post as an excuse to make a general observation that there is a general tendency for too much of negaholism or postings of a negative nature ... though this post is of informative news... -- Brian __ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]22 MAR 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 22 March 2004 Check GOACOM VIDEO NEWSCAST at http://www.goacom.com/news goacomNEWS19 - Financial health of state is very sound: CM. - Luizinho says Govt. violating code of conduct. - No differences with Babush: BJP. - And more. CLIP: Diesel_Pongero_Seeds - Goan NRI Emmanuel D'Silva's endeavour to produce diesel from the seeds of the Pongero trees found in Goa and the rest of India. Website: http://www.goacom.com Webzine GoaNOW: http://www.goacom.com/goanow Daily Clippings: http://www.goacom.com/news NERI INSTALLED ARCHBISHOP: Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao was installed as the new Archbishop of Goa and Daman in a religious ceremony attended by over 10,000 faithful, religious leaders and others at the Se Cathedral in Old Goa yesterday (March 21). 'Sunday of Joy' was also the day of rejoining for the archdiocese of Goa and Daman as Apostolic Nuncio to India and Nepal, Archbishop Pedro Lopez Quintana, installed the Archbishop-designate in his episcopal seat. Outgoing Archbishop Raul Gonsalves handed over the crozier (Episcopal staff) to his successor at the ceremony preceding the Eucharistic celebration. The biggest church in Asia reverberated to the clapping of the congregation. (GT) ARCHBISHOP FERRAO INSTALLED: Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao was installed as the 34th Archbishop of Goa and Daman at a solemn ceremony held at the Se Cathedral at Old Goa. Archbishop Ferrao is the second Goan to head the Roman Catholic church in Goa and Daman succeeding Archbishop Raul Nicolau Gonsalves, who has now retired. (H) REV FERRAO TAKES CHARGE AS ARCHBISHOP: The Most Reverend Filipe Neri Ferao was installed as the new Archbishop of Goa and Daman, Primate of the East and the Patriarch of the East Indies in the Se Cathedral, Old Goa, today (March 21) morning in a ceremony full of pomp and reverence. Rev Ferrao (51) who served as Auxiliary Bishop of the archdiocese for the last 10 years, was installed as the new Archbishop by the Vatican's Apostolic Nuncio to India, Archbishop Rev Pedro Lopez Quintana in the presence of outgoing archbishop Rev Raul Gonsalves. Eighteen bishop in golden vestments from all over India, including two Cardinals-Cardinal Ivan Dias (Mumbai) and Cardinal Emeritus Simon Pimenta-and over 300 priests attended the ceremony. The Se Cathedral was packed to capacity with people from all over Goa. The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar, graced the occasion towards the end and sat for over an hour before congratulating the new Archbishop with a bouquet of flowers. (NT) CHURCH SHOULD UNITE EVERYBODY: Outgoing Archbishop Raul Gonsalves expressed the hope that the Church would bring about the communion of all communities. He was speaking at the function to felicitate Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao at Old Goa after his installation. He said he was content that he was able to implement at least some of the recommendations made by the Synod last year. He termed the new Archbishop as a gift from God. (GT) NCP-CONGRESS DEAL HAS MGP IN A FIX: With the North Goa seat going to the NCP, the hopes of MGP of contesting as nominee of the 'grand alliance' against the BJP in the April 26 Lok Sabha elections and thereby reviving its status have been dashed. We were given to understand that the North Goa seat would be given to us, admitted the MGP chief Shashikala Kakodkar. (H) TOURIST GUIDE STABBED: Jimmy Lourenco, a tourist guide, was seriously injured after he was attacked by three persons near the Dr Ambedkar garden, Panaji, yesterday evening. According to information available, the assailants attacked Lourenco with a knife after he refused to withdraw a police complaint lodged against one Oliveira. (GT) BODY FOUND: A German national was found dead in a guest house at Vasavaddo, Benaulim, on March 21. The Colva police said that he was staying in the guest house for some time. (NT) CRACKDOWN ON CARS WITH TINTED GLASSES: The south Goa police have booked over 203 cases against car owners having tinted glasses beyond the prescribed standards. The drive which began last week, was initiated considering the high incidence of crime in the recent past. (NT) SAUDI, SALGAOCAR JOINT VENTURE: Ambassador of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Saleh Mohammed Al-Ghamdhi yesterday stated that India is the largest market for Saudi Arabia and that the business between the two countries was to the tune of about four billion dollars during 2000-2001. He was speaking at the inauguration of the Amiantit Fibreglass Industries Private Ltd, a joint venture between Amiantit Group of Saudi Arabia and Shivanand Salgaocar of the Salgaocar Group of Goa at Nhavelim, Bicholim. (GT) PROBE INTO IMMIGRATION VIOLATION: Investigations into the deportation of the Punjabi from Amsterdam seem to be clearly pointing out lapses on the role played by the immigration authorities. These lapses seem to have come to light after a day-long investigation that was carried out in the presences of top police brass of the
[Goanet-news]22 MAR 2004: GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS
GOACOM DAILY NEWS CLIPPINGS 22 March 2004 Check GOACOM VIDEO NEWSCAST at http://www.goacom.com/news goacomNEWS19 - Financial health of state is very sound: CM. - Luizinho says Govt. violating code of conduct. - No differences with Babush: BJP. - And more. CLIP: Diesel_Pongero_Seeds - Goan NRI Emmanuel D'Silva's endeavour to produce diesel from the seeds of the Pongero trees found in Goa and the rest of India. Website: http://www.goacom.com Webzine GoaNOW: http://www.goacom.com/goanow Daily Clippings: http://www.goacom.com/news NERI INSTALLED ARCHBISHOP: Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao was installed as the new Archbishop of Goa and Daman in a religious ceremony attended by over 10,000 faithful, religious leaders and others at the Se Cathedral in Old Goa yesterday (March 21). 'Sunday of Joy' was also the day of rejoining for the archdiocese of Goa and Daman as Apostolic Nuncio to India and Nepal, Archbishop Pedro Lopez Quintana, installed the Archbishop-designate in his episcopal seat. Outgoing Archbishop Raul Gonsalves handed over the crozier (Episcopal staff) to his successor at the ceremony preceding the Eucharistic celebration. The biggest church in Asia reverberated to the clapping of the congregation. (GT) ARCHBISHOP FERRAO INSTALLED: Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao was installed as the 34th Archbishop of Goa and Daman at a solemn ceremony held at the Se Cathedral at Old Goa. Archbishop Ferrao is the second Goan to head the Roman Catholic church in Goa and Daman succeeding Archbishop Raul Nicolau Gonsalves, who has now retired. (H) REV FERRAO TAKES CHARGE AS ARCHBISHOP: The Most Reverend Filipe Neri Ferao was installed as the new Archbishop of Goa and Daman, Primate of the East and the Patriarch of the East Indies in the Se Cathedral, Old Goa, today (March 21) morning in a ceremony full of pomp and reverence. Rev Ferrao (51) who served as Auxiliary Bishop of the archdiocese for the last 10 years, was installed as the new Archbishop by the Vatican's Apostolic Nuncio to India, Archbishop Rev Pedro Lopez Quintana in the presence of outgoing archbishop Rev Raul Gonsalves. Eighteen bishop in golden vestments from all over India, including two Cardinals-Cardinal Ivan Dias (Mumbai) and Cardinal Emeritus Simon Pimenta-and over 300 priests attended the ceremony. The Se Cathedral was packed to capacity with people from all over Goa. The Chief Minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar, graced the occasion towards the end and sat for over an hour before congratulating the new Archbishop with a bouquet of flowers. (NT) CHURCH SHOULD UNITE EVERYBODY: Outgoing Archbishop Raul Gonsalves expressed the hope that the Church would bring about the communion of all communities. He was speaking at the function to felicitate Archbishop Filipe Neri Ferrao at Old Goa after his installation. He said he was content that he was able to implement at least some of the recommendations made by the Synod last year. He termed the new Archbishop as a gift from God. (GT) NCP-CONGRESS DEAL HAS MGP IN A FIX: With the North Goa seat going to the NCP, the hopes of MGP of contesting as nominee of the 'grand alliance' against the BJP in the April 26 Lok Sabha elections and thereby reviving its status have been dashed. We were given to understand that the North Goa seat would be given to us, admitted the MGP chief Shashikala Kakodkar. (H) TOURIST GUIDE STABBED: Jimmy Lourenco, a tourist guide, was seriously injured after he was attacked by three persons near the Dr Ambedkar garden, Panaji, yesterday evening. According to information available, the assailants attacked Lourenco with a knife after he refused to withdraw a police complaint lodged against one Oliveira. (GT) BODY FOUND: A German national was found dead in a guest house at Vasavaddo, Benaulim, on March 21. The Colva police said that he was staying in the guest house for some time. (NT) CRACKDOWN ON CARS WITH TINTED GLASSES: The south Goa police have booked over 203 cases against car owners having tinted glasses beyond the prescribed standards. The drive which began last week, was initiated considering the high incidence of crime in the recent past. (NT) SAUDI, SALGAOCAR JOINT VENTURE: Ambassador of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Saleh Mohammed Al-Ghamdhi yesterday stated that India is the largest market for Saudi Arabia and that the business between the two countries was to the tune of about four billion dollars during 2000-2001. He was speaking at the inauguration of the Amiantit Fibreglass Industries Private Ltd, a joint venture between Amiantit Group of Saudi Arabia and Shivanand Salgaocar of the Salgaocar Group of Goa at Nhavelim, Bicholim. (GT) PROBE INTO IMMIGRATION VIOLATION: Investigations into the deportation of the Punjabi from Amsterdam seem to be clearly pointing out lapses on the role played by the immigration authorities. These lapses seem to have come to light after a day-long investigation that was carried out in the presences of top police brass of the
[Goanet]Birthdays from 21st - 25th Mar 2004
Wishing you all a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY on behalf of GoaNetters to 21-Mar Subhash L. Nerurker India 22-Mar Ulysses Menezes Kuwait 22-Mar Viviana Coelho New York/San Francisco 23-Mar Liberata Irani Pune 24-Mar George EasawGoa 25-Mar Diago D'souza Mumbai/Mumbai Thanks, Vincente. Please do notify if your e-mail address has been changed, for cc'ing B'day wished to your e-mail address. NOTE: Please send your Birthday's details for those who haven't done so far to the following e-mail address([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with subject as Birthday/Birthday details as per below format. Birth Day/Month NameBirth/Current Place _ All the action. All the drama. Get NCAA hoops coverage at MSN Sports by ESPN. http://msn.espn.go.com/index.html?partnersite=espn ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]Re: Church built on Temple?
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No! President Pandurang has a better idea. He will give an award to the best Goan internet historian of the year. Only those who are good at copying from websites, junk emails and chain letters are qualified to receive this award. Those who have studied history in the classroom or read historical books and documents will be disqualified. Those who have written a book or an article on Goan history are eligible as long as all the material contained in it is copied from flashy websites, junk emails and chain letters, and also, as long as the source of the copied material is not cited or acknowledged. This is a great opportunity for all plagiarists to finally receive some recognition for their efforts. Please spread the word in all Goan forums, and to highly skilled plagiarists who are no longer subscribed to this mailing list. Why do I get the feeling that Gilbert Lawrence is going to win this prize hands down? Perhaps if I want to give myself a chance I must start some revisionist history myself. -Tariq __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
Re: [Goanet]RE: bharatis
--- gilbert menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They weren't bharatis, but Spaniards of Bharati origin--similar to you--foreign nationality of bharati origin. Poor guys, so many years in jail just for selling illegal SIM cards. ole! regards, Gilbert. Menezes, You condone the malabarism bit that killed hundreds innit? Worried more about your bharati origins! B. Colaco ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]RE: BCCI , CONGRESS, Vatican and Krishna's expected Bosom Duck!
From: N.KRISHNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] The recent report that London managers fraud costs BoI $82m may not be a simple case of fraud and could involve political pressure and if the past is any thing to go by, Congress could be the prime suspect. Dear Mr.N. Krishna, BSc (Eng), DBM, DITM, PGDTQM, PGDEM, MIE, CE, MIHospE (UK), MemASHRAE (USA), ISHRAE Ex. Senior Scientific Officer, Bhabha Atomic Research Centre, Bombay, I still await your clarification to my TWO previously asked but yet unanswered very simple questions: 1. WHAT is the basis of the allegation you made in your letter to the new CEC? : Sonia Gandhi ... voted in 1980, a solid three years before she became a citizen of India 2. Could you please enlighten me WHY it was that HINDU MEN expected HINDU WOMEN of lower caste to FLASH THEIR BREASTS as a form of salutation? reference. courtesy http://www.kerala.cc/keralahistory/index25.htm Nowyou have come up with some NEW well worn talking point. The Iraq Oil bribe for India Congress bogus story was posted several months ago on Goanet by a Chaddiwalla whose name escapes me at this moment. He did NOT bother to post the DENIAL. Here you are AGAIN with this BCCI and Indian Congress storyand the Vatican Bank addendum. I for one fully agree with you. The Congress Topiwallas are, and the Banco Ambrosiano fellas were NO GOOD ! But, the monopoly on being NO GOOD is not only with the Topiwallas - and the Vatican wallas. What about the Chaddiwallas. While you procedd to DUCK and Weave around the First 2 questions reposted above, May I ask my question No 3 of a learned man (with Multiple Diplomatosis Exponensis) like you: Do you agree with the following story in the Chandigarh Tribune ? I DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE IT: Await your response. Though as per my experience with other Tumeric spouts we have had before. They spew hatred, abuse and run away with a DUCK of the questions jc http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20040226/world.htm#1 UK charities scam linked to Sangh Parivar Ashish Kumar Sen Washington, February 25 A report to be released in the House of Lords in London today provides alarming evidence linking UK-based charities to Sangh Parivar groups in India. The report, In Bad Faith? British Charity and Hindu Extremism, produced by Awaaz, a London-based secular network, states that these charities collected donations running into millions of pounds from the British public under the guise of humanitarian causes. Most prominent among these were relief efforts to aid victims of the Orissa cyclone and the Gujarat earthquake. We do not think it is a coincidence that the two Indian states where Hindutva networks, violence and hatred have grown phenomenally in recent years both had natural and human tragedies, followed by massive funding to Hindutva organisations from overseas, the report says. The document explains in detail how the UK based Sewa International sent £2 million raised for Gujarat earthquake relief to its Indian counterpart, Sewa Bharati. Part of the Sangh Parivar, Sewa Bharati has a well-documented agenda of expanding Hindutva networks in India. _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
RE: [Goanet]RE: bharatis
Gilbert, I think you are mistaken. Read the news again... The five suspects arrested were three Moroccan and two Indian nationals. Two other Spanish citizens of Indian descent were also being questioned. Best regards, Paulo. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gilbert menezes Sent: 21 March 2004 16:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]RE: bharatis They weren't bharatis, but Spaniards of Bharati origin--similar to you--foreign nationality of bharati origin. Poor guys, so many years in jail just for selling illegal SIM cards. ole! regards, Gilbert. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]RE: Church overTemple
Subject: Church over Temple Alfred de Tavares: Yes, many churches and chapels in Goa occupy erstwhile Hindu temples are built on the sites of those demolished. It was not a question of lack of real estate but rather of supremacy: Psycologically, nothing surmounts to a greater degree the paramountcy of the latest comer/invader than their God/gods lording it over those that the subjugated peoples deified. For a certainity, the Igreja da Nossa Senhora dos Milagres, Mapuça and the Igreja do Espirito Santo, Margao took over the existing temples. The bell tower of the Milagres proves that. In Loutulim, our ancestral Capela da N. S. dos Milagres, in Vanxem, is a converted temple. Mario Cabral e Sa, among others, will have many more examples. Gilbert Lawrence: You have certainly provided some specific names and details that leads me to believe you know what you are writing. But you also wrote very confidently and with certainity, that Goan men were raped en-mass by wine-drunk Bacchus and his many maidens when they invaded Goa from Greece. This was all pre-Alexander the Great. No such historical version exists of this account of your post/story. Neither do Goan men report of being raped by women. :=)) ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]RE: Church built on Temple?
Subject: RE: Church built on Temple? Santosh: Hey, I think Gilbert is on to something here. Perhaps, the Portuguese were the original inhabitants of Goa. What do we stupid Goans, except a privileged few, know any way? So those who claim that the Portuguese were invaders must provide facts to prove their claim. Of course, nobody expects a Goan to provide such facts. Gilbert responds: I don't want to take your glory. But am I mistaken? I thought Santosh started the annual Goan awards to those who expended their time, energy etc. to unearth Goan untruths, false beliefs etc. Of course I could give you all the synonyms for the word 'false' in the English lexicon. :=)) Whole of Goa congratulated you for your efforts to eradicate 'Bondol' an age-old disease that affects Goans. Hmm.. Hmm.. wonder where we got it from? Is this another thread of 'lagao bhathi'! OK, I get it! English-versed Goans on GoaNet DON'T suffer from this. Only those uneducated fisher-folks engage in bondol and exaggerations. :=)) Should we give an annual award to the person who started the biggest Goan Bondol of the year? In all seriousness it is irresponsible in the current sensitive political environment in India for anyone to make the above assertion without hard evidence. Gilbert. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]RE: Goa's Secret Unveiled
Subject: Goa's Secret Unveiled Goa's SECRET UNVEILED: THE GOAN INQUISTION (part 1) Period of official inquisition in Goa: 1560-1812. During this period there were in Goa: Several Muslim assaults and re-assaults. Numerous Maratha attacks. A few revolts by natives. Dutch blockade starting in 1603. British invasion 1797 and lasted for 16 years. Propagation of faith by the Catholic Church. Goals of Goa's 'religious inquisition': Encourage proper behavior and practice of accepted social norms. Deterrence over the military and civilian colonial establishment. Enforce proper practice of the Catholic rituals by the converted natives. There were no heretical ani blasphemy practices in Goa. Goals of Goa's 'Colonial Inquisition': Terrorize the locals and undertake a land-grab from Hindus. Eviction of Muslims after residing in Goa for 100 yrs. under Muslim rule. Military / colonial expansionism and address security concerns. Reduce security risks against foreign invasion from land and sea. Eliminate security risk from indigenous groups revolting colonialism. Demographics of GOA'S INQUISTION: In 1570 the population of Portuguese-Goa was 200,000 with 75% Christians. Total individuals brought to Inquisition justice 16,172 over 252 years. Average: 64 cases per year. Vast majority were civilian offenses. Most cases were for cultivating land that did not belong to the tiller. Most culprits were dismissed after a stern warning or flogging. While in custody they were held in dungeons and fed Canji / Pez. Detailed statistics of GOA'S INQUISTION: (part 2) to follow ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Church built on Temple?
In a message dated 3/21/2004 3:09:37 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Should we give an annual award to the person who started the biggest Goan Bondol of the year? No! President Pandurang has a better idea. He will give an award to the best Goan internet historian of the year. Only those who are good at copying from websites, junk emails and chain letters are qualified to receive this award. Those who have studied history in the classroom or read historical books and documents will be disqualified. Those who have written a book or an article on Goan history are eligible as long as all the material contained in it is copied from flashy websites, junk emails and chain letters, and also, as long as the source of the copied material is not cited or acknowledged. This is a great opportunity for all plagiarists to finally receive some recognition for their efforts. Please spread the word in all Goan forums, and to highly skilled plagiarists who are no longer subscribed to this mailing list. Cheers, Santosh ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
RE: [Goanet]Exhibition: Flowers of Goa
From: Radhakrishnan Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Exhibition: Flowers of Goa Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 10:39:00 +0530 Is Goanetter and lurkers' forum chief Flower2 also an exhibit? Cheers, RKN Thread softly there, young Nair ... in case, you have ogling in mind! A decorous ... plaintive suspiration ... eu ti amo...eu ti quero may just be acceptable, but pray no ogling at our fair Flower of Verna, lest she, like her acient namesake did poor Acteon, mete you an evil fate, perhaps metamorphose you into something the insects will happily prey upo. Alfred, forever the champion of Flowers in distres or to be sujected thereof. _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]BCCI AND CONGRESS
The recent report that London managers fraud costs BoI $82m may not be a simple case of fraud and could involve political pressure and if the past is any thing to go by, Congress could be the prime suspect. The notorious Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) finally owned by the ruler of Abu Dhabi paid bribes to the family of Indira Gandhi as per the records of the U.S. senate sub-committee investigating the bank. This was one of the reasons for closing the serious cases of murder, smuggling etc against many Dubai nationals like Lootah, Galadhari, and Al-Futtaim etc Then there is the stranger case of the late Agha Hassan Abedi, who first founded the Pakistani Bank BCCI and its involvement in drug money laundering and funding of the nuclear programme in Pakistan and its connection to Congress Party of India. . The Vatican Bank was active in Europe and America in drug money laundering, and BCCI had specialized in the Asian drug market. Abedi's reach extended to the U.S. also. He even had the former Secretary of Defense Clark Clifford as his lobbyist for a fee of nearly $100 million! This was exposed in U.S. Congressional hearings, and Clifford was disgraced. What has this got to do with the Gandhis of India? For a start Abedi happened to be a major donor to the Indira Gandhi Memorial Foundation, later controlled by Sonia. The first Indira Gandhi Peace Prize was awarded to Yasser Arafat, with money donated by Abedi! In addition, several members of the Gandhi trusts have close ties to Pakistan. A high official of the Nehru Museum and Library is a Pakistani who claims to be a Marxist. Sonia Gandhi's close associate and official spokesman Mani Shankar Aiyar has consistently taken pro-Pakistani positions on most issues - from the Jinnah House in Mumbai to Kashmir. In one of his columns, he went so far as to suggest that Kashmir could be handed over to Pakistan with the expectation that Pakistan would help India get oil from the Central Asian Republics! The Pakistani Archives, if opened some day like the Soviet Archives, should have many interesting secrets to reveal. Not only the Congress party collected bribe from Saddam Hussein in the form of oil, but is linked to KGB for which the case is in Indian courts and with CBI. Congress may be under the control of the Italian Mafia and this could be the reason for the death of so many promising Congress politicians on Sundays which is the preferred days by Christians. Imagine what will be the reaction of the India public if the Pak secret achieves are opened and if Congress is linked to ISI of Pakistan. Many Kerala Christians in Gulf who funds the Congress Party in Kerala are also running Pakistan schools and even work as the front man for the Pak drug money. One such Gulf NRI is Sunny Varkey who lives in Dubai and runs the Our own English schools and Pakistani schools in the gulf. On September 22, 2002 one of the two helicopters being used by Sunny Varkey in India while on a visit, crashed in a village near Lonavla in which one Jacob Chakoria GM of his establishment was killed. Officially the accident is due to bad weather, but it is rumored that Sunny Varkey who is an ISI assest and under RAW investigation, was the target of an assassination attempt. Then there is the case of the worlds biggest audio video piracy group known as Thomson Electronics in the Gulf run mainly by two Kerala Christians sponsor many Congress politicians like Ramesh Chennithala MP. Congress politician Muralidharan of Kerala was running Hawala business in Dubai. This list is endless. Because of these the BOI involvement may not be a simple case of a fraud by a manager, but it may involve some political involvement. -- . London managers fraud costs BoI $82m http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=29541 GEORGE MATHEW MUMBAI, MARCH 20: 2004 In a development that could wipe out its entire third-quarter profits and more, the Bank of India has been ordered by a London judge to pay $82 million (around Rs 370 crore) for knowingly engaging in fraudulent transactions with the long-sunk Bank Credit and Commerce International (BCCI). The same judge who, in December, had cleared the London branch of the State Bank of India (SBI) of any of any wrongdoing, came down hard on BoI. He said the bank could not sidestep responsibility for the actions of its London manager. Refusing to accept the verdict, however, the chairman of BoI, M Venugopalan, told The Indian Express: We have decided to challenge the ruling of the London High Court in a higher court. Our lawyers will study the verdict in detail. In awarding damages of $43.2 million and accumulated interest of $39 million to BCCIs liquidators Deloitte and Touche, Judge Nicholas Patten outlined the scheme that was hatched to defraud the depositors. BCCI, which closed down in 1991 burning nearly a million of its customers placed six short-term deposits
[Goanet]Judge slams Bank of India 'ineptitude'
Many people, including a large number of Goenkars in the mid East, lost a lot of money with the collapse of BCCI. Creditors who last £16bn in the collapse of Bank of Credit and Commerce International 13 years ago drew a little blood in the High Court. Judge Nicholas Patten slammed Bank of India for 'ineptitude' for its part in the scandal and ordered it to pay £45m compensation. He ruled that its London manager had known BCCI's deposits were being used to defraud creditors and said India's sixth biggest bank had failed to carry out proper checks. Gabe saw this story on BBC News Online and thought you should see it. ** Bank of India faces BCCI payout ** Bank of India is ordered to pay $82m in compensation over transactions made in relation to the collapsed bank BCCI. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/2/hi/business/3551049.stm ** BBC Daily E-mail ** Choose the news and sport headlines you want - when you want them, all in one daily e-mail http://www.bbc.co.uk/dailyemail/ Cheers, Gabe Menezes. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]RE: bharatis
They weren't bharatis, but Spaniards of Bharati origin--similar to you--foreign nationality of bharati origin. Poor guys, so many years in jail just for selling illegal SIM cards. ole! regards, Gilbert. --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 04:23:53 + (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Bernado=20Colaco?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Bharati malabarism aids Madrid bombing? Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is being reported that the two bharatis arrested in the Madrid bombing were selling illegal SIM cards, and these were used in the terrible Madrid bombing that caused hundred of deaths. I wonder if Senhor Basilio has any more information in regard to this news? B. Colaco ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html _ Take a loan. Win great prizes! Handsome prizes to be won! Take a loan win TV, Fridge many more prizes ! http://go.msnserver.com/IN/44044.asp ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]CURTORCARES EASTER NITE
CURTORCARES EASTER NITE. One of the Goan organizations in Kuwait Curtorcares United which is become so popular in the community because of its charismatic and social worker president Mr. Salvador Dias will organize Easter Nite on 29th of April 2004. The Easter Nite will be held in Kuwait City at Hotel Faker Al Deen Palace starting at 8.30 p.m. onwards. To keep the atmosphere in the Majestic Ball Room lively and enjoyable popular local band Stepping Stones will provide the musical score. To give extra punch for the entire function, young Goan girl Miss Thracha DMello from Curtorim Goa and currently residing in Dubai will especially fly to Kuwait to compeer the proceedings of this Easter Nite. Miss Thracha is not a stranger to Kuwait Goans since she already compeered the proceedings of the One Day soccer festival held recently at Sour Grounds by Curtorcares United. During that time she already captured the hearts of the people and gained a very good impression from the people. According to available information, Miss Thracha is popular in UAE for her skill and smartness in compeering the Ball Room Functions and I am sure she will create a lasting impact of her skill in Kuwait during the Easter Nite organized by her villagers in Kuwait on 29th of next month. The highlight of the Nite will be the beauty pageant contest for the selection of Easter Queen. Fabulous and attractive prizes will be presented to the winners and runners-up in different categories, of course first time in Kuwait. For further details kindly contact on tel. nos. 9763922 5632853 6091722 7808473 5663529 5616469. A. Veronica Fernandes, Kuwait. _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]RE: Church built on Temple?
Santosh: Hey, I think Gilbert is on to something here. Perhaps, the Portuguese were the original inhabitants of Goa. What do we stupid Goans, except a privileged few, know any way? So those who claim that the Portuguese were invaders must provide facts to prove their claim. Of course, nobody expects a Goan to provide such facts. Gilbert responds: I don't want to take your glory. But am I mistaken? I thought Santosh started the annual Goan awards to those who expended their time, energy etc. to unearth Goan untruths, false beliefs etc. Of course I could give you all the synonyms for the word 'false' in the English lexicon. :=)) Whole of Goa congratulated you for your efforts to eradicate 'Bondol' an age-old disease that affects Goans. Hmm.. Hmm.. wonder where we got it from? Is this another thread of 'lagao bhathi'! OK, I get it! English-versed Goans on GoaNet DON'T suffer from this. Only those uneducated fisher-folks engage in bondol and exaggerations. :=)) Should we give an annual award to the person who started the biggest Goan Bondol of the year? In all seriousness it is irresponsible in the current sensitive political environment in India for anyone to make the above assertion without hard evidence. Gilbert. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Goa's Secret Unveiled
Goa's SECRET UNVEILED: THE GOAN INQUISTION (part 1) Period of official inquisition in Goa: 1560-1812. During this period there were in Goa: Several Muslim assaults and re-assaults. Numerous Maratha attacks. A few revolts by natives. Dutch blockade starting in 1603. British invasion 1797 and lasted for 16 years. Propagation of faith by the Catholic Church. Goals of Goa's 'religious inquisition': Encourage proper behavior and practice of accepted social norms. Deterrence over the military and civilian colonial establishment. Enforce proper practice of the Catholic rituals by the converted natives. There were no heretical ani blasphemy practices in Goa. Goals of Goa's 'Colonial Inquisition': Terrorize the locals and undertake a land-grab from Hindus. Eviction of Muslims after residing in Goa for 100 yrs. under Muslim rule. Military / colonial expansionism and address security concerns. Reduce security risks against foreign invasion from land and sea. Eliminate security risk from indigenous groups revolting colonialism. Demographics of GOA'S INQUISTION: In 1570 the population of Portuguese-Goa was 200,000 with 75% Christians. Total individuals brought to Inquisition justice 16,172 over 252 years. Average: 64 cases per year. Vast majority were civilian offenses. Most cases were for cultivating land that did not belong to the tillers. Most culprits were dismissed after a stern warning or flogging. While in custody they were held in dungeons and fed Canji / Pez. Detailed statistics of GOA'S INQUISTION: (part 2) to follow ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]TidBits - Mhapsa Fest is still on.
TidBits - Mhapsa Fest is still on. Mhapsa Fest has long since ended but the reverberations on account of which are still being felt. Per se, the fest was a very good idea. The controversy started when I voiced my displeasure of the fest being called the Mhapsa Fest. According to me, Mhapsa was definitely Marathi sounding since the name of this town has always been spelled as Mapusa. Miguel Braganza, who was one of the main organizers of the Fest took offence to my saying what I had said and there was a lot bile flowing on the net on account of that for a while before all became quiet and normal. I happened to see Mhapsa Fest surfacing once again through the Herald's Reader Speak captioned MORE ON THE RECENT MHAPSA FEST (Herald 4 March, 2004), by a senior citizen of ward 5 of Mapusa. Glad to note that I was not the only one to object to 'Mhapsa' the incident was forgotten once read. However, I was not surprised to see Miguel, at his best, retaliating the above through the Reader Speak of March 11, 2004 captioned JUST CRITICISM? DO SOMETHING BETTER On going through the piece, I felt a bit uneasy. There was something in this piece which seem to be not just right. Therefore, I looked up March 4 paper and went through the senior citizen's piece again. And there it was. The senior citizen had never mentioned anything about drug addicts. But Miguel had specifically castigated the senior citizen over drug addicts, Quote -Let him do his Lenten repentance or go searching for the drug addicts in the park with a lantern- Unquote. I generally took it as Miguel's imaginations running wild and accusing someone for things he has not said . And I promptly forgot all about the whole thing. Until yesterday, when I attended a meeting of a group of Mapsekars of which I am also a member. And since I had met Miguel once at such a meeting, I casually mentioned about the above letters I had read in Herald . To my surprise, the senior citizen who had written the letter to Herald actually was present for the meeting. And he went one step ahead and showed me the letter that he had posted to the Herald. And voila, the drug addicts did figure in his letter. I asked the senior citizen Did you also post this letter to Miguel Braganza?. No he said. Then how come he writes about the drug addicts when nothing is mentioned of it in the Herald's print version? I asked. He just shrugged and said Maybe Miguel got to read my letter to Herald through his good offices with the Herald's Staff To that I said It is highly unethical of Herald, or even of Miguel for that matter, to do that, even through friendly relations. And it amounts to the abuse of such relations. Cheers Floriano Lobo goasuraj ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]World Goa Day - 2004
Dear all, This year World Goa Day (www.goaday.com) is being celebrated Aug 21, 22 or at times convenient to Goan organizations based on their calendars. This year's main theme is JOBS FOR GOANS - not just in Goa but around the world. One of the most significant issues facing the world-wide Goan community is jobs and our economic future. There are other important issues too. However, we should focus on this theme during the WORLD GOA DAY celebrations. In the past, Rene and I have been pleased with the events, but sometimes they did not have a serious, meaningful element. This year's celebrations on Aug 21, 22, can be left to each individual organization. However, the celebrations should include the theme: Jobs for Goans. We would recommend that whatever the celebration, there should be time set aside called JOBS AND CAREERS. 1. Invite speakers from various business organizations. 2. Invite employers to discuss their companies, especially Goan employers. 3. Invite Goans seeking jobs to come to the event and network. 4. Provide career advice. The future success of Goans is based on our economic well-being. We have many Goan unemployed in Goa. In addition, Goans around the world do not know necessarily know the various opportunities available to them and do not necessarily seek the top jobs or the highest positions. They need encouragement, support and information. They need to see and hear other successful Goans. In addition to the JOBS FOR GOANS theme, if you have time consider adding the following to the agenda: 1. FINANCIAL LITERACY. Invite money management speakers. The can talk about investing, retirement planning, insurance, children savings accounts, elder care management, etc. There is a critical financial literacy gap in the Goan community which needs to be addressed. 2. POLITICAL INVOLMENT. Invite political activists, even if you disagree with their views. Have them discuss the political process locally and how one can be involved. Ultimately, without being involved in the political process, we will continue to be marginalized and sidelined while others dictate our future and make the rules we live under. No point in complaining if we do not become active politically. Through political power, most of our other goals can be achieved. 3. HEALTH FAIR. Invite doctors/nurses and have them speak about prevention and cures of common diseases and ailments. Diabetes, heart disease, blood pressure, cancers, children heath issues, senior citizen issues, etc. There are a number of topics which can be covered. Let us move forward together in a meaningful, memorable manner. Regards, George Pinto Rene Baretto www.goaday.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Temple Tantrums, Pagoda ani K4 (konne konnank kitem kellem)
Temple Tantrums, Pagoda ani K4 (konne konnank kitem kellem) From: Lino Leitao [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Mar 20, 2004 11:27 pm Subject: Fw: [The Goan Forum d-list] Nossa Senhora Da Piedade - Divar Hindus, my ancestors, had temples in the shape of pagodas in Goa, and I think some are still there in that shape in Goa. But without proper research, one cannot be accurate about that, can we? Those who are passionate about this should take sabatical and do some research on this subject and educate us. Dear all I have been following this Temple Tantrum for some time. It is my opinion that the skepticism of Gilbert and the bemusement of Santosh - both are well placed. Some thoughts - random order 1. What is the use of ANY religion if its fanatical followers have NO concept of Peace, Understanding, Compassion and Caring for the downtrodden.? 2. Lino's Hindu ancestors may have had their temples restructured into Catholic churches, but what about (say) MY Buddhist ancestors whose Pagodas and Stupas were restructured into Hindu temples? And where on earth are the Goan Buddhist sites? ( please see Appendix 2 3 below) 3. Being an absolute rank amateur armchair researchist myself, I hope (if when I grow up) to be like the REAL researchers who quote SELECTIVELY from a document here and a document there and proclaim ...EUREKA! .I is de beshtest! I invite those BESHTEST researchers to read Appendix 1 - and DE DOCUMENTES ! BTW: Has anyone found the answer YET as to WHY the RULING NAIRS of Kerala had / condoned / supported the law which expected Lower Caste women to expose their BOSOMS to these guys? Can you imagine the gall of these guys to lecture others about the Empire striking Back jose Me No likes No chaddiwala(i) nor topiwalla(i) - They all is Corrupt to the core. Tumeric or no tumeric = Appendix 1 - FAKE DOCUMENTS http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3549679.stm MP George Galloway has accepted damages and a public apology over an American newspaper article = Appendix 2 - TEMPLE KEMPLE http://www.colaco.net/3/religionindianpoliticians.htm Pravin Sabnis May 27, 2002 They dig up graveyards of history to show how temples were demolished to make way for mosques. If they dig further, they would find scores of Stupas being demolished to build temples. = Appendix 3 - TIME for the Chaddiwallas to take note Evidence of early Buddhist influence in Goa * the first image of Buddha - excavation Henry Heras SJ at Mushira Waddo in Colvale in the 1930 - image of Buddha in Dhyanamudra is dated 4th century AD * the second image of Buddha - bronze - found in the house of Mhamai Kamat of Panaji - dated to 7th century AD * the third image of Buddha - in Rivona, Sanguem - belongs to 7th century AD * two rock cuts caves in Lamgao near Bicholim - The name of the village suggestive of being of Buddhist origin and it essentially means abode of the Lamas, the Buddhist monks of Tibet. * the cave complex at Arvalem now known as the Pandava Caves was also of Buddhist origin, later MODIFIED into a Hindu shrine. === Appendix 4 (full script of above) http://goacentral.com/Goamonuments/early_buddhist_and_jain_influence_in_goa.htm The discovery of the first image of Buddha. The late Fr. Henry Heras, then the principal of St. Xaviers College, Bombay conducted a small excavation at Mushira Waddo in Colvale in the 1930. During the excavation, he discovered an image of Buddha. This image is now exhibited in the Fr. Heras Institute, located in St. Xaviers college, Bombay. The image of Buddha in Dhyanamudra is dated 4th century AD. It is postulated that the Buddhist monastery at Mushira Waddo might have been established by the feudatory rules of Goa, i.e. the Bhojas of Chandrapur. However, no traces of the monastery are found at Mushira Waddo today. The discovery of the second image of Buddha The second image is the head of Buddha in bronze was found in the house of Mhamai Kamat of Panaji and presently exhibited in the State Museum of Goa. It is a beautiful piece of bronze of a very small size (about 3cm.x2cm,). This head of Buddha is dated to 7th century AD. The discovery of the third image of Buddha This image was discovered in Rivona, Sanguem taluka, which is about 70 Kms from Panaji. This image is in Bhumi Sparsha Mudra and is headless. The height of the image up to shoulders is 90cms and the breadth of Vajrasana is 115cms. The huge rectangular pedestal of which this above image was placed in the monastery was also found. The two other small pedestals on which perhaps Bodhisattva images were placed were also found. However, Bodhisattva images were not found. The image of Buddha from Rivona belongs to 7th century AD. This image of Buddha was found lying in a topsy-turvy fashion in the midst of a field
[Goanet]Archbishop installed on Gudi Padwa.
It was a wonderful experience being at the Se Cathedral, Velha Goa/Old Goa, for the installation of Filipe Neri Antonio Sebastiao do Rosario Ferrao as the fulfledged Archbishop of Goa and Daman[ That he was the titular Bishop of some obscure place in Mauritania till date was news to me!]. The ceremony was simple and edifying, the choir was not overpowering, there were no wailing children or ushers strutting about[ now a days one sees them strutting even in the cemetary]. It was a solemn, religious affair. Just as one would like it to be. Technology was put to use. Live video coverage with LCD projection on the 'big screens' placed at vantage points ensure that each one could 'see' what was happening at the alter and enjoy the choir without craning one's neck. The digital cameras will ensure that the pictures in tomorrow's paper will be of a good resolution. For those on the net, there must be video footage at www.goacom.com Joel D'Souza was very much there. Snacks and tetrapacks of mango juice were served to the congregation after the mass in a dignified manner. The packaging material was collected back with equal grace. Most of the people had travelled from their homes early in the morning to be at the Cathedral by 09.00 A.M. The snacks and juice were indeed a relief. It was very thoughtful of the organizers. A gift from the parishioners of Bambolim, the home parish of the outgoing Bishop, I am told. Tara Narayan was there; but there was very little to write a food column in the Goan Observer..even though Shri Manohar Parrikar was there ,too. Lots of Magenta colour with the Papal Nuncio,two Cardinals of Goan origin, the President and member Bishops of the Western Region Bishops'Council,Bishops of Goan origin and the two Archbishops of the day amidst the multitude of white cassocks and clothes of every hue..including a lot of black suits on a hot summer day. Did not see Wendel or Savio Jon around, though. Above all, the day belonged to the humility of Fr.Filipe Neri and the love of God who sent His only son to this Earth to serve mankind. Fr.Filipe Neri has his role model in Jesus Christ. He was the best person that lived on this Earth. No one can be better. For all His good work, He was crucified. No worse fate can await us. We must do the best we can, as long as we live. 'And they will know that we are Christians by our LOVE'...for it was Love that made us and it was love that saved us. Love is not our exclusive right; it must include us just the same. warm regards, Miguel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.543 / Virus Database: 337 - Release Date: 11/21/2003 ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]A State-wise Analysis of BJP-NDA's Election Prospects
Media Favours BJP: Hype And Reality Harkishan Singh Surjeet THESE days the media are at their game again --- the game of projecting as if the BJP led NDA is sure to come back to power. One of the papers has even dubbed the coming Lok Sabha polls as unnecessary, on the presumption that their outcome is already known to one and all. But, as Yogendra Yadav puts it, If the media were to decide elections, the general elections to the 14th Lok Sabha would be a pointless exercise (The Hindu, March 15). He then adds that he is not convinced of this established wisdom and that years of watching elections has convinced me of the value of political commonsense and has taught me to disregard hype. RECALLING A BIT OF HISTORY IN fact, the role of a sizeable chunk of the media consists in generating precisely such hype at this stage when the nation is to go through the 14th general elections. Yet this is not something new. For the last several years, what we have been witnessing is that come an election and the media pundits go wholehog to make the people believe that the BJP is going to win the elections hands down. This is precisely what they did in 1991 and 1996, and in some later elections. Moreover, in 1998, despite all their projections of a landslide for the BJP, the latter could form a government only after hurriedly cobbling a motley post-poll alliance. Then, in 1999, the BJP could not increase a single seat in Lok Sabha, compared to 1998, though its allies did register sizeable gains. We may even recall here a bit of history --- that whatever seats the BJP got in 1996 and 1998 was, to a considerable extent, because of the sense of revulsion the people had developed for the Congress regime of 1991-96 and then for the meanest type of Congress politics during 1996-98. So much so that the party first forced the United Front government to change its leader and then brought the UF government altogether down for the narrowest kind of considerations. In contrast, in 1999, the BJP had no such negative factor to exploit and no positive achievement of its government to bank upon. Further, the Kargil episode also enabled it to exploit the popular sentiment though, ironically, the BJP led government's own gross negligence was itself responsible for the terrorist incursions into the area. The inference is obvious. If only the BJP were not in alliance with about two dozen parties and if only the Kargil episode had not taken place, the party would probably have suffered in 1999 itself. CLASS INTEREST AT STAKE BUT it is precisely these kinds of considerations that our media pundits very conveniently ignore. It is therefore no wonder that, one after another, most of their forecasts have miserably failed to materialise in the last one decade or more. This is not to deny that a few of their pre-poll surveys or exit surveys have been close to the mark; yet one cannot say that this was altogether devoid of an element of fluke. Yet, one point must not be overlooked. If some people are fond of saying that people's memory is short, they must also add that the memory of many of our media pundits is no less short. However, there is a crucial difference here. If people's memory is short because of their day-to-day preoccupation with the struggle for life, the memory of media pundits is short because of their own choice. To forget how their past predictions had miserably failed is, to put it plainly, necessary to serve the vested interest of those who pay them hefty salaries and perks. The point is obvious. A very, very large chunk of the Indian big bourgeoisie and also of foreign multinationals have unmistakably indicated that the BJP or the BJP led NDA is the safest bet in so far as their class interests are concerned. Going by a recent newspaper report (Hindustan Times, March 5), while the Congress has hired only 4 helicopters for election campaigning, the BJP has hired as many as 20. This only gives a boost to what the people widely believe --- that the BJP has been the largest beneficiary of the Indian as wall as foreign bourgeoisie's largesse. But these sections of bourgeoisie also know that if only the BJP comes back to power, they would be able to recover may times over what they have donated. Economists like Jean Dreze and others have already shown that before the Vajpayee government recommended the Lok Sabha's dissolution, it gave hefty concessions to the rich while claiming to give relief (widely called sops) to other segments of the population. In such a situation, one can well guess to what extent the BJP would go to repay its real, behind-the-scene benefactors. POLITICAL RACECOURSE THE sale of public sector concerns to private parties at dirt-cheap prices is only one case in point, among many, through here too examples like the BALCO and Centaur Hotel stand testimony to their shameless perfidies. Nay, one of their ministers was so arrogant
Re: [Goanet]Re. Tobacco Co. bravery awards Goa CM refuses Governor agrees
Dear Bond, Wud you unsuspect a viper even if you thought it was nice, pleasant and friendly for a change? And I do not mean the Viper of Taleigao. I mean, a real, live viper, the crawly thing. Likewise, do not believe what you read in the newspapers. What is printed there is for the consumption of unsuspecting, gullible guys like you and me. RSS will never change its stripes. You mean to say that the CM does not agree with the Guvnor? The Cigarette Czar must have contributed a pretty packet to the BJP's election fund. And if the CM didn't make an outwardly show of refusal, then it would be a stink. Therefore to save their own noses, they have planned this well. If I am right, you will not hear of this fallout ever again. Today, the CM was in attendance of the installation of the new Archbishop of Goa, Daman and its territories. Right on the Se's alter to wish him with a bouquet? Why??? For more gullible catholics to join BJP's minority cell. IT'S A WHOLE BALL GAME. DO NOT TRUST THESE GUYS. THEY ARE CALCULATING EVIL AT THE CORE. And if Dr. Willie gets to contest in the North on the NCP ticket, then take it that it is to favour the BJP's Sripad Naik, and nothing else. The BJP will only be running to the Parliament from Goa, laughing. Floriano Lobo goasuraj - Original Message - From: sarabond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 7:31 AM Subject: [Goanet]Re. Tobacco Co. bravery awards Goa CM refuses Governor agrees Dr. Shekhar Salkar of the NOTE is doing a wonderful job !! Alas ! He is a BJP man. He should work in the same direction to see that no religion is mixed with Politics. 'Cos that too is bad for the health of a Progressive Nation. - Alfonso Bond Braganza. ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Eu te amo muito, muito - ashe nai re tem
It will be next to impossible to get the right accent due to your tongue twisting native language. However just to get somewhere near, try blowing air with your tongue protruding out.might help. Anyway, 'Eu te amo muitissimo . eode po' Vasu (text copied) I've to master the right accent and pronunciation now, so that it won't sound like I kissed your grandpa! Eu te amo muito muito. Cheers, ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Hearty congratulation
Wishing the couple many more years of togetherness and may each moment prove them to be fonder. May blessing from heaven above be casted upon you two for your immense contribution towards Goanet. Vasu (copied text) We wish ARIOSTO VIVIAN COELHO God's choicest blessings while they celebrate their 10th Anniversary of their Marriage at San Bruno in California today. ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]INTRODUCE ENGLISH FROM STANDARD I
My solemn support to GPC Education Cell. Finally we are seeing some light to improve our skills in English. Exclusion of English language in primary education was an impediment to our little ones and would trigger hindrance of socialising with English or International Counterparts. Likewise other private schools (those affiliated to other Education boards other than GU) were harvesting on such opportunity. Goans were the one of the lot that benefits from this 'idiom'. Russia, Poland and other non english speaking natives are including 'How to Speak English' in your leisure itinary. Vasu (copied text) INTRODUCE ENGLISH FROM STANDARD I: The Goa Pradesh Congress Education Cell has suggested that English subject be introduced from standard I onwards and that Goa State Council for Education, Research and Training be granted total autonomy. (GT) ___ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Re: Church built on Temple?
Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Machem, please post the inquisition statistics from his book. Not his case selections. This will resolve soglem confusaum. Dev Borem korum. My friend Pandurang has sent a man to Banastari to see if he can get this book at the Friday ferri. Pandurang says it might come for this ferri or that ferri. If he can get it for a good price or force the seller to throw it for free on top of sooke baangde then I will send you the statistics. If not we will conclude either that there was no inquisition or that it was nothing but grabbing of land or punishment of criminals. Cheers, Santosh ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP (THOUGHT FOR TODAY)!
Okosmat khuimchoi munis poixe zoddunk zannam, punn kruttan eklo passun nokllo te koxe moddunk zai (Almost any man knows how to earn money, but not one in a million knows how to spend it) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Biscuit laced with drugs on Konkan Railway
-- Documented by Goa Desc Resource Centre Ph:2252660 Website: www.goadesc.org Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press Clippings on the web: http://www.goadesc.org/mem/ -- Contractor falls for biscuit trick -- A Vasai-based contractor, Achinta Kumar Das (46) travelling on a Konkan Railway train has realised how bitter a biscuit could taste if accepted from strangers. Das, who has been admitted to Hospicio hospital here on Wednesday evening after three young lads offered a biscuit laced with drugs, has been robbed of Rs 55,000.Margao PSI, Suraj Halarnkar informed that Das had boarded the Mandovi Express at Panvel enroute to Kaiga in Karwar where he has bagged some contracts.When the train reached Karmali railway station at around 6.30 on Wednesday evening, around three youngsters all aged between 22 to 26 years boarded the train. The trio are believed to have developed friendship with the contractor, wherein Das offered them tea. And, the youngsters accepted the offer, but in return gave him a biscuit which made him feel giddy before he fell in an unconscious state.Police said the trio then decamped with cash of Rs 55,000 which Das had stacked in his pocket by cutting it open. He was carrying the amount on his person to pay the labourers employed by him at Kaiga, the police added. Police has registered a case against unknown persons under sections 380 and 328 of the IPC. Further investigations are in progress. - HERALD 19/3/04 page 1 - === GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE Documentation + Education + Solidarity 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.goadesc.org -- Working On Issues Of Development Democracy === ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##