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Mario Goveia wrote:
Is there any way to document what an individual
unorganized atheist REALLY believes?
Yes. Books, articles and internet forums are good ways
to document what individual unorganized theists and
atheists believe.
The claim above that moral teachings in religious
texts are
Most people know that mere assertions can never trump
documented facts. That many moral teachings in
religious texts are now regarded as immoral is a
well-known fact. A rock solid moral compass cannot
have such gaping immoral holes in it.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As usual, Gilbert misrepresents my position and my
answer to his question. He has no substantive or
meaningful argument, and no rational answer to his own
poorly framed question - What's the Purpose to life?;
and What happens after death.
Moreover, his post has no connection with what I
stated
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--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Having answered your questions, perhaps you can do
some answering of your own.
Gilbert,
My questions were quite simple and straightforward.
Unfortunately, you did not give me clear and specific
answers to them.
Regarding your questions here are
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The church has committed blunders over the 2006
years of existence. Even the Church admits it. So
again where is the beef?
But so has every branch of science, medicine, law,
history, anthropology, politics, etc..
Do you not go to a doctor because medicine 3500
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The quote I posted by John Mill was copied verbatim
from Wikipedia. If it is a distortion Santosh
should correct the Wikipedia record.
Wikipedia has already provided a correct quote. Here
is the link to it:
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In conclusion, I ask you if any liberal American
Democrat could honestly say as John Mill did, War is
an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The
decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic
feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is
Nasci,
Please don't misrepresent my posts in this thread. You
are free to believe whatever you want to believe, and
to express yourself. But please air your views without
involving me. I have no interest in knowing why you
consider yourself enlightened, multicultural,
superior, special,
Incredible! A sentence meant to evoke a response did.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't hold your breath. Coherent responses are only
reserved for coherent opinions.
Mario.
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This sentence is meant to evoke
--- Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've often wondered whether I should dedicatedly
further my own point of view in a debate because I
feel it is the right view or whether I should be
capable of holding two opposing points of view in my
mind and appreciating both of them.
I
is meant for.
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
One can always detect interesting prejudices and
double standards in sundry exchanges on the
internet.
Cheers,
Santosh
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One can always detect interesting prejudices and
double standards in sundry exchanges on the internet.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin,
I know you are a staunch atheist evangelist, but can
you expand on your question or do you think snide
sarcasm is a
--- Elisabeth Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Mario done!
I'll buy you a glass of feni at Georgie's bar if
you promise to buy me a kilo of dukra mass at the
tinto.:)
Georgie's Uraq bar is illegal.
Cheers,
Santosh
P.S. There is a problem with some keys on my keyboard.
--- Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Please make up your mind, oh learned savant: Is the
bright Prajal a lad or a lass
Chacha Alfred
Masculine issue, Dear Venerable Alfredchacha.
Cheers,
Santosh
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--- sonia gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My question is how do we stop this vandalism which
goes by the name of modernisation. It really broke
my heart to see those altars torn down, shiny tiles
instead of wood and pieces of altars sold,together
with Statues, chalices, vestements. Frankly I
--- sonia gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Incidentally are you Professor Sakhardande's
daughter ?
I don't know if Prajal reads posts on Goanet regularly
or not. But Prajal is one of Professor Sakhardande's
brilliant sons. He is also a professor in his own
right.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- Francis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Disclaimer:'Dear Aunty' regrets being unable to
reply to any personal e-mails. Please post all
enquiries directly online.:-))
Dear Aunty,
Uncle is behaving badly only from 2 years ago, just
before the time of the election. He is always on the
Nasci,
There was nothing subtle in my statement that,
according to secularism as enshrined in the Indian
constitution, all religions, as well as of the absence
of religion, are equal in all respects. What you are
talking about is some kind of religious caste/class
system where you hold your own
--- Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What Santosh is trying to pin on me appears to be
what my forwarding same to some Goan Association
members much later since I wanted them to know how
the Association was railroaded and installed an
ex-priest (who colluded in the fraudulent election)
for
Posting abusive personal attacks against private
individuals in a public forum while hiding behind
false identities is a most despicable practice. This
practice can only be curbed by exposing the
perpetrators. The Internet Protocol address
information in the headers of most such posts that are
have never defended Hindu beliefs. I have no
reason to do that.
Cheers,
Santosh
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The word secularism has many meanings, all of which
are good. In Indian and British English this word is
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--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW, I have no problem with atheism or humanism,
only with aggressive evangelical atheists and
humanists.
Cornel,
Do you think one can justify ideological aggression
directed selectively against atheistic and humanistic
evangelism, and not against
--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It doesn't matter whether I am reliable or not, since
I am not accusing someone of masquerading as someone
else--a rather serious allegation.
Nonsense. It absolutely matters whether you are
reliable or not. You are accusing me of being
unreliable, and
Frederick,
Unfortunately, I am not a silent netter. But allow me
to reiterate what I have said before. Please enforce
Goanet rules. This is a moderated list. Please name
the people who resort to repeated name-calling and
personal abuse, and kick them out after an appropriate
number of private and
--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. How reliable is proof when the only person
offering such proof has been known to modify quotes
(in one instance actually inserting a word into quoted
text) before posting them in a public forum?
Who is this person? What quoted text and insertion
--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I fully support the separation of school and
state. You seem to implicitly convey that the
government deserves the role of education provider, I
do not see it as its mandate. It does a fair enough
job in the USA, but you can't say the same about the
--- Chris Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So the matter of trust and veracity remains in
question; I have also been falsely accused in this
forum and another by an ostensible Hindu, as being
the author of that report -- which incidentally, is
quite innocuous although this person who uses the
--- Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I urge you reconsider your aim, to proceed, to seek
some sort of redress.
I believe that it will be an unnecessary waste of
your money. The person/s involved could plead
insanity (very likely).
Hi Gabe,
Thanks for your advice. As you know very
--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for your feedback. From your response and
that of others who e-mailed me off-list, the very
idea of homeschooling in India seems quite different
from what it is in the USA.
India is indeed fortunate not to have an ideologically
driven
--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On a related note, one lawsuit-happy Goanetter has
threatened legal action against a poster on this list
for what he deemed verbal abuse. In fact, he
indicated he was doing it on behalf of verbally
wounded Goanetters (whether it was with their
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Hi Jerry,
Thanks for your politeness. Your post is a refreshing
reminder of Goanet of yesteryears when disagreements
were confined to the matter being discussed. My brief
responses to your questions and points are
interspersed below.
--- Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As you mentioned
--- Jerry Fernandes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any attempt to arrive at an idea of right and
wrong independent of an outside or divine source is
destined to collapse upon itself. Moral atheists do
nothing but borrow wholesale from the codes of those
they look down on and have not even the courtesy
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/2006-January/037094.html
I thank the illustrious Goan Victorbab Rangel-Ribeiro
for giving me the opportunity to demonstrate the truth
of my assertion.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have no doubt that Santosh, as he reported, may
have received a fatwa from some Goan ayatollah.
Gilbert, are there ayatollahs in Saudi Arabia?
Cheers,
Santosh
--- Victor Rangel-Ribeiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
If anyone out there can find the rock I am supposed
to have crawled under, please return it to me. Many
thanks!
Hi Victorbab,
Battling between a rock and a hard place is exactly
how I feel. Perhaps, you did not mean this, but the
rock you
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Santosh Helekar has a well earned reputation of
truncating people's comments in order to change
their meaning. I think that qualifies as being
dishonest.
The above poster has again started spreading lies
about me in this public forum. If he
Peter wrote:
The topic was homeschooling. Please don't try to drag
me into a discussion on unrelated topics.
Peter,
If you have anything substantive to say about
homeschooling or some of the specific reasons 72% of
the homeschoolers in the U.S. are homeschooled, then
please let me know.
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
P.S. This post will elicit at least two responses
from anyone, consisting mostly of several
iterations of previously repeated statements.
I am sorry I forgot to add that the response(s) from
anyone would also consist as usual of blatant lying
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the wording of the message really constitutes a
death threat this would be a reprehensible and
serious matter, demanding some action against the
threatener.
The angles measured by his moral compass might seem a
little too obtuse, but I think this
--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't want to waste your time with personal trivia,
especially since your valuable work is subsidized by
the American taxpayer.
Ah, the taxpayer card! Isn't it always better to waste
time on partisan political trivia rather than on
personal trivia
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have repeatedly said that these can be better or
not than those provided by organized religions.
Excellent! Anyone has finally conceded that the
moral compasses of disorganized religions can be
better than those of organized ones. So I have nothing
I received my first death threat, presumably, for
something I posted on Goanet. Some guy warned me to
get ready to meet my Creator. He said further that
today is the only time I have to reflect on my life,
that I may never get another chance, and that I should
think and be prepared.
So I went to
--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm afraid you've made a leap of logic here, so
before we make any assumptions, please help us
understand what you mean.
Peter,
First, some questions for you.
Are you sure you have the time to engage in
discussions in Goan forums? Don't you have
Mario Goveia wrote:
If one does not belong to an organized religion,
one's moral compass is whatever one decides it to be.
It may be as good as taught by an organized
religion, or it may not be.
It is quite amusing to witness this twisting and
turning to maintain that the morality of
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't even know if someone has asked for permission
and been rejected, as you have slyly insinuated
without providing us with any evidence.
Very good! Finally, we have an admission that anyone
has not provided any evidence on SFX in this forum.
--- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...I'm keen to know if it is catching on in
Goa and other parts of India. Thanks in advance for
your feedback...
Why would anyone want to home-school their children in
Goa or India?
Indians have no issues with evolutionary biology,
genetics
--- Gabriel de Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Sorry Dr. Helekar, but life for the atheists, it
appears to me, from reading the above, is pathetic -
just a piece of flesh, meant only for procreation
to pass on the genes, nil else. A sure recipe for
suicide should one be unable to
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe Santosh, who has not examined St. FX's
remains, yet continues his cynical insinuations that
the remains were preserved in some artificial manner,
can show us some evidence that someone has asked for
permission to examine St. FX's remains and is
Don't be alarmed, but the fact is you are getting old.
You are hurtling towards the end of your life. At that
point the show is over. The lights are out. The
darkness is out. Don't expect any kind of an
afterlife, a rebirth or a reincarnation. You won't be
a ghost that would haunt anyone. You
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Moral tenets are moral compasses. Organized
religions
like Buddhism and Jainism, which you claim are
atheist, have religious tenets, which are the same as
moral compasses FYI. Disorganized atheists have
whatever may be convenient at any given time.
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When you have some facts at your disposal re. St. FX,
rather than cynical, sarcastic and after-the-fact
speculation, I'm sure we'll all be glad to hear of
these.
That anyone should be hired as a Forensic
Pathologist is not speculation. Anyone deserves
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The most noticeable feature of a mummified corpse is
that it is tightly wrapped from head to foot.
Boy, anyone is right! Besides, the Basilica of Bom
Jesus is not shaped like the Great Pyramid of Giza.
That's got to be the proof that SFX was not
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone who has seen a mummified corpse and St. FX's
remains would know the difference.
If anyone knows the difference between a 450-year
old mummified corpse and the SFX remains then anyone
should be able to answer the following simple
questions:
1.
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That was the last thing in my mind, however, since
many Christians have an a la carte approach to what
the religion teaches. However, we all know exactly
what is expected of us, which is the moral compass.
Buddhism and
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Christianity is no longer guilt ridden, though it
does provide a moral compass, which atheism does not
provide, preferring whatever is convenient at any
given time, of course within the legal system.
It is really unfortunate to witness this type of
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone who has seen the corpse od St. FX would know
that there is no sign of mummification.
The above comment is funny. It proposes that anyone
can tell if a 450 year-old body is mummified or not by
simply looking at it.
Is everyone born with an
--- cornel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I sincerely hope you said this with tongue in cheek.
Hi Cornel,
Tongue in cheek are too many words. You should say
joking. Why be so verbose and waste electrons? I am
sure you understand what I mean.
Cheers,
Santosh
--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to offer the same suggestion to this
writer.
Gilbert,
Perhaps, you should advise a poet to focus on prose
rather than verse. What good is a Shakespeare any way?
He used too many words and wasted a lot of paper.
Cheers,
Santosh
There is no real physical evidence that the SFX
remains were not embalmed or mummified. The only
expert testimony from the two physicians was written
two and a half years after the physical examination.
This after-the-fact record is not acceptable as expert
forensic evidence.
Whether the body
-- Gabriel de Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Believ whant you want. I haven't heard of the
above. Of the many results I got, the following
appears plausible:
Mystery of Padre Pio´s Stigmata Analyzed by
Scientist
http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=19067
Nothing in
Jose Colaco wrote:
This week on The Goan Forum at http://www.colaco.net
What exactly is the Goan Observer palming off as
Medical News?
A paper on Palmistry and its purported use in Medicine
has been published in the 2005 Archives of Goa Medical
College. It has
--- Sachin Phadte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But is this the rule or the exception? The article
gives a strong impression that it is the rule.
I don't understand this defensiveness at all. What is
so embarrassing about beautiful sculptures that depict
and sanctify an important fact of life,
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This author has apparently taken Khajuraho and
extrapolated from that.
Since I pointed out that I have seen erotic images of
deities in the temple friezes of Goa, let me provide
some pictoral evidence of this from the famous Kamat's
Potpouri website:
--- Sachin Phadte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anyone on this list let us know if there are
such temples in Goa?
I have not observed closely whether the figurines,
inlaid art and crown moldings in Goan temples show
deities copulating or not, but voluptuousness and
suggestive postures are
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The following excerpt is from the link above:
Its that time of year again when we at
JunkScience.com reflect on all the dubious
achievements and irresponsible
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He is clearly an extreme environmental
activist..
The above false allegation is the only bogus statement
in the above post that has not yet been repeated over
and over again in this forum by its author. All other
wild claims on climate science
The same disinformation regarding global warming and
atmospheric science is being repeated over and over
again in this forum. The following assertions among
many others have been shown to be false. Please see
the Goanet archives:
Bogus Claim 1
Nature Magazine recently reported one scientific
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fortunately, there are several scientists who dispute
such speculative laboratory experiments as
nonsensical and lacking in validity and common sense.
The above assertion is utterly bogus. No scientist
disputes the post-industrial increase in CO2 or the
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone who is not an extreme environmental activist
would acknowledge that global warming and cooling
have taken place many times in Earth's history, way
before the first automobile was invented.
The above assertion is deceptive. It is also a
Hi Gilbert,
Sorry for saying this again, but I have the same
problems with your last post as I had with your
initial post on Garcia de Orta. You once again provide
no justification in terms of reference to original or
earlier historical works for any of your own
speculations. But you go ahead and
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