[GROW]Re: IETF 119, GROW, draft-ietf-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats-01, draft-liu-grow-bmp-stats-reports-00

2024-05-10 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear Changwang, Thanks a lot for addressing my comments by adding a new stats counter TBD12. All perfect. I reviewed the new document and believe it is in a good shape now. Best wishes Thomas From: linchangwang Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2024 3:39 AM To: Mukul Srivastava ; Graf Thomas,

Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for Adoption for draft-hmntsharma-bmp-tcp-ao (start 29/Apr/2024 end 15/May/2024)

2024-05-05 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear GROW, I have read the document and support the adoption. Best wishes Thomas -Original Message- From: GROW On Behalf Of Job Snijders Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 11:54 PM To: grow@ietf.org Subject: [GROW] Working Group Call for Adoption for draft-hmntsharma-bmp-tcp-ao (start

Re: [GROW] IETF 119, GROW, draft-ietf-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats-01, draft-liu-grow-bmp-stats-reports-00

2024-05-01 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear Mukul, Thanks a lot for addressing my comments in https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/grow/oDgVmZgZpcxuPcKnjkMZzLLcEGo/. I reviewed. All perfect thanks. Regarding my comments in https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/grow/s55XlMStBXpq0BYTAFubg9aOdL8/, which received feedback from

[GROW] IETF 119, GROW, draft-ietf-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats-01, draft-liu-grow-bmp-stats-reports-00

2024-03-19 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear Mukul and Jinming, I have reviewed both documents and have a few comments. Speaking as a network operator, first of all I believe as previous stated it is very much valued that you intend not only to update existing BMP statistics but also much needed new statistics. Thank you very much

Re: [GROW] Working Group Last Call (WGLC) for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-peer-up (start 22/Jan/2024 end 6/Feb/2024)

2024-01-25 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear GROW, Thanks a lot! I support the publication of the document. Best wishs Thomas -Original Message- From: GROW On Behalf Of Job Snijders Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 8:21 PM To: grow@ietf.org Subject: [GROW] Working Group Last Call (WGLC) for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-peer-up (start

[GROW] draft-tgraf-netconf-notif-sequencing-03, draft-tgraf-netconf-yang-push-observation-time-00

2024-01-14 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear netconf, The following two documents have been updated: Name: draft-tgraf-netconf-notif-sequencing Revision: 03 Title:Support of Hostname and Sequencing in YANG Notifications Date: 2024-01-14 Group:Individual Submission Pages:10 URL:

[GROW] GROW, draft-lucente-grow-bmp-rel - BMP warning and upper bound event reason codes

2024-01-06 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear Paolo and Camilo, I have a comment on Section 3.3.1 of draft draft-lucente-grow-bmp-rel (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-lucente-grow-bmp-rel-03#section-3.3.1). Please consider to add two additional event reason codes as described below. As described in my previous post to the

Re: [GROW] The GROW WG has placed draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2024-01-06 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear Mukul, One more comment I missed in my previous feedback. A BGP speaker may have an prefix count upper bound as described in Section 6.7 of RFC 4271 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc4271#section-6.7) configured. When this upper bound is being reached, the BGP peer will be

Re: [GROW] The GROW WG has placed draft-msri-grow-bmp-bgp-rib-stats in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-12-07 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear GROW, I support the adoption of the document. Some comments for the authors: I suggest to reference RFC 9494 in TBD6 of section 2.1 to clearly describe the meaning. Regarding TBD5, the meaning of "marked as stale by any configuration" is unclear to me. Please describe in more detail.

Re: [GROW] The GROW WG has placed draft-fiebig-grow-bgpopsecupd in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-12-07 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear GROW, I support the adoption of document. It gives a network operator a good overview on BGP security considerations. Best wishes Thomas -Original Message- From: GROW On Behalf Of IETF Secretariat Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 6:17 PM To:

Re: [GROW] The GROW WG has placed draft-pels-grow-yang-bgp-communities in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

2023-12-07 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear GROW, I support the adoption of the document. Some comments for the authors: I suggest to reference RFC 9494 in TBD6 of section 2.1 to clearly describe the meaning. Regarding TBD5, the meaning of "marked as stale by any configuration" is unclear to me. Please describe in more detail.

Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for Adoption draft-lucente-grow-bmp-rel (start 25/Oct/2023 end 08/Nov/2023)

2023-10-26 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear GROW, I support the adoption of the document. In particular useful are the events exposing paths being dropped due to policy configurations. Best wishes Thomas -Original Message- From: GROW On Behalf Of Job Snijders Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 12:57 AM To: grow@ietf.org

Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for Adoption draft-francois-grow-bmp-loc-peer (start 24/Oct/2023 end 07/Nov/2023)

2023-10-24 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear GROW, I reviewed the document and believe it is a very useful extension of BMP Local RIB for network operators. I support the adoption. Best wishes Thomas -Original Message- From: GROW On Behalf Of Job Snijders Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 1:34 PM To: grow@ietf.org Subject:

Re: [GROW] Working Group Call for Adoption draft-cppy-grow-bmp-path-marking-tlv (start 30/Mar/2023 end 21/Apr/2023)

2023-04-02 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear GROW, I support adoption. I think it is a very valuable extension of BMP. Enabling network operators to verify how the paths are being installed in RIB and consequently being able to verify redundancy. Best wishes Thomas > On 30 Mar 2023, at 13:35, Job Snijders > wrote: > > Dear

Re: [GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-cptb-grow-bmp-yang (Ends 15/Sep/2022)

2022-08-25 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi GROW, As one of the co-authors I support the adoption of the draft. Best wishes Thomas -Original Message- From: GROW On Behalf Of Job Snijders Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2022 4:20 PM To: grow@ietf.org Subject: [GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-cptb-grow-bmp-yang (Ends

Re: [GROW] [Idr] [Lsr] IGP Monitoring Protocol

2022-07-09 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear Robert, I reviewed draft-raszuk-lsr-imp-00 and have some firsts comments and suggestions. First of all, speaking as a network operator who is using BMP to gain visibility into the BGP control-plane, seeing the real benefits in operation every day, I was looking very forward at IETF

[GROW] draft-lucente-grow-bmp-tlv-ebit-02 - review/comment

2022-07-08 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Paolo, I reviewed https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-lucente-grow-bmp-tlv-ebit-02 and have some minor nits and simplifications in wording to be considered. Best wishes Thomas Change from Vendors need the ability to define proprietary Information Elements, because, for

Re: [GROW] Working Group Adoption Call: draft-lucente-grow-bmp-tlv-ebit (Ends 02/May/2022)

2022-04-08 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear GROW working group, I read and support the draft-lucente-grow-bmp-tlv-ebit adoption. The support of vendor-specific TLVs in the BMP application enables the development of new BMP extensions the same way as enterprise-specific Information Elements did in IPFIX. Therefore I agree with the

Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (ends December 1st 2021)

2021-11-16 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear GROW WG, dear authors I have reviewed the draft. I think it is straight forward and ready for IESG. It is the next logical step to make the different BMP message types to be equal by supporting TLV's for BMP route-monitoring and peer_down messages as well. Best wishes Thomas

Re: [GROW] is TCP the right layer for BMP session resumption?

2021-03-29 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Tim, Many thanks for the feedback and input. Much appreciated. My apology for late reply. In section 5 of draft-tppy-bmp-seamless-session https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tppy-bmp-seamless-session-00#section-5 The BMP session lifecycle (not to be confused with TCP session lifecycle) is

Re: [GROW] is TCP the right layer for BMP session resumption?

2021-03-11 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Jakob, * When processes abort unexpectedly, loss must be assumed unless data integrity can be specifically proven. Absolutely. We need to distinguish between application and transport. At transport we do have sequence numbers and integrity on transport is ensured. On BMP application

Re: [GROW] is TCP the right layer for BMP session resumption?

2021-03-11 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Haibo, * Now we want to keep the BMP session active even the TCP session is closed, I think it means the BMP session state separate from the TCP session. For the BMP session closing it is delayed. Yes. * And in this scenario, we don't know whether the last message is sent to the

Re: [GROW] is TCP the right layer for BMP session resumption?

2021-03-11 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Jakob, All ack. Perfect. Thanks Regards, Thomas -Original Message- From: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 3:17 AM To: Graf Thomas, INI-NET-TCZ-ZH1 ; job=40fastly@dmarc.ietf.org Cc: draft-tppy-bmp-seamless-sess...@ietf.org; grow@ietf.org Subject: RE: [GROW]

Re: [GROW] is TCP the right layer for BMP session resumption?

2021-03-10 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Haibo, Quite the contrary. draft-tppy-bmp-seamless-session is not about the separation of the transport session from the BMP session. It is about to delay the termination of the BMP session when transport session is closed and introducing a mechanism to re-establish the BMP session. The

Re: [GROW] is TCP the right layer for BMP session resumption?

2021-03-10 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Jakob and Job, Ack on all. I would define 60 seconds to be default and configurable. Best wishes Thomas -Original Message- From: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 1:12 PM To: Job Snijders Cc: draft-tppy-bmp-seamless-sess...@ietf.org; grow@ietf.org Subject: RE:

Re: [GROW] is TCP the right layer for BMP session resumption?

2021-03-10 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Jakob, Thats clear. Apology. I was not precise enough. I would prefer the reliability to be solved on application layer than on transport layer since in a large scale BMP data collection, multiple daemons collect the BMP messages and failover among can occur. Best wishes Thomas From:

Re: [GROW] is TCP the right layer for BMP session resumption?

2021-03-10 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Jakob, Ack on all. The difference between sequence numbers in TCP transport and BMP application is clear. What I wondered if you could describe a bit more what benefit we would gain with BMP sequence numbers. At which point within the BMP client application loss technically could occur.

Re: [GROW] is TCP the right layer for BMP session resumption?

2021-03-09 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi John and Robert, Speaking as a network operator. I absolutely agree on your thoughts that a stateless transport would be preferred over a stateful. Best wishes Thomas From: GROW On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 10:38 PM To: John Kristoff Cc: grow@ietf.org

Re: [GROW] is TCP the right layer for BMP session resumption?

2021-03-09 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Job and Jakob, Many thanks for the good inputs which I consolidated in this reply. In regards to TFO applicability to the BMP application. During my initial research I was encouraged my section 6 of TFO RFC 7413 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7413#section-6 It is well understood that the

Re: [GROW] I-D Action: draft-ietf-grow-as-path-prepending-03.txt

2021-03-07 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear authors, Speaking as a network operator, I think your draft has merit and I agree BGP as-path prepending is misused on the Internet and a best common practice draft is welcomed. I like to comment on section 3.4 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-grow-as-path-prepending-03#section-3.4

[GROW] draft-tppy-bmp-seamless-session-00

2021-02-23 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear GROW wg, We submitted a new draft called BMP Seamless Session. Extending the current BMP session lifecycle to preserve the BMP session throughout - Brief loss of connectivity between BMP client and server - Maintenance of BMP server To prevent data duplication with the re-export of the

Re: [GROW] GROW Meeting @ IETF 107 / YVR

2020-03-08 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Job, Same as at IETF 106, I like to request a 10 minute slot to bring an update from the BMP group at IETF 107 hackathon. We are planning to test and validate the following BMP RFC's and drafts - RFC 7854 (​​https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7854) - RFC 8671

Re: [GROW] Proposed updates to GROW charter

2019-11-21 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Job, Very good input regarding „Devise a BGP Community Description System to IESG. I think a YANG informational BGP community modell might be the right thing to do. I would volunteer to support such an approach. I think it is good to keep the charter generic. I like your proposal. I would

Re: [GROW] BMP compression Draft

2019-10-16 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Mukul and Paolo, Thank you very much for this draft. I think it is a welcoming contribution to the other BMP drafts with the aim to reduce the encapsulation costs of BMP. Swisscom as service provider has seen by using BMP RFC 7854 configured on MPLS PE routers, the burstiness at the data

Re: [GROW] Request WG Adoption for draft-lucente-bmp-tlv

2019-07-26 Thread Thomas.Graf
I support adoption as an upcoming co-author. Thanks, Thomas From: GROW On Behalf Of Paolo Lucente Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:06 PM To: grow@ietf.org grow@ietf.org Subject: [GROW] Request WG Adoption for draft-lucente-bmp-tlv Dear GROWers, We would like to request WG adoption for

Re: [GROW] Path marking using BMP - TLVs

2019-07-16 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Yunan, > Regarding your suggestion of adding a "ECMP" path type, well, the currently > defined "0x0004 -- Primary Path" path type should do the work. In fact, the > so-called "Primary Path" in this draft refers to all the ECMP paths > (including the "Best path"). Of course, we can further

Re: [GROW] Path marking using BMP - TLVs

2019-07-12 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Camilo, Paulo and Yunan, Thank you very much for this exciting and very useful draft. This will make draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib even more useful. On top of having access to all (not only to the best) BGP paths in BGP local RIB, thanks to this draft, we will finally understand how these

Re: [GROW] Prefix limit ORF

2019-03-26 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Job, Thanks for the input regarding draft-keyur-idr-bgp-prefix-limit-orf-03. That’s what I meant. Incoming peer prefix limit needs to be advertised by BGP. I think it’s a bad idea to configure statically an outbound peer maximum prefix limit. The only reason why I want that is to align with

Re: [GROW] New Version Notification for draft-xu-grow-bmp-route-policy-attr-trace-00.txt(Internet mail)

2019-03-26 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Yunan and co-authors of this draft, First of all as network operator I welcome this extension to BMP to gain visibility how and how fast BGP prefixes are being processed through various route-policies within a router. Managing BGP route-policing configurations in a large and automated

Re: [GROW] working group last call draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib (ends 2018.11.26)

2018-11-15 Thread Thomas.Graf
Dear GROW, I fully support publication of both drafts. They are very useful and long awaited. We are looking forward to implement it on our network as soon as it is available from our vendors. Kind regards Thomas Graf

Re: [GROW] Dropped Updates in BMP?

2018-03-21 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi all, Thank you very much for the updated drafts and presentation at IETF 101 regarding bmp and Adj-RIB-Out and Local-RIB support. I have been reading the updated draft and fully support them. Regarding route filtering the comment from Reudiger Volk. From a network operator point of view, I

Re: [GROW] WG LC for draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community

2018-02-27 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi Zhenqiang and the coauthors, First of all I have to congratulate to this draft. I share the opinion that BGP communities are a very powerful information element. Correlated to the forwarding plane it gives a more detailed and granular view of the network usage then AS numbers or paths.

[GROW] , feedback, draft-evens-grow-bmp-adj-rib-out-01, draft-evens-grow-bmp-local-rib-00

2017-08-16 Thread Thomas.Graf
Hi, I would like to congratulate on these two drafts, share my opinions and our intention to use BMP local RIB and Adj RIB Out support as soon as it is available and look forward to test it. We have BMP V3 and BGP VPNv4/VPNv6 eBGP peerings to MPLS PE routers from our collectors. We are using