I think you are pretty much on track with a tubular pouch but probably a tie
flap and not a drawstring.
This is completely NON period, but I would take a piece of pvc and put it in
the pouch. This way, even if he sits on it, it would be protected. Completely
covered inside and out, it
This is completely NON period, but I would take a piece of pvc and put
it in the pouch. This way, even if he sits on it, it would be protected.
Completely covered inside and out, it wouldn't even be that
noticeable.
My first thought was of some of the scabbards in the Museum of London book,
Kathy wrote:
This is completely NON period, but I would take a piece of pvc and put
it in the pouch. This way, even if he sits on it, it would be
protected. Completely covered inside and out, it wouldn't even be that
noticeable.
Emma added:
My first thought was of some of the scabbards in
Lorina wrote:
I don't know if any of you are following TVO's
presentation of
the BBC series that follows the lives of several
archaeologists/experts who
are recreating life in the 16th century. Unlike most reality shows,
this one
is not set up for conflict, rather for discovery, hence
Both of these are good thoughts. The idea of leather rather than fabric
struck me after I wrote my note, but I'm not in contact with local
re-enactors and I don't do much leatherwork, though I might be able to sew
some heavy pieces together. Maybe a combination, with leather on the
outside, PVC
I've read all the interesting suggestions posted so far. What occurs to me,
particularly because you want him to be able to wear it on his back, is a
modified quiver. You could even play the jest all the way and put a few dummy
arrows in there along with the recorder--maybe make a rigid
I have Hard Day's Night and Help, as well as Modesty Blaise on the list to go
to the library today to pick up my holds. I'd forgotten about the Man from
UNCLE, thank you!
Pics? Judging by the number of pics we had taken as a group with this years
fun of Space Cadet Girl Scouts I can
Hi,
I've a question for all corset makers here: which kind of boning (steel or
plastic) would you use for a victorian - style corset (if not a real
whalebone)? And generally, what experiences do you have when using steel or
plastic boning? Do you mix them as well?
I'd really like to
Robin, have you seen the instrument cases in the Triumph of Maximilian
series of engravings? e.g.
http://www.thinker.org/imagebase_zoom.asp?rec=3328201308440055 ?
Some years ago when I was portraying a 17th century military drummer
and wanted to carry a wind instrument hanging from my belt, I
The more you tight lace/squish in, the more you need steel. If you are
looking for a period silhouette without tight lacing, plastic works just
fine. When I make corsets, I use plastic corset boning for everything
except a busk, as I am not overweight, have an average bust size, and
have no
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Kate M Bunting wrote:
Robin, have you seen the instrument cases in the Triumph of
Maximilian series of engravings? e.g.
http://www.thinker.org/imagebase_zoom.asp?rec=3328201308440055 ?
Thank you! I would never have known about this.
I can come up with any number of ways
What style of Victorian corset do you plan to make? Do you have a
pattern/image picked out? How regularly do you plan to wear the corset--will
it be a daily thing, on the weekends, a few times a year, or only once?
-E House
PS-- you might want to join
Wow, thanks for the info, guys.
So, Bella, are those images all Italians? Are stripes ever found anywhere
outside of Italy?
I usually do English/Flemish, and my friend Dawn (of DawnPages, who posts on
this list) pointed out
that you never see woven-in stripes in northern Europe. I
Mmm I don't think back quivers are medieval.
Altough I love them.
Greetings,
Deredere
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I've read all the interesting suggestions posted so far. What occurs to me,
particularly because you want him to be able to wear it on his back, is a
modified quiver. You
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Are stripes ever found anywhere outside of Italy?
If you want to crossdress, there are plenty of 15th early 16thC
Franco-Flemish German males wearing stripes! Especially striped hosen,
which is an interesting effect.
-E House
At 18:09 05/12/2006, you wrote:
What style of Victorian corset do you plan to make? Do you have a
pattern/image picked out? How regularly do you plan to wear the
corset--will it be a daily thing, on the weekends, a few times a
year, or only once?
-E House
I use spiral steel for all
Well, my dummy is naked, but my sewing machine and work table are wearing
pieces of the medieval dress with big bell sleeves that I've taken apart so I
can remake it to fit me. When I bought it I thought it would just need
hemming. Once I got into it I found it was going to be much more
Whalebone is now illegal, but the support and flexibility of the old
stuff are pretty similar to modern plastic boning.
Fran
I use spiral steel for all Victorian era corsets, with straight steels
either side the lacing holes, and a steel busk in the centre front if
required. I would never
Oh, dear, so much for Robin Hood (and his band of merry men!)!
--Ruth Anne
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From: Deredere Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Dec 5, 2006 11:42 AM
To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Research on medieval instrument cases?
Mmm I don't think back
In a message dated 05/12/2006 16:18:35 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It was absolute bliss, utterly fascinating - and in Scotland they
decided to take it off after 9 episodes, so we had to get the DVD to see
the last 3 months, grrr! I learned so much that you just don't
At 19:08 05/12/2006, you wrote:
Whalebone is now illegal, but the support and flexibility of the old
stuff are pretty similar to modern plastic boning.
Fran
I use spiral steel for all Victorian era corsets, with straight
steels either side the lacing holes, and a steel busk in the centre
In a message dated 05/12/2006 19:04:35 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I use spiral steel for all Victorian era corsets, with straight
steels either side the lacing holes, and a steel busk in the centre
front if required. I would never use plastic boning for this period -
In a message dated 05/12/2006 19:04:35 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've thought about that a lot. I think I have a severe fear of making that
initial cut into virgin fabric. Anyone else suffer from this?
completely - with expensive or hard to get fabric.
imagine what
You can actually purchase whalebone legally from Inuit traders. This was
on a discussion list I was looking at last week. I have a bundle of
genuine corset whalebone inherited from an elderly corsetiere, ands
while it is flexible like modern plastic boning, which I like for other
periods,
Yes, You can find stripes in Germanic men and women's outfits.
Men
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Robert_Campin_001.jpg
women
this one you kind o' miss, the woman in yellow has a brocade [diagonal?]
stripes, monochromatic
http://tinyurl.com/ylxjrk
http://tinyurl.com/yjqfsv
De
I haven't picked out any exact pattern or image, I don't know exactly how the
corset is going to look like yet. The basic idea is of a corset without gussets
(or with as little as possible), with rather vertical seams.
I got a very special (and very funny, too) order from a man who bet with
Hi Suzi,
Yes it is, and i also dont wonder any more, how they could make the big
panniers that light and delicate, and still have the strenght to hold all
the heavy fabric on the dresses.
Plastic is all right, but really not the same.
Bjarne
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From: Suzi Clarke
Hi,
I would not use a victorian corset for a man. It would be two uncomfortable
for him to wear with the hourglass figure.
Many years ago i made a costume for myself from the painting of Henry III of
france, he has a very slim waist in the portrait, broad shoulders and a big
ruff.
I made a
I've thought about that a lot. I think I have a severe fear of making
that
initial cut into virgin fabric. Anyone else suffer from this?
completely - with expensive or hard to get fabric.
I use to have that problem big time, but now, the more I use such fabrics,
the less I am intimidated
Longer post w/pics later tonight cos I'm about to go run errands, but in the
late victorian/edwardian era there are men's corsets--you might want to base
the one you make on them, at least in terms of design construction, if not
shape. (They were generally marketed towards older military men,
If it as a modern woman, a Victorian corset is not the thing.
Speaking as a resident of San Francisco, I can say that the things that
really give away a transvestite are the size and shape of the hands and
wrists, the size of the shoulders, and often the shape of the jaw.
Fran
I haven't
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 6 December, 2006 4:58:04 AM
Subject: [h-cost] Re: striped skirt
So, Bella, are those images all Italians?
Much more specific than that - they are all Venetians - either from Venice
When discussing plastic corset boning, remember there are several
types of plastic available. There is a featherboning that is often
sold with a fabric covering, Wissner that comes in a couple of widths
and thicknesses (and is supposed to be similar to whalebone), and
Rigiline. Rigiline is
Hi
I have come up against a problem with my proposed Fursuit and the
extra things that I cannot seem to solve with the research that I
have been doing into it.
I am looking for some help in finding a pattern for the TUNIC ... in
the artwork for the suit that I am building. Someone suggested
At 23:00 05/12/2006, you wrote:
Hi
I have come up against a problem with my proposed Fursuit and the
extra things that I cannot seem to solve with the research that I
have been doing into it.
I am looking for some help in finding a pattern for the TUNIC ...
in the artwork for the suit that I
Stripes are easy to weave, no special loom technology required.
However, most pre-modern dyes were not fast in linen, so if you wove
a striped linen over time it would fade to being monochrome, plus,
linen wasn't used for outerwear that much, so why bother wasting dye?
This leaves mainly
On Dec 5, 2006, at 3:36 PM, Suzi Clarke wrote:
At 23:00 05/12/2006, you wrote:
Hi
I have come up against a problem with my proposed Fursuit and the
extra things that I cannot seem to solve with the research that
I have been doing into it.
I am looking for some help in finding a pattern for
For those awaiting (such as I am) Dress at the Court of King Henry VIII,
the publisher has informed me that the release date has been delayed to May
2007.
Beth
Dress at the Court of King Henry VIII by Maria Hayward. Maney Pub. ().
Clothbound with full colour dustjacket, ca 384 pages with ca
What about the occasional stripes showing up in the Manesse Codex?
There's also that picture of Beatrice Sforza, and it's clearly striped
(black and white, IIRC). Okay, so she's Italian, but she wasn't Venetian.
--Sue
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I've just come off teaching a class on social distinctions in dress
1100-1500, and at least in the visual corpus, stripes are usually only
seen on musicians or servants or people who are in some way social
inferiors. There's at least one sumptuary law requiring prostitutes to
wear rayed
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 7:03 AM
Subject: [h-cost] h-cost] What's your dressmaker dummy wearing and
sewingaffliction
In a message dated 05/12/2006 19:04:35 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Quoting Beth and Bob Matney [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
For those awaiting (such as I am) Dress at the Court of King Henry
VIII, the publisher has informed me that the release date has been
delayed to May 2007.
Do you have any idea about how much it's going to cost?
susan
-
Susan Farmer
[EMAIL
You see what I mean about my memory Sue?! Yes, Beatrice d'Este is a very good
example (I think most opinions I've heard say that the stripes are applied in
that example, to relate this back to the original question). I have not studied
the Manesse Codex and can't speak to that. And yes, she is
I’m gearing up to make a new dress, and was wondering if anybody on here has
made up the 1878 dress from Janet Arnold’s Pattern of Fashion 2. (ha –
rhetorical question – I’m sure somebody has!) I’m got a general idea of what
I want out of the dress, and this seems to be closest to what I want.
There are existing striped Spanish (royal) garments from Museo de Telas
Medievales. These are a bit earlier that those Italian being discussed
(some back to the 13C).
See:
Vestiduras ricas : el Monasterio de las Huelgas y su época, 1170-1340 : del
16 de marzo al 19 de junio de 2005 Madrid:
Diagonal stripes on a King. Horizontal on a musician
http://tinyurl.com/y5qynw
Various ranks
http://tinyurl.com/y8avx6
A lord
http://tinyurl.com/y3fqet
Young man
http://tinyurl.com/yy3cng
Master
http://tinyurl.com/wzam6
Armourer and apron?
I've a question for all corset makers here: which kind of
boning (steel or plastic) would you use for a Victorian -
style corset (if not a real whalebone)? And generally, what
experiences do you have when using steel or plastic boning?
Do you mix them as well?
I'd really like to
At 3:03 PM -0500 12/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 05/12/2006 19:04:35 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've thought about that a lot. I think I have a severe fear of making that
initial cut into virgin fabric. Anyone else suffer from this?
completely -
On Tuesday 05 December 2006 9:56 pm, Chris Laning wrote:
At 3:03 PM -0500 12/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 05/12/2006 19:04:35 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've thought about that a lot. I think I have a severe fear of making
that initial cut into
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