I will! Thanks for the reminder.
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Sent: June 24, 2007 11:56 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Hello?
Jennifer Byrne wrote:
Ha! You'll have to wrestle my daughter for it! I making
Oh, dear, no apology needed. The photos will
eventually end up on my personal web site, but I
wanted to upload them quickly to share with people.
And I agree on the hair arrangement. I just have to
learn how to french braid my now shorter hair.
Kimiko
--- MaggiRos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh
Elena,
How are things out in St. Louis? Just as hot as KC, I bet.
I've finally got my corset pattern on order, hope to have it by the end
of the week. We could be able to come out and visit you by the 2nd week
in July. What do you think?
Dawn
A friend asks:
What do you call those sort of bloomers that men wore with hose in the
16th c in France. They are rounded in outline, striped, come to about mid
thigh.
Evidently he's looking for a French term, though if there's an obvious
English one I'll send him that as well.
--Robin
Robin Netherton wrote:
A friend asks:
What do you call those sort of bloomers that men wore with hose in the
16th c in France. They are rounded in outline, striped, come to about mid
thigh.
Evidently he's looking for a French term, though if there's an obvious
English one I'll send him that as
There's often called slops but the more generic term
is trunk hose. I don't know what they are in French.
MaggiRos
--- Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A friend asks:
What do you call those sort of bloomers that men
wore with hose in the
16th c in France. They are rounded in
The bloomers were also called hose in England, though often with a
modifier to denote the style: trunk hose, round hose, Spanish hose,
slop hose (sometimes just called slops). The 16th century French-
English dictionaries to which I have access call them chausses, and
sometimes a modifier
Did he mean these possibly?
http://lynnmcmasters.com/elizmanslopscloseup.html
Pansied slops.
Chiara
On Tue, June 26, 2007 12:17 pm, Robin Netherton wrote:
A friend asks:
What do you call those sort of bloomers that men wore with hose in
the
16th c in France. They are rounded in outline,
I've never heard of pansied slops. I wonder where the name came
from. Aha--another online reference says it came from Winter and
Savoy's book, which is almost completely untrustworthy. I would
treat this term with skepticism until a 16th-century reference can be
found--does anyone have
At 18:17 26/06/2007, you wrote:
A friend asks:
What do you call those sort of bloomers that men wore with hose in the
16th c in France. They are rounded in outline, striped, come to about mid
thigh.
Evidently he's looking for a French term, though if there's an obvious
English one I'll send
Greetings Melanie,
I had never heard of them either, that is why I asked a french type
person and he sent me to that visual link. :)
But I love the definitions that you just posted a few minutes ago.
Neto!
Chiara
On Tue, June 26, 2007 1:23 pm, Melanie Schuessler wrote:
I've never heard of
At 19:23 26/06/2007, you wrote:
I've never heard of pansied slops. I wonder where the name came
from. Aha--another online reference says it came from Winter and
Savoy's book, which is almost completely untrustworthy. I would
treat this term with skepticism until a 16th-century reference can
Melanie's amazing reply did the job for my friend. Thanks, all. (Though
feel free to discuss amongst yourselves if it pleases you. I've learned
that the simplest queries can lead to the longest threads.)
Back to editing manuscripts about Scandinavian archaeological textiles...
--Robin
On Jun 26, 2007, at 2:35 PM, Suzi Clarke wrote:
This could be a translation of la panse or pourpoint a panseron
which were derogatory terms for the clothes worn by the feminine
gentlemen of the court of Henri lll - les hommes effemines.
(Although these seem to refer to the doublet,
At 19:42 26/06/2007, you wrote:
On Jun 26, 2007, at 2:35 PM, Suzi Clarke wrote:
This could be a translation of la panse or pourpoint a panseron
which were derogatory terms for the clothes worn by the feminine
gentlemen of the court of Henri lll - les hommes effemines.
(Although these seem to
Someone asked me about the editing on Scandinavian archaeological
textiles I'm in the middle of, and it occurred to me you all might like a
sneak peek of the tentative contents of Vol. 4 (2008) of Medieval Clothing
and Textiles.
Flax/linen production in medieval Russia
References to scarlet
Whooo h! I already want a copy.
Mari
Someone asked me about the editing on Scandinavian archaeological
textiles I'm in the middle of, and it occurred to me you all might like a
sneak peek of the tentative contents of Vol. 4 (2008) of Medieval Clothing
and Textiles.
Flax/linen production
Round hose, yes. I knew I was forgetting something.
Trunk hose are all manner of hose covering the trunk
(as opposed to nether hose, which cover the lower
legs). But Round hose was the correct name for slops
in and of themselves. Round paned hose when they have
panes over them.
Thank you
Schultz Winter use pansied for some slops so brief
there doesn't seem to be any room for a crotch. Kinda
like this:
http://www.vam.ac.uk/images/image/21629-large.jpg
More than that, I can't say.
MaggiRos
--- Chiara Francesca [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Greetings Melanie,
I had never heard
MaggiRos wrote:
By the way, I stumbled over this charming site. It's
paper dolls for Taming of the Shrew as a Globe
production. That is, all the women's clothes go on a
boy's figure--of course.
http://www.gallimauphry.com/PD/shrew/shrew.html
Those look familiar... yes, the same artist did a
Gentles of The Lists,
would anyone like to point me in the direction of a good source [downloadable
or otherwise] for Users manuals for the following Bernina machines - the 700,
730, Bernina CMatic 801 Electronic?
Our little Island-isolated groups of living-history interpreters and SCA
In a message dated 26/06/2007 19:01:22 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What do you call those sort of bloomers that men wore with hose in the
16th c in France. They are rounded in outline, striped, come to about mid
thigh.
probably already been answered, but could be one of
julian wilson wrote:
Gentles of The Lists,
would anyone like to point me in the direction of a good source [downloadable or
otherwise] for Users manuals for the following Bernina machines - the 700, 730,
Bernina CMatic 801 Electronic?
Not downloadable, but a resource for manuals
This site claims to have manuals for many models, both print anPDF versions:
http://www.sewconsult.com/bernina_instruction_manuals.htm
Kim (no affiliation)
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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:30
You're welcome! But I'm not sure I agree that slops and round hose
are the same thing. Certainly some of the definitions I sent suggest
that variations had different names. Palsgrave associates slops with
sailors' hose while Cotgrave talks about the big round hose of the
Swiss. I'm
On Tuesday 26 June 2007, Robin Netherton wrote:
Someone asked me about the editing on Scandinavian archaeological
textiles I'm in the middle of, and it occurred to me you all might like a
sneak peek of the tentative contents of Vol. 4 (2008) of Medieval Clothing
and Textiles.
Flax/linen
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, Cynthia J Ley wrote:
Oh WOW, Robin!!! This looks so cool! :D
When will it be available?
May I pass this along to some of my local and kingdom lists?
Glad you like it! Yes, might as well drum up some interest -- but remember
the list I just posted is for the volume
Oh WOW, Robin!!! This looks so cool! :D
When will it be available?
May I pass this along to some of my local and kingdom lists?
WOO-HOO!! :-)
Arlys
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:12:38 -0500 (CDT) Robin Netherton
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Someone asked me about the editing on Scandinavian
In a message dated 6/26/2007 2:31:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(Sorry no accents - don't know how!)
Suzi
*
FYI
I don't know how to do it on a Mac, but if you have Windows:
Go to START
Then to All Programs
then to Accessories
I can't recall who, but I seem to remember someone asking what the
structure inside 16th-century hats was. I came across a reference to
a felt understructure today in the accounts of Robert Dudley
(Leicester) from 1559-61:
Item for making a chrymissin velvet cap for Sir Henry Sydney’s
FYI
I don't know how to do it on a Mac, but if you have Windows:
Go to START
Then to All Programs
then to Accessories
then to System Tools
Find the Character Map and go to it.
snip
or even easier, open a word document click on the insert menu, click on
symbol and select the accented
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From: Melanie Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:23 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Need a term...
I've never heard of pansied slops. I wonder where the name came from.
Aha--another online reference
Hi,
If you'll contact me off list, I might be able to help re: manual for
Bernina 830.
Laurie
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