Deredere Galbraith wrote:
I was thinking of what my next costume would be and I came to an
interesting question.
What would be your dream costume?
If you wouldn't be limited by money or your own expertise.
Well, I think I'd like to have a full-on Victorian - that period between
the two bustle
Lately, I've had an overwhelming desire to make a 1660s-80s gown. I would
modernize it slightly and make it all fluffy and fancy, but pretty much all
the changes I can think of making were actually done at some point during
that period!
Since I no longer get free fabric, though, I must save
so what about panty peek when a woman bends over in low rise jeans?
argh
Silvara
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] Baggy pants (OT but who cares?)
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I hear that in New York the cops LIKE the baggy pants style. Seems the
crooks don't pull up the pants as they are trying to flee the scene of a
crime and so are easily caught. And they say women are slaves to fashion!
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Without the limitation of time or money, it would be either Queen
Elizabeth's dress in the Pelican Portrait or the Phoenix dress with all the
proper detail. Just can't imagine...
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In a message dated 6/19/2007 1:23:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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One teacher I worked with absolutely forbade them in her classroom, as in
You're in college now, dress like the big boys now!
Do guys who wear their pants like this really think we ladies will be
No restrictions at all?
I would love to make at least One gown with all underpinnings and accessories
for every period, every country/culture beginning around the 10th century...
That's a big dream...
Gia
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La Mode
Very true. All you say is true. It does look stupid on anyone over
16. And
banning them in a classroom or at the local Country Club is
actually OK with
me. But for the town to make it a CRIME!... with a fine and all.
Not funny.
I agree. It screams of harkening back to sumptuary
Sorry if you get this message more than once.
It's been several hours since I send a message but it doesn't appear on
the list.
Mmmm I think I found several dresses.
I love this pink one
http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/J1.jpg
But it will cost many meters of fabric.
I also love
Lavolta Press wrote:
What do they do to you in Lousiana if your slip is showing? Or if you
INTENTIONALLY wear a silk camisole as a blouse?
I would bet it is selectively enforced.
About 12 years ago Dallas TX enacted a law against wearing bandannas.
Anyone caught wearing one is subject to
Ooooh, I was going to say that! Of course I have
absolutely no place to wear it, but I can dream...
MaggiRos
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A Robe a la Francaise sewn and embroidered by
Bjarne, complete with
corset, pannier, stomacher, hat, cap and purse.
Sigh, just a
for starters
A bit early about 10th c.
http://www.regia.org/
http://www.regia.org/listings.htm
11th c.
http://www.gelfling.dds.nl/anglo-saxon.html
http://www.moondragon.org/costumes/11cdress.html
http://members.lycos.co.uk/Wulfingas/11thdress.htm
book
These images are a bit of a mix. (Check the sources at the bottom to
help identify which are considered Saxon and which Norman.) But it may
serve as a general overview or starting point.
http://www.uvm.edu/%7Ehag/rhuddlan/images/
And of course, in terms of books, Gale Owen-Crocker's is a great
At 05:40 PM 6/18/2007, you wrote:
Clark Gable
Oh, yum!
Or Cary Grant
Or James Stewart
Or George Clooney, who reminds me more and more of Cary Grant as he ages...
But my dream costume would be either Elizabeth I's Pelican gown, or
Jane Seymour's Holbein gown
Dianne
I was thinking of what my next costume would be and I came to an
interesting question.
What would be your dream costume?
If you wouldn't be limited by money or your own expertise.
The red Bronzino and a slimmer me.
Margaret
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My daughter says thank goodness they ARE wearing underwear.
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One teacher I
My dream costume is being worked on right now. An embroidered jacket,
slashed silk petticoats and a coat from the early 17th century. We have
been plotting for about six months now...the embroidery has begun and now I
am in search for the perfect silk.
Yes, I am spoiled!
Kelly
An
Mmmm I think I found several dresses.
I love this pink one
http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~triade2/tijdelijk/J1.jpg
But it will cost many meters of fabric.
I also love this style of dress.
Especially the bodice.
I would like it a bit more modern I think.
In black with lots of embroidery, lace and
In no particular order:
The Infanta Isabella (Photo in 20,000 Years of Costume)
The pannier gown on the cover of Hollywood and History
The Bob Mackie Elizabeth I that Whoopi Goldberg wore at the Oscars
several years ago.
Can you guess I like glitz?
Sandy
At 01:00 PM 6/18/2007, you wrote:
Oops I forgot one!
I would love to have a male 18th century white silk with gold embroidery
complete set.
And than wear it to modern party's.
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Oops I forgot one!
I would love to have a male 18th century white silk with gold embroidery
complete set.
And than wear it to modern party's.
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Karolee Smiley wrote...
Think about it...
And what did you wear when you were young that horrified your parents?
And what did your parents wear that horrified your grandparents?
And so on...
I recall my grandmother speaking to my older brother in the 1960s as he was
dressed to go out for
What about pants that show more (less?) than underwear? Are they going
after the (stereotyped) plumbers, too?
Patty
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Think about it...
And what did you wear when you were young that horrified
your parents?
Hot pink velour hip-hugger bell-bottoms... That were from the thrift
shop and were waaay too short (but I loved them for some obscure reason
and so didn't care). And it was 7th grade in 1975, my first year
This must mean tiny knife pleatsthink the underside of a mushroom cap.
At home you might get the effect by taking the finished strip and sewing in
tiny full return pleats at the hem and the end to be sewn to the chemisette,
then pinning it taught to the ironing board so the pleats run
I'm sorryI meant to add that you might be able to get the tiny even
pleats by doing something like a smocking technique...like tiny cartridge
pleats... at both ends of the frill. Then letting it collapse flat in one
direction... the same at both ends.
I'm making this up, y'know. I've
Oh... when I think of all the polyester shirts in Ice cream colors and
stripes with long collars and wide cuffs I wore in prep-schoolYikes!
['71-'75]
They all had little tiny round burn holes with melted edges in them from pot
seeds exploding in all those joints I and my long haired
On Jun 18, 2007, at 21:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You go right ahead and move there, Deary. I find this type of
Puritanical
foolishness more obscene that seeing someone's boxers.[Wonder how
race plays
into it?] What next, banning fat people from wearing short
sleeves? Burkas for
On Jun 19, 2007, at 8:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is about fashion, y'knowjust not historical fashion [yet].
But we
should discuss something ...well, less scary!
This IS historical fashion from about '52, which was the first time
it came around. It was only around about 2
Back in the '60's more than one town or city actually enacted laws on minimal
skirt length when the miniskirt jumped the pond from Carnaby Street to
stateside. For guys, the Beatles' haircut roused similar ire.
Many public schools are banning the droopy pants, along with anything gang
and/or
8 platform shoes,
-C.
Oh my word! How on earth did you walk in them?
High heels are such a foreign concept to me. I've been singing my whole
life, and singers should never wear a heel over an inch high (throws off
your balance, which throws off your breathing). But then, being 5'9, I
never
Sonja (LS-LAMP) wrote:
The pants would pull downward on whatever was worn underneath. Believe me;
this sometimes went well beyond a little skin showing or thong strap not to
mention near-see-through white briefs
So? Surely that is covered by existing indecent exposure laws.
In terms of differentiation, use decoration and jewellery. Saxons go
for braid, embroidery, and bling. Normans are restrained and plain,
just a bit of contrasting facing on cuffs and necklines.
Not necessarily accurate, but good shorthand for that kind of event.
Jean
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Well, at least, when WE wore low-slung jeans in the late '60s-early '70s, we
took great pains to be sure our blouses didn't pull out--remember the torture
of bodysuits?
Ann Wass
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8 platform shoes,
-C.
Oh my word! How on earth did you walk in them?
High heels are such a foreign concept to me. I've been singing my whole
life, and singers should never wear a heel over an inch high (throws off
your balance, which throws off your breathing). But then, being 5'9, I
never
My dream costume has been this one, of Elizabeth de
Valois, Queen of Spain.
http://tlsun.com/society/pics/ElizabethValois.jpg
Now, I do plan on making this one someday, with full
embroidery and jewels, the whole shebang. I just need
to work on my skills some more.
My next big project, which will
Dopes anyone know for sure, is the main fabric of this
dress embroidered, or voided velvet or satin, or
brocade, or what? Not the embroidered gardes, but the
ground fabric.
I LOVE that dress. It's just about the most truly
royal gown I can think of.
MaggiRos
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do lads still dress like that? the baggy pants showing the underwear I mean
- it's so 90s. :o)
it's ridiculous but I can't help feeling that banning them is a bit more
ridiculous. and making it an arrestable offence is just stupid.
every generation tries to offend the
ripped jeans.
and really heavy make up.
and almost exclusively black.
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Heh ... someone doctored this image pretty good there with her own
face instead of the real one.
Here is a better shot and a more accurate representation of the
painting.
http://thumb18.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/58/50/2365258500094285158cCopNf_th.jpg
:)
Chiara
On Tue, June 19, 2007 5:18 pm,
I have plans to make this dress and from what I can tell is that it is
embroidery. It is not velvet though a short haired velvet wouldn't be bad
for a rendition of the gown.
http://www.marileecody.com/isabel.jpg
http://ladysarafina.home.att.net/isabeldevalois.JPG
bigger picture
Thank you. I thought it looked funny, but a google
dredge didn't show up any other versions of the full
gown. Thankfully I have it in print to scan and detail
later.
And the image you showed seems to be a thumbnail, not
a full image.
Kimiko
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Heh
In a message dated 6/19/2007 4:05:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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Delcambre is a small town and several town citizens complained about this
style of dress
Now you know the rest of the story.
So if several citizens [I wonder how many] complained, say about
On Tuesday 19 June 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No restrictions at all?
I would love to make at least One gown with all underpinnings and
accessories for every period, every country/culture beginning around the
10th century...
That's a big dream...
But one I can relate too. In a sense
I was thinking of what my next costume would be and I came to an
interesting question.
What would be your dream costume?
If you wouldn't be limited by money or your own expertise.
Well, I tend to make my dream costumes. My good friends and family bought
the materials for my Laureling gown:
8 platform shoes,
Oh my word! How on earth did you walk in them?
With a lot of ease, in fact.
Proportionally, they were the same as a normal shoe. The heel was about 8
high, the sole was 7 1/2. There was a curved cut-away under the toe to aid in
stepping and they were made from
I think that the fabric for the front of the underskirt panel is low sheen
satin (or duponi silk with some shimmery threads every so often laid into
the weave but it could be just the variation of the silk when it is hand
spun) with maybe a jacquard weave of a pattern. The few areas where the
I'm going Wednesday night to turn in my application to be a volunteer at
a local historic site. They do 1860's. Nothing fancy, it's a farm house,
but it looks like it could be fun. I've met some of the other ladies and
they're nice.
Wish me luck. I don't know if they're going to interview me
Sorry .. http://entertainment.webshots.com/album/557253511xAShgE?start=12
Try that link and scroll down to her picture then click on it for the larger
images. :)
Chiara
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