Re: [h-cost] Dress Form Class: was williamsburg suit

2006-02-05 Thread Tania Gruning
One of the problems with the papertape and ducttape forms is that they are not really corrected after being made. Standing up for 2 hours or so, getting glued up with automatically make you slouch, so what you get is a dressform with a bad posture ;-) The teacher is using some special

Re: [h-cost] Oseberg textiles

2006-02-05 Thread Caroline
I know vol 4 was never published. If it is going to be published only Oslo University would know. I recently got some unpublished text from Perth (I still had to pay - and I cannot publish it) on medieval textiles excavated in the 80's. The text for Osbergfundet 4 may also be available in this

Re: [h-cost] interpretation of an image

2006-02-05 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
Here's a wild guess. The answer might be cued from the piece of paper in his hand. Since the rest of the people in the scene seem to be laborers, the man in the robe could be what we might now call a foreman of some sort. The part of the garment that has the effect of a yoke appears to me to be

Re: [h-cost] Re: Cage crinolines: wire/steel hoops and casings query

2006-02-05 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
Wouldn't that be too flimsy? Seems to me that the weight of any garment would crush the extension. I have read somewhere (Godey's) that piano wire was one of the reliable wires for making these cages. I have at least three crins of this period and the wire in them is not quite tubular (think

Re: [h-cost] Re: Cage crinolines: wire/steel hoops and casings query

2006-02-05 Thread Katy Bishop
Farthingale's has crin steel a Thread Covered Hoop Steel, I've never tried it but it looks much like what is in original cage hoops, don't know about the weight/stiffness. I've wanted to try it for a cage hoop or bustle if my budget ever allows. http://www.farthingales.on.ca/hoopsteel.php Text

Re: [h-cost] interpretation of an image

2006-02-05 Thread ruthanneb
It looks to me like an add-on, too--an applied exaggerated collar (fur?), most likely, considering how well it fits the neck edge of the gown. (Those points would have been the envy of Carnaby Street back in the 'Sixties!) It doesn't look like a turn-back of the gown's natural edge. I initially

Re: [h-cost] Re: Cage crinolines: wire/steel hoops and casings query

2006-02-05 Thread Carol Kocian
I have at least three crins of this period and the wire in them is not quite tubular (think 'linguini and not speggitti).It is flexable but is not bent easily. The originals were fiber cased. Needle Thread in Gettysburg, PA (USA) carries this hooping. At least they did some years back

Re: [h-cost] 1930's factory wear

2006-02-05 Thread Helen Pinto
angela wrote: Can anyone on the list point me to a source for period uniforms for the depression era? Or perhaps even abroad in the 1930s. I am doing a production of Urinetown, and we are going for a thirties depression era feel, If what you're looking for is US military uniforms, do an

Re: [h-cost] 1930's factory wear

2006-02-05 Thread Helen Pinto
I should have paid more attention to the title, but the search on 1930's strikes should also get you pictures of steel and auto workers. -Helen/Aidan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

[h-cost] Re: posture and cut, was williamsburg suit

2006-02-05 Thread Kahlara
I have been watching this topic with interest. Just my uneducated opinion, but I think there are a number of factors at play here. We are healthier and better fed than our ancestors so yes, our bodies are 'modern' and in many cases lager scaled, but life style has a great deal to do with

[h-cost] Magna Carta Clause 35

2006-02-05 Thread Kahlara
In my translation anyway it says... Clause 35. Let there be one measure.., and one width of cloth whether dyed, russet or halberjet, namely two ells within the selvedges. Dyed I understand. Russet? Somehow I don't think this refers to red cloth. And does anyone know

Re: [h-cost] 1930's factory wear

2006-02-05 Thread Land of Oz
Can anyone on the list point me to a source for period uniforms for the depression era? Or perhaps even abroad in the 1930s. I am doing a production of Urinetown, and we are going for a thirties depression era feel, http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/fsowhome.html photos from 1935-1945 in color

Re: [h-cost] Re: Cage crinolines: wire/steel hoops and casings query

2006-02-05 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi, Not that it is my period, and i dont want to interfer your disgussion, but i was thinking about the thin, narrow boning i used from Wissner for my red taffeta stays. This is only 4 mm. wide. Would that be something you could use for a crinoline cage? You would have to make many hoops for

Re: [h-cost] Magna Carta Clause 35

2006-02-05 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 17:08 05/02/2006, you wrote: In my translation anyway it says... Clause 35. Let there be one measure.., and one width of cloth whether dyed, russet or halberjet, namely two ells within the selvedges. Dyed I understand. Russet? Somehow I don't think this refers to red cloth.

Re: [h-cost] Re: Cage crinolines: wire/steel hoops and casings query

2006-02-05 Thread aquazoo
i was thinking about the thin, narrow boning i used from Wissner for my red taffeta stays. This is only 4 mm. wide. Would that be something you could use for a crinoline cage? You would have to make many hoops for this, but it surely would give it flexibility. I think Wissner does make

Re: [h-cost] Re: Cage crinolines: wire/steel hoops and casings query

2006-02-05 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 19:03 05/02/2006, you wrote: i was thinking about the thin, narrow boning i used from Wissner for my red taffeta stays. This is only 4 mm. wide. Would that be something you could use for a crinoline cage? You would have to make many hoops for this, but it surely would give it

[h-cost] Re: hoop steel...

2006-02-05 Thread cahuff
At 7:57 AM -0700 2/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never managed to find the watch spring that the originals were made from, and am no longer sure if it's made in large quantities any more (though if anybody knows otherwise, do let me know!) Though last time I used the narrowest flat steel

[h-cost] Re: Re: Cage crinolines: wire/steel hoops and casings query

2006-02-05 Thread Beth and Bob Matney
I haven't been following this thread, but this sounds very similar to what is known as fish tape used by electricians to fish (pull) a wire through a conduit (tubing). These are rolls of spring wire (flat with rounded edges) that come in a case with reel in 5'0', 100' 200' lengths.

[h-cost] Archaeological citation

2006-02-05 Thread Susan Carroll-Clark
Greetings-- I'm working on a group research project with several other folks, and we're trying to track down a more in-depth citation for some information. It's from the following book: Weinstein, Rosemary. Tudor London. London: Museum of London, 1994 ISBN: 0-11-290495-5 The book says this

Re: [h-cost] Re: Cage crinolines: wire/steel hoops and

2006-02-05 Thread katherine sanders
Thanks for all the help - Suzi - thanks for the link to your site: that crinoline is certainly the shape and style I am going for and if you've not had any quibbles from museums, there's no reason why I should from general M.o.t.Ps Deb, I didn't see your reply before it was included in a

[h-cost] h-cost digest 107

2006-02-05 Thread katherine sanders
Hello! Could someone please send me the digest 107? I can't find it in my in-box and Im worried I missed a message for me. Ta very much! Katherine A positive attitude may not solve all of your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort - Herm Albright

Re: [h-cost] h-cost digest 107

2006-02-05 Thread Robin Netherton
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006, katherine sanders wrote: Hello! Could someone please send me the digest 107? I can't find it in my in-box and Im worried I missed a message for me. Try checking recent messages at these sites: http://www.mail-archive.com/h-costume@mail.indra.com/maillist.html

Re: [h-cost] Re: Cage crinolines: wire/steel hoops and

2006-02-05 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 21:23 05/02/2006, you wrote: Thanks for all the help - Suzi - thanks for the link to your site: that crinoline is certainly the shape and style I am going for and if you've not had any quibbles from museums, there's no reason why I should from general M.o.t.Ps Katherine Talk to the people

Re: [h-cost] Archaeological citation

2006-02-05 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 21:21 05/02/2006, you wrote: Greetings-- I'm working on a group research project with several other folks, and we're trying to track down a more in-depth citation for some information. It's from the following book: Weinstein, Rosemary. Tudor London. London: Museum of London, 1994 ISBN:

Re: [h-cost] 1930's factory wear/Urinetown

2006-02-05 Thread Kelly Grant
What is this...the year for depression era Urinetown???We're doing the same sho for the final one of the season...we'll get the scetches next week! Kelly Bravery is something you can experience on the spur of the moment, faced with danger. To have courage, you must think about the dangers

Re: [h-cost] Re: Cage crinolines: wire/steel hoops and casings query

2006-02-05 Thread Ann Catelli
--- Katy Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Farthingale's has crin steel a Thread Covered Hoop Steel, I've never tried it but it looks much like what is in original cage hoops, don't know about the weight/stiffness. I've wanted to try it for a cage hoop or bustle if my budget ever allows.

[h-cost] Blocking a Wool Felt Hat

2006-02-05 Thread Wanda Pease
I'm going to try and make a Tudor Style tall hat with the pleated crown. I went to the local GoodWill and they had a hat that fitted perfectly of 100% wool felt. Problem is that it is a domed crown rather than square. Is there a way to steam that crown and get it fairly fat? I intend to play

RE: [h-cost] pants

2006-02-05 Thread Wanda Pease
Pants... You mean bloomers like they might have worn bicycling or underwear type pants? Wanda -Orig Does anybody have a pattern for 19th century women's pants? Thanks ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com