Re: [h-cost] Blackwork pattern sought
On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:12:30 -0700 (PDT) Julie jtkn...@jtknits.cts.com writes: I hope this isn't off topic - it *is* for a costume. I'm hoping someone here can help me out. I've misplaced the pattern for some blackwork that's in progress. I've checked everything I have at home and haven't turned it up. The pattern is a counted blackwork with acorns, oak leaves and trellis work that repeats in mirror image/left/right. It's not in Gostelow and not in the Blackwork Archives. I'm pretty sure it was from an online source. Everything else I've checked is a broken link. Any suggestions? Hi Julie. You might check www.dragonbear.com www.angelfire.com/band/sampler/osanna4.html http://elizabethancostume.net http://elizabethangeek.com Costume Review section, and articles http://www.janezimmerman.com/Needlework_History/Blackwork.pdf http://moas.atlantia.sca.org Go to 'embroidery' and look under 'blackwork' Hope this helps! :-) Arlys Small Business Tools Compete with the big boys. Click here to find products to benefit your business. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=VhBC3CrhG9vUn3GY3PPgYAAAJ1AvoIBeuuk_F0glj6oEWAQQAAYAAADNAAARMQA= ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Vinegar, yuck!
Let it air outside for a few days. Arlys On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:54:17 -0400 Michelle Plumb mpl...@wideopenwest.com writes: Hello, all. I purchased a lightweight denim jacket dyed a dark blue. It's lovely, but reeks of vinegar! I've washed it three times, and the smell lingers on. Any ideas? TIA, Michelle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume House Rescue Bill Passed $133,000 mortgage under $679/mo. Compare rates and save! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=3xW-P80fdV9C-Kza8dsVWgAAJ1AvoIBeuuk_F0glj6oEWAQQAAQFAAPiCz8AAAMlAAaTcQA= ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Creeping underskirt
Or an anti-static spray. Arlys On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:51:36 -0500 Alexandria Doyle garbaho...@gmail.com writes: Was it a static cling issue? Lotion rubbed light over the leg/stocking seems to help that alex On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Tania Gruning tania_g...@yahoo.com wrote: Hiya all. I hope you can all help me with a practical question. I have made 2 skirts from this pattern http://www.marquise.de/en/1900/schnitte/s1908_6.gif. it was easy and the result rather nice. 1 in red wool in a medium weight and the other in cotton broadcloth as an underskirt. My problem is that I have worn them today, and the cotton underskirt kept creeping up. What do I do to avoid that. put weights in the hem, make a another underskirt in a smoother fabric, don't wear wool/nylon stockings?. Hope you have some advice for me. Tania ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Healthcare Degrees Online On-Line Medical Billing Degrees. Get free information and Apply Today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=OWS_o7AAQmyjU-4hvV8emwAAJ1AvoIBeuuk_F0glj6oEWAQQAAQFAGQ7Xz4AAAMlABNlaQA= ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Black beads Princess Elizabeth image
Jet was also used. Jet beads from the late 15th or early 16th century have been recovered... . The source of the jet was probably Whitby in Yorkshire... . Jet--and amber--working waste has been found on the same site in York. Finished jet beads have been excacated in Oxford... . Jet is believed, according to a 12th century source, to have anaesthetising powers. From: Egan, Geoff and Frances Pritchard. _Dress Accessories 1150-1450_ (Museum of London series). Boydell Press, reprint 2002, p. 309. Arlys On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:28:28 -0400 Becky Rautine zearti...@hotmail.com writes: After all the discussion about the black beads in other portraits, I see the black squares in the Princess ELizabeth portrait as the black with a white spot like someone said. Could these be diamonds instead of onyx or some other black stones?The pearls are black here, but maybe the others are. One site that reproduces Renaissance jewelry has this as a white diamond instead of the black square on the necklace part. I'm making this complete outfit for my daughter. Are these suppose to be white diamonds instead of the black squares? I never thought about it until the recent eye-opening research on black pearls in paintings. Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tut orial_QuickAdd_062009 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Get your dream car or truck. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLa8saZLr0MIeHRTI03tTjpJ6r08vrThUA1b1BBya1A3g4Ksd3rJO/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] late Elizabethan headdress
Try googling Elizabethan geek She's got a great website. Arlys On Tue, 26 May 2009 16:37:18 -0700 Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com writes: I am looking for a picture or instructions for a late Elizabethan headdress. I do not want the French hood that covers the ears, rather I am looking for the fancy roll that sits further back on the head. I believe these were attached to a caul, but I'm not sure. Any advice/ideas/pictures/links would be appreciated. Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Save on Security Cameras. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTGTDRYHSmaZjEmEWDhOOb3jtvldOzA1mtFBDRS4JS30EY3bt6Znck/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] question re: headkerchiefs
Hi all. My SCA persona's appr. time is 1312, England. A few months ago, I got my very long hair cut short; love it--no regrets. Made a sizable donation to Locks of Love, a charity I would encourage you to consider if you are getting your long hair cut. Anyway, the problem: My hair is naturally very wavy and has a lot of bounce. My summer coif isn't heavy enough to keep my hair down. Might anyone know if women of this period wore linen headkerchiefs? I'm trying to stay away from turbans--things like that give me headaches. Any links would be hugely appreciated! Much thanks, Arlys Click to slash your phone bill by up to 90%. Discounted VoIP service http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTHbpcVHL0mcLMjCTut6ywTiNxtMZaTFunpxiLvHyxY2gh1LKf0740/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question re: headkerchiefs
On Wed, 27 May 2009 19:10:45 +0100 Anne anne.montgome...@googlemail.com writes: Could you describe more fully what you are terming a coif and a headkerchief? You bet! :-) Coif--the ubiquitous little cap-like thing everyone wore. Headkerchief--I suppose we'ld call them scarves nowadays. Take a square of fabric, fold it into a triangle, place on head, tie two points together in the back. Thanks! Arlys The classic style for early 1300s is with the hair in knobs, loops or columns at the temples, with one piece of cloth (wimple?) round the throat, under the chin and pulled up to the temples and another (veil?) draped over the top of the head. They would certainly be linen, but of whatever weight suits you best. (The hair can be false pieces on a headband, or omitted if necessary.) Jean Cynthia J Ley wrote: Hi all. My SCA persona's appr. time is 1312, England. A few months ago, I got my very long hair cut short; love it--no regrets. Made a sizable donation to Locks of Love, a charity I would encourage you to consider if you are getting your long hair cut. Anyway, the problem: My hair is naturally very wavy and has a lot of bounce. My summer coif isn't heavy enough to keep my hair down. Might anyone know if women of this period wore linen headkerchiefs? I'm trying to stay away from turbans--things like that give me headaches. Any links would be hugely appreciated! Much thanks, Arlys Click to slash your phone bill by up to 90%. Discounted VoIP service http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTHbpcVHL0mcLMjCTut6ywTi NxtMZaTFunpxiLvHyxY2gh1LKf0740/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Rabbit - was: What kind of fur would you use for this?
There are some surprising good faux furs out there as well. They look great and they're durable as all heck. My fake fur cloaks have seen a lot of hard wear and have been worn for decades, with decades left to go. The only thing I've needed to replace in all those years in the lining. Chances are you'll pay between $29-$35 dollars a yard, but they come on huge upholstery rolls. The furs can be easily cut into strips. The main thing is to brush them with your hand against the grain. The good furs will hardly shed at all, if at all. And they're a lot easier to keep clean. For my money, a great value. Just an option Arlys On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:28:05 -0500 sunshine.k.buch...@kp.org writes: Someone told me that rabbit (and cat) are one of the few furs that sheds and is a terrible mess? Anyone have that experience? Yes, rabbit sheds amazingly. However, it is a relatively cheap fur to learn how to work with fur on - especially if you look for fur coats on eBay or someplace like that ;-) You can get some of the other furs on eBay too; the older coats are inexpensive when compared to new/unused pelts, but fox fur still runs in the hundreds of dollars... *sigh* -sunny ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLaWx58jLmKaykUC3RfFTkHlPEqtQlzolqxOnOAVEGPoZ7NNOQ7z6/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Name That Scandinavian Handicraft
Are you talking about nalbinding? Arlys On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:42:00 -0800 Ulrika O'Brien ulrika.obr...@gmail.com writes: There is a type of handicraft formerly practiced in Scandinavia that is neither knitting nor crochet, but worked with (wool) yarn and a bone needle very like a tapestry needle. It's more historical/traditional than current I think, but I've seen exemplars and the work produced is very dense and tight -- looks a bit like a herringbone weave as I recall -- and is particularly suitable for heavy mittens. Does anyone know what I'm talking about, and if so, can you tell me what the technique is called and whether I can find information on how to do it anywhere? Thanks in advance, Ulrika ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Self Storage Options - Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTJwjVu7dl1lBf2X5DSrmpBatLlYWgFjxxiB0htLQZ70OJP3Lnj0tS/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] corset for a singer
Dame Regina Romsey made one for me--I'm a singer too, with quite a differential between full inhale and full exhale. She made me a barrel corset, to be worn under an Italian Ren gown. Worked perfectly. Arlys On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:37:28 -0800 (PST) Zuzana Kraemerova zkraemer...@yahoo.com writes: Hi, I have a very special question. My singing teacher asked me to sew a corset for her - she wants it as an undergarment for concerts, to make her look, I guess, more beautiful. She is a size 18-20. She would like a corset similar to the 1880s styles, but it doesn't have to be too complicated. But a proper corset with metal bones and front busk fastening and lacing etc. The point is, she needs to take a deep breath in the corset (when she breathes, her bust circumference increases up to 8cm more). And I have NO IDEA how that's going to work, because corsets are usually the same size or a bit smaller than your bust (and, certainly, your waist). The stupid thing is she has to breathe in the belly as well as in the upper ribcage (ehm, my knowledge of anatomy in English is poor, I don't know how's that king of breathing called. Simply means she will increase her bust as well as waist circumference when taking a deep breath.) Does any of you have some experience with corsets for singers? Or any ideas of where to search for information? I thought making one panel in the corset of some elastic, but that would definitely loose the sense of wearing a corset. But I think this must be possible to solve somehow, don't tell me 19th century singers wore no corsets... I also thought of trying an existing corset on her so that she can try out how she can sing, but I have no corsets in such a large size:-( Thanks for help, Zuzana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Click to make millions by owning your own franchise. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2THyQZFuN5DeK0P4RY4qJNfFxmXraGZXlyUjDW87OzORWb2/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] odd sideless
Sometimes they were fur. Arlys On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:41:06 EST albert...@aol.com writes: In a message dated 1/26/2009 10:39:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, c...@juno.com writes: It looks rather like a plaquet (sp?). Arlys * Yes...but didn't we call it a plastron in costume history? Maybe just the English for plaquet. Isn't it usually covered in embroidery, jewels, plate and stuff like that? **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir= http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26b cd=De cemailfooterNO62) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Free information - Learn about Hardwood Floors. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2eFATjZ1KtzPdodbomEHgpD9uPbKNzGgRzd2s0iGk9GI0LW/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] odd sideless
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:49:10 -0600 otsisto otsi...@socket.net writes: I was emailing something to another person and I guess I put the wrong url for the statue. whoops, bahahahd me. Here's the correct url showing full statue, front. The musicians here enjoyed the link. :-) Arlys (music-type Laurel) Click to get a free auto insurance quotes from top companies. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2PNPXN31ZmPELLwg2ReFZTWbnHGHzLXdwvcPp922zaDRU8Q/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] tape stickem problem
Can you steam it off? Arlys On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:26:08 -0800 (PST) REBECCA BURCH ctrvlyf...@sbcglobal.net writes: Anybody have any ideas how to remove duct tape stickum from ultra suede? I have a beautiful throw, dark blue ultra suede on one side, long pile on the other. Eldest son used it to cover a Nagahide chair with duct tape repairs. End result is that body heat melted the tape stickum which is now in spots on the suede side (thank goodness - imagine if it was stuck to the pile!!!) I have tried pulling the residue off with new pieces of tape with no success. I am hesitant to try Goo Gone or other solvents due to the 100% poly fiber content. I want to clean it, not melt it. It is too large to put in the freezer, although now I think about it I could just put it out on the front porch - it was minus 10 yesterday AM. Any suggestions gratefully accepted. Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA The only twelve steps I'm interested in are the ones between the flat folds and the brocades. --Anonymous Costumer-- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Right on time. Click now for great project management software! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1bIWojWjngEZRL2O9yax8tdTLs7gGtojFFrRHTxPd41u24I/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Yellowed silk
I could be hallucinating, but I recall reading somewhere that vinegar or lemon juice were sometimes used to lighten hair. Arlys On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:00:07 -0500 Carol Kocian aqua...@patriot.net writes: On Jan 4, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Robin Netherton wrote: It can take a little while for the bleach to do its work. I suppose that is why you can use certain (weak) bleach products to alter the color of your hair and not end up bald ... but it's certainly not good for your hair. Become a Medical Transcriptionist. Click here to find schedules designed to fit your life. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2bxfk1rDGZTn84ljoEVT1IfqT2uyRQ3VNSymZo1ELXMOmys/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Which end of the thread?
Go with the grain of the thread. Run your fingers down the thread one way, then down the other way. The path of least resistance is the grain. Going against the grain can damage the thread! Arlys On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:25:22 - Viv Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is not exactly historical but it is about hand-sewing, so... I have always thought that you thread the end that comes off the spool first through the needle. But today I was reading one of those 'useful hints' books which said you should thread the other end first to prevent knots! Any thoughts? Viv. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Click here to find the perfect picture with our powerful photo search features. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1aBnjXCzY3yijFTvczl70qOeFMS88BnzHO8Q88M6aA1Zru4/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Which end of the thread?
It weakens it, because what's really happening is micro-fraying when you go against the grain. Arlys On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:11:07 -0600 Alexandria Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know if it damages the thread, but I know that watching the way the twist goes into the needle means there is less knotting and frustration when I'm embroidering with silk. alex On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Cynthia J Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go with the grain of the thread. Run your fingers down the thread one way, then down the other way. The path of least resistance is the grain. Going against the grain can damage the thread! Arlys On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 21:25:22 - Viv Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is not exactly historical but it is about hand-sewing, so... I have always thought that you thread the end that comes off the spool first through the needle. But today I was reading one of those 'useful hints' books which said you should thread the other end first to prevent knots! Any thoughts? Viv. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Click here to find the perfect picture with our powerful photo search features. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1aBnjXCzY3yijFTvczl70qO eFMS88BnzHO8Q88M6aA1Zru4/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- I'm buying this fabric/book now in case I have an emergency...you know, having to suddenly make presents for everyone, sickness,flood, injury, mosquito infestations, not enough silk in the house, it's Friday... ;) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Click here to find experienced pros to help with your home improvement project. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2eRIs2Z19aBTb2EoMXziS5zIg0csD3jC1cN7uLASMDmq8By/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Devil's Cloth
More info, please? Arlys On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:15:17 -0800 (PST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What a coincidence! I didn't know the book existed until I saw a used copy today at Powell's in Chicago. If you live in the area and want to save on shipping, you might want to see if it's still there (2850 N. Lincoln) Carol Mitchell Costume Midwest http://groups.yahoo.com/group/costumemidwest/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Let great B to B marketing solutions propel your brand to new heights! Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3norRi1TW5LJpZx6lWdPp35M0EXgsLl7IIFrG5mQBHFL4tTy/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] MEDIEVAL ARCHEOLOGY
On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 19:59:04 + JAMES OGILVIE [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In celebration of the Society for Medieval Archeology's 50th aniversary, the first 50 volumes of the journal Medieval Archeology have been placed online for free viewing at http://ads.ahds.ac.uk/catalogue/library/med_arch/ There is as list of them by years and I just clicked on 1984 at random to find a 30 page article on late Saxon textile finds in the City of London! Where exactly did you find these? thanks, Arlys Click here to find the rental car that fits your needs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nMUolgWTkTlLhW6h3rl913c6HgNbRmfA31FsuP1E9Oacx12/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Curious about headdress - Arabic?
There was an interesting article in an issue of TI last year about how to wrap turbans, with pics. Arlys On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:26:02 -0600 Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Saragrace Knauf wrote: I am watching a program on the Koran, and see several types of men's head dress. One with a white cloth and then a black rope circlet of two rounds. It looks like marine rope, but this seems unlikely. Anyone know anything about it? Also, there are some simple turban like head dress, both simply white and blackanyone know how to wrap them? The red and white, or black and white checkered scarves are called kaffiyeh. The rope bands that hold them in place are called agal. There are many ways to wear the keffiyeh, the color and they way it is wrapped often depend on the wearer's nationality or ethnic origin. They are only worn by men. The simplest way to wear one is to fold it in half to make a triangle, and drape it with the folded edge across the forehead. My father brought one home as a souvenier from working in Saudi Arabia many years ago. The plain black and plain white turbans are made from very long lengths of narrow woven cotton. My husband works with a man who wears one. He graciously allowed me to borrow one for a few days. The cotton was very thin, and I was told the way to wear it was to just start wrapping it around your head until you got it all covered. It was horrendously long, but I forget how many yards. I suppose if you grow up in that culture you learn some tricks to wrapping it so it looks nice. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume What's the best for Internet Security? Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mEWr18RoVRMCT0MnNlYUmMRac1D3xo8nQllrypJf4TOhFc8/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] fabric search
Tried Pendleton Wool? Arlys On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:07:00 -0300 SPaterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you tried a Tartan shop? Google Tartan Fabric and you may get a hit or two...but it may be $$ Sarah Paterson - Original Message - I am searching for wool (coat or blanket weight) in a red or blue plaid. I'd also accept heavy weight flannel in red or blue plaid. I've looked through all the plaids and the wools at these vendors: fabric.com denverfabric.com joann.com hancock fabrics.com trimfabrics.com as well as the local Joann and Hobby Lobby. We found the perfect *color* plaid at Joann, but the fabric is a slippery, stiff taffeta which won't do. At this point, I'd even buy an appropriately colored polarfleece product, but that would be a last choice. Does anyone have a suggestion about where else to search? Thanks! Denise B ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Need cash? Click to get an emergency loan, bad credit ok http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mKmy0ZDraSWZ7OV85YyBzKY8IVTgKuBqxiQhzmgF5VXB4n2/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Crespines--the hair net kind
If you're looking for snoods (what's the difference between a snood and a crespine??), check out www.pillagedvillage.com They're woven nylon and will fit just about anyone. Also easy to embellish, if you wish. Sell at $4 each, or 3 for $10, many colors available. Arlys (not affiliated, just a satisfied customer) On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:27:31 -0400 Susan Carroll-Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dawn wrote: Joan Mielke wrote: Does anyone know of a commercial source for actual net crespines, as opposed to the crocheted ones? Like these? http://www.instawares.com/hairnet-nylon-28in-box.401-dhn500bk.0.7.htm You might be able to find singles (or small quantities) at a good beauty supply, or even restaurant supply shop. Other than these nylon-type nets, I have never seen netted hairnets sold anywhere. I make my own, and everyone else I know who has one either does the same or gets them from someone else who does. I highly recommend learning how to do it if you'd like nets made from coloured thread. Once you've learned the basic knot, it's a surprisingly fast and easy thing to do. Susan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Stuck in a dead end job?? Click to start living your dreams by earning an online degree. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nNfaMMa0waOi7oA7cph0eZCc7d0M8hMRHhduSOsWxCQCFEU/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Italian Ren gowns and purses/pouches
Thanks! That is exactly what I needed! :-) Arlys On Sat, 3 May 2008 13:59:13 -0500 otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you are talking about 1500s the you might look for pocket pouches. http://vads.ahds.ac.uk/images/PHS/floral_pocket.jpg To my understanding these were wore under their skirts. It is believed that the skirts had a slit in them for easy access or in some cases where the pocket is between the under skirt and the over skirt, the over skirt would be hiked up for access. Though here http://katerina.purplefiles.net/garb/diaries/Kat%27s%20Soccaccia.html they seem to be on the outside. Late 1400s there are some paintings that show that the pouch is worn under the over garb and access was as with the pocket. 1. Take with grain o' salt as I have not thoroughly researched this. 2. Please note that this is not a SCA list and some here might not know what SCA is. :) 3. Have you asked on the Italian Ren yahoo groups list? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Italian_Renaissance_Costuming/ De -Original Message- Hi all! Got a question I was hoping you good folks could help me with. How did Italian Ren women carry their pouches if not in hand? Did they wear a belt of some sort? Carry it under the gown, accessible through a dress slit? Any advice greatly appreciated! :-) much thanks, Arlys, clueless in An Tir ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Italian Ren gowns and purses/pouches
Hi all! Got a question I was hoping you good folks could help me with. How did Italian Ren women carry their pouches if not in hand? Did they wear a belt of some sort? Carry it under the gown, accessible through a dress slit? Any advice greatly appreciated! :-) much thanks, Arlys, clueless in An Tir ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Standard reference books on embroidery history?
On Thu, 01 May 2008 08:18:45 -0500 Catherine Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pretty much everything that Jane said below :). I would add George W. Digby's Elizabethan Embroidery (Faber Faber, 1963) for a good broader perspective on blackwork and embroidery in the latter 16th C. Mamluk is a MUST! I don't have the titles in front of me but I think a couple of books by Kathleen Epstein/Staples touch on this too. Catherine It's my understanding that Thomas (?) Trevelon's book is being re-issued, and it is an amazing--if pricey--source. Jane Ashelford's book on Elizabethan dress (sorry, been up 5 minutes and can't remember the title) is a wonderful source for the contexts of embroidery. Arlys Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Sorry, had to laugh
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:05:11 -0500 Genie Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 05:35 AM 4/30/2008, you wrote: Several people from here in AnTir (SCA Kingdom including the Pacific Northwest/Northwet of the United States) Northwet? Is that a reference to Washington and Oregon? Please say you did this on purpose? Hi Genie. She did it on purpose, and yes, that's exactly what she meant. :-) In An Tir, we have a heraldic blazon for it: An Tir sky proper, meaning gray and more than likely something wet is falling from it. ;) Arlys LOL Genie Who lived in Washington for three years and loved it! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Sorry, had to laugh
The minute after this is the final phase of the cycle: steaming. ;-) Arlys On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:49:15 -0700 Wanda Pease [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Pacific NorthWet is pretty standard alternate for Pacific Northwest :-) I'm in Portland, Oregon where it is currently hailing, raining, sunning all in the same 5 minutes. Since my migraines are pressure triggered, I'm pretty miserable even though I really love the green this produces as well as the coolness! Wanda (SCA Kingdom including the Pacific Northwest/Northwet of the United States) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] How Many Costume Books/Magazines/Photos Do You Own
Hi Fran-- Why is it depressing that many of us are in the SCA? In order to participate in the SCA, a person has to wear a reasonable attempt at pre-17th C. clothing. A lot of us find there is challenge and fun in going beyond the minimum. I think that it is great that so many go the extra mile for their hobby. Monica Spence In Society known as: Baroness Catriona MacDuff OL,OP,CM,CSC,KoE,QoC,PA,PA,AoA,OSF,OSS East Kingdom I'm with Her Excellency. The reasonable attempt does two important things: 1) it doesn't scare off the new folks. We figure once you're here, you should be given time to see what's out there, and make your own choices. 2) it doesn't scare off the new folks. We're not re-enactors, having to come in with a full kit. Arlys -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 3:33 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] How Many Costume Books/Magazines/Photos Do You Own What I find both interesting and depressing in this discussion is that (a) judging from the books discussed, almost all the people who collect and spend much money on costume books are in the SCA and (b) a lot of people would rather spend money on fabric and sewing machines. Fran Lavolta Press Books on Costuming http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Belt query: was Source for medieval belts/buckles?
I've used both Fettered Cock and Billie and Charlie's. Nice stuff. FC pieces are generally a bit heavier than BC's. Excellent customer service from both, very nice work. Mark de Gaulker's work is stellar (he's a fellow An Tirian). He puts out a lot of jeweler's quality work as well, a little pricey at times but so worth it! Belt questions: I have a very nice long leather belt that I bought from one of our local merchants. I'm going to use saddle soap to soften it up, but it is quite stiff--is there anything else I can do, short of having my dogs chew on it? Also, how long would a medieval lady's belt be? I need to trim it but am unsure of how much to take off. Thanks! Arlys On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:41:07 -0500 (CDT) Pixel, Goddess and Queen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Fettered Cock, which others have recommended. Billy and Charlie's, which others have recommended. I would add Gaukler's Medieval Wares to that list: http://www.medievalwares.com/ for bronze belt hardware. He is extremely knowledgeable, and often his pieces are direct casts of originals in his collection. I would add some other notes on 14th c. belts--frequently the belt hardware *was* pewter. Much of the belt hardware in Dress Accessories, for instance, is various pewter alloys. Also, Historic Enterprises: http://www.historicenterprises.com/cart.php although again, no leather, just the hardware. Tandy Leather for undyed belt blanks: http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/index.asp Yours, Jen/pixel/Margaret On Sun, 13 Apr 2008, Robin Netherton wrote: Relaying a request from a friend: Can anyone recommend, ideally from personal experience, a good supplier of medieval (say, 14th-15th c.) belts and/or buckles? My friend is familiar with Revival Clothing, which sells Talbot's leather goods, but would like to know his range of options before purchasing. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Belt query: was Source for medieval belts/buckles?
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:16:26 -0500 (CDT) Pixel, Goddess and Queen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What time period of medieval? What are you wearing it with? Generally, length depends on whether or not you're tripping on it and what your socio-economic class is. The more money (or rank) you have, the longer and fancier your belt. Early 1300's, England, upper middle class. Tripping bad. ;-) The best thing I've found to soften leather is use, or you can treat it with mink oil and work it a lot. Or let your dogs chew on it, but then you'll have toothmarks. ;-) My husband suggested that I gum it (dentures, y'see), but retracted it when he saw the dirty look I gave him. ;) Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] book lust G
David Brown Book Company/Oxbow Books carries it too. I can't remember what they're currently charging. www.oxbowbooks.com Arlys On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:11:42 -0400 monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ouch! Try Michael Shemansky Bookseller (online) for MdF. He usually includes shipping in his prices, I think. It is about $100 for the book and it was in his mostt recent catalogue. He KNOWS about us costumers. I told him of the book's popularity when he questioned me why so many people were asking about it. I plan to read it --again-- before the Janet Arnold Costume Collequium in Florence in November. QEWU is about $250 the last time I saw it advertised anywhere. Thet is a lot more scarce. Monica in NYC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Julie Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] book lust G I ran into a copy of Moda de Firenze (the Italian Renaissance costuming book) at a Ren Faire this weekend. I was all set to add it to my collection but was shocked at the price. The last time I looked it was going for about $80 U.S. Yesterday it was priced at $148. Has this book really gone up that much in a year or two? Is there another less costly vendor? BTW, on a simiilar note, how much is Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe Unlock'd going for now? Thanks Julie in San Diego ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT-ish... Tudor and Elizabethan printing
Google Jeff Lee's website Jeff has some lovely late period fonts you can download for free. Arlys On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:15:02 -0700 Andrew T Trembley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I need some help (or you can translate this to I'm feeling too lazy to do the research myself right now). I'm looking for two things: Fonts: anybody know any good renaissance-y fonts? I'm looking for something that is both relatively period-accurate for Tudor and Elizabethan printed books, broadsheets and handbills, and something that the less-than-educated viewer will think Oooh, old! when they see it. Free preferred, but feel free to recommend commercial fonts. OpenType preferred, but feel free to recommend TrueType or PostScript. Tudor Elizabethan printed things: Books, broadsheets, handbills and signs. Yes, of course, facsimiles preferred, and online sources preferred. At work I've got access to a number of academic online collections, so feel free to recommend restricted services; I might be able to get to them. Andy Trembley ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] DBBC; neat info on fabric stabilizers
Go on the website and get on their mailing list if you want hard copy. I believe you can also view the flyers online. I went looking for info on fabric stabilizers today and bumped into a really cool site which matches stabilizers to fabric. Check it out: http://www.emlibrary.com/EL/elprojects/holder.aspx?page=PR1153 Arlys On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:01:13 -0400 Catherine Olanich Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Monday 17 March 2008, Joan Jurancich wrote: I thought that members of this list might be interested in these new book leaflets. And so at least some of us are... though I too get e-mails from DBBC advising me of their sales events; I wonder why I didn't get these. Anyway, thanks! -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You affect the world by what you browse.-- Tim Berners-Lee ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] A question of height....
Queen Bess had a discussion with James Melville, Mary Stuart's ambassador, in 1564 basically grilling him with details all about her rival. She asked if Mary were taller, to which Melville quickly replied that she was. Bess replied, Then she is too high. I myself am neither too high nor too low. (First Elizabethan_Carolly Erickson, 218). Mary Stuart was almost six feet tall. (Ibid., 200). Arlys On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:01:03 -0600 Exstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've seen several definitive answers on this (and other) lists, but I'm afraid that they were all different. The one that stuck in my head best (I think a letter was quoted) was 5'7 with her cousin being too tall at 5'9, but of course that means absolutely nothing, since a) I could be remembering wrong, and b) even if I'm remembering right, that doesn't mean that the answer was right. A web search, by the way, turns up 5'3-5'5 as the most common heights given, for whatever that's worth. If she was 5'3 near the end of her life it wouldn't be odd for her to have been 5'5 at her tallest, given the shrinking effects of age/osteoporosis. -E Non-Answers-R-Us House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Spanish flu
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:25:28 + Hilary Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Spanish influenza pandemic killed at least 20 million people worldwide after world war I, even in isolated corners, and some estimates put it as high as 100 million. It was the worst mass illness since the Black Death. A friend who does research on malaria once told me it originated in Europe, which was a surprise because I'd always thought it was tropical. Apparently it was unknown in tropical areas until European settlers reached there. He also said that it's looking like wormwood - active ingredient in absinthe - is as effective as quinine for easing attacks. But I'm not sure what his sources are. I was very suprised to learn that malaria is also fairly prevalent in Oregon. Apparently it has something to do with the rain forests. Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] seeking 15th-16th c. Portuguese Naval Officers uniforms
Please send any further info on this thread to Ingus at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Great info--much thanks! :-) Arlys On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:57:55 -0500 Melanie Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would be very surprised if there were actually uniforms at that time. Most formal military uniforms started in the 18th century AFAIK. If you're interested in what Portuguese people wore to sail ships, there are some interesting images created by Japanese artists when the Portuguese got to Japan in the late 16th. If you're interested in that, let me know and I'll try to figure out where the info is. Melanie Schuessler On Jan 9, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Cynthia J Ley wrote: Images, possible sources for patterns--anything would be very helpful! Much thanks, Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] seeking 15th-16th c. Portuguese Naval Officers uniforms
Images, possible sources for patterns--anything would be very helpful! Much thanks, Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Comments on The Tudors
Yes, the sweat really happened. Try googling sweating sickness for more info. Arlys On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:37:33 -0800 Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 12:19 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote: I rented the disks from Blockbuster this weekend and had a couple of questions/comments. There is substantial mention of a sweating sickness that killed thousands during Henry VIII's time. What was that? No mention of buboes like for plague or marks like smallpox. Did this really happen or was it just part of their story? It was very contagious and people were told to burn all clothing bedding. I believe consumption is tuberculosis, right? Any other old disease names with modern equivalents I should know? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christmas dinner story...waaaay OT
Ok, Albert--that one needed a Norking through the Nose warning! LOL!!! Arlys On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:26:46 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This was posted on the AOL Classical Music boards [we talk about everything]. * This is an article submitted to a 1999 Louisville Sentinel contest to find out who had the wildest Christmas dinner. This won first prize. [snip] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Used book sources
You might also go through alibris.com. They go through major book searches, and the prices are extremely reasonable. Arlys On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:08:51 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another used book source is half.com, which is the non-auction branch of e-Bay. It's not great for the rarer costume books that we listmembers like, but it's worth checking first. This is where people unload books for $2 to $10 or so, and they have good descriptions for condition. -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Increasing bra sizes (long)
Have any of you checked out Caccique bras? I swear by them. They seem to be able to comfortably fit anyone and come in a variety of styles. The big selling point for me is that while I'm not all that busty, I have a rib cage that belongs on a football player, and could never find bras that fit right until I found them. Lane Bryant carries the line. Arlys On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:46:50 +0100 Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lastly, one of the principal problems with cup sizes is that everyone's bust is not shaped the same way. Some are completely rounded, some have more tissue underneath and to the sides, etc. That is why if you find a bra manufacturer that you like, stick with them. Most manufacturers do not change their cup sizing molds for years. Playtex is now making some of its bras in half cup sizes - newspaper article last week in England. However, needless to say the larger sizes are not included, and I will have to continue to take tucks in some of my bras to make them fit. I could really do with a C and a half! Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT: Standard American Diet
Greetings De. I'm a few inches taller than you and weigh about the same. I have an autoimmune disorder and have to be on thyroid replacement meds (mine basically died) and some other pretty heavy duty drugs (all works, I'm fine), but my drs have all said that it is going to be very difficult for me to lose weight; that the best thing I can do for myself is to be fit, strong, and healthy, and not to sweat the weight issue. Eating healthy is always excellent, but it won't always fix the problems. Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] More info on my lectures in Oregon
Hi Robin! Unfortunately I can't come owing to a prior commitment, but I hope Regina will let me read her notes! ;) Much thanks to you and Tammie (in An Tir, Viscountess Laurellin) and the organizers for this wonderful opportunity! Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Looking for picture link
Hi all. I wonder how much, if any, of the various motifs came from emblem books. Any thoughts, all you Elizabethanophiles? Arlys On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:41:41 -0500 otsisto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From this site http://www.marileecody.com/eliz1-images.html Elizabeth's gown is embroidered with English wildflowers, thus allowing the queen to pose in the guise of Astraea, the virginal heroine of classical literature. Her cloak is decorated with eyes and ears, implying that she sees and hears all. Her headdress is an incredible design decorated lavishly with pearls and rubies and supports her royal crown. The pearls symbolize her virginity; the crown, of course, symbolizes her royalty. Pearls also adorn the transparent veil which hangs over her shoulders. Above her crown is a crescent-shaped jewel which alludes to Cynthia, the goddess of the moon. (De: Most say Diana) A jeweled serpent is entwined along her left arm, and holds from its mouth a heart-shaped ruby. Above its head is a celestial sphere. The serpent symbolizes wisdom; it has captured the ruby, which in turn symbolizes the queen's heart. In other words, the queen's passions are controlled by her wisdom. The celestial sphere echoes this theme; it symbolizes wisdom and the queen's royal command over nature. Elizabeth's right hand holds a rainbow with the Latin inscription 'Non sine sole iris' ('No rainbow without the sun'). The rainbow symbolizes peace, and the inscription reminds viewers that only the queen's wisdom can ensure peace and prosperity. Elizabeth was in her late sixties when this portrait was made, but for iconographic purposes she is portrayed as young and beautiful, more than mortal. In this portrait, she is ageless. De -Original Message- Note also that this is not intended to show a real outfit: while elements of it may actually have existed, the Queen is shown here as if she was costumed for a masque. The eyes and ears mantle is not the sort of thing that would be worn on any other occasion, I think. :) OChris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] easy to care for plants: was Re: coffee
Heather and wallflower are lovely too, and very easy to care for. The purple heather that you find in the PacNWet blooms in the spring and fall. Plant it in peat moss, see that it's watered once a weekand feed it with a general plant food every few months. It puts out a beautiful cloverlike flower and the bees love it. excellent if you live in an area hit by bee blight--help those little creatures recover. Wallflower is a bush with thin leaves and throws out beautiful stalks of blooms. Plant it in regular soil, and care for as you would heather. Again, bees love it. Prune both plants back from time to time--heather for shaping (as it grows, it becomes excellent ground cover) and the wallflower stalks back to the bush level as the blooms die off. It also covers ground well. It likes medium to full sunlight; my heather grows in a mostly shaded area and doesn't seem to mind. Enjoy your beautiful garden and the compliments! Arlys On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 09:05:19 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 8/21/2007 4:42:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then you should try Cannas And daylilies. Talk about maintenance free! And they come is some amazing varieties, not just the tawny ditch lily. Check out this vendor! _http://www.oakesdaylilies.com/supplier/home.php?id=s000_ (http://www.oakesdaylilies.com/supplier/home.php?id=s000) Of course the actual blooms only last a day so you can't really cut them and bring them inside. But they bloom day after day, especially if you water them when they 1st start coming up in the spring. They spread too. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Save the date -- Oregon lecture event
I took the first 3 lectures listed here, plus Robin's sideless surcoat class, and they and she are AWESOME!! :-D Also of note, if anyone's going to be in the Portland OR area the weekend prior--the Rivers campus of the University of Ithra will be hosting a Roving To Rainment Ithra Oct 13-14. For more information, check back at www.ithra.antir.sca.org The info will be going up soon. All classes are pre-registration, and you will be able to register online. It's going to be a great week for costuming, folks! Robin, do you know if people are going to be able to register for the separate lectures? Arlys, Regent, Rivers Ithra On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:41:19 -0500 (CDT) Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (OK to forward this post to individuals and other lists.) For those who may be interested: I'll be doing a day of lectures in Eugene, Oregon, on Saturday, October 20. The official announcement is due out soon, and I'll update the list when it's posted, but I figured some people might need the extra notice. I'll be speaking on these topics: -- The Gothic Fitted Dress -- The Greenland Gored Gown -- The Fifteenth-Century V-neck Gown -- When Medieval Meets Victorian: The Roots of Modern Costume Sources -- Saintly Inspiration: Using Medieval Religious Figures for Costume Research (I realize many of you have already seen some of these lectures, but then, apparently plenty of people haven't, as this was what the hosting group requested!) This is half of a two-day event. On Sunday, October 21, the speaker will be Tammie Dupuis of The Renaissance Tailor. I do not know her topics, I'm afraid. I have no idea what the fee will be or whether you pay for the two days separately or both together. When the announcement comes, we'll all find out. However, if you want to be on the waiting list and get direct notification, you can send a request to Jamie Parker, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . More when I know more. == Robin Netherton Editor, Medieval Clothing and Textiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] How do I make a removable leg cast?
Never tried this, but could you not use some of the thinner foam padding, cover it with cotton, and hide any fastenings (velcro, snaps, whatever) in it? Paint it to taste? I'm probably not explaining this well, but my thought is that plaster is heavy and can be uncomfortable. As for moving in it--it's why they call it acting. Arlys Denise wrote: OH YUCK!! 6 weeks' (or more) worth of dead skin cells and dried sweat. Please don't go there. What she said! ICK! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Headwear to go with Gothic Fitted Dresses
Hi all! Last year, my vocal consort was entirely outfitted in GFD's for our winter performances (thanks for the great lecture series, Robin!) :-D This year, we'ld like to add appropriate headwear. Might anyone be able to suggest some links or bits of wisdom? Thanks! Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Headwear to go with Gothic Fitted Dresses
Not really. We do medieval and Ren music from England, Italy, France, and Spain, so it's more of a general look we're aiming for. Just nothing that covers the ears though. Thanks! :-) Arlys The dress style spans 100 years and several countries, and headdress changed by place and time. Do you have a tighter focus on where your particular GFDs and your performance impression fit within that? --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: batiste weight linen
Ooo yum! :-D Who? Thanks! Your note re: splitting the silk thread was very interesting and a definate keeper! Arlys On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:20:17 +0200 Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have also a supplier of very fine batiste linnen. My one is 100 % linnen. But its very expensive, no bargains here, you have to pay for it! I have 3 meters waiting for a new shirt with cotton lace trimmings. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Kathy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:06 PM Subject: [h-cost] Re: batiste weight linen Hi De, That *might* be the cambric I found. It's at least as light as batiste, if not moreso. I can only get it wholesale and have to buy in bulk. In North America, I get it from Ulster Linen. I believe they also have a parent company somewhere in the UK. Kathy Ermine, a lion rampant tail nowed gules charged on the shoulder with a rose Or barbed, seeded, slipped and leaved vert (Fieldless) On a rose Or barbed vert a lions head erased gules. Its never too late to be who you might have been. -George Eliot Tosach eólais imchomarc. - Questioning is the beginning of knowledge. Where the spirit does not work with the hand, there is no art. -Leonardo da Vinci Once upon a time there was a discussion on batiste weight linen and a source was posted. I thought I saved the URL but I can't find it in my link files. Could someone with the link please post it and post (if you remember) the name of that type of linen as I know it isn't batiste. Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Order of the Phoenix
Hi Harry Potter fans! may we come to a concensus here and now about the last book, due to be released in the US July 21? Please, no discussing it on the public list for at least a month! No spoilers, ok? thanks! Arlys, another fan On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:22:52 -0700 zelda crusher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Only very low, fushia heels! I think her sense of height, which I didn't notice that much, might come from camera angles, and the fact that she stands on a dias to teach while the students are seated, and such. I'm not sure if there was a conscious effort to make her look tall and commanding. I didn't think she looked tall at all in the movie. What I found so interesting is that I, at least, don't usually associate pink with a mean character. I think that and the kittens on the wall and her constant smiling were intended to point up the fact that she was the evil-that-thinks-itself-good. Either that or pink is the new black, lol! Laurie ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ http://newlivehotmail.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] David Brown Book Company Fall releases
Yeah, ok--BAD ARLYS!!! BAD, BAD, BAD!!! Feel better now? Me either. ;) Had a question re: Eleanor of Toledo's gown--is her dress appliqued and embroidered, or? Some books of interest. For full info, check out their website and/or request a catalog. www.oxbowbooks.com Moda a Firenze 1540-1580, reprinted 2007, 99.50. Dress at the Court of King Henry VIII by Maria Hayward. A detailed study. Trade pb $96.00; hb 228. The Bertier-Delgarde Collection of Crimean Jewellery in the British Museum and Related Material by Julia Andrasi. A study of medieval jewelry of the Crimea. Pb $60.00. Late Antique and Medieval Gems--Jeffrey Spier. Covers through the Renaissance. Hb $297.00. a very non-apologetic Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Medieval gold thread
Have you seen Jane Lemon's _Metal Thread Embroidery_? Gorgeous book, lots of historic bits, very helpful to anyone wanting to do this type of work. Publisher info is: London, B.T.Batsford, 2004. This is a brand new edition. Lots of color plates. $24.95 trade paperback. Arlys On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 11:11:03 +0200 (CEST) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ingrid_G=2E_Storr=F8?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, otsisto wrote: Will this help? http://www.sallymilner.com.au/framedetail.php?Book_ID=249 http://www.vam.ac.uk/vastatic/microsites/1220_gothic/craftsperson.php http://medieval.webcon.net.au/technique_goldwork.html Thank you! The book looks scrumptious. :) Do you have it? I'm wondering if there's enough info relevant for my period to warrant the cost of buying it for this particular project. Ingrid -- This email has been scanned for viruses spam by Domenebutikken - www.domenebutikken.no Denne e-posten er sjekket for virus spam av Domenebutikken - www.domenebutikken.no ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Medieval gold thread
Have fun! I had to bring a towel. ;) Arlys On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 17:07:41 +0200 (CEST) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ingrid_G=2E_Storr=F8?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 4 Jul 2007, Cynthia J Ley wrote: Have you seen Jane Lemon's _Metal Thread Embroidery_? Gorgeous book, lots of historic bits, very helpful to anyone wanting to do this type of work. Publisher info is: London, B.T.Batsford, 2004. This is a brand new edition. Lots of color plates. $24.95 trade paperback. That sounds great! I found it at $18.21 from Amazon, which is cheap enough to buy just to check it out anyway. My copy should be on its way soon, yay! Thanks. :) Ingrid -- This email has been scanned for viruses spam by Domenebutikken - www.domenebutikken.no Denne e-posten er sjekket for virus spam av Domenebutikken - www.domenebutikken.no ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Luttrell Psalter Period Query
I think it's artistic license. Arlys On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:08:54 +0100 Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On behalf of a costuming colleague, as I don't know much about this period I have a query about 14th century hose. Some of the illustrations in the Psalter show men wearing hose without shoes or boots. Can you direct me to any information about this practice - or am I just misinterpreting the images? Can anyone help - I will pass on information. Also, can anyone remind me how one joins please - my colleague would like to join us. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Latest project, red and black
Warmest greetings and congratulations! :-D When is your elevation going to be? You'll look stunning. :-) Arlys, one of your soon-to-be Laurel cousins in An Tir On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:58:50 +1200 michaela de bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello all, (Sorry if this goes through twice, it appears as if my first mail is stuck in my sent folder in gmail) As mentioned in May I was asked to join the Order of the Laurel in the SCA and have been working on (and stressing over) my gown for the ceremony. I have at least got images and progress to show, but won't have much more until after as time is pressing (I wear it a week tomorrow) and there probably won't be time for uploading and editing of images. It feels a little weird posting about an unfinished project;) I am writing up my documentation at the same time so I should have that after the event too. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Hermann_tom_Ring_001.jpg Inspiration portrait. http://pinkdiamond.livejournal.com/tag/midwinter For a reverse chronological order of everything so far, Photos of progress so far: http://pinkdiamond.livejournal.com/728885.html#cutid1 Kranz (wreath), skirt laid flat and sleeves in pieces, testing fit of bodice http://pinkdiamond.livejournal.com/736609.html Fit of bodice with guards and the pearling of my Haube (caul) and how much I had to undo... I'm worried about the underskirt and ruffs not being done at this stage, but everything else is under control. Except my ceremony. Which I need to organise later today. Michaela (SCA Willemyne van Nymegen) http://glittersweet.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Need a term...
I wonder if it's someone's derivation of 'paniered' slops. As in 'paned'. Arlys On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:54:28 +1000 Elizabeth Walpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: Melanie Schuessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 4:23 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Need a term... I've never heard of pansied slops. I wonder where the name came from. Aha--another online reference says it came from Winter and Savoy's book, which is almost completely untrustworthy. I would treat this term with skepticism until a 16th-century reference can be found--does anyone have one? Just curious, Melanie to me it looks like a typo for pained slops, where the typo first turned up would be interesting to track down. Elizabeth Elizabeth Walpole Canberra Australia ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au http://au.geocities.com/amiperiodornot/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] MCT4 (was: Scandinavian archaeological textiles)
Oh WOW, Robin!!! This looks so cool! :D When will it be available? May I pass this along to some of my local and kingdom lists? WOO-HOO!! :-) Arlys On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:12:38 -0500 (CDT) Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Someone asked me about the editing on Scandinavian archaeological textiles I'm in the middle of, and it occurred to me you all might like a sneak peek of the tentative contents of Vol. 4 (2008) of Medieval Clothing and Textiles. Flax/linen production in medieval Russia References to scarlet clothing in Norse sagas The connection between Italian and Anglo-Saxon terms for wimple Linguistic background of coif/cuff Analysis of an extant 14th c. coif A visual classification method for archaeological textiles The Greenland gown and mainland European fashion Women's turbans in 15th c. French illuminations Henry VIII's quilts So, the usual range of disciplines (art, literature, archaeology, language, history, fashion study), periods (Anglo-Saxon to Tudor), and places (Russia, Scandinavia, France, England, Italy). We've also noticed that each volume seems to develop clusters in certain topics; this seems to be the one for Scandinavia, archaeology, and headgear. (Yes, the Greenland gown paper is mine, the long-promised publication based on my lecture on this topic, which some of you have heard. Even now I wish I could do more on it, but I just don't have time to read all the books I want to read...) Of course this all assumes I don't go mad. I'm in the midst of copyediting footnotes in at least eight languages, written by people whose native languages are (respectively) Italian, Finnish, Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish as well as English. A little much for someone with only French, though it's odd to realize I'm understanding more and more of the Danish and Norwegian at first glance. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Baggy pants (OT but who cares?)
Very true. All you say is true. It does look stupid on anyone over 16. And banning them in a classroom or at the local Country Club is actually OK with me. But for the town to make it a CRIME!... with a fine and all. Not funny. I agree. It screams of harkening back to sumptuary laws. Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What I (horrifically) wore
8 platform shoes, -C. Oh my word! How on earth did you walk in them? High heels are such a foreign concept to me. I've been singing my whole life, and singers should never wear a heel over an inch high (throws off your balance, which throws off your breathing). But then, being 5'9, I never had to be concerned about being 'tall' either. ;) Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE: Off Topic: What's your day job?
I'm a part-time multi-discipline writing tutor for a local community college. About 80-90% of my clients are second language students. It's a very enjoyable way to pay of Grad School. My husband's grateful I'm an embroiderer, not a costumer. ;) Arlys On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 07:52:17 -0400 lauren inzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I work for an optometrist. As far as funding my costuming...I have to budget just a small bit out of each paycheck. My bigger undertakings sometimes will take months to save for. Right now I've been savining for about six months to start a 15th century italian. Arnora ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] robe a la francaise grande panier.
Stunning, as always! Thanks for sharing. :-D Arlys On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 14:47:34 +0200 Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Just wanted to share, i happily got to make the dress before she comes and pick it up friday next week. I dont think i have ever worked so hard in my life before, sewing wise, never a moments piece. http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/sofie3.htm Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] hand rolling veil hems
I know I posted about this before, and many of you kind and knowledgable people gave me great instructions (although I admit a certain fondness for the one that takes you through a series of steps, followed by the explicit directive of Curse). ;) The problem is that all of these wonderful instructions were sitting in my e-mail inbox, which last night got sucked --in its entirety--into a black hole or otherwise vanished into another plane of existence. Could you please be so good as to repost? Many thanks! Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: new costume and textile books from DBBC
Don't shoot the messenger! blame it on Ian at David Brown Book Company! ;) Arlys A quick note to let you know that two long-awaited books have now arrived here for sale, as well as to tell you about a few other new arrivals from unusual sources... Firstly, the reprint of the visually stunning Moda a Firenze 1540-1580 has arrived from Italy. We managed to secure a reasonably good number of copies, but there's no guarantee that we will get more once these are sold. Act soon if you want one! Secondly, Penny Rogers' Cloth and Clothing in Early Anglo-Saxon England arrived yesterday to cheers and whoops of delight in the office. Many of you have already ordered this and we are shipping these orders over the next few days, but if you haven't yet done so, now's the time! Thirdly, hot off the packet steamer from Norway is the mammoth book on the textile finds from the Oseberg ship excavation. We had to fork out many Norwegian Kronas for this one just so that you wouldn't have to. A pricey, but significant book for the diehards. Finally, we received a fascinating-looking two-volume work from Denmark. Kriegskunst und Kanonen presents Joannes Bengedans' handbook (from around 1450) for the manufacture of explosives, techniques for the use of cannons and siege tactics. The volumes include a beautiful facsimile of the manuscript (which is in a Copenhagen University collection) and gives a translation into modern German and Danish of the text. It's a really stunning set and remarkably reasonably priced. Links to all four books are given below. I hope you will find them interesting. With regards, Ian Stevens The David Brown Book Company Tel: 1-800-791-9354 Links to these three books are given below. - 'Moda a Firenze 1540-1580: Lo Stile di Eleonora di Toledo e la sua influenza' - by Roberta Orsi Landini and Bruna Niccoli List Price: US$ 99.50 * Our Price: US$ 90.00 * Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=48785MID=12830 'Cloth and Clothing in Early Anglo Saxon England, AD 450-700' - by Penelope Rogers List Price: US$ 39.95 * Our Price: US$ 32.00 * Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=60262MID=12830 'Oseberg Textiles - Osebergfundet: Bind IVb' - edited by Arne Emil Christensen and Margarita Nockert List Price: US$ 225.00 * Our Price: US$ 200.00 * Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=47636MID=12830 'Kriegskunst und Kanonen (Artillery and the Art of War): Das Büchsenmeister- und Kriegsbuch des Johannes Bengedans' - edited by Hans Blosen and Rikke Agnete Olsen, with contributions by Aage Anderson, Bendt Falkesgaard Pedersen and Frede Storborg List Price: US$ 83.95 * Our Price: US$ 70.00 * Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=62166MID=12830 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Medieval embroidery
In blackwork, double running is the primary stitch, but it's not the stitch which creates the doublesidedness. It's the actual pattern--i.e., how it is executed. Arlys On Sat, 5 May 2007 23:02:40 -0500 (CDT) Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, 5 May 2007, Susan B. Farmer wrote: There are lots of examples from this period both in English and Italian art where the collar/cuffs are embroidered with the implication that both sides will be seen -- more can be forthcoming if you need additional examples. I don't know what the earliest such example is, though. I've sent my contact the images already cited as proof-of-concept for Tudor period, and the information posted here that there were stitches that could be reversible. That's a good start, but for publication purposes she needs a published source on the stitch types for that period (as seen in real examples); is there a book that examines historic stitching with close regard to period, e.g. not just saying this stitch is medieval but rather these stitches appear in X type of artifacts from Y time and Z place? Holy grail here would be examples of embroidery from c. 1400 clearly meant to be viewed on the reverse. Possibly not available, though. Extant pieces from 1400 are a lot rarer than from 1550. But it's not my area so I don't know all the standard sources the way I do in my own specialties. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Medieval embroidery
There is a form called Assisi work, uses the same stitches as blackwork, but was often worked in red, and I believe there's extant examples of that from the 12th cen. (1100's). I'll see what I can dig up. Melusine It's my understanding that the actual pattern on Assisi (voided) work is done in running stitch (also used in blackwork), but that the filling stitch was cross or some such. Hope someone here fills the void between my ears. ;) Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Medieval embroidery
Thanks! :-) Arlys On Sun, 6 May 2007 10:32:04 -0600 Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Usually done in a form of long-armed cross stitch, as far as I know. --Sue in Montana - Original Message - From: Cynthia J Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Medieval embroidery There is a form called Assisi work, uses the same stitches as blackwork, but was often worked in red, and I believe there's extant examples of that from the 12th cen. (1100's). I'll see what I can dig up. Melusine It's my understanding that the actual pattern on Assisi (voided) work is done in running stitch (also used in blackwork), but that the filling stitch was cross or some such. Hope someone here fills the void between my ears. ;) Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Medieval embroidery
So, questions: 1. Is my memory correct -- is this indeed a characteristic of blackwork? Or any other kind of historic embroidery style? Some, but not all, blackwork is reversible, and if it is, it is perfectly suited to cuffs and hankies and napkins where both sides will be seen. That said, this ability to be reversible for some patterns may be a happy accident which occurs owing to the combination of the particular pattern and double running stitch. A happy accident that people kept using. I look forward to further responses too. I've often wondered about pre-Tudor blackwork (Spanish work? Blackwork by any other name?) as well. Thanks for bringing this up Robin! :-) Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Metrosexual???? OT
As far as I can tell, the word means something along the line of being a sophisticated clothes horse. Sexual preference has nothing to do with it. May I express personal annoyance that people are using this term for historic figures? Just like Hildegard of Bingen was a liberated women--yeah, right. :/ Arlys On Sat, 5 May 2007 11:48:23 -0700 Saragrace Knauf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, this may be a little off topic, but since I heard it on the Tudor Fashion special (TFS) on showtime, maybe it isn't too bad. I heard the word Metrosexual (MS) for the first time in my life earlier this week in reference to what I can't remember, then I heard it yesterday for the second time on the TFS, and just now on NPR on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me. NPR's discussion implies that it is another word for homosexual, the TFS refered to Henry VIII as a MSwhat the heck is everyone talking about??? Someone who copulates with everything they can get their hands on?? Dumb in Buckwheat, AZ Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hand rolled hems
Sewing birds? Anyone have a pic they would like to share? :-) Arlys On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 14:42:27 -0400 LLOYD MITCHELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How right you are! Kathleen - Original Message - From: Carmen Beaudry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] hand rolled hems Sorry for the late reply myself, but. I'm doing some silk organza scarves (not historic, before anyone panics [1]). The fabric is 60 wide, so the hand rolled hem is very long - and I hate hand-sewing with a red passion, so I'm always trying to figure out how to make it easier and faster. And I hit on something this weekend. As long as the finished part is longer than my forearm, I can pin the edge under my right elbow (I'm right-handed) on a table, and hold the unfinished part of the hem in my left hand, rolling the hem toward me with the left hand's fingers. This keeps the hem taut, while rolling at the same time. I can then use my right hand to stitch what the left hand is preparing. Make sure that the table-chair setup puts your elbow no lower than normal height, or you'll be bending your back, which is Not Good. This goes fast! (snip) Melanie / Lijsbet This is pretty much how a sewing clamp/bird works. It makes pretty much all hand sewing Much faster. I have two reproduction sewing birds. One stays clamped next to my sewing machine for handwork in the sewing room, the other travels with me, since I found out I can clamp it to the edge of my travel sewing box. I do about 1/3 of my sewing by hand, so this has really speeded things up for m. Melusine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1580s open robes and closed robes or ropas
Oh bother! Can't remember the exact name of the stuff right now. It was a fine gauzy stuff that was either pinned or possibly sewn on as an oversleeve (I'm guessing pinned was more likely). One theory is that it may have been put on to protect the handwork on the sleeves, but it's just a theory Neat site! Arlys On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:07:58 -0700 zelda crusher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Melanie, What are the diaphanousthingscovering her lower sleeves? Looks like the artist was going for a soap bubble effect or something... Laurie http://www.tudor-portraits.com/UnknownLady50.jpg _ Dont quit your job Take Classes Online and Earn your Degree in 1 year. Start Today! http://www.classesusa.com/clickcount.cfm?id=866146goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww. classesusa.com%2Ffeaturedschools%2Fonlinedegreesmp%2Fform-dyn1.html%3Fspl ovr%3D866144 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] hand rolling hems
Hi all. I need to hand roll a veil hem and have never done it before. Could someone please give me instructions? thanks! Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hand rolling hems
Thanks to everyone for their help! Arlys On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:56:35 -0700 Carmen Beaudry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, Dawn wrote: Trim off any fraying edges. Take the edge of the fabric between your thumb and finger and try and roll it into a narrow hem. Curse. Snip off any frayed bits you caused. Take tiny stitches with the other hand. Repeat. I'll confess this is how I've always done it. But not long ago -- maybe even on this list? -- I read of a quicker technique that had to do with making a tiny fold and stitching alternately above the raw edge and then into the edge of the fold; take a few stitches, pull, and the hem rolls itself. But I may be missing a step or trick here, and it probably matters exactly how you point the needle. I am half-remembering a diagram which may have been on a webpage or may have been someone's ASCII drawing on the list. Does this ring bells for anyone? --Robin Yes it does. I sent a file with illustrations to the original poster privately, since this list doesn't take attachments. It also helps to use a sewing clamp as a third hand to keep the fabric taut. Melusine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] fabric sample windfall--removing glue
Emma, You might try soaking them overnight first and see if the labels and goo can be scraped off. Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] some stellar finds from David Brown/Oxbow Books
Sorry to do this to your pocketbooks. Arlys I have three books to mention today, all of which could interest those who are excited by the medieval and renaissance world and, more specifically, the clothing and costume of those times. Firstly, we have struck a deal with Italian publisher, Polistampa, to take copies of a book they published a couple of years ago and which sold out very quickly. It is about to be reprinted and we will have copies in April (my guess). 'Moda a Firenze, 1540-1580' presents a collection of illustrated essays in both Italian and English on costume and fashion inspired by Eleonora di Toledo's arrival at the Medici court. It's a stunning book, brimful of illustrations. Secure your copy now, before it sells out again. Going back a millennium or so, we are also going to be handling Penny Rogers' much-anticipated 'Cloth and Clothing in Early Anglo-Saxon England'. The book is due to appear in the next month or so in England and I am hoping we will have copies in April. Links to both the above titles are given below. We are giving as much information as we can (tables of contents, sample pages etc.) and we're also offering good introductory prices on both books. The third book is one I have mentioned before: The Luttrell Psalter. We are selling the British Library's amazing new facsimile edition and the introductory price of $650.00 is good until the end of March. After that it will be $750.00. Again, a link is provided below. It's pricey, but it's beautiful. Prompted by a couple of customers (we do listen sometimes!), we have decided to offer the book on a 'lay away' basis to spread the financial burden. Write to me for details. But remember: the price goes up after March 31st. Three very special books. I hope we tickle your fancy. With regards, Ian Stevens The David Brown Book Company Tel: 1-800-791-9354 - 'Moda a Firenze 1540-1580: Lo Stile di Eleonora di Toledo e la sua influenza' - by Roberta Orsi Landini and Bruna Niccoli List Price: US$ 99.50 * Our Price: US$ 90.00 * Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=48785MID=12830 'Cloth and Clothing in Early Anglo Saxon England, AD 450-700' - by Penelope Rogers List Price: US$ 39.95 * Our Price: US$ 32.00 * Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=60262MID=12830 'The Luttrell Psalter: A Facsimile' - with an introduction by Michelle P Brown List Price: US$ 750.00 * Our Price: US$ 650.00 * Link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm?ID=48244MID=12830 - To change your user profile follow this link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/elist.cfm/Location/DBBC/EmailAddress/Cley%40jun o%2Ecom To unsubscribe from this list follow this link: http://www.oxbowbooks.com/un_sub.cfm/Location/DBBC/MailingListID/12830/Em ailAddress/Cley%40juno%2Ecom ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] medieval book with pictures
the Manesse Codex is available online. Just google 'Manesse Codex.' There's a wonderful version of it in the original German. All photos are thumbnails which can be enlarged. Much fun. :-) Arlys On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:19:14 -0800 (PST) Zuzana Kraemerova [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: P.S.: If someone knew of a manuscript such as the codex manesse reprinted in a book, it would be very nice:-)) - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] name of a hat?
Having been up for 5 minutes, my brain isn't working yet, but you might google 'Cynthia Virtue website'--she has a bunch of info on them and other period hats, incl. how to make them. Arlys On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 16:47:34 -0800 (PST) Julie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the correct name of the medieval hat commonly referred to as the coffee filter hat? It looks like a sailor's hat without any crown and usually involves a chin strap and a hair net. I finished one over the holidays. Looks pretty good but I don't know what to call it so I can turn it in as an arts project GG Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] CIETA Embroidery Newsletters
!!! Thanks Beth! :D Arlys On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:32:38 -0600 Beth and Bob Matney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This site might be of interest: http://www.annatextiles.ch/newslet/newsint.htm Includes the CIETA Embroidery Newsletters from Dec. 1995 to Sept 2006 You might also find her home page http://www.annatextiles.ch/index.html of interest. Beth ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Schuette was RE: question re: floss silks for embroidery
OUCH!!! Many years ago, a friend asked me to check it out for her, so I found it via ILL through a library that didn't haven't it in the reference section. However, having severe unchecked RA at the time, there was no bloody way I could carry the thing and it didn't fit in my backpack. I called her boyfriend who was a taxi driver and requested book escort service. He came and got me, in a state of disbelief UNTIL he saw the book. And I got a free ride home for my trouble. ;) Arlys I don't know about two strong men, but the last time I took the pair of volumes out of the library I decided to save my bad back by carrying it balanced on my head ... and ended up getting a pinched cervical nerve that ended up sending me to the emergency room in extreme pain. So this is clearly a dangerous book in more than the usual financial sense! Heather ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Schuette was RE: question re: floss silks for embroidery
The Schuette at the library takes two strong men to carry, so Wanda's is the one you speak of? Arlys On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:42:35 -0600 Beth and Bob Matney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which is the 336pp., 11.5 x 8.5. (29 colour plates and 463 in b/w). Praeger 1964 edition? Beth At 01:00 PM 12/30/2006, you wrote: Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:23:00 -0800 From: Wanda Pease [EMAIL PROTECTED] By Schuette do you mean the little Pictorial History of Embroidery or the whacking great tombstone size two volume edition? Remember that I have the little one, and Multnomah County Library, Portland, OR (our little town) has the big one. We have GOT to arrange to spend a day or so photographing the big one with my digital camera. If that works it's DVD time! Wanda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE: question re: floss silks for embroidery
Or you buy a much cheaper, but very useful small book by a former curator of the Museum of London, called Embroiderers which also has information about Opus Anglicorum. http://www.alibris.com/search/books/author/Staniland,%20Kay Suzi Have it. Staniland's great. Think my local library carries Shuette. Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] RE: question re: floss silks for embroidery/Staniland
She'll be pleased to hear you are a fan - she currently has a broken thumb and is feeling very under the weather! Suzi Major bummer, esp. for someone so into fiber arts! Wish her speedy healing for me. Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] question re: floss silks for embroidery
Hi all. I'm researching embroidery materials and keep bumping into references that mention floss silks. Might anyone know how early these were used and/or have some possible sources they could point me to? Thanks! Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: question re: floss silks for embroidery
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:29:09 -0800 (PST) Kathy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Arlys, I can happily confirm they go back *at least* as far as the sixteenth century in Sicily, having had first hand experience with stranded floss silks in use. They sewed garments and made lace with them, in my experience. Very nice! They also appear in the Hardwick (Elizabeth of Shrewsbury) inventories, as polychrome floss silks used for cushion covers (_Elizabethan Treasures the Hardwick Hall Embroideries by Santina Levey, pg 47_). I can even help you find some to experiment with. ;-) The store exists, but is not ready yet for orders. email me off list if you are interested. thank you. I've been working in floss silk for years--it's loverly stuff for a lot of things, incl. blackwork. I'm trying to trace its history a bit. :-) Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tudor Tailor -- another review
One thing that may help is to have your hair in a not perfectly clean state. Oiler hair holds together better. Arlys, who has the same problem you do ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Catherine's waist measure
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 12:03:41 -0600 Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 13 waist? Baloney! Check out the Guiness Book of World Records. They have a tiny measurement for a modern woman you and I would consider average-sized, but darned if I can remember what the exact measurement was! Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] neat idea for those who draft
They're the same size as the typical b w marbled ones, only the covers are black with white quadrille on the top half of the page and ruled on the bottom half. I don't know if they come in different colors. 100 sheets, 200 pages. Planning on using mine a lot. :-) Arlys On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 10:32:12 -0700 Saragrace Knauf [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ooh, will have to look for this...what do they look like? Do they have that typical black and white cardboard cover, or are they plastic covered - Original Message - From: Cynthia J Leymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: [h-cost] neat idea for those who draft Hi all. Was in Office Max today (in the States) and came across something kind of cool. Mead is making composition books where have the page is in quadrille form and the other half is college ruled for notes. Handy thing for all of us who do embroidery and pattern drafting! Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] neat idea for those who draft
Hi all. Was in Office Max today (in the States) and came across something kind of cool. Mead is making composition books where have the page is in quadrille form and the other half is college ruled for notes. Handy thing for all of us who do embroidery and pattern drafting! Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] contracts
Thanks! I'll pass this along. Arlys On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:21:24 -0600 (MDT) Rachel Sampsel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Message: 1 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 07:26:45 -0700 From: Cynthia J Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] contracts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain Hi all. I was wondering if I could ask all you professionals out there for some advice. I have a friend who is starting to make high-quality SCA garb for sale, and is interested in doing custom work. She was wondering about the wording on contracts, whether these be pay for garment or barter for garment. Any suggestions that I could share with her? thanks! Arlys Tell your friend to be aware that if she puts Barter in writing in a contract, she will probably have to report it to the IRS. Technically, all barter situations are like that - you're suppposed to report every single one to the IRS, but if it isn't in writing, it can be very difficult to prove. The minute it ends up on paper, you're stuck with it, and then the reporting has to occur. Or you have to get very creative on your paperwork when you're selected for a random audit. Patches ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] contracts
Hi all. I was wondering if I could ask all you professionals out there for some advice. I have a friend who is starting to make high-quality SCA garb for sale, and is interested in doing custom work. She was wondering about the wording on contracts, whether these be pay for garment or barter for garment. Any suggestions that I could share with her? thanks! Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] finished left side of the waistcoat
Wow, oh wow!!! Stunning, Bjarne! Thanks for sharing--seeing your work is always a treat. :-D Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: ADMIN NOTE Re: [h-cost] Visit this sites!
Thank you. :-) Arlys On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 08:35:34 -0600 Elizabeth Lear [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry - I've removed them from the mailing list. This is the first time we've had such a blatant subscribe so I can spam the list; usually the requirement to confirm a subscription is enough to discourage those who don't really want to participate. I hope we will not have to add the kind of hoops you need to jump through for Yahoo groups and the like, but I will be keeping my eyes open for abuse like this in the future. ...eliz, list admin -- Children are made up of genetics, blind luck, and the stories you tell them. - The Flying Ks ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] book of interest on dyes
Hi Beth. May I forward this to other lists? Arlys On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:42:44 -0500 Beth and Bob Matney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This book is being offered at a very good pre-order discount by Amazon.. $81.90 (list price $130). The book is due out next month (July 30): 500 pages, 560 Illustrations. I pre-ordered a copy. Beth The following is the publisher's information: http://www.archetype.co.uk/ Natural Dyes by Dominique Cardon This authoritive resource is an expanded, corrected and updates translation of the award winning book Le Monde des Teintures Naturelles (published 2003, Belin,Paris). It is aimed at dyers, designers, artists, weavers, spinners, curators, conservators and restorers, museums, research institutions all those who have a professional or personal interest in or passion for colour. Drawing on many years of field and laboratory research, the author presents more than 300 plant and 30 animal dyes in a scientific and technical context within a handsome illustrated volume. Until the 19th century, natural dyes were the only sources for colouring textiles, leather, bone and ivory, wood, food, cosmetics etc. and were also part of many pigments of the artist's palette. Unlike modern synthetic dyes which, for financial and technical reasons have all but replaced them, natural dyes are not just the result of one particular colourant. They are a synergy of many substances with diverse chemical structures. While many may be colourless in the plant or animal, they are changed by the extraction and production processes into a myriad of colours of unsurpassable richness and subtlety. This title is due for publication autumn 2006 CONTENTS Part One - the Art of Dyeing 1. Dyeing methods through the Ages 2. Mordants : Discovery and methods Part Two - Dye Plants 3. Reds, violets, oranges 4. Anthraquinone red 5. A yellow world : plants containing flavanoids 6. The flavanoids which do not dye yellow 7. The yellows which are not flavanoids 8. From Cockagne to the cowboys : indigo plants 9. Beiges, greys, blacks, browns : tannin plants 10. Lichens and mushrooms for dyeing Part Three - Purple from shells and Red from insects 11. Purple : indigo molluscs 12. Red 'worms' and anthraquinones Appendix Colourants and their chemical structures ISBN: 190498200x £75.00 / $130.00 Hardback. 560 Illustrations ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] in search of a lost person
I reproduced the cuffs on the Holbein portrait of Queen Jane. On 60 count linen. Oh my! What was your stitch to ground ratio? And loved it. And have been doing it ever since. At any rate, peerages back then were pretty much all drive-by's, with a little more attention paid to the Chiv. No warning, no special outfits, no vigils, nada. Wham, bam, thank you ma'am...next? sort of thing. The day I got nabbed was at an event with really horrible, muddy weather, and I knew *something* was up, because someone who'd been trying to get my whole name down (spelling and pronunciation) was a little TOO obvious. (My SCA name is in an older form of Irish, and it's long, and pretty unpronouncable to most Sasenachs ;o). Court that night was held in a small building, without electricity, just a few coleman lanterns. My reaction, when I realized it was me, and what they were doing, was pretty much oh, shit! (in a nice way). The scroll was a marker-colored photocopy on some sort of dreadful fake parchment, the ink of which ran in the rain that weekend. The king and queen, who happened to be from the Sun and also happened to be the same people who'd given me an AoA a couple of years before, were later banished from the Society. How bizarre. I am moderately sure I'm mostly a blackwork laurel because that was one thing mentioned in the ceremony, although I was really involved in other things as well (late period costuming, primarily, and some cooking). It's just that I'm mostly known for itsy-bitsy blackwork. I adore the simplicity and clarity of monochrome embroidery, and would really love to do some extended research into the various forms it takes in different ethnic groups--contrasting, say, the different styles of early and late 16th century England, with Spanish, and German, and Italian, and French, and all of the loverly, loverly Islamic stuff...*sigh* ;o) I'm with you. Blackwork has zip nada zilch to do with my persona, but I love its crispness and surprisingly simple elegance--it's just a matter of breaking down the pattern elements. Have you found any evidence of blackwork (in any permutation) in England prior to the Tudors? I should add, my Pelican ceremony (that's a service award, for you non-SCAers) was even stranger. I seem to attract weirdness. (in a nice way) --Sue Time for another storytelling. :-) I was Pel'd sitting down (I can't kneel), for I suffer from a surfiet of height whereas Her Majesty does not. My circlet was a beautiful scholar's hood, and Her Majesty had to be able to reach! Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] in search of a lost person
On Wed, 24 May 2006 23:04:42 -0600 Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, cool! There's another one of us! ;o) --sue, who got laureled for blackwork, she thinks (wierd peerage ceremony...what can I say?) Pray tell? :-) Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] in search of a lost person
Would the kind individual who wrote me about blackwork please do so again? Your letter was accidentally deleted, for which I apologize. :( Arlys [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] When and how did you start making costume?
In discussion with a couple of friends at the weekend, we fell to talking about when we started sewing. When I first joined the SCA, I made some rudimentary costumes but never particularly enjoyed it. What I enjoy tremendously is embroidery and embellishment, which started when I was looking to learn a handcraft that wasn't hard on my arthritic hands. A friend taught me blackwork, which rocks! Since then, the arthritis has gotten a lot better with treatment, and I keep learning more medieval forms of embroidery. I also create the vast majority of my designs. Plus I have pals who love to costume, and are darned good at it. And two cats who have learned that Mama's silk threads are nothing to tamper with. Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hello out there??
replied to privately. On Sat, 20 May 2006 21:06:43 -0700 Marie Schnoor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cynthia J Ley wrote: The class is for my Kingdom's Royal University, and it will be taught at a local (Portland area, OR) event in August. I've taught it before, but there's always stuff to refine. Arlys *Hears Portland and perks up* Oh? An Ithra in August? Do tell... Marie :) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] hello out there??
Hi all. Have recieved nothing from this list since yesterday (Friday) morning. Everything ok? Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hello out there??
Thanks, Sue. :-) Feel like discussing latest projects? Arlys On Sat, 20 May 2006 08:48:46 -0600 Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You came through just fine, Arlys. At least, on my end. I think it's just really quiet --Sue, checking email before heading out to the gardens. - Original Message - From: Cynthia J Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 8:10 AM Subject: [h-cost] hello out there?? Hi all. Have recieved nothing from this list since yesterday (Friday) morning. Everything ok? Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hello out there??
On Sat, 20 May 2006 15:06:09 -0600 Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure! Always! giggle I've got a variety of things going at the moment, some of them peripherally (sp?) associated with historical costuming, in that they're fiber-related. I'm preparing wool and yarns at the moment (getting them ready for a weekend natural dyeing workshop next weekend), and some of that will become historical clothing and accessories. I've got myself about a pound What's going on in your neck of the costuming world? --Sue Oh gosh, nothing nearly as exciting as what you're doing! :-) Mamluk, huh? I have a friend who needs to talk to you! My project right now involves revamping a blackwork class that I'll be teaching in August--I am digging out docs and pictures, and making another sampler to go with the class. I don't costume at all, but enjoy the discussions and take classes when I can so I can understand it better--I just don't have time for it, as music and embroidery keep me very busy! ;) I'm also working on improving my SCA persona kit. From a costuming end, a friend is making me a GFD in the next month or so. Yay! Arlys ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume