Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo
Thanks Robin for the idea. My grand aunt that gave me the photo acted kind of strange when she gave it to me. But I can hunt down her children and ask. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New Orleans
Thank you Ann for the clarification. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo
Thank you for the discussion and please keep it going. I have my original photo to scan for more of the original color of the photo. I am waiting for my husband to work on this stupid new laptop. Now, it doesn't want to talk with my scanner. A few things to think about with the photo... 1. Why are the children holding flowers? I believe Katherine Mitchell told me that they is always a reason for flowers to be in a photo. Maybe she can chime in about it. 2. Look at how poorly the sleeve fits on Herbert's right arm. My grandmother was an outstanding seamstress and dressed her kids to the Tee. Several family members have told me about how strict that she was about her properly dressed children. My mom and I always thought that there was something odd about Herbert in this photo and that has always been on our mind. Last week when I took the photo down, I looked at it under a jeweler's magnifying light. The sleeve is falling over part of his hand and ill fitting. Mom and I have been discussing the photo for a week. Today, she brought up an interesting point that I didn't know. She is the one in our family that takes care of deceased family at the funeral homes. She said that when a person is dressed for the funeral, the clothing is cut up the center back and placed on the body. Next the funeral home closes it. I asked if it was loosely stitched the clothing together or pinned/clipped. She wouldn't reply. 3. I have Herbert's death certificate. South Carolina 99% of the time will mention a pre-existing conditions on the DC. Nothing is mentioned. I have been working on my genealogy for the past month. Strange, I have seen this photo my whole life and never thought about Herbert's photo being PM. The photo has been hanging in my living room for 15 years. We had just assumed that he had a disability. 4. One thing that I am going to try, is to contact this small town's funeral homes and ask them about PM photography at the time. They are all old family owned businesses and actually have records from the early 20th Century. Several years ago on h-costume, we have a big discussion about PM photography. One member, I believe from Pennsylvania, stated that there were family owned studios in her area that still do PM photos. Anyone recall that thread. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of shashal...@aol.com Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:51 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo One thing I noticed is you don't see the legs or shoes of the older girl. Is that just a matter of the shadows or was it touched up somehow. Chris Perri In a message dated 1/15/2015 3:36:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, mae...@gmail.com writes: Well, it looks like we have 3 votes for post-mortem and 2 for not. This is so very interesting!! Thank you for this topic, Penny. :) Someone said something like Ask yourselves, if the question hadn't been asked, would we be seeing so much evidence of death? No, we wouldn't but that has little to do with this photograph. We wouldn't question it because we would just assume life. This practice of posed family photos with the deceased hasn't been done in so long that it's totally foreign to us. For us, it's something you just don't do. Mourning brooches fall into the same unsettling category. Now, if someone walked around wearing a piece of jewelry made out of their dead friend or family member's hair, people would find it (and the mental state of the person who did so) truly alarming. Keepsakes are acceptable. Pieces from someone's body, not so much. That, and if the photographer did a good job, we shouldn't notice. These days, we do the same thing but it's not a photographer who does it. The deceased are made up to look beautiful for viewing, so they don't look dead. So I can't say I agree with the comment that death has a certain look and he doesn't have it. When the qualities are obscured with make up and there's no sign of serious trauma, what does death look like? One can only go by the eyes, right? Please guys, let's keep this discussion scholarly. :) Now, back to Herbie. His right eye fell inward and had probably been like since infancy, which would make him left eye dominant. But while all the others are looking where they should, his left eye (the one that should be focused) seems lost and empty of life. Blindness is a possibility but when the look of the eye is coupled with other elements in the photograph, I still have to keep my vote on the post-mortem side. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com wrote: Actually, I was not reading into it. I was not stating that the children were being yelled at. I was simply giving
Re: [h-cost] Ann Wass in Nola
I love, love, love Ann's red costume in NOLA. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo
This photo was produced from my grandma's original cabinet card. My mom had a negative pulled from it in 1960. I have another original cabinet card of this same photo that was given to me by my grand aunt. Mine has been broken in half. I have repaired it and back together with museum archival tape on backside. Both originals had a cross drawn in pen above my little Uncle Herbert's head. I will scan my original tomorrow. I think you will be see a little more in its original color. Also note that his two sisters have a little sprig of flowers in their hands. Herbert is holding only a small flower. My grandma had lots of professional photos made of her children when they were little. There are baby/infant photos of all the children but Herbert. Grandma gave all of her photos to my mom to copy and there is only this one photo of Herbert. When my grand aunt gave me the other original photo, I asked why the cross was drawn little Herbert's head. She said, This was his last photo, so they drew a cross over his head. Both photos have a penned ink cross drawn above his head. Has anyone else seen this drawn cross above a deceased person's head before in a photo? FYI, my grandmother was pregnant when Herbert died. Two days later, she gave birth to another son. She made sure there were lots of photos taken of her new son. Below is little Herbert's obit...you might need a hankie for this... In Memoriam: Herbert Clayton Dunlap The Angel of Death has visited another home and taken from our midst a dear little boy. Little Herbert Clayton Dunlap, son of Mr. and Mrs. W.L. [Willshire] Dunlap, died Sept. 15, 1912, after a brief illness of only a few days. Herbert was born March 23, 1909. During his brief lifetime, little Herbert had endeared himself to all those who knew him by his sweet sunny disposition. We sympathize deeply with Mr. and Mrs. Dunlap in their sorrow. The funeral was conducted by Rev. W.J. Nelson, pastor of the First Baptist Church [Rock Hill, SC.] We had a little treasure once, He was our joy and pride. We loved him, ah! perhaps too well. For soon he slept and died, All is dark within our dwelling, Lonely our hearts today, For the one we loved so dearly, Has forever passed away. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Penny Ladnier Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 1:07 AM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo I'll open a can of worms. I have a photo of my Dad and his siblings from 1912 http://www.costumegallery.com/kids2.jpg . The little boy in this front is he postmortem or handicapped. He passed away in 1912. I have always thought the belt around him was odd and being shoeless. My Dad told me once that his mother was very strict and would not allow them to go around barefooted. Last week I was dusting the photo's frame and gave it a hard look and thought it might be postmortem. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Anyone here?
I'm here after a long absence. My back blew out big time 2 years ago. I got a new computer, hate it and don't get on it often. I think I might switch my h-costume email to go to my gmail acct to keep up with you all on my cell phone. The only social media that I do is FaceBook and chat with several h-costumers there. I really don't have time to do the other social media. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New Orleans
Ann, I am glad you had fun in NOLA. I miss going there for Mardi Gras. My last year to go was 2012. My back just will not allow it. :( About the NPS not allowing reenactments...I have been following the NPS reenactments since June for the 150th Siege of the Petersburg. There were reenactors at all the events. I have been to all of their events. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] New Topic: Is this a Postmortem Photo
I'll open a can of worms. I have a photo of my Dad and his siblings from 1912 http://www.costumegallery.com/kids2.jpg . The little boy in this front is he postmortem or handicapped. He passed away in 1912. I have always thought the belt around him was odd and being shoeless. My Dad told me once that his mother was very strict and would not allow them to go around barefooted. Last week I was dusting the photo's frame and gave it a hard look and thought it might be postmortem. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?
I have sabout 20 camis with and without bras built into them. The trend has been for the past 5+ years is to layer several camis over a bra with colored straps exposed. This created a kinda rainbow of multiple straps. This fashion evolved into another fashion last summer of a cami with a an oversized A-shape or swing top shape with a racer's swimsuit back shape. My daughter came in with one of these last night and my husband was trying to convince her that it was a wife-beater top. I have forgotten what she called it. For some reason I think she said it is called razorback. Underneath it the ladies/girls are wear a swimsuit top, cami, or strapless elastic band top. My daughter is 22 now. I remember when the cami trend started and she was in high school. We have several arguments in the beginning that it was underwear back then. Then she started layering them. She started lifeguarding and wearing a lot less to work, so I lost the battle. I do have to say when you are purchasing camis to make sure to look at the drawings on the package. So many of them state there is a bra built into them...actually it should be worded as a shelf and not bra. A shelf is a lining over the bust area with elastic under the bust. It has no padding and generally made of the same fabric as the outer portion. You can put bra pads in this area if you want, but don't could on them staying in place. I have a hard time medically wearing a bra and searched high and low for the camis with a built in cups...without the back strap of a bra. You can find lots with the back straps in lingerie sections and pay a lot more for them. Kmart is the best place to purchase the ones with just cups and no shelf. They have been carrying them for 4+ years and they are generally hanging. I do suggest to anyone purchasing camis to get ones with adjustable straps. Most camis are form fitting and if you get one with cups or a shelf, you don't want to bothered with straps bugging you or the shelf elastic riding up all day. If you have the opportunity to try it on before purchasing, do so. Each manufacturers sizing is different and a lot of the cami textiles have spandex or Lyrca in it. Don't be surprised if you generally wear a medium and need to go up to a large or extra large. Cami sizing is so weird. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] early 20th Century Franco-American weddings
Charlene, Did you receive a reply to your question. I am curious for an answer too. I am sorry this is so late with a reply. I changed computers and just got my old email back. Penny Ladnier The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Charlene C Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 1:42 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] early 20th Century Franco-American weddings Sorry, this is a bit off-topic, but I'm hoping someone who studies the time period can help me. While working on my genealogy, I noticed that many of my Grandmother's generation married on a Monday (1930s; Biddeford, Maine). I asked one of her still-living sisters why that was and she didn't know; that's just the way it was done. I later found this is a book about the Franco-Americans in Biddeford, Maine: Weddings too retained much of their ethno-religious significance for the Franco. The wedding was usually held on Monday morning. Of course, the author didn't provide any additional information or cite this in the footnotes. (One of the faults of the book is the amount of information he presents without explanation.) Does anyone know why French Catholics in the early 20th century married on Mondays? --Charlene ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Princess Diana Evening Gown Sold
The Princess Diana dress that I worked with for five years sold at auction yesterday for $140,000 to a museum. I wonder which museum purchased it. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/entertainment/2013/12/fairytale-princess-diana-d ress-sold-for-14/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2517733/Princess-Dianas-fairytale-dr ess-sells-100k-unknown-buyer.html Fontaine Minor, the previous dress owner and my former client, donated the auction proceeds to the Princess Diana Charities. I was sitting on pins and needles until I found out that a museum purchased it. I was so worried that a private individual would purchase it and not provide proper care to the dress. I kept having nightmares of someone wearing it to a rodeo like one of the other Diana dress owners did. A museum getting it makes me feel like a good ending to a chapter in my life. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] about bath towels...
I use Bed Bath Beyond too! Also Costco has good towels. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Egyptian Textile Museum photos
Cynthia, Thanks for the Facebook link. Wow! I am going to spend a lot of time on this one! Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] LA Frocks
Karen Augusta turned me on to a new tv series on Smithsonian Channel called LA Frocks Stars that airs on Thursday night. The show is about a vintage clothing store. Last night the Augusta Auction Company was featured in the season finale. The show will be rebroadcast this week. You can watch a full episode at http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/site/sn/full-episodes.do Check the website for rebroadcast times. I like that the show provides educational with brief facts about designers, and fashion terms. Fashion and costume designers and film stars shop at this store. Some of the costumes were worn by past stars. The costume designer for Glee shops frequently for the show at the store. The online episode also features a buying trip to the Vintage Fashion Expo at Santa Monica, CA. Also Karen is having another vintage clothing auction in NYC on Apr. 17th. You can see the online the auction lots at http://www.augusta-auction.com/list-of-upcoming-sales?view=lots http://www.augusta-auction.com/list-of-upcoming-sales?view=lotscategory_id =2auction_file_id=27 category_id=2auction_file_id=27 Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites http://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Testing
Seeing if this finally goes through. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites http://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] I'm Back for a while
Since late November, I have been trying to get h-costume to acknowledge my gmail email account replies. I gave up and put h-costume back on my laptop email. I am so happy to be back. I can only be on my laptop one or two days a week because I finally did my back in with four slipped disks in my low back and another one in my neck. Hopefully I will find out in two April 17 if or when I will have surgery. I am so tired of being in bed most of the time but am very grateful that I can walk and drive again. I have been reading your emails on my phone until last week when you all swamped my phone's email and I was determined to get my h-costume replies to work. I am so happy to see the list active again. I love Facebook but the brief comments are not enough for me. I love h-costume's detailed messages and learning from your different interests in costuming. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites http://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] what is everyone working on?
I was finishing off a Japanese quilt for my son's Christmas present and Christmas Eve was when my back got so bad that I could walk. After getting over being upset for not completing the project...about a month... I moved over to hand stitching. I can do that from bed! I am working on an Egyptian sampler in cross stitch and embroidery. I can't sit behind the computer long enough to put photos on my website, but I do have progress photos on my facebook business page. Before I hurt my back, I was doing research on my antique photo collection. Several years ago a lady, I think an h-costumer, donated to me a collection of 20+ senior portraits from the class of 1920 from Somerville, Massachusetts. All but 5 of the photos weren't autographed. It is amazing that this collection has stayed intact. I had the name of the student who originally made the collection in 1920. I did some research on ancestry.com and found the student's 78 y.o. daughter. I did not have a photo of the student whose name is Eleanor. Her daughter sent me her original senior portrait and a copy of her 1923 wedding photo. Eleanor and her husband were married 60 years and the couple wore their 1923 wedding clothes at this special anniversary. Some of the senior portraits only had autographed their first name and graduation year, 1920. Her daughter found a couple of more portraits and sent them to me. Last week her daughter found some more senior portraits and a school magazine that listed all Eleanor's classmates names and addresses. Yippee! Now I finally have most of their full names except the five photos without names. I have even searched google maps for the students' home addresses to see if their homes are still standing. Most are! As for the fashions worn in the portraits...it is so fun to see the early 1920s fashions before things went wild. None of the girls have bobbed hair but in a bun at the nape of their neck. Some are three quarter length portraits. Their dresses are midi length and often tiered skirts. Eleanor's daughter sent me a few candid snapshots of her mom and girlfriends outdoors wearing their wool coats with large fur collars during 1920. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] old sewing thread
I used old thread on a quilt and it all fell apart after one washing because of the thread. Penny Ladnier, owner www.costumegallery.com On Jan 15, 2013 10:55 PM, Suzanne sovag...@cybermesa.com wrote: Here's an odd question: How long does cotton or silk sewing thread last? At work today, we found an old cigar box full of Belding Corticelli thread that probably dates back to the early 1950s. (The small spools of cotton were priced at 15 cents and the large ones at 25 cents.) I was admiring the beautiful shades of green. . . and then everyone else said it would all have to be thrown out because it was too old to use in machine sewing. I'd never heard of thread going bad so now I'm wondering if I was just daydreaming that day in home ec class [quite likely!] or if this is common knowledge for everyone but me? (I also have a friend who refuses to use vintage cotton fabric because it might rip, so there's another question for you!) I reeled out one spool of white and pulled hard, and it does seem thinner than the polyester stuff they sell most places these days--but does that mean it won't work even for lightweight projects? Such a waste! :-( Suzanne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Re: [h-cost] Query re: website
The owner is Marion McNealy. It is shown on the contact page of the website. The business is Harman Hay Publications, Nottingham, UK. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history - Original Message - From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 11:32 PM Subject: [h-cost] Query re: website ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Costume Con 28: Photos: Historic Masquerade
I have made a Facebook page for The Costume Gallery Websites. Here you can keep up with live updates and what are works in progress. Go to www.facebook.com and search for The Costume Gallery Websites. Make sure to include the word THE in your search. This area will not to replace anything on The Costume Gallery Websites except the Library's update area. Today, on the Facebook page, I added sneak peaks of the photos from the Historic Masquerade from Costume Con 28. If you are new to Facebook, you can click on the WALL or PHOTOS tabs. The photo area, click on the 1st album for the Historic Masquerade and see all 16 entries in this event. If you have a Facebook account you can leave a comment under the photo. I am a Southern girl at heart. So if you do not have anything nice to say, please refrain from doing so. The historic masquerade photos include brief details and awards on Facebook. I am going back to working on Historic Masquerade section on our websites. This will include detailed high resolution images and when available video. Enjoy! Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brocade and Fair Use
Ann, Actually the technology does exist. They showed something similar on Project Runway this season. Virginia Commonwealth University had a massive machine that did this when I taught there in 2007. The instructor scanned a textile and reproduced it in no time flat. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history - Original Message - From: annbw...@aol.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:31 AM Subject: [h-cost] Brocade and Fair Use Okay, let's try this one more time. Suppose someone bought a yard of your custom-produced brocade, and using technology (that admittedly probably doesn't exist yet) scanned it and starting producing their own brocade, in exactly the same pattern, and selling it. Would you regard that as fair use? Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brocade and Fair Usegalities
If you are not familiar with licensing agreements, I do suggest obtaining a lawyer. There are lawyers who specialize in this area of contracts. Licensing agreements should not be taken lightly. You might check your local Small Business Administration for advice. They offer classes for a low rate. You can also obtain a mentor through the association. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Friday at Costume Con
Genie, Darn, I am so sorry that we missed you. I missed meeting Danielle too. Maybe next year. I did get to meet h-costumer Ann in CT. I took lots of photos of Sandy and Pierre in costumes. We only had a chance to mingle on Friday night. The switch to cold weather really got the better of me and Joe. We left 90 degree weather in Richmond. Maybe next year, Arizona will be warmer. We could hardly walk by the end of each evening. Next year Joe should feel a lot better with his new knee. During green room time, I was running up and down the hall behind the stage to take contestants to Joe to photograph. My feet swollen so much from doing that. I didn't get to see but a little of the historic show because I had three entries left to photograph. I just watched the videotape that Joe made of the historic masquerade and it looked really good. I took four classes...two were Robin's. I learned a lot! Thank you Robin for teaching the classes! The rest of the time, we only left our hotel room two hours before the shows for the green room and the show time. We didn't take many hall costume photos. Going between the two floors of the hotel made it hard to find people to photograph. Last year, the central meeting area made meet and greet and an opportunity to photograph hall costumes a lot easier. If you know someone who photographed this year's hall costumes, or if you have photos of yourself please contact me. I really feel bad that we didn't photograph many hall costumes. We had to make a choice to photograph the masquerades or hall costumes. Since most people can not see the costume details on stage, we chose to photograph them. You will be amazed at the costume details. The wonderful thing is to hear the stories behind the costumes. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Museum Photo Reproduction Fees
A lot of museums base their reproduction fees similar the Chicago History Museum: http://www.chicagohistory.org/documents/research/rightsandrepro/CHM-RightsReproFees.pdf When speaking with a museum you need to know exact details that you will need for permission and production fees. You are entering into a licensing agreement. You need to know size, length of time for publication, etc. Have your ducks in a row before talking with them. The people in this department are very busy and used to working with big production agencies and publishers. Part of my internship at the Valentine Museum was in this department shadowing the curator. I learned a lot. Many museums are licensing for reproductions of their collections. Don't expect them to give it away. Generally museums make more money through their collections reproduction rights than visitors' admission fees. I strongly suggest that it you go to a museum and photograph with the intention of publishing on paper or the web to obtain written permission from the museum. Just asking permission from a docent is not binding. Make an appointment with the curator or marketing dept. to photograph is standard practice. It is very difficult to obtain permission if you just show up on location without advance notice. Most museum's want more than a week or two notice. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Friday at Costume Con
Thank you Sandy for the correction. Maybe it will be warmer next year in Jersey. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Friday at Costume Con
YIPPEE! I finally meet Robin, Pierre Sandy. Robin found me on the floor in photographing details of a person's costume. She remembered that I photographed while laying on the floor at the Ringling Museum. Robin invited me to photographed her during one of her lectures Sat. morning. The theme of CC is spies. Twice Robin and I headed to my photography location and she got pulled away. About 250 people were in the ballroom. Near the end of the evening I keep looking for Robin to photograph her...she was no where to be found. Sandy and Pierre were dressed as spies...Pierre made stunning tailored costumes for them. I gave the spies a mission, find Robin for me. After a while, Sandy came to me and said that she found Robin on the other side of the ballroom. We sneaked up on Robin like spies. I finally got a photo-op of her. I also photographed Sandy Pierre. They reminded me that all three were on my first Online Costume Ball and others. It was so nice to finally met the three of them. We have been talking for 15 years on h-costume. I was a college student at the time. I can't wait to see what Pierre Sandy's costumes are Sat. night at the Sci-Fi masquerade. I have admired their work for years and it is such an honor to meet them. Danielle and other h-costumers try to find me this weekend. Don't be surprised if I am on a floor or a foot away from some costume details photographing. Just hang around and we will chat. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Who is going?
Who from h-costume is going to Costume Con? I will be there Friday-Sunday. Looking forward to a great time! Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Who is going?
Robin, We are FINALLY going to meet! Please let Teddy know that I will be looking for him. I hope to meet Sandy and Pierre this time too! I missed them in Baltimore. Joe and I are there as press. We will be wandering in the hall photographing or the front row at the masquerades. Any h-costumers just grab me and introduce yourself or ask Joe where I am. Joe is walking with a badly need cane. We almost weren't sure if we could go or not. The doctor said he can have a new knee next month. So we get to go! Back to packing. We have to be at the airport at 4:30. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair: hair receptacle
Someone in another post mentioned hair receptacle. I purchased an antique ceramic hair receptacle a few months ago at an estate sale. I have no idea how old it is. It is in two pieces that are donut shaped they sit one upon the other. I have been collecting hair after washing my hair and brushing my hair the putting it in the hair receptacle. I have also collected my hair after having it trimmed. It has taken me a couple of months to fill the receptacle. I am surprised how quickly it filled up. Now, for making the rat...would it work best to place the hair in panty hose before using it in my hair? Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:
This is a thought...take an image of what you want and take it to a hairdresser that does bridal styles. Ask them if they can recreate the style. There are hairdressers that specialize in bridal up-dos. Penny Ladnier (who grew my hair long in the early 1980s to look like Laura's hair on General Hospital) Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:
Carol, Is the long hair email list that you and I belonged to still around? I offered to pick up the list when they were closing it. but never heard back from the owner. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Victorian Hair:
I collect hair care and style articles. They are in the subscription area of my Library, http://www.pasthairstyles.com/. I have hair care manuals online from 1899 and 1911. A study in the 1899 manual about women marriage success according to their hair color. It is so funny! I have several more articles to put online. I recently purchased an 1868 Harper's with step-by-step directions for a ladies' hairstyle. This was accomplished with the ladies' own long hair. It doesn't look difficult to do. Since the film, The Young Victoria, came out, the Queen's hairstyles have become fashionable again in tweens and teenagers. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Designer Magazine Pattern
Thank you for your help with the pattern company. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history - Original Message - From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Designer Magazine Pattern It was the Standard Fashion Company, producing Standard Patterns The company put out magazines with several names over time, including The Standard Delineator and The Ladies' Standard Magazine The Standard Designer and eventually just The Designer Past Patterns offers copies of several of their 'teens patterns. http://www.pastpatterns.com/5239.html Katy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pictures
Rebecca, I would love to see your photos but is there a URL to your Picasa Web album? Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Arty recycling of garments
Here is a link to Discarded To Divine 2010 photos: http://www.svdp-sf.org/DISCARDED/gallery/index.html Here is a link to the designers: http://www.svdp-sf.org/DISCARDED/designs.html Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Designer Magazine Pattern
I am working on an article from an 1899 Designer Magazine. Does anyone know who published the patterns that are mentioned throughout magazine? Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Project Runway
I received this announcement. If you are interested contact the person in the announcement. I'm a casting director for Project Runway. We are seeking fashion designers for our new season. Many of our strongest designers have come from the costuming world. Submission information is on our website: www.bunim-murray.com/prcasting Please feel free to forward this email. We are looking for a diversity of designers--age(21+), region, POV--we want to see it all! Call or reply if you have any questions. Thanks so much! Kasha Foster Project Runway Casting 818 756 7030 kfos...@bunim-murray.com __ Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Designer Magazine Pattern
Katy, Thank you! Is the The Standard Delineator different than Delineator published by Butterick? I have a large collection of the Butterick Delineator from 1880s-1930s. I have not seen Standard before the name in my collection. I only have a few Designer magazines. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] List of Hunnisett Films?
Sg, imdb.com only has The Slipper and the Rose: The Story of Cinderella (1976) . Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] The Tutors Final Season
The final season of The Tudors starts Sunday on Showtime: http://www.sho.com/site/tudors/home.do You can watch the first episode of Season 4 online right now for free: http://www.sho.com/site/order/preview.do#/Tudors_s04_e01 Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Look at this photo YIPPEE!!!
Hi Carol, Thank you! I have chatting back and forth with the photo historian about the hand-tinting. Both were developed around the same time. I purchased the three 1850s stereoviews that I mentioned...not knowing what a treasure they were until I had the historian look them over. This is what he said: It's funny that the tinted stereoviews you just purchased happen to be 1850s from the United Kingdom. Well, you have the earliest examples of stereoviews, really. One of the stereoviews is by J. Elliott and another by a London studio with two brides in the photo. The third photo is very similar to the style of the Elliott one. The early British stereoviews are considered the most treasured in the industry. Here is an article about the hand-tinting process. It also mentions J. Elliott. I hope to bring these with me to Costume-Con for people to see. Once I complete my 1920s wedding photo area online, I will be putting the 1850s-1860s wedding photos online. I have another large group wedding photo to go in this area from the late 1850s-early 1860s. It is from England and was taken outside. All the ladies are in their bonnets. I can't wait to enlarge the photo for a closer look. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Look at this photo YIPPEE!!!
I am sorry, I forgot to add the link for the article about stereoview tinting: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/early-french-tissue-stereoview-of-restaurant Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Look at this photo YIPPEE!!!
I am now the VERY proud owner of the photo. I finally decided to buy it today. This is my first photo like this. The dealer and I have been chatting back and forth. He is very knowledgeable about photography history. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Look at this photo
I came across a tinted ambrotype on ebay today, auction #380218819142. She is beautiful! Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Google's Sewing logo
Google's April's Fool joke has been that they have been changing their logo all day. Right now, it is a sewing theme. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Please help with this photo
I won a wedding stereoview on eBay a couple of days ago. Please take a look at it, auction 140387324507. Scroll to the bottom of the page for the photo enlargement. I received the stereoview today and popped it into my viewer. We believe there is something strange about the photo. It looks like the people might be in black-face. Can you please take a look at it and let me know what you think. The minister has something on his forehead that looks like a wig cap. I did a quick Google search on stereoviews and the name BW Kilburn to see if there are other photos in this style. I have not see one. Is anyone familiar with this photographer? Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Please help with this photo
Thank you Beth for the information and links. I guess a lesson learned. I didn't ask the seller for an enlargement because the images were so faded. You really couldn't tell much until I put it in the stereograph viewer. I don't think the seller knew what she had, because she has a lot of nice black Americana wedding photos. We discussed what to do with the photo. It doesn't fit into the theme of my bridal site. If someone is doing research on minstrel shows and wants the stereograph card, contract me privately. I will cut my losses. I am so disappointed that the black Americana wedding photos are commanding such high prices. I have been collecting ethic photos from all over the world for the website and have one photo for the black Americana category. Today, I had to decide between purchasing an 1860s British group wedding photo or a modern black Americana wedding snapshot with a the bride and groom. Both photos were going for about the same price. I chose the 1860s group photo because these are more rare. This is my first British and 1860s wedding photo. I am very excited to receive it. I can't wait to get the photo into my Zoomify software and view each person's costume. Thank you for the speedy reply! Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
Rebecca, Do you have some photos that we can see of his regalia? Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] I'm Back from Mardi Gras
YEA!!! Boy I needed that winter break! I had a blast at Mardi Gras. I got off the plane and rushed to downtown Mobile, Alabama and caught my first parade. I had one hour to get downtown to catch the parade. Before I left I bought a more professional camera. I sat on the curve to photograph the parades. The krewes (people on the floats) saw the camera and started throwing a LOT of beads at me. I really was not interested in the beads...all I wanted were three stuffed animals for my grandbabies. I looked down and my feet were covered with beads. I traded with a teenager all the beads for the stuffed toys. I have hundreds of beads already from years of going to parades. A big mistake with the camera...because the krewes know that people with big cameras are press, they bombard you. I got hit in the face three times with handfuls of beads. One time I got cut on the eyebrow by flying beads. My airplane flight was delayed by 1 1/2 days because of the snow cancelations on the East Coast. So I missed the Joe Cain's Merry Widows events. I was so disappointed. I guess I will catch it another year. I got on one of the first flights out and had to travel to an airport 100 miles away. I photographed the parades in Mobile and New Orleans. I spent Mardi Gras Day in the Garden District of New Orleans and photographed the parades. I also photographed the southern mansions in the District. They were decorated beautifully for Mardi Gras. Everyone was having parties on their porches and/or gardens. I did get some of the parade audience in costumes...they don't dress up as much as they used too. LOL! I had a big mansion for a full view in my camera's view finder. I noticed something hot pink on the porch. I approached closer for a different view of the mansion. The pink thing was a 50-something man in nothing but a pink tutu While I was photographing, he walked out to the parade route and back to the porch. Of course I HAD to photograph him. These are temp photos...large in size: Mansion: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/MG/n1344med.jpg Tutu: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/MG/n1345med.jpg I photographed the Krewe/Mystics coronation robes and costumes at the Mobile Mardi Gras Museum. The robes are so individually unique. Each robe reflects the wearer's personality. One robe had a grand piano appliquéd on it...while another featured a bayou. I am prepping these photos to go online right now. When I videotaped this museum's collection in 1999 there were a lot of pre-1980 robes. Today they only have on display 4 costumes that pre-date 1985. I am going to talk with the museum's director next week after they recoup from Mardi Gras visitors. I want to know what happened to the other costumes. I pray that they did not go under water during Hurricane Katrina. I asked my brother who lives in the area and he is not sure if the flood water came up that far into the city. On a sweet and sour note...we searched and searched for the Biloxi Mardi Gras Museum. The internet website stated that it was open...but the webpage had not been updated since Hurricane Katrina. The museum is located on the Beach in Biloxi where a lot of damage was. Most of the buildings near it were destroyed. We finally went over to Biloxi and put the location on GPS and found the building. It was built in 1840 and is being gutted and restored. No date was available as to when it will reopen. I do recall reading that all the damaged costume collection was removed. A group was attempting to restore the costumes. But I haven't heard an update. I know the building next to the museum 1st floor was completely under water during the hurricane. I photographed the museum collection in 1999. I have changed my style of photography and wanted to re-shoot the costumes. My alternate plan was to go to the Hard Rock Casino and photograph their collection. What a thrill!!! I photographed Madonna's Material Girl costume and a black corset bustier. The leather bustier was the only costume in the casino that survived Katrina. I also shot two Elton John costumes, one the pants from the film Tommy and another costume designed by Bob Mackie. The most unusual thing photographed was a quilt made of actual panties and bras that were thrown on stage to Frank Zappa. The panties were filled to shape of a woman's rump. Back to playing with costume photos. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] AGAIN: I'm Back from Mardi Gras
I am not sure if my previous message went through or not. I needed to reset my email preferences from vacation. So here is the message again. YEA!!! Boy I needed that winter break! I had a blast at Mardi Gras. I got off the plane and rushed to downtown Mobile, Alabama and caught my first parade. I had one hour to get downtown to catch the parade. Before I left I bought a more professional camera. I sat on the curve to photograph the parades. The krewes (people on the floats) saw the camera and started throwing a LOT of beads at me. I really was not interested in the beads...all I wanted were three stuffed animals for my grandbabies. I looked down and my feet were covered with beads. I traded with a teenager all the beads for the stuffed toys. I have hundreds of beads already from years of going to parades. A big mistake with the camera...because the krewes know that people with big cameras are press, they bombard you. I got hit in the face three times with handfuls of beads. One time I got cut on the eyebrow by flying beads. My airplane flight was delayed by 1 1/2 days because of the snow cancelations on the East Coast. So I missed the Joe Cain's Merry Widows events. I was so disappointed. I guess I will catch it another year. I got on one of the first flights out and had to travel to an airport 100 miles away. I photographed the parades in Mobile and New Orleans. I spent Mardi Gras Day in the Garden District of New Orleans and photographed the parades. I also photographed the southern mansions in the District. They were decorated beautifully for Mardi Gras. Everyone was having parties on their porches and/or gardens. I did get some of the parade audience in costumes...they don't dress up as much as they used too. LOL! I had a big mansion for a full view in my camera's view finder. I noticed something hot pink on the porch. I approached closer for a different view of the mansion. The pink thing was a 50-something man in nothing but a pink tutu While I was photographing, he walked out to the parade route and back to the porch. Of course I HAD to photograph him. These are temp photos...large in size: Mansion: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/MG/n1344med.jpg Tutu: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/MG/n1345med.jpg I photographed the Krewe/Mystics coronation robes and costumes at the Mobile Mardi Gras Museum. The robes are so individually unique. Each robe reflects the wearer's personality. One robe had a grand piano appliquéd on it...while another featured a bayou. I am prepping these photos to go online right now. When I videotaped this museum's collection in 1999 there were a lot of pre-1980 robes. Today they only have on display 4 costumes that pre-date 1985. I am going to talk with the museum's director next week after they recoup from Mardi Gras visitors. I want to know what happened to the other costumes. I pray that they did not go under water during Hurricane Katrina. I asked my brother who lives in the area and he is not sure if the flood water came up that far into the city. On a sweet and sour note...we searched and searched for the Biloxi Mardi Gras Museum. The internet website stated that it was open...but the webpage had not been updated since Hurricane Katrina. The museum is located on the Beach in Biloxi where a lot of damage was. Most of the buildings near it were destroyed. We finally went over to Biloxi and put the location on GPS and found the building. It was built in 1840 and is being gutted and restored. No date was available as to when it will reopen. I do recall reading that all the damaged costume collection was removed. A group was attempting to restore the costumes. But I haven't heard an update. I know the building next to the museum 1st floor was completely under water during the hurricane. I photographed the museum collection in 1999. I have changed my style of photography and wanted to re-shoot the costumes. My alternate plan was to go to the Hard Rock Casino and photograph their collection. What a thrill!!! I photographed Madonna's Material Girl costume and a black corset bustier. The leather bustier was the only costume in the casino that survived Katrina. I also shot two Elton John costumes, one the pants from the film Tommy and another costume designed by Bob Mackie. The most unusual thing photographed was a quilt made of actual panties and bras that were thrown on stage to Frank Zappa. The panties were filled to shape of a woman's rump. Back to playing with costume photos. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] My Winter Escape...Happy Mardi Gras!
Later tonight I will be signing off for a week and escaping from our the three weeks of snow in Virginia! I am leaving Saturday morning to go to Mobile, Alabama, Mississippi Gulf Coast and New Orleans for Mardi Gras. My crazy friends and family are setting up all kinds of events for me to attend. We are starting off with parades in Mobile Sat. Sun. Hopefully Sat. night, I will be going as press to the Coronation Ball. I have to dust off my 1920s Red Cross Ball gown. Sunday morning I will be photographing the Joe Cain's Merry Widows procession, http://www.cainsmerrywidows.org/ . Read the history of why Joe Cain was important to Mobile's Mardi Gras history. The widows are in full Victorian mourning costumes...check out their links. Later that day, the Widows lead the People's Parade. My crazy oldest brother will be on one of the floats in this parade. Instead of beads, the floats throw items like tampons. Monday we are in Mississippi for parades. Tuesday, Mardi Gras day to be in the Garden District of New Orleans. My 5th son who attends college in Mississippi is going with me. If the Garden District still holds true to bill, that's where the audience dresses up in great costumes. My best costume photos come from the parades in that area. If you are not familiar with New Orleans, this area is where all the beautiful Southern mansions are. I love the Garden District. I am staying on the Gulf Coast until Fri. I hope to photograph costumes at Mardi Gras museums again. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] My Winter Escape...Happy Mardi Gras!
Thank you Ann! My husband is a Cajun...you need to speak French to him. Mobile is only supposta (getting my deep southern accent ready) get snow for a couple of hours this morning. The news said that the parades will roll regardless of the weather. Their snow generally melts off fast not weeks like we presently have. My 4th brother told me it was going to snow, a few days ago. So you are off the hook! Yesterday, my #5 son started receiving snow/sleet in Hattiesburg, Mississippi. I grew up on the Gulf Coast and know how the weather can swing and sway this time of year. I will be staying on Dauphin Island with my oldest brother. It is a little warmer there and it has a beach! My husband's family lived on the island for 225 years. In 1999 we went to the Coast for Mardi Gras. We wore shorts all week. Usually my winter escape trips have a lot warmer locations. I justified my escapes with photoshoots of costumes. ***2009 Vegas (it was colder there than here). Photographed Halloween Costume Trade show costumes, Liberace's costumes, showgirls costumes from Jubilee! ***2008 Hawaii twice in one month. Photographed museum costumes. ***2007 Sarasota, Florida for a month. Photographed for a straight week the Ringling Museum and mansion. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OMG! The sale price
I generally pay $3 to $10 per wedding photo on eBay. But I prefer to purchase lots so that the price per photo is lower.Edwardian photos seem to be hot on the market right now. They are commanding higher prices for the mid-Edwardian photos. I just paid my highest price for a bridal photo on eBay for a mid-Edwardian of $25. Got into a bidding war for that one. But I am using it as my logo and background for the Edwardian section of my bridal site. Locally, I pay from $3-6 per photo. The venue dictates the purchase price. The highest prices are at antique shows. In my area there is an antique paper store that has a massive antique photo section. He supplies antique photos, magazines, and newspapers for films. He gives me really good discounts. There are three eBay dealers that feeds photos to me. One is located in Egypt and we now by-pass eBay all together. He specifically sells me mid-Eastern/Egyptian wedding photos. Another dealer has high quality photos for wedding and first communion. I collect both. The third dealer sells large lots of wedding snapshots. I will buy whatever these three offer because they know what I am looking for. Otherwise, I am at the point of filling in gaps in wedding photo collection. I just received my first African American photo. It is rare to see these photos come up for auction. I paid a little higher for it. We are going to research this photo a lot because the groom and groomsmen may be the Tuskegee Airmen. The highest price that I have paid for any photo on eBay is $100. This was for my website, A Brush with History: Vintage Hairstyles http://www.costumegallery.com/Hairstyles/Longhair/Women/menu.htm The photo is a stereoview and is the one used in the logo. The lady in the photo inspired the title of the area. She is holding a beautiful brush. The Victorian lady photos with their hair down are kinda like Glamour Shots today. They were very hard to find and cost more than any of my other photos. This type of photos are hot tickets on eBay. My suggestion for someone wanting to see photos on eBay is to pick a specialty area to focus. I have seen dealers who specialize in children with toys and animals, people in cars, etc. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] OMG! The sale price
That dead bride photo sold for $255!!! Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Is this real or not?
I found a photo on eBay that is being described as a post-mortem bride photo. What do you think, is she death or not? Read the description the seller has of the bride. The item number is 380202466338. Penny Ladnier (who has been snow-bound for two weeks) Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is this real or not?
Ann, Yes there was superimposed photography at the time. I have seen photos of a family in a graveyard with a ghost image of the deceased on them. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history - Original Message - From: Irina Moeller ladya...@quik.com To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Is this real or not? I agree that she looks very much alive. The pose for both of them looks totally normal for the time period. I also agree that she is simply looking at something else than the groom. I do not think that he looks upset and there really were a lot of mourning rituals back then. Her flowers do not look any more real than his do. Does anybody know if photographers back then could superimpose such things? Anne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is this real or not?
What a lively discussion on a snowy weekend! We dodged the big bullet this weekend Ron! I checked my massive bridal photo collection from 1880-1919. Her bodice dates from 1898-1902. So here are my observations from my collection: ***About half of the photos during these four decades, the couple are touching in the photo. Most of the time, it is the man's arm on the chair or the woman is holding the man's arm as in a wedding march stance. ***I have a few photos in the later Edwardian period where the women at sitting. By the early 1910s this trend is about 50/50. By the later decade, the majority of women are sitting in the photos. By the 1920s, it is commonplace to see the bride and groom sitting. In a lot of photos from the 1920s/1930s all the women are sitting and the men standing. I wonder if this bride is sick or disabled as to why she is sitting OR the photographer is picking up on a new trend. ***Her hand position is very common in all four decades. ***Her face is more softened than any other part of the photo. I have several non-bridal photos with this effect from the 1890s. ***His stance is very common in all decades. He actually shows a little affection in his eyes. ***From my other photo collections from the 1890s-Edwardian, it is commonplace for flowers pinned to their bodice at the waist or upper left chest. I do have a few 1890s/Edwardian bridal photos with fresh flowers all over the dress. ***Her leaning back in the chair is very popular for women's photos in the mid-to-late Edwardian period. It gives a more relaxed look to the photo. I have several 1910s photos with brides with this posture. ***I have seen hand-drawn with crosses on the post-mortem photos or the last photo of the person alive. I have one of this type of last alive photos of my uncle as a toddler from the mid-Edwardian period. A lot of post-mortem photos have a lot of flowers in the photo of on the border. When you look at it, you definitely know the purpose of the photo. Years ago, there was a list-member whose family had been photographer for several generations. She sent a lengthily message about post-mortem photos. There is something on the photo near the right ear. You can see her husband's arm through the veil. De I do see the suspicious area that might be a buckle. I would like to grab the photo an put in my extreme zooming software to see what these things are. I have bought a lot of photos on eBay and when I zoom in very closely, I find all sorts of things. I looked at the webpage code, but can not find the URL for the images. I have new glasses and viewing HTML code is a challenge right now. If anyone can find the photo image URL in the code, please send it to me. As for the flowers...women were using dried flowers during this time. There are articles in fashion magazines for the process of drying. Her flowers may not have been processed properly. Thank you for mentioning the painted eyes. I forgot about this. I do have several professional photos with someone in the bridal party with their eyes closed. I have often thought that the photographer did not sell the photo or maybe that is why a family member did not hold on to a photo. Some of these photos look brand new. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is this real or not?
Linda Walton sent me the image URL and I have zoomed in on the photo. The buckle on the belt slightly to her left side. The belt's bottom rests and about an inch above the bodice's bottom. This seems a bit odd location to me. Has anyone seen this fashion trend? The flowers are carnations. The stems' bottom is tucked behind a fold in the dress. They are probably pinned to the belt. On the other hand, I do believe the photographer added the flowers later. There are no shadows on the dress from the flowers. For a matter of fact, there is a line of lighter gray/ almost white pixels around the edge of the flowers. There are some unusual pixels that don't seem to belong. I am very experienced to working with photos at this high of magnification. Her pupils do seem to be painted. There is no definition/variation in the pixels' color/shades like with normal photos. Her right eye is also closer to the bridge of the nose than the left. Judging by the shadows around her eyes, they are normally open. The shadow that I saw under her left ear is the chair. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is this real or not?
A correction about the flower...I am almost positive that the flower was added later. The stem does not go into a fold line, it just ends abruptly before a normal cutting position. Behind one of the leaves there is a spot that does not appear on the leave. If it was a good sized spot on the photo, it would have discolored on the leaf. Thank you Beteena for finding the image. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is this real or not?
Patricia, This white line is only three pixels deep. The white part is online one pixel deep. I think it is probably a scratch on the photo or something on the scanner glass or a bobby pin. At only three pixels, I believe it is a scratch. I run across a lot of photo scratches like this. There is no hint of a lightened spot like this on the opposing side. Ron, do you know of an online image for a head prop like your wife mentioned? Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is this real or not?
Good eye Carol! I hadn't notice before the right temple/out lid. This looks like someone painted digitally on it. I noticed the specs on the man's suit too. Ron, was their a type of airbrushing on photos during this time. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is this real or not?
Thanks Ron for the images of head braces. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 2010 Oscar Nominations
Art Direction: Avatar The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus Nine Sherlock Holmes _ Costume Design: Bright Star Coco Before Chanel The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus Nine The Young Victoria Make-up: II divo Star Trek The Young Victoria _ Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes
Thank you to everyone for the information and sources. I am talking with the film's marketing agent at 4:00. One of my requests is to have larger resolution photos. I have the costume renderings at 600 dpi. They look great online in Zoomify software. You can see every brush stoke. My only worry is that they will not show up for someone with a dial-up connection. I have online some renderings that are not on the film's website. Some of the rendering pages include a photo from the film and/or video from the particular scene. You can start at: http://www.costumegallery.com/Victoriafilm/renderings/LGimages/rend1.htm Navigate the renderings by the next costume at the bottom of the webpage. I should have the rendering index page by late tonight. I do have more photos to add and descriptions. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes
I am working on an online area about the costumes worn in the film The Young Victoria. I have full press access to the resources for the film costumes. I am researching Victoria's actual garments. Does anyone know of online images of Victoria's actual wedding and coronation dresses? Also, I am looking for the actual newspaper articles with or without illustrations, paintings, photos of the actual garments, etc.. BTW, the film has been released to more U.S. theaters this past weekend. I know Regal Cinemas is now playing it in their larger theaters. The film's costumes and hairstyles are wonderful and well worth seeing. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes
There are painted costumes. I put online an interview with the film's costume designer, Sandy Powell. She explains about the painted costumes in the interview. http://www.costumegallery.com/Victoriafilm/SandyPowell.htm Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1968 Trade Journals and Terms
Thank you to everyone for your help with the terms and suggestion of other journals. Does anyone recall hearing the term D-B used for double-breasted jackets. I am just wondering if this was abbreviations as an industry term. I was a salesperson in menswear 10 years later and we never referred to double-breasted jackets as D-B. I asked my mother who is pretty knowledgeable in fashion and never heard the term B-D. I recall a tennis neckline...V-shaped sweater but not a tennis collar. Oh! The good old days...I played tennis on our college team. Another questionable term from 1968... Lets go the opposite direction!!! What is a B-D man's knit shirt? Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Bridal fashions
Recently I went at a bridal show and was really surprised by how many new wedding gowns that look like Victorian bridal dresses. Some were like the narrow skirt and some were full blown bustles with the horse's rump. We photographed the fashion show. I went to several vendors to pick up catalogs. I laughed so much!!! Every vendor asked me, What is your date? This threw me the first time. No one has asked me in 22 years when I was pregnant with my last son. I just finally came up with a pat answer, 31 years ago! One booth was for a local bridal association. They are mediator for complaints between the bride and anyone that is associated with the bridal industry. They refer to themselves as the BBB for local bridal businesses. I asked what were the major problems for the businesses. They said that potential customers come into the bridal shops and try one a lot of dresses. The customer would write down the dress number and manufacturer. Then they will go online and find it cheaper and order it. The organization suggests to retailers to anyone who comes in the door to check their cell phone and cameras at the counter before showing them a dress. When the customer is leaving, the retailer returns the items. I working on a wedding fashion history website. Does anyone know of past or present bridal trade associations? Also, I am curious as to where are the current bridal buyers' marketplace. I know where the womenwear, menswear, childrenswear, and Halloween costume markets are. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Trade Journals
I have been reading industry trade journal Clothes from 1968. There are a couple of terms that I haven't come across during this time frame. What is a tennis neckline for women? Can someone please point me to an image of one. Menswear: What is a d-b blazer? What does the d-b stand for? I have been looking to purchase more of these journals for years without luck. I can not find what was the run time of this publication. My issue are Vol. 3, so I assume this was the third year of publication. The publisher is PRADS and the magazine was produced twice a month on the 1st and 15th monthly. I really like the trade journals for the history of fashion industry. I have some 1890s Dry Goods Economist journals. Also, I have two Edwardian era books published by the National Wholesale Dry Goods Association...these were their annual symposium meetings and reports. I have a few National Association of Retail Clothiers trade journal from the WW1 era. Are there other trade journals that I should be looking for pre-1970? Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] spray adhesives
Thanks From: Kim Baird kba...@cableone.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 8:52:03 AM Subject: [h-cost] spray adhesives The ONLY kind I like to use is Sulky KK2000. It is a temporary adhesive. Everything else, especially Sullivan's, is WAY TOO STICKY, and gets everywhere. It's expensive, so I stock up when there's a sale. Kim has any one had problems with the spray adhesives for quilting? Penny ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 9, Issue 13, message 8
has any one had problems with the spray adhesives for quilting? Penny ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Interesting Christmas Presents
Did anyone receive or give some interesting Christmas presents that pertains to historic costume? I received from my son's girlfriend two ladies' hats from the 1930s. One hat was her great-grandmother. Another gift that came in the week before Christmas...a lady donated to my business her research projects from over the years. she owned a costuming business and has changed careers. One box was her correspondence letters and replies to nun's about the history of their habits in their specific order. This was the topic of her PhD. Two more boxes included photos from the 1870s-1950s. One book contained a photo album. Fun! Fun! October November I took two jewelry design classes. I gave, to all the girls in our family, jewelry that I designed based on early 20th Century jewelry. It was a lot of fun making them. As usual, every year I open up my online Library subscription area for FREE. This offer ends Sunday at 10 pm EST (East Coast, U.S.) The passwords change then. To access the Library go to www.costumelibrary.com and click on LOGIN from the right side menu. Library Passwords: Login: cg2003 Password: neb7am66 All of the above is in lower case with no blank spaces before, in-between, or afterwards. You may also enter our other Library related sites with these passwords: www.costumeslideshows.com www.fcdatabase.com (use only the password) www.pasthairstyles.com www.pastdesigners.com www.pasthats.com www.communionhistory.com www.antiquebrides.com This site I am in the process of expanding greatly. The latest wedding photographs additions are not listed on the site. I am redesigning the main site. But you can find the following: ***1920s Weddings photos: http://www.costumegallery.com/brides/1920/weddings/photos/ I am adding more photos this week. For the past three days I have been restoring one photo of a 15 person wedding party. ***1930s Weddings photos: http://www.costumegallery.com/brides/1930/weddings/photos/ Another Christmas present to you all...not H-costume related but fun. I photographed the majority of the Christmas decorations at Colonial Williamsburg, Virginia. The tradition of these natural decorations started in the late 1930s. A lot of people believe that these were the decorations used in Colonial days...a myth. But these decorations started a 20th Century tradition in America called Williamsburg Christmas decorations. The decorations are made with all natural items that would have been grown or imported during Colonial America. Start here to see the photos: http://www.costumegallery.com/Williamsburg/2009/1010984.htm To learn how to make one of these wreaths go to: http://www.colonialwilliamsburg.org/christmas/hist_customs.cfm I hope everyone has a wonderful 2010! Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 13 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Michael's Coupons today's 15% off sale
Sunday Michael's is having a sale of 15% off your entire purchases in-store from 4-10 PM. They have been giving out these coupons all week. You can also use other coupons with the 15% sale. This includes sale merchandise! I have a bunch of 40 to 50% off coupons that I have been saving. So that will make my purchases 55-65% off. So...if Joann's honors other stores coupons, I wonder if they match these sales. I am bringing all my sons' snowbound girlfriends with me to Michaels. We are stocking up. 12 inches of snow is not stopping me! Here's one on me! A 40% off coupon for Michael's that is good through Monday. Print off as many as you like. The coupon states that you can only use one a day. But Friday, I was at the store and they took all of mine. http://mic.michaels.com/mypoints/images/Coupon/40-1.gif Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 13 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Have you seen this magazine cover?
Please, please help! I purchased a magazine bridal cover that had been cut up. I am needing to have the date it was published because I have two photos of brides with this same style lace veil. The cover is from Pictorial Review (PR) from the first half of the 20th Century. The illustrator is McClelland Barclay, a popular magazine cover illustrator. Under the bride illustration is the title Special Easter Feature. The magazine originally costs 10 cents. The former owner cut the publication date off the cover. If you have Pictorial Review magazines can you please check and see if you have this front cover and let me know the publication date. You can see the cover at: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/pictreview_med.jpg I searched Google for a couple of hours and could not find it. I did find this illustrator's PR bridal cover issues for 1915 and 1931. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 12 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Two questions: 20th Century Men's Hairstyle and Wedding Photo Thank You Notes
I am working on a wedding history website and keep coming across a specific men's hairstyle. The hair is parted on the side and fluffs up on the opposing side, sometimes the fluff/tuft is very prominent. Sometimes the style reminds me of the slanted jarhead men's hairstyle. I have seen a lot of this hairstyle in the 1930s. Last night I came across the hairstyle in a mid-1910s magazine. Does anyone know where this hairstyle started and what it is called? I was wondering if a movie star influenced the style. I am thinking maybe it was a young star because the hairstyle seems appear in photos for men under 30 years old. You can see the hairstyle at: http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/viewimage.x//lsdolly/01dbathanks.jpg?vvid=41508342sp=1vsid=1vgp=0vimgs=01dbathanks.jpg,01dbathanksa.jpg,01dbathanksb.jpg,01dbathanksc.jpg copy the entire URL. The man in the couple photo on the upper right. I just purchased this lot of wedding photos. Does anyone know when this type of photo wedding thank you notes became fashionable and went out of fashion? Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 12 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Two questions: 20th Century Men's Hairstyle andWedding Photo Thank You Notes
Sidney, LOL! You are talking a very over-organized person! I still have every email that I have sent and a good many that I have received since 1996. They are all in neat folders on two computers. Actually since my sites over 35,000 webpages, I have used the same organization patterns since my first site began in '96. This is the only way that I can remember where certain webpages are located. The wedding history site will be organized by decades from the 1850s-1970s. I might go as far as the 1990s, since I have purchased some really nice 1990s bride's photos. There will be categories under each decade, wedding photographs, photographs of actual wedding gowns, articles from books and magazines, magazine images, and a devotion section for people to submit family's wedding photos with descriptions. I have been researching weddings here and there, since 1996 when I worked on the Valentine Museum bridal collection and exhibit. They house the largest bridal collection in the U.S. I had a blast! I promised myself that after the Halloween season that I would dive right into this website. I have divided most of my wedding photo collection into decades. Last night, I worked on the 1920s. I had photos on my desk, dining room table and kitchen table and kept running back and forth between them. Now, I have most the 1920s photos dated. I am making a trip to our downtown main Library this week, to go through old magazines to try to date the photos that I am having trouble. After the photos are dated, I will scan them and then work on the images. If the photos have blemishes, I restore them digitally. This is my first time of working on this large of a collection to go online at 300 DPI resolution...makes uploading images a lengthy process. I am using online a piece of software that will accept the high resolution. The software allows the user to zoom in really close and see image details. This project is the most intensive research that I have done in years. I am carrying reference material around with me every where. After dating a photo, I put a post-it on each photo's back or inside the folder with the reference info and circa date. Last I spent an hour dating one photo. LOL! I opened the photo's folder to post-it and there was a hand-written note with the exact date. The note was written in pencil on dark paper so I missed it earlier. I was happy to know my circa date was correct! Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 12 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] How do I wash?
I ruined a beautiful cloak I prewashed in hot, but only once When it was dirty, I washed in cold, and it shrank From: Jill Hadfield j...@jigrah.co.uk To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 2:03:51 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] How do I wash? I use 100% wool a lot and I always put it through a hot wash (sometimes a boil wash) before I do anything with it. Depending on the size of the piece it may also go in the dryer as well. I haven't managed to ruin a piece yet :-D (I treat silk in the same way :-}) Jill At 18:39 03/11/2009, you wrote: I just bought some 100% wool gabardine. I'd like to machine wash it, but am worried I might mess it up. I was thinking--Cold water, tumble dry low. Is that OK? Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume JiGraH Resources - www.jigrah.co.uk Suppliers of products and services for Family and Local Historians Worldwide ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] My Latest Finds
Lately I have been going to estate sales. Sunday, I went to a sale and bought a stunning beaded designer evening gown or wedding gown from the Philippines. The entire gown has gold beads and is accented of large pearl-like beads. It is heavy...weighing app. 25 lbs. The design house is Borja of La Paz St. Iloilo has been making wedding gowns for the 100 years. I tried unsuccessfully to find info on the business online except I did find the latest designer from the family. I rarely just fall in love with a dress, but this one stole my heart. I told them what I do with the costumes and they sold the dress to me for $42. The original asking price was $145. You can see the gown's beading at: http://www.costumegallery.com/beadedgown1.jpg . The entire gown has these beads...the gold beads are metal. I don't know the date of the gown but it does have a metal zipper down center back. The sleeves are short and in a bell shape like the 1890s. When I go to the university, I can put it on a dressform and photograph it properly. This weekend I also bought a late 1940s wedding gown with a very long train, two fur hats/headdresses, three 1930-1940s velvet ladies' hats, a large lot of beaded costume jewelry (I am taking a jewelry design class and need the beads), a beautiful mink collar from the 1930s, and a little mink critter. The critter has everything in tack but the front paws. The dealer told me that women would place it over one shoulder. If the woman had more than one critter, she would hook them together and drape them over her shoulder. About half-way on the my critter's body, there is a small cord with a satin ball. Is this to connect the critters to one another? Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] My Latest Finds: beaded gown photos
I don't normally post photos without a proper photoshoot...but I'll make an exception. Please keep in mind that I just took these in my dining room. You should be able to zoom into the photos. More about the gown...the waistline is at normal or slightly above normal position. The skirt is A-line and full length. Because it is not on a dressform and fully dressed out with undergarments, you do not get the full breath of the skirt. In the photos the skirt hangs straight down because of the beads' weight. There appears to be a newer zipper that has been added at a later date. Beading Close-up: http://www.costumegallery.com/beadedgown1.jpg Front View: Full Length: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/beadedfrontFL.jpg Front View: Bodice: Close-up: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/beadedfrontCU.jpg Back View: Full Length: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/beadedbackFL.jpg Back View: Bodice: Close-up: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/beadedbackCU.jpg Sleeve: Exterior View: Close-up: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/beadedsleeve.jpg Very stiff netting inside the sleeve: it is so stiff that I couldn't fully reverse the entire sleeve http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/beadedINsleeve.jpg Label and interior beading stitches: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/beadedlabel.jpg Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] My Latest Finds: Fur and hats
Marjorie, There are not clips on my little critter. I checked it again and there doesn't appear that clips were removed. Have you seen the critters lined up side by side and worn over the shoulder? The second fur, the collar, has two to three milk pelts. There are strong, covered metal clips on the ends. Something strange about this one...the back has a wide satin ribbon from the label to the clips. One side of the collar has the ribbon that has a baste stitch middle/halfway to the lining. I thought at first that the ribbon loops were for the wearer to place her arms through. But the area of looping is too small. Also I can't figure out why there is basting on one side of the looping. One of the fur hats is very unusual. The hat is kind of pill box shaped. It has a foundation of the same stiff netting like the beaded gown sleeves. See the photos in my previous message. I really like the hat because it reminds me of autumn (my favorite season.) The hat is sectioned with six beige fading to brown velvet leaves. Between the leaves are six strips of red fur, probably fox. The top of the hat has two more leaves and a small beige bow. I have been collecting hats and photographing other collections to go online. I love hats and have been collecting them for years. I deliberately did not try to date them because they were my guilty pleasure. Since going to estate sales, I have been buying up a lot of hats. (My husband jokes that we have a museum in the house.) H-costumer, Kathleen Mitchell, is going to help me date the hats. I still have a lot of photos from VCU's 20th Century hat collection to go online. I am not going to put my hats online until I complete the VCU hats. Right now, I am working on those photos until Nov. 1, then I switch mode to a new antique bridal website. Thank you very much for the grammar correction. It has been a long day and I didn't proofread my first message. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] My Latest Finds: Fur and hat: photos
I took some photos of the fur and leaves hat that I mentioned. Again, these were just taken in my dining room. Please forgive the large plant in the background and skeleton tablecloth. These are large photos that you can zoom into...place your cursor and click on the photo. I would appreciate your opinions as to the dates this hat would have been fashionable. Front View: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/furfront.jpg Side View: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/furside.jpg Overhead View: http://www.costumegallery.com/temp/furOH.jpg Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] My Latest Finds: beaded gown photos
I took the gown to my jewelry class for my teacher to identify the type of beads. She said all of them are glass. The three stands of gold bugle beads are unusual. They are gold in the middle and brown on the edges. I have thought about the gown's date all day. When I was teaching at VCU, there were a lot of beaded dresses in two decades, the early 1960s and 1980s. The 80s would work with the sleeve but dresses with that sleeve generally had a full gathered shirt. My gown's skirt is not gathered. Someone mentioned to not look at the sleeve for dating purposes. I think Kathleen is correct with the date. I thought about VCU's collection and two early 60s costumes stood out in my mind. There was a scalloped beaded dress that looked like the fish scales. The other costume was a cape with layered rounded petals that reminded me of bird feathers. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Vinegar, yuck!
Yes, but the pet smell cleaner works on many things (including dead bodies) so it might be worth the trial From: Michelle Plumb mpl...@wideopenwest.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, October 15, 2009 12:31:04 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Vinegar, yuck! Are you sure it is vinegar and not cat or dog pee? Either can leave a lingering sour smell. There are some cleaners specifically for that, at pet stores.. No pets, Dawn. Urgh, I'm glad it isn't that! Michelle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Vinegar, yuck!
We use vinegar in the rinse cycle to set some runny dyes from India. My mother uses vinegar a LOT. I run a second wash, sometimes more, to get the smell out. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Query on sewing machines
Don, Sorry to hear the news. I purchased a Brother (not sure of the model number) and not happy with how lightweight it is. It moves all over the place when I sew. I am going back to vintage and antique machines. The stitches are good and lots of fun attachments...I am searching online tonight to find out what all the attachments do for a newly acquired treadle. You might want to check craigslist.org for you location. There are sewing machines old and new there frequently. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Looking for Kathleen Mitchell
If Kathleen is still on the list, can you please email me privately. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Off Topic: Volunteer Beta Testers Needed!
We are adding costume videos to our website. We are looking for volunteer beta-testers who can check the video areas. I am specifically looking for volunteers who have dial-up connections and/or RAM lower than a gig. In return for volunteering, I am offering a free subscription to our Library website, www.costumelibrary.com that will be good until Oct. 31. If you are interested in volunteering, please email me privately and let me know what type of internet connection and the amount of RAM that your computer has. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] HELP!
My goal today is to see about finding somewhere that has a projector, maybe the library, or even finding a cheap one I could pick up at the office supply store. Michaels or Hobby Lobby, they have a variety of prices From: ladybeanofbun...@aol.com ladybeanofbun...@aol.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:53:40 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] HELP! Hi all. Well, I started battling the grid method last night. I started by tracing the pieces onto the 1/4 graph paper and I felt like everything was going great... and I knew exactly how to dive into the next step, which is redrawing the unscaled pieces using the 1 grid cutting board. Here's where I tripped... the pieces are in 1/8 scale. Two pieces provided however are in 1/4. I began to question how I am supposed to do the enlarging from that scale and maybe I was just overtired but nothing was making anymore sense to me so I stopped for the night. My goal today is to see about finding somewhere that has a projector, maybe the library, or even finding a cheap one I could pick up at the office supply store. Either way, I mean no matter how I enlarge them it is true, I already knew that doing mock-ups from muslin will be my first chore before I start planning how much material to get from a finished pattern set. Luckily, hopefully, I have time for this trial and error period. I will be wearing the full period undergarments under the dress, nor do I mind the period-correct limited range of motion that was designed into the clothing. It's probably the shoulders and height I'll have to adjust since while I'm not tall, 150 years ago I would be considered so, and my arms tend to be a tad unproportionately longer than they probably should be, even for today. Right now I'm worried just about getting full size patterns. T __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] HELP!
I use copies of patterns in Excel and use it to increase the size of the pattern Good luck From: ladybeanofbun...@aol.com ladybeanofbun...@aol.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:42:17 AM Subject: [h-cost] HELP! Hello all, I am in need of some help from an experienced pattern enlarging bustle dress maker! I woud like to throw together my first bustle dress, or make for myself a bustle since my budget is not allowing any new acquirements. At one point before I got very enthusiastic about doing this, as I have many times, but got so overwhelmed before even starting due to facing the dred task of grading that it never came into fruition. I would try ordering a pattern from one of the many good sellers of period patterns, but I want something very specific, I don't have time to wait for one to arrive, and I can't afford to spend on one (especially since I spent so much for the three books new which have hundreds of patterns). The pieces given scare me in each scaled down pattern, because I know quite often, to acheive from the basic pieces the glorious ensemble presented in the illustrations, there is usually a good deal of improvising and use of skill the handy seamstress must utilize to do so! Here are my main questions. 1: How do I enlarge the tiny pieces in the book the simplest, quickest, or least math saavy way? 2: Once I have the pieces enlarged and they are adjusted to my size and I'm ready to cut, how do I assemble a bustle skirt?? These are NOT simple one or two sentence answers I know, but any guidance would be greatly appreciated right about now. I've used period patterns that I bought multi-sized and kinda had to play with those until they fit me the right away and could figure out basic construction but this seems so daunting having never done it before. Thank you so very much for the kind person who can help, and to all others for your patience:) Regards, Justine. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Remove Moth Ball Smell
Does anyone know how to get rid of the smell of moth balls out of cotton fabric? Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hose with seams
Bygones vintage clothing store, http://www.bygonesvintage.com/ in Richmond, VA has them. If they are not on the website, call them. I have gotten the seamed hose in their actual store. BTW, if you are ever in Richmond this is a wonderful store. The fashion window is always so much fun to see. The atmosphere is really fun...like you have walked back in time. Also, if your friend holds out a month, the Spirits Halloween stores carry them. I have seen them in lingerie stores too. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Bygones window displays
Oh! You can see some of Bygones window displays online! YEA! http://www.bygonesvintage.com/*widgets/gallery/detail.jspy?G=011107014P=80021644F=/photos.nxglocale=en_USA=1 Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Balticon Some Costume-Con Costume Photos
I have all my photos of the costumes at Balticon's Masquerade online. There are in a free access area. http://www.costumegallery.com/Balticon/2009/ . There are 35 sets of costumes with 144 views. Some costumes may have multiple views, front, back, side, fabric, and detailed close-ups. The software I use for extreme close-ups is Zoomify. You may used the software on several museum sites. I love it because you can view so close to be able to count individual beads, such as in this costume: http://www.costumegallery.com/Balticon/2009/LGimages/set1/PAT1010091.htm There is one lady whose costume, Amethyst Princess Moonlight Fairy, was at Balticon and Costume Con. Also the entire second index page, http://www.costumegallery.com/Balticon/2009/page2.htm , were at both events. H-costumer, Judy Mitchell, coordinated a special photo session with me for their large group called Steam-punk Costume-Con 1889. This was the funniest presentation at both events. There were 17 members in the group. Their costumes are wonderful! I have two slideshows online from Costume-Con in the same software. You can get to them at: http://www.costumeslideshows.com/ . I am working on my third and final photos from Costume-Con, the Sat. night masquarade. This section will be massive. For example, there are nine photos of Sandy and Pierre's wonderful presentation of Egyptian Gods. The photos are so cool! We have had the best time traveling this year to photograph costumed Cons and museum collections. It is so much fun to meet the people and have them tell us about how they made their costumes.One of my favorite collections to photograph was Liberace's costumes. I was drooling! I grew up watching Liberace. That collection will go online after Halloween. I have a really big Halloween project to get online (hopefully next month). My crew is working on the Halloween trade fashion shows' video. We will be putting the videos online...a first for us! My crew is wanting to go back to Vegas. They got addicted to gambling, the shows, and buffets! (The children must play!) Our next trip will hopefully be to Pennsic or World Con to photograph costumes. We are trying to figure out which one is better and the expense. We have to travel to Mississippi the prior to take our son to college. Following Pennsic or World Con week, we are in Scranton, PA (hubby's business and my antique shopping), and then hopefully to NYC for the weekend. Off to play with more photographs! Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1960s hippie fashions
This conversation came to mind tonight while watching fireworks. Many young adult women were wearing tie-dyed maxi skirts. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Historic sewing conferences in the US?
Comic Con is during July in San Diego and will be broadcast live on G4 (cable station). G4 was advertising it Sunday during the Ninja Warrior marathon. You might get to see it on satellite TV. I am giving it up to go to World Con. Right now is Con season. I was at Anime Con Mid-Atlantic this past weekend. It was really fun! They showed so much enthusiasm! I ran across people from Costume Con at AMA. It was great to meet a whole new generation of costumers. Balticon and Costume Con has classes. I am working on Balticon photos right now. I took a wonderful beading class at Balticon. I came upon Costume Con people at Balticon. I finally got to meet Karen Dick there and h-costumer, Judy Mitchell. I love Judy! She set up a special photo session with me for the wonderfully funny CostumeCon 1889-Steampunk Style. I will be spending a day or two prepping those photos. There were 17 people in the presentation. You can find my Costume Con photos at http://www.costumeslideshows.com/ . After I add Balticon photos this week, I am going back and adding the Costume Con Masquerade photos. Costume Society of America has several regional symposiums (sp? forgot the plural spelling.) So if you miss the national, you might catch a regional. CSA national and Costume Con generally run in the same month. The Halloween costume trade shows are in Feb. March. Feb. show was in Houston this past year and Mar. 2010 is in Chicago. There was another in Pennsylvania in April. This is where the dealers go to buy. April's show was open to the public. When I finish putting the images from the past months cons online, I will be putting images from the Las Vegas trade show online. We photographed the fashion shows for Halloween and the lingerie shows. We also videotaped the shows. Here is the website for the Chicago 2010 show: http://www.hcpshow.com/ Two of photographers are trying to persuade me to going back to Vegas for the balloon fashion show that someone mentioned last week. In the mid-Atlantic states re-enactments start generally in March/April and are in full bloom in Virginia in Sept. I followed that circuit a few years ago booking two events a day on weekends. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Con Classes
I agree you have to watch what classes you take. I had a 50/50 experience on the classes at Costume Con. I took one class about the history or timeline of carnival/masquerade patterns. It was fun and educational to see how these types of patterns evolved from the late 1890s to present day. Another class that I took was sub-par. I missed a couple of classes because I slept late. I really wanted to take the beading class but missed it. I loved the beading at Balticon. I have always wanted to learn beading. The Costume Society national symposiums that I had attended did not have hands on workshops. I liked the day trips to museums. There are some boring speakers and topics at National. I just had tea breaks with some nice people during those times. This didn't occur as much at the regional level. They used to have good classes at the Wearable Arts/Vintage clothing/Quilt show in Williamsburg, VA. The wearable arts part was dropped and the show moved to Hampton. The show is presently not as good as it used to be. Maybe one day, I will make it to Costume College. I wish we had one the East Coast. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Historic sewing conferences in the US?
putting my fingers in my ears and closing my eyes I have been to three cons since May 1 and a Halloween costume trade show in March. I am hoping to go to World Con in August. My camera and laptop have had a work out! Now I am rushing to get all the photos online. Costume College is sometime soon. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Need Ruff Making Advice
A first for me, I am making a ruff. I read the ruff advice area on Drea's website, but am confused if it is better to cartridge pleat or just gather pleats in groups. Is there a good site with illustrations about how to make the ruff? My son and I are making an anime costume http://www.geocities.com/eyesofaclown/images/Perriot.JPG . Does anyone have advice on how to attach the ruffles to the band. I followed the ruff calculator on Drea's site and put in the measurements as follows: ruff depth: 5 inches width of each sett: 2 inches ruff height: 4 inches Will the ruff height at the band be 4 inches? If not, how high will it be at the neckband? Will it fan to 4 inches at the outer edge? I am also looking for advice on starching a ruff. Many thanks in advance. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Need Ruff Making Advice
Franchesca, So would the pleats that attaches to the band, be 1-2 deep? Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history - Original Message - From: Chiara Francesca chiara.france...@gmail.com To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Need Ruff Making Advice I have a process that I pushed online a while ago on how to make a quick and dirty ruff. http://www.glove.org/costume/ruff/index.html ♫ Chiara Francesca « Ehi Prof.! Che cosa facciamo stasera?» « Quello che facciamo tutte le sere, Mignolo: tentare di conquistare il mondo! » (hint: italian) -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Penny Ladnier Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:03 PM To: h-costume Subject: [h-cost] Need Ruff Making Advice A first for me, I am making a ruff. I read the ruff advice area on Drea's website, but am confused if it is better to cartridge pleat or just gather pleats in groups. Is there a good site with illustrations about how to make the ruff? My son and I are making an anime costume http://www.geocities.com/eyesofaclown/images/Perriot.JPG . Does anyone have advice on how to attach the ruffles to the band. I followed the ruff calculator on Drea's site and put in the measurements as follows: ruff depth: 5 inches width of each sett: 2 inches ruff height: 4 inches Will the ruff height at the band be 4 inches? If not, how high will it be at the neckband? Will it fan to 4 inches at the outer edge? I am also looking for advice on starching a ruff. Many thanks in advance. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
