Yummy! Love your palate!
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How fortunate can you get?
I just got back from Rome.
Found a wonderfull silk supplier near Piazza Cavour who claims he has more
I'd double it.
Sg
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Subject: [h-cost] Ruff question
I want to make an Elizabethan ruff. I have some fine linen, but the selvedge
Here are some links of interest.
http://www.csupomona.edu/~plin/women/images/duparc_big.jpg
That one is just a slightly better picture of the same painting,
Then there is this one. - another image of a similar cap.
http://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/collection/international/painting/d/ipa00181.html
Not
This was brought up on another list. If you have never used this, you
should. It is a fabulous website. www.bildindex.de
http://www.bildindex.de/
Click on the British flag and then use the Expert Search...you could spend
DAYS here!
Sg (who has spent days there).
While poking around, I found this picture, and was a little surprised to see
what the fellow on the left was doing next to the dining room table.
http://tinyurl.com/29t36b
In an attempt to assure myself of what I thought I was seeing, I thought I
would look it up on Bildindex since
I can't help you but I will be interested in what you find. My friend who
is quite good at embroidery always makes fun of mine because it looks
horrible on the back (okay, it doesn't always look great on the front side
either.) She claims it should look almost as good on the back as one the
I'll go look, but as I recall there were various widths available during
these times. I know for sure that an ell was different lengths in different
places at different times. Some widths were surprisingly wide...like 60
inches. I'll get back to you.
Sg
Found this... http://www.siegelofca.com/view_verlane.asp?id=144
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Do anyone
I've not read this one, but just finished reading The Rose of Martinique
http://tinyurl.com/2ppcjp, a biography of Josephine Bonaparte. There are
some interesting anecdotal notes about fashion through the revolution into
the directorial period, empire etc. I was not aware until I had read this
Rats...could you send it to me as well, or if you are willing to share I
could put it up on a webpage.
Thanks,
Sg
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Does this ring bells for anyone?
--Robin
Yes it does. I sent a file with
Bjarne, have you ever tried stumpwork? I have a wonderful book on it
http://tinyurl.com/3x42t6 and though I stink at embroidery, I've even
managed to make some pretty cool stuff.
Even if you never made any of the things in this book, it is wonderful eye
candy. She - Jane Nichols - has a website
Whoops - I got over zealous in deleting and lost the post about which I am
inquiring. Someone in response the Monkey claw buttons subject said they
were weaving buttons on a loom? Can you share more about that?
Thanks,
Saragrace
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Thought some of you might be interested. If not for this particular item,
there may be some other goodiesmight have to spend some time here!
Sg
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Gosh, I do this on a regular basis if I have permission of the person who
wrote the note...maybe I am missing the point; who is supposed to be the
offended person? The recipients or the person who wrote the original note?
Confused in AZ,
Sg
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Thought some of you might be interested. If not for this particular item,
there may be some other goodiesmight have to spend some time here!
Sg
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They didn't have opened toes either did they? BTW - I hated the movie - I
thought it was completely boring. I'm not in a position to comment on the
costume of the period...
Irrespective of all that, I think it is cool to see the influence on modern
dress. Complete accuracy aside, it is a fun
Katherine Barich, who many of you probably know from other the Ren Tailor
and German Ren lists, has found a very interesting find! She has given me
permission to repost this message.
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Katherine Barich, who many of you probably know from other the Ren Tailor
and German Ren lists, has found a very interesting find! She has given me
permission to repost this message.
Sg
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Sorry if this is a repost, I dont see it showing up on the list.
Katherine Barich, who many of you probably know from other the Ren Tailor
and German Ren lists, has found a very interesting find! She has given me
permission to repost this message.
Sg
Hi, this is OT, but I know you guys know a lot. I have been asked by an 8th
grader who is over 6 feet tall to make a graduation dress. She doesn't
really have any ideas of what she wants. Do you know of a resource which
will tell what styles look best on tall girls?
Thanks!
I thought it was in this book. I thumbed through about 5 times and never
managed to find it...thanks for the page number!
Sg
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Aha! I will write the museum. Those postcards are fabulous. I got one of
Elizabeth Buxton, scanned it at high resolution, and was able to see lots of
details. Thanks!
Sg
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] Books with these images in them.
WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Holbein's English Burgher's wife (In color - I have it in black and
white)
http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/english.jpg
A Fete at Bermondsey
Hi Rebecca, have you considered purchasing fabric online? Most of the
places now will do swatching. I use the following all the time:
http://www.denverfabrics.com/
http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/ (you do not have to be a member)
http://www.designerfabrics.to/shop/scripts/
Even if you don't
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Have you seen any references to dying fur, not just the leather, in
anything from 1100-1600?I've only seen one reference to fur of
purple, but I am not sure it was dyed. I figured they dyed leather,
hair, and cloth...you'd
Without going and checking for sure, as I recall, there were no boned
corsets in Eleanora's inventory. No you don't need the unboned bodice
if you wear the corset et all.
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Whoops...I guess I never let anyone know...my site is here:
www.saragrace.us
Same ole stuff unfortunately...life has been in my way...
Sg (aka WickedFrau)
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(the original site has
I missed the original post, sorry if I repeat what was said earlier.
Have you looked at Millia Davenport's book (s)? -The Book of Costume-
I find it a good place to start when researching something new because
it gives a decent regional overview in one place. You can pick it/them
(it come in a
Milk??? Hmmm, now I have heard of textiles made from the cellulose in
soy, but milk? I can't remember right now which product, but either
Silk soy milk, or Vitasoy has a little history of all the textile
stuff that Henry Ford tried to use soy for. Some of my spinner friends
don't
Research the stuff on Rowenta - I have one for everyday ironing and it
is okay, but as they age they spit etc. The commercial ones that
Greenberg and Hammer offer are awesome...pricey but awesome. I have
heard good things about the Euro-pro, but have not used those myself.
Kim Baird
Nancy, thank you so much for posting these pictures. I am sorry I
missed the original post. Can you explain again the information on the
white linen garment (from Chartres?) and the last colored picture
http://www.flickr.com/photos/maddnancyphotos/127491641/?
Thanks,
Sg
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If you have ever been intimidated by making welt pockets, Threads issue
122 has a solution. I have tried many welt pocket techniques over the
years, and this works beautifully. It uses a silk organza facing and
fabric glue (yes). Try it, you'll like it! It completely takes the
mystery
The Costume Society offers a number of different awards/grants. Some of
which do not require being a student.
Sg
Robin Netherton wrote:
Someone mentioned this to me:
http://www.costumesociety.org.uk/newstuff/Awards/patterns.html
Deadline April 30, but there are so many people here who use
Hi all, I have been asked to do some research on what Turcopoliers wore
in the 11th and 12th centuries. I have gone through Worldcat, and of
course nothing comes up about them directly. I am sure I will have to
start in some general arms/armour book and was wondering if anyone on
the list
Lovely work Kathy, thank you.
Sg
Kathy Page wrote:
Hi Rachel, welcome to the list. :-)
http://outoftheattic.homeip.net/Venetian_Masks.html
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Whoops, now I see the photo on your home page, but can't find the one I
was refereeing to. You are standing in some sort of encampment with
your little dutch cap on. Are those the same? Your stays almost look
shiny...the other I thought looked sort of woolly.
Sg
Masks and Masking in Medieval and Early Tudor England by Meg Twycross
and Sarah Carpenter has a HUGE (30 pages long!) bibliography. They
constantly reference masking on the continent as a source because it
took longer to catch on in England. I would bet a confectionery that
you could find
I like the furry one, but also love the red (wool?) one? Reminds me,
from the front, of Breughel type jackets, except with a placket. Do you
have a picture of it without the 'kerchief? (also, if you could point
me to a painting?)
Thanks,
Sg
Glad to see you back!
I agree, I keep mine in a round tin. It must have enough airflow that
I do not get this smell. I have recently been amazed at what a good
airing will do for costumes. I have been working in a very smoky
environment, and a few days airing has pretty much done the trick...more
tenacious
Very nice! Thank you. I'd never seen that one!
Susan B. Farmer wrote:
Found another one
http://www.weissgallery.com/detail.asp?id=26category=current
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I'd stay away from anything modern for any period corset. You just
won't get the shape you want. As a starting place, look at Drea's well
used corset generator.
http://costume.dm.net/custompat/If you are new to this style, look
carefully at the shapes in paintings for comparisons to later
Katherine, have you tried any of the fabric finder, or fabric sourcing
sites? I have had particular luck with this group
http://www.fabrics.net/swatch/ , but also just happened to google on
this site-I hadn't asked for green leaves, but look what came up!
Wish I could remember where I read this, but there was a discourse by
someone (Samuel Pepy's perhaps?) on how, the tailors were in some kind
of conspiracy (tongue in cheek) of switching from points to hook and
eyes which didn't free men up from having to have some one dress them.
Sg
Dang! How'd I miss this?! I'll be signing up. I can only imagine
what you all a have been talking about since 1991!
Sg
E House wrote:
Yes, there is:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Historical_Corsets/
I'm the list owner, and there's no fetish stuff allowed!
-E House
Pleats or gathers where? Sleeves or peplum? Gathers for the sleeves,
pleats for the peplum is my vote!
Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote:
Sg
Who wishes she had a boyfriend like Bjarne!
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Sounds lovely. The subject line certainly conjured up wonderful
images. Yep, Dharma is where I would start. I have had great success
in combining colors to get something they don't have off the
shelf. Keep us posted!
Sg
Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote:
Hi,
Perhaps Dharma Trading have, i
Hi Julie, you can post pictures here if you like. You can create a new
ablum. I sure wish someone would use it!
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=hcostume
The userid is: indra2006
Sg
Julie wrote:
Maybe I'm just too used to the Yahoo groups, but does this list have a
Oh my, oh my...you have been busy...love the prince and Thumbelina.
Thanks for sharing.
Sg
http://www.kipar.org/salacious-historian/sewingprojects.html
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I know this may sound kind of sappy, but I really love this list. The
topics and tangents we talk about are just wonderful.
I am an engineer and I work with some pretty boring people. You guys
keep my creative juices alive.
Thanks!
Sg
Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote:
Not a reply to the
Very interesting. I live in an area where the water is over fluoridated
(is that a word?) People moving into new developments have to sign a
release that they understand the water is not good for children
(discolors teeth). I have not experienced any excessive problem with
bleeding. We are
Ooooh, these look like fun! Thanks
Sg
Joannah Hansen wrote:
Admittedly, this came from fiction, but the author is pretty careful about her
research - I *think* I read, in passing, that the chariot team supporters did
show their support by wearing their their teams' colours, at least at the
What is issue 230? Whad' I miss?
Kahlara wrote:
It has been a busy week, but finally able to get back to the costume list. Am I the only one that did not recieve issue 230?
Attended a class on equestrian barding this weekend, and one of the things that came up in discussion was the aside
I was rewatching Gladiators this weekend and wondered if there were some
color system to the toga trims. In some scenes there seemed to be
groups of black trim, red and I think blueanyone aware of any
historical information for this?
Thanks,
Sg
Hi Roscelin, this depends a lot on the style...can you show us a picture
of what you are trying to make?
Sg
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Is there anywhere I can see how this is done? This is the first time I've
heard about this technique. I was always under the belief that drawstrings
were
Boogers, link didn't work..
Kathy Page wrote:
I'm sprucing up a pair of kid gloves to look more
elizabethan, and have decided this is what I want them
to look like:
http://ca.geocities.com/absynthe30/avatars/hand.jpg
(hopefully tht link works, it said it uploaded just
belong
to other historic interest lists who, I'm am sure, wouldn't mind more
folks coming in as well!
Please feel free to have people sign up and I will approve as soon as I can!
-GM-
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Hi, I and several others who belong to the Historic Costume List, were
Saw this on my way to look at the Spanish Medieval book Janet
recommended...thought some of you might be interested.
Sg
Item Number: 47054
*Title: Fashion and Fiction: Dress in Art and Literature in Stuart England*
Author: RIBEIRO, AILEEN
*Price: $65.00*
ISBN: 0300109997
Description: New Haven
Wow! What an interesting observation! I too have horses and just
recently bought a new one just so I could dress her and myself up! My
other horses are all Quarter horses, and they just don't suit my
costuming tastes. I had a side saddle made about 10 years ago for this
purpose also, but
As you will be able to quickly tell, the only thing costume related
about this dish is it's nameof course, there too, there is something
lacking. This is an old Dutch recipe of lima green beans. I just
think the name is hilarious, and was wondering if any of you might know
how far back
My mare is an Andalusian/Arab cross and I am about ready to breed her to
a full Andalusian. I am not able to afford the current pure Andy
breed, this is the closest I will be able to come. My dream is to be
able to make many different costumes to ride her with. (I want an
orange/black
One of my ruffs is made from silk organza, and lace, it was pretty stiff
before I starched it. It is actually easier to work with IMHO than
something soft and flimsy
Having done it both ways I prefer something with substance.
Sg
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The setting is just aweson. It looks like so much funif you get
time, could you link the pictures to their larger form? There are some
details that would be fun to look at. Speaking of which what is on the
man's pony-tail in the picture: last column, second row. Is it wrapped
in ribbon?
For whatever reason, it doesn't cause any discomfort. It is a very
comfortable brait does cause an odd shape for the modern taste though!
Land of Oz wrote:
I would think the ugly seam that runs right across the nipple is
going to cause you some serious discomfort if you ride for very
Along these thoughts I had a funny experience a few weeks ago. I needed
to purchase a new sport bra for use while riding horses. I had heard
that the Enell bras *http://tinyurl.com/hgbfl *were the best. When I
opened the package, my first thought was-jeez, I could have made this.
Not sure
I have this exact problem with my hubby too. Here is what I have
proposed to him and he seems close to accepting it. He has even
considered tights as long as his coat comes over his hips.
http://gallery.euroweb.hu/html/b/bruegel/pieter_e/painting/children/
(This by Pieter the Elder)
Look
After a chilly first night at Estrella this year, I was able to purchase
a pair of Merino wool socks at merchants row to keep my tootsies warm
for the following nights. They are soft and not at all itchy. I began
to think how lovely it would be to have an entire nightie made from such
a
kelly grant wrote:
I like how Ninya uses the short bones down the centrefront edges
though, and will try that out as mine are collapsing at the moment. I
also need to make yet another bum roll, mine *still* isn't large enough!
Something we discovered in the process of making the bumroll is
Yeah! I am so glad to see someone else doing these types of gowns. In
doing A Suitable Gown for Her Majesty *http://tinyurl.com/87qbb *
we also chose to put the corset front under the farthingale. Now the
front of this farthingale is flat. In my research I found some wheels
depicted as
Clearly I won't be able to make the class, but I am interested, if you
have a little information, about what materials will be used and what
the process is.
I wonder if it isn't like the kits you can buy over here with a video...
Sg
Tania Gruning wrote:
Hi Bjarne.
My sewing teacher Kia is
So, can you recycle your cuffs into something like a pillow, or little
purse?
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Thank you for putting this together. I was aware of the Max Von Bohen
source, but not of some of the others. There are so many silly truths
being strutted about.it is a good lesson for newbies...do your own
research.
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Bad, Bad, Bad Wanda! Thank you!
Sg
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Tania, you might want to ask Bjarne...he'd probably know.
Sg
Tania Gruning wrote:
Hiya all.
I am wondering if anyone know of any danish noble/royal inventories that are intact? We have had some major royal castle burnings, but could be they were stored elsewhere. I am especially looking
I would consider Robert Trump to be an expert BTW. He is with the St.
Louis Opera still I believe.
Sg
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Just out of curiousity, how much did the color copy cost? Always
looking for cool color pictures -- especially of embroidery!
I have paid up to $100 for a color reprint. That was of a painting not
currently on exhibit (in America) , and supposedly the museum did not
have a color copy
Something which continues to exist, that has escaped the ravages of time.
(I just assumed you had made a little typo there..:)
Sg
Becky wrote:
I've seen the word Exant. What does this mean in costume terms?
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Speaking of which...what makes an expert? Someone who is already
published? Someone who has a degree in history, research, costuming,
or? Someone who has access to primary sources?I am reminded of
someone who considered themselves (grammatically incorrect, but gender
non-specific) an
Sorry, I had sent this to the group owner on accident. (Sheepish grin)
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Me too, I was hoping that others would take advantage of the Picture
Trail album I set up for H-costume for the gift exchange...but now that
they have these free photo albums which everyone can use, I guess it
maybe it isn't necessary?No one is really using it...boo hoo.
Sg
Susan
I think that is a very reasonable price. Just as a guideline, I have a
friend who is a wonderful fiber artist (amongst many other things) she
marks her wares up 200%. Not sure what this would make your bags cost,
but thought it might be an idea to consider. Meanwhile, I am putting on
my
I was just about to askwhen are you going to offer some of these up
for sale? That is your intention right? I think I remember you saying
you were trying to do some smaller items for saleI assume we can
commission you for something special as well?
Sg
Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote:
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Wow-could we get away with these at an 18th century gig?
http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/3035290/c/20.html
WickedFrau wrote:
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Sharon at Collierfam.com wrote:
At our local faire, it is strongly suggested that closed shoes be worn, so
stuff isn't constantly getting in and also so your shoes don't inadvertently
fall off. Plain closed shoes can be found at www.landsend.com Those are what
I wear and I spend most of the day
Wow, those are nice...thank you.
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I recommend these: http://www.bornshoes.com/asp/shoepage.asp?itemid=M4250 Not
particularly period, but generic enough not to distract, and affordable. I have
the ladies' version
Wow, some of these shoes have a positively period feel to them...is
this a new trend; the more pointy toe?? I am not up on current fashion
at all.
Sg
http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?PAGE=PROFRAMEPROD_ID=1624520
http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?PAGE=PROFRAMEPROD_ID=1624520
Burgidges dolls are awesome.
Here is another artist who is in the LA area:
http://www.galleryhistoricalfigures.com/
This fellow is AMAZING
Too bad the one I know you all would like to get a closer look at comes
up with, although interesting, the wrong doll upon clicking. I have
written the
Those are such awesome dolls, can't wait to see your dolls dressed.
Some links that might interest you:
Awesome faceups:
http://www.bellarepaints.com/enhancements-gallery.htm
Not sure why these dolls appeal to me (other than the fact they are
jointed in 23 differnt places!) the are kind of
I forget which one is POF 1 and 2. Is it Patterns of Fashion: 1660-1860
(Patterns of Fashion)
or is it Patterns of Fashion: The Cut and Construction of Clothes for
Men and Women C1560-1620
I could probably go look at my own, but am too lazy. I see that they
have the dates in the title but are
I saw some of the previous posts and links about this and was curious if
you knew how far back knitting socks on a frame went?
Also...having made the spelling error above in the subject, I started to
wonder how the t started getting left out of stocking...or was it the
other way around?
Yes, and I will look for a picture I have seen where there are women
pulling up their skirst to warm their feet/legs at a fire in a room. It
is almost a cut away picture as if to show the scene of the village,
but what is going on inside the buildings as well. I think I said this
recently
Unitil I read your review I really had no interest in this movie...I
will wait till it is on DVD...but thanks!
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Pictures...We want Pictures!!!
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Why don't you contact the company? I am sure they would help you.
Sg
Beth Chamberlain wrote:
Is there someone who has Patterns of History's avant-garde gown who could
give me the yardage requirements for size 10 (or something close)? I just
ordered the pattern but I'm afraid the fabric I want
Thai Silks sells it. I bought some several years ago to make a mini
sock for a fashion doll.
They sell it in two weights:
034A
http://www.thaisilks.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PRODStore_Code=TSProduct_Code=034A
Silk Knit, 155 Gram, 42
I wasn't assuming anything...I was just providing a source that compared
an English traveler writing about other countries. I am not trying to
provide information to infer that it was more or less common either
Sg
Marc Carlson wrote:
Ok, maybe we could look at this a different way.
It is on its way! FYI, the Vogue sewing book can be picked up for
nothin'. There are some new sewing books out with photographs which are
fab though!
Sg
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That would be great, Sg. Thanks!
Rose
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Fynes Moryson notes that women in Italy (and in parts of Germany) wore
breeches under their gowns...(I think this is online at project )
Gutenberg, if you want to read the account.) He notes these exceptions
in this period (~1598~1604) of time as an anomaly.
Sg
Suzi, if you can't readily come up with a copy, I have the movie and can
capture shots of the gown for you and send them to you.
Saragrace
Suzi Clarke wrote:
I have been asked to quote for a gown from Interview with the
Vampire and cannot find anything other than a very poor shot. It is
If you have the time and patience, there are a number of paintings on
this site that I've not seen before:
One example (besides the one Bjarne shared) :
http://www.kleio.org/frauen/abb17a.htm
And if this is truely a self portrait of Leonardowhoo hoo!
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