Re: [h-cost] What's your dummy wearing this season?
My Laurel cloak (SCA garment). Needs some minor repairs that I have not completed--since August. Not lazy, merely overwhelmed with to-dos. Monica Spence -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 11:56 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dummy wearing this season? My mannequin is wearing a partially completed shift that was a massive fail. I have to re-think the whole thing, so there it hangs. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: R Lloyd Mitchell <rmitch...@washjeff.edu> To: Historical Costume <h-cost...@indra.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 14, 2016 10:37 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dummy wearing this season? One mannequin is holding a robe for Queen Anne, hems and trim are waiting patiently, Queen Maud is fitfully pacing about because her coronation gown is still without the sleeve lace she has chosen and it has not arrived yet. Her white morning robes are constantly being donned and cast aside. I fear they will be dusty before the package has arrived! We have a new client, (Mrs Jack Gardner) Isabella. She has been asked to sit for Mr Sargent and has decided nothing in the closet will do. Measurements have been taken and a lovely bolt of black silk velvet chosen. The patterns are being drafted with the help of friend Miss Grimble. Mona is looking wildly about for pearls We may have to get them matched and restrung as they are to adorn the waist. Wish us God-speed as we have heard that she is Very particular) (Truth be told, after our exploits with Q.Maud, I think we should feel quite practiced in completing this project!!) From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com <h-costume-boun...@indra.com> on behalf of michaela de bruce <michaela.de.br...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 6:18 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dummy wearing this season? I have a display mannequin in the lounge, but she is naked, she is mainly holding a sci-fi alien headpiece up to prevent it deforming. So I'm going to put that on once I finish typing :) My dressform is loaned out to a friend, and the one I have borrowed in replacement is also naked while I tidy my art space. I have just restored my sewing/ironing desk top so I can actually start working again :) I have a new removeable cover to finish sewing as well. Then I can iron huge applique pieces again. As for current projects: Finally finishing my c1600 Spanish gown, stage one anyway. I decided I probably won't have enough trim for the doublet and the galerilla as I thought so doublet is a higher priority. It means all new stays, finishing the underlayers and tracking down lace of a suitable size. While doing this I have documentation to write up, which means a fair amount of scanning so, ugh. Got that to look forward to. I also have an Elsa spring gown to make (Frozen Fever) as the ice gown sleeves can get a little warm at big children's events :) Michaela -- http://arrayedindreams.com https://instagram.com/i.chimaera/ https://www.facebook.com/mdb.i.chimaera ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is h-costume still going?
Thanks for letting me know you are all here. Monica Spence -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Robin Netherton Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 9:31 AM To: Historical Costume <h-cost...@indra.com> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Is h-costume still going? I'm here -- but my first post saying so (from an alternate address by mistake) was rejected. On 12/17/2015 12:17 AM, Carol Kocian wrote: > Hi all, > > Is h-costume still going? I’m trying to change my e-mail address for it, but > the link below does not work. > > Thanks! > -Carol > > > >> ___ >> h-costume mailing list >> h-costume@mail.indra.com >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- Robin Netherton Editor, Medieval Clothing and Textiles ro...@netherton.net voice: (314) 439-1222 Life is just a bowl of queries. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New York garment district
The only thing I've seen is a packet of postcards. Nice, but not much use. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 10:45 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] New York garment district Is there a printed exhibit catalog? Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com On 1/15/2015 7:31 PM, Monica Spence wrote: The Met has an awesome show called Death Becomes Her Mourning clothes from 1800-1915or so. One of Queen Victoria's gowns is on display, and two from Alexandra, Edward's wife. You should not miss it. It is in the costume institute, below the Egyptian Exhibit. I believe the show runs until February. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Brenda Bell Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 9:11 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] New York garment district AtMon, 01 Dec 2014 22:27:11 -0800, humbugfo...@att.net wrote: Also, I've checked the Met and FITM for costume exhibits and there doesn't seem to be anything particularly exciting on their schedules. Can anyone suggest any other museums or exhibitions that would have (historical) costumes on display? I'd check the People Center at the American Museum of Natural History for costumes of indigenous peoples. I might also check the Museum of the City of New York, the New York Historical Society, the Museum of Folk Art, and the American Crafts Museum to see if there will be any interesting exhibits. You might also check to see if you can do some specific study at the Met's Costume Institute, if there's something particular you wish to research. Brenda F. Bell webwar...@earthlink.net Support me in riding the 2015 Tour de Cure to Stop Diabetes! http://main.diabetes.org/goto/tmana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New York garment district
The Met has an awesome show called Death Becomes Her Mourning clothes from 1800-1915or so. One of Queen Victoria's gowns is on display, and two from Alexandra, Edward's wife. You should not miss it. It is in the costume institute, below the Egyptian Exhibit. I believe the show runs until February. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Brenda Bell Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 9:11 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] New York garment district AtMon, 01 Dec 2014 22:27:11 -0800, humbugfo...@att.net wrote: Also, I've checked the Met and FITM for costume exhibits and there doesn't seem to be anything particularly exciting on their schedules. Can anyone suggest any other museums or exhibitions that would have (historical) costumes on display? I'd check the People Center at the American Museum of Natural History for costumes of indigenous peoples. I might also check the Museum of the City of New York, the New York Historical Society, the Museum of Folk Art, and the American Crafts Museum to see if there will be any interesting exhibits. You might also check to see if you can do some specific study at the Met's Costume Institute, if there's something particular you wish to research. Brenda F. Bell webwar...@earthlink.net Support me in riding the 2015 Tour de Cure to Stop Diabetes! http://main.diabetes.org/goto/tmana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New York garment district
I'd suggest you go to Elegant Fabrics on 40th Street, between 7th Ave. and 8th Ave. That will fill up your allotted time all by itself. Best Regards, Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of humbugfo...@att.net Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 1:27 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] New York garment district I'm going to be in New York next spring (mid-March) and I can squeeze in a couple of hours in the garment district, and I'd appreciate some suggestions: If you could only visit two fabric/trim shops, which would be at the top of your list? Also, I've checked the Met and FITM for costume exhibits and there doesn't seem to be anything particularly exciting on their schedules. Can anyone suggest any other museums or exhibitions that would have (historical) costumes on display? Thanks, Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?
A shirt with tiny straps is called a cami or camisole. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Ann Catelli Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 10:50 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank? Tank top because it was worn by tank crewmen, who'd strip down to that layer, UK vest layer, because it was very very hot inside a tank. Ann in CT On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 4:20 AM, Kate Bunting katembunt...@gmail.com wrote: Here in the UK we would call it a vest, because it resembles the undergarment of that name. (Yes, I know a vest is a waistcoat in the US.) Out of interest, I looked at the website of a clothing company I use and they call them vests or occasionally camis, but the distinction between them is unclear. I first heard the term tank top 40 years ago to describe a sleeveless knitted pullover to be worn over a shirt for warmth. The name always puzzled me until I learned from this list that Americans used to call a swimming pool a tank and that the garment was named from those 1920s men's swimsuits. I don't think we would ever call the lightweight garment a tank over here. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Clothing of the Future, 2000
Thanks for the video. I'm going to share it with my Costume History class. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Kim Baird Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 12:57 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Clothing of the Future, 2000 That was hilarious! They did get the see-through mesh right. kim -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of mhprobe...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 11:20 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Clothing of the Future, 2000 This was fun - anything look familiar? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9eAiy0IGBI Melissa Roberts ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Polyester is the great new fiber
FWIW--Polyester now is an ecofriendly fabric. It is made of recycled soda and water bottles. Monica E. Spence, MA, MA, BA, PhD/ in progress Senior Lead Instructor Fashion Studies Department Liberal Arts and Sciences Department The Art Institute of New York City 11-17 Beach Street New York, NY 10013 -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sybella Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:16 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Polyester is the great new fiber Ahh, darn it!! Polyester?? No When I'm shopping for clothing, I look long and hard for natural fibers. Synthetics make my hair stand on end, and as a wavy, I battle unruly curls all the time. I really do not need static making it more difficult for me. Plus, I find it quite bothersome that, according to that article, polyester is a petroleum by-product. I haven't done my research (I avoid polyester anyway) but if it is fossil derived, it is not a renewable resource. Hasn't there been complaints since the 1980s that fossil sources are nearly depleted?? In my opinion, anything that comes from the same source as gasoline doesn't belong on our skin. (Does anyone really like polyester?? LOL!) That said, I'm incredibly disappointed and grossed out that polyester has made a come back. :( 'Bella On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: Polyester. Ick. But it's grown up in the world since the bulletproof variety, and SOME things in poly are actually decent feeling. == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= http://3toad.blogspot.com/ Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW On Mar 31, 2013, at 2:29 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: My new-old Easter dress is polyester (a thrift store purchase), and I have to say, I'm glad the pleats in the skirt could be permanently set. Ann Wass __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.c om/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Italian Widow's Dress?
I went to school at Seton Hill College (now Seton Hill University). It is run by Mother's Seton's Sisters of Charity, so I've seen the bonnet up close. It reminds me of the poke bonnet that became popular in the Romantic and Crinoline periods. A bit early, I know, but just a thought that it may be an early version of the style. Monica Spence -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:15 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Italian Widow's Dress? Notice that she is wearing a bonnet that ties under her chin Now Mother Cabrini's bonnet is very typical of European/American styles of the late 19th century, whereas Elizabeth Ann Seton's does not seem typical of styles of her era. That is why I asked the question about its possibly being an Italian style. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Kathleen Norvell app...@aol.com To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, Feb 27, 2013 7:07 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Italian Widow's Dr Here is a photo of Saint Frances Cabrini (1850-1917). Notice that she is wearing a bonnet that ties under her chin. Not saying it's an Italian style, but as soon as I saw Elizabeth Seton's headgear, I thought of Mother Cabrini. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Xavier_Cabrini Kathy Kathleen Norvell app...@aol.com -Original Message- From: annbwass annbw...@aol.com To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, Feb 27, 2013 6:59 pm Subject: [h-cost] Italian Widow's Dress? I am researching Saint Elizabeth Ann Seton. Supposedly, the habit of the order he founded originated in her widow's dress. She was widowed in 1804 while she as in Italy. Here is a link to a portrait that was supposed to have been ainted then, although I have my doubts. ttp://catholicgene.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/st-elizabeth-ann-seton-1804-p ortrait.jpg?w=417h=529 f course I can accept her wearing black, but that headgear doesn't look like nything I've seen from images at that time. So my question is, could it have een something distinctly Italian? Or does anyone know of images of anything imilar from elsewhere? hanks. nn Wass __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Help - shredding silk :((
Hi Aylwen, Is the embroidery separating from the fabric? Can you catch the threads on the underside with a catch stitch and sew them in a bunch to each motif? Then flat line the fabric in a really lightweight fabric. I could be more helpful if I saw a picture. Can you send it privately? Best Regards, Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Katy Bishop Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 8:55 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help - shredding silk :(( Would fray check work? How big are the motifs? Katy On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.comwrote: I've tried that but it bubbled - because the thickness of the threads under the embroidered flowers prevents it from sticking at that point. *Aylwen * On 18 May 2012 20:39, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Looks gorgeous on the outside but the mbroidery is shedding like mad on the underside. Could you back it with a lightweight fusible? Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 5:12 am Subject: [h-cost] Help - shredding silk :(( Any helpful hints appreciated - I have a commission to make a regency gown rom a woven embroidered silk dupion. Looks gorgeous on the outside but the mbroidery is shedding like mad on the underside. What would you do to it o save the day? It is supposed to be a wow gown and all I feel like doing s crying :( Aylwen Gardiner-Garden* Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy http://www.earthlydelights.com.au Jane Austen Festival Australia* http://www.janeaustenfestival.com __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Image search - help?
Hi Laurie, Try these links. http://vieuxchamps.com/persona/enlarged/wg/wpic11.php http://vieuxchamps.com/persona/wgarb2.php Best Regards, Monica Spence -- On 3/26/12, Laurie Taylor mazarineblu...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, A while back, before Xmas, I was researching sideless surcote pictures online. Had a few images open in tabs, and had a crash before I got them all saved. One in particular is still haunting me. Period painting, a group of people with some emphasis towards the left side of the painting (viewer's perspective) - One woman was seated, turned slightly to her right, the viewer's left. She was wearing a sideless surcote in what would be called pink ...in modern terms, but a deep, rich pink if I recall correctly, and it was draped on the floor around her feet. I've been hunting for this image ever since, and absolutely cannot find it. I'm starting to wonder if I imagined it. I've gone through every Google result that seemed even remotely likely. I'm quite sure that it was not a painting from any sort of Codex. It seems like it was a fairly light, bright painting. I think that it was from the right time for sideless gowns, so not anything like a Victorian fantasy, not a pre-Raphaelite for sure. This image could have been in someone's PDF file, or it could have been right on a web page. I do remember thinking that I'd love to have done a reproduction of whatever her whole outfit was, though the surcote was the most noticeable thing about it, at least at the moment that I was seeing it. I've seen many images of sideless surcotes in what could be called pink, and many of women seated and wearing sideless surcotes, yet this one image eludes me. I know that this is asking a lot, but if this minimal bit of description jogs anything for any of you, I'd sure appreciate any nudges in the direction of images that might be this one. Appreciative of your patience and your help! Laurie T. Phoenix ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- -- Elizabeth Walpole http://magpiecostumer.wordpress.com/ http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Renaissance dance costumes
Cheap and easy: Fabric glue with glitter over it. More expensive Christmas ribbons and small decorative trims by-the-yard. If the show is after Christmas, the trim usually is on sale. Donated buttons make nice jewelry, also. Monica Spence -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Aylwen Gardiner-Garden Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 6:58 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Renaissance dance costumes Dear H-cost list I have to make 20 costumes for an upcoming Italian renaissance performance and have been thinking about using http://www.reconstructinghistory.com/products/rh509-1470s-1500-florentine-wo mans-outfit-1#. Can you think of different ways we can decorate these gowns so they don't all look the same? Plus they need to look grand because we will be on stage under lights. I am still working out what to dress the men in, and fear they will not want to wear short doublets and tights :(( *Aylwen* * * *Aylwen's Historical Costumes* www.aylwen.com http://aylwen.blogspot.com * * *Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy* www.earthlydelights.com.au http://edhda.eventbrite.com * * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help on a c. 1900 rural woman's dress
I have a photo of my grandmother, a farmer's wife in c. 1890, Nebraska. Buttons up the center front like the shirtwaist style dresses we are probably all familiar with. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Kim Baird Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:51 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] help on a c. 1900 rural woman's dress Challe-- The Past Patterns dress would be suitable. The skirt closure on the other pattern can be in any seam. Just include a placket and use hooks and eyes. For work-a-day wear, a rural woman would most likely have a wash dress, that is, a cotton dress, whether of one or two pieces, rather than a shirtwaist and skirt. And definitely an apron. Kim -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Challe Hudson Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:13 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] help on a c. 1900 rural woman's dress My sister is trying to sew something completely outside my area of expertise, but I offered to ask for advice here. She wants an everyday gown for a farm woman to wear (in Piedmont North Carolina, in case that makes a difference). These pages have information she's found useful (though she hasn't bought any patterns. I've been helping her with fittings and we've made up patterns as we went along). What she needs to know now is: where is the opening in the skirt so that you can get it on? And how does the skirt close? If you have any other useful links, images, or construction tips, that would be appreciated, too. http://www.pastpatterns.com/903.html http://www.costumes.org/history/100pages/woolskirt.htm thanks! Challe ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] costume on book covers, argh
The author usually does write the blurbs. My question is HOW COULD the daughter of a robber baron (19th- 20th centuries) marry an ambitious young Norman knight (11th century)? Monica Spence -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Bonnie Booker Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:27 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] costume on book covers, argh Did you see the write-up on one of the Maria books? Maria is the daughter of a robber baron who marries an ambitious young Norman knight. Why would the Baron marry a Knight? LOL The little things bother me too. The author should have approval of the blurbs too. -- *Maistresse Aspasia * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] costume on book covers, argh
Sometimes covers are even reused. Sometimes a certain model is popular (aka: Fabio). Romance novel covers go through phases. Right now there is a trend for headless women (what does THAT say?). Other covers feature a shirtless man-- with or without tattoos. The frustrating thing for an author is the cover. She tell the publisher how she envisions a cover, and gets the exact opposite. My friend got a contract for a book and sent exact ideas (man: James bond type, in a good suit and tie). What she got was a skinny, shirtless, guy with a medallion around his neck. Let's say she was not happy. My personal frustration with novels of historical fiction is when the publishers take a piece of real art work from a period, and use it for the another, completely wrong period. Monica Spence -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Bambi TBNL Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 7:51 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] costume on book covers, argh Often times the costume is orderd in a certain artist model size, color optional. Who designs it is between the writer , the artist and the publisher, the costumes ia not seen as a designer/historian but as the seamstress who almost never has any more info than an artist sketch which they expect precise compliance with. The suggestion tha alteration in this might provide something more *..historically accurate, pleasing, tasteful, is at best met with we are not flexible on this matter and at worst with the business being conducted elsewhere , ( where their order is filled no questions asked, -Original Message- Date: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:27:20 am To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] costume on book covers, argh I'm curious--does anyone know the answer to this question? Do the artists who draw the covers of romance novels just come up with a costume out of their head, or do they pose the models in a costume from a costume warehouse or something? Some novels' covers look almost like photos; the costumes are horrible, but very detailed. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Dunham Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 6:13 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] costume on book covers, argh Just ran across, by accident, 2 new CECELIA HOLLAND's -- hooray. THEN I looked them up online and the covers -- argh! Obviously art-directed at the bodice ripper set! The King's Witch is a Richard II period piece with a not-very-good Ren-faire wench in green, @ http://www.amazon.com/Kings-Witch-Cecelia-Holland/dp/0425241300/ref=ntt_at_e p_dpt_2. And The Secret Eleanor [of Acquitaine], which cover is better but ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Book Covers
I, too, write romances, and I've been fighting the bodice ripper label for years. To me, bad book covers are on the same level as poorly done historical costumes or bad SCA garb. ( I teach Costume History on the college level and my husband and I are in the SCA, so I know from whence I speak.) There is a silver lining in bad book covers. That cover with the three limbs allowed Christina Dodd cover approval for her novels. Likewise, my friend Kristan Higgins got cover control when the artist put the wrong breed of dog on her book cover. Of course, it helps if you are a bestselling New York Times author. Other authors I know must rely on the generosity of the cover gods. :-) Some have really been blessed. Monica Spence -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Valerie Robertson Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 2:39 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Book Covers Um, you guys know that bodice ripper is considered insulting by romance writers, right? Kind of like costume nazi among historical clothing researchers. And since I'm a published romance novelist (science fiction, so the clothes aren't a problem) and have been researching historical clothing for more than two decades, I feel qualified to make the comparison. As far as getting the dress correct on book covers, in 1993 Christina Dodd became infamous because of a cover that went to press with the heroine having THREE ARMS. If Avon, the leading US publisher of historical romances, couldn't get the number of limbs correct with all their editors and a full art department, do you really think they even care if the dress details are correct? For the record, the dress sucked; 14th century kirtle with bell sleeves gathered at her left wrist in a ruffle--yes, a ruffle--at one right wrist without a ruffle, and no cuff, gathering band, ruffle, or sleeve visible at all at the other right wrist. The hero is wearing a Templar tunic, or it might be a white tunic with a red Maltese cross on it (cue eyelid twitch). Of course, that book is a collector's item now and resells for hundreds of dollars, but still, they failed at counting to two. Got seams in the wrong place...visible zipper lines...wrong kind of lacing for the period...neckline that defies physics? Well, yes. Does she have two arms? Hey, it's all good. Valerie Robertson ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] FW: Novità - 'Moda a Firenze 1540-1580'
Not California-- even worse. New York. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Wanda Pease Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:14 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] FW: Novità - 'Moda a Firenze 1540-1580' Bummer about the Tax. Live in California? I wrote to my friend Ian Stevens at David Brown Book Company (which the announcement said was carrying the book) and low he no longer works there. Since he was my absolute favorite and successful book pusher (I'm an addict the way other people are to drugs) they will not get my business. Fortunately Amazon gets enough business on my Amazon card that I have rewards coming and got it for $110 with no shipping or Tax. (the day Oregon puts Sales tax on things you will hear about the cooling trend in H**l) Regina Romsey On 9/16/2011 4:07 PM, Monica Spence wrote: I ordered mine through Amazon last month for about $125.00 USD (plus tax) Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Collier Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 3:17 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] FW: Novità - 'Moda a Firenze 1540-1580' Anyone know if this is a good price? Sharon C. _ From: LeonardoLibri [mailto:i...@leonardolibri.com] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 3:59 AM To: LeonardoLibri Subject: Novità - 'Moda a Firenze 1540-1580' http://www.mauropagliai.it/ http://www.polistampa.com http://www.sarnus.it Gentile Cliente, abbiamo il piacere di segnalare l'uscita dell'atteso volume di R. Orsi Landini Moda ahttp://www.mauropagliai.it/asp/sl.asp?id=5046 Firenze 1540-1580. Cosimo I de' Medici's style / Lo stile di Cosimo I de' Medici (testi in italiano e inglese, ordinabile su LeonardoLibrihttp://www.leonardolibri.com con sconto 20%http://www.mauropagliai.it/asp/carrello.asp?id=5046 ). La moda al tempo dei Medici in un volume Roberta Orsi Landini ripercorre nel suo libro lo stille fiorentino del Cinquecento 'Sobrio, severo, mai eccessivamente guarnito d'oro: questo l'abbigliamento scelto da Cosimo I de’ Medici, primo granduca di Toscana eletto al governo della città di Firenze all'età di appena 17 anni (nel 1537).Uno stile che diverrà poi un modello da seguire,un criterio a cui si sono attenuti anche i suoi successori. Proprio i dettagli dello stile maschile in voga nella Firenze del Cinquecento sono raccolti all'interno dl volume Moda a Firenze 1540-1580. Lo stile di Cosimo I de’ Medici, a cura di Roberta Orsi Landini, che sarà presentato giovedì 15 settembre al Rondò di Bacco di Palazzo Pitti, impreziosito da oltre 120 tavole a colori. Nel suo regno Cosimo abbellisce il Palazzo della Signoria, sede del governo dello Stato e sua residenza per circa vent'anni, con ristrutturazioni, affreschi e opere d'arte, ma nell'abbigliamento sceglie un guardaroba improntato alla modestia, senza seguire mode straniere o fugaci. Vuole che i suoi abiti, caratterizzati dallo stile severo, siano confezionati localmente con lane e con sete, per dare un sostegno all'economia della città. Preferisce indossare abiti con guarnizioni in oro solo nelle apparizioni ufficiali, dove la sua persona deve testimoniare la potenza e la ricchezza dello stato. Nel volume di Roberta Orsi Landini viene ricostruito il guardaroba di Cosimo, dagli abiti di uso quotidiano alle vesti da cerimonia, passando per calzature e accessori. L'analisi di ogni capo comprende note sulla sua provenienza, sulla fattura, sul tipo e sulla quantità di stoffa necessari alla fabbricazione, oltre a un attento esame delle decorazioni. Tra le particolarità l'uso a scopo sanitario del martingala, elemento ritrovato nelle calze funerarie del granduca.(ANSA). Cordiali saluti, Ufficio Promozione Mauro Pagliai http://www.mauropagliai.it/default.asp Home Page http://www.mauropagliai.it/public/images/modaaf99.JPG Sconto 20 %http://www.mauropagliai.it/asp/carrello.asp?id=5046 Carrello http://www.mauropagliai.it/images/1x1.gif http://www.mauropagliai.it/asp/sl.asp?stampa=veroid=5046 http://www.mauropagliai.it/images/stampa.gif Stampa ottimizzata http://www.mauropagliai.it/images/1x1.gif Roberta Orsihttp://www.mauropagliai.it/asp/sa.asp?id=5730 Landini Moda a Firenze 1540-1580 Cosimo I de' Medici's style / Lo stile di Cosimo I de' Medici After Moda a Firenze 1540-1580. Lo stile di Eleonora di Toledo e la sua influenza (2005), the research project goes on, now with male clothing of the same period. Thanks to the papers from the Archivio di Stato of Florence, the author reconstructs the whole wardrobe of Eleonora’s husband, Cosimo I de’ Medici, day by day from 1544 until 1574, that is from the first time notes about the duke’s clothes appeared
Re: [h-cost] FW: Novità - 'Moda a Firenze 1540-1580'
I ordered mine through Amazon last month for about $125.00 USD (plus tax) Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Collier Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 3:17 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] FW: Novità - 'Moda a Firenze 1540-1580' Anyone know if this is a good price? Sharon C. _ From: LeonardoLibri [mailto:i...@leonardolibri.com] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 3:59 AM To: LeonardoLibri Subject: Novità - 'Moda a Firenze 1540-1580' http://www.mauropagliai.it/ http://www.polistampa.com http://www.sarnus.it Gentile Cliente, abbiamo il piacere di segnalare l'uscita dell'atteso volume di R. Orsi Landini Moda a http://www.mauropagliai.it/asp/sl.asp?id=5046 Firenze 1540-1580. Cosimo I de' Medici's style / Lo stile di Cosimo I de' Medici (testi in italiano e inglese, ordinabile su LeonardoLibri http://www.leonardolibri.com con sconto 20% http://www.mauropagliai.it/asp/carrello.asp?id=5046 ). La moda al tempo dei Medici in un volume Roberta Orsi Landini ripercorre nel suo libro lo stille fiorentino del Cinquecento 'Sobrio, severo, mai eccessivamente guarnito d'oro: questo l'abbigliamento scelto da Cosimo I de’ Medici, primo granduca di Toscana eletto al governo della città di Firenze all'età di appena 17 anni (nel 1537).Uno stile che diverrà poi un modello da seguire,un criterio a cui si sono attenuti anche i suoi successori. Proprio i dettagli dello stile maschile in voga nella Firenze del Cinquecento sono raccolti all'interno dl volume Moda a Firenze 1540-1580. Lo stile di Cosimo I de’ Medici, a cura di Roberta Orsi Landini, che sarà presentato giovedì 15 settembre al Rondò di Bacco di Palazzo Pitti, impreziosito da oltre 120 tavole a colori. Nel suo regno Cosimo abbellisce il Palazzo della Signoria, sede del governo dello Stato e sua residenza per circa vent'anni, con ristrutturazioni, affreschi e opere d'arte, ma nell'abbigliamento sceglie un guardaroba improntato alla modestia, senza seguire mode straniere o fugaci. Vuole che i suoi abiti, caratterizzati dallo stile severo, siano confezionati localmente con lane e con sete, per dare un sostegno all'economia della città. Preferisce indossare abiti con guarnizioni in oro solo nelle apparizioni ufficiali, dove la sua persona deve testimoniare la potenza e la ricchezza dello stato. Nel volume di Roberta Orsi Landini viene ricostruito il guardaroba di Cosimo, dagli abiti di uso quotidiano alle vesti da cerimonia, passando per calzature e accessori. L'analisi di ogni capo comprende note sulla sua provenienza, sulla fattura, sul tipo e sulla quantità di stoffa necessari alla fabbricazione, oltre a un attento esame delle decorazioni. Tra le particolarità l'uso a scopo sanitario del martingala, elemento ritrovato nelle calze funerarie del granduca.(ANSA). Cordiali saluti, Ufficio Promozione Mauro Pagliai http://www.mauropagliai.it/default.asp Home Page http://www.mauropagliai.it/public/images/modaaf99.JPG Sconto 20 % http://www.mauropagliai.it/asp/carrello.asp?id=5046 Carrello http://www.mauropagliai.it/images/1x1.gif http://www.mauropagliai.it/asp/sl.asp?stampa=veroid=5046 http://www.mauropagliai.it/images/stampa.gif Stampa ottimizzata http://www.mauropagliai.it/images/1x1.gif Roberta Orsi http://www.mauropagliai.it/asp/sa.asp?id=5730 Landini Moda a Firenze 1540-1580 Cosimo I de' Medici's style / Lo stile di Cosimo I de' Medici After Moda a Firenze 1540-1580. Lo stile di Eleonora di Toledo e la sua influenza (2005), the research project goes on, now with male clothing of the same period. Thanks to the papers from the Archivio di Stato of Florence, the author reconstructs the whole wardrobe of Eleonora’s husband, Cosimo I de’ Medici, day by day from 1544 until 1574, that is from the first time notes about the duke’s clothes appeared in official documents till the death of Cosimo. The founder of the grand-ducal dynasty created his public image with great care and determination, but Roberta Orsi Landini focus attention as well on Cosimo I’s personal tastes. The book describes fashion development in Florence through the analysis of items from the duke’s wardrobe and makes confrontations with potrait-paintings in order to define when new styles started up and which were the most favourite colours, materials and decorations of the period. Besides, the manufacturers panorama is meticulously reconstructed. Synoptic tables illustrate every change during the forty years; they are also a great tool to date paintings. Moreover, the author reconstructs the paper patterns of Cosimo and his son don Garçia’s burial gowns. Appendix includes daily off-the-peg clothes annotations, and lists amounts and materials in detail. Forewords by Kirsten Aschengreen Piacenti and Caterina Chiarelli. With a contribution by Thessy
Re: [h-cost] Review of new biography of Chanel
Thanks for speaking up ladies. I teach Fashion History and my students are shocked to hear this, but I think we are obliged to tell them. Heck, most of them have no idea about what happened in WWII or even the Holocaust. Sad. They look at History like they view Reality TV. Monica -Original Message- From: annbw...@aol.com Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:21 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Review of new biography of Chanel And she also took advantage of the anti-semitism to throw her partner/backer for Chanel No. 5 under the bus and take total control. I could sort of accept her collaboration to save her relatives, which seems to be how it started, but she went way beyond that to profit by it and keep living the good life. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2011 1:44 pm Subject: [h-cost] Review of new biography of Chanel http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/08/21/RV951KK5JF.DTL If this link does not work for you, go to www.sfgate.com and search for the scent of a collaborator. This book apparently illuminates what I've long disliked about Chanel. I don't mind her having been a kept mistress, but she was an active Nazi collaborator and espionage agent, and that I really do mind. No quantity of color pictures and gush about her creations can change that for me. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help identifying picture
I'd guess it is Victorian or even 20thCentury. The Renaissance era paintings I've seen seemed to always have the sitter looking out at the viewer. Here you don't see her eyes at all. Creepy. Monica Spence -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of humbugfo...@att.net Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 3:15 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] help identifying picture Has anybody ever seen this before? http://images.cheezburger.com/imagestore/2010/9/9/330d9013-0b7f-468b-9c3a-b2 2044bb4e02.jpg It seems to me it's clearly a Victorian or later representation of a Renaissance style, either Italian or German. But I've never seen it before and have no idea where it came from. Can anyone help? Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 16th and 17th Century Portraits
This is wonderful! Thanks Melanie! Monica Spence -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Melanie Schuessler Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 8:15 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] 16th and 17th Century Portraits Hello all, Weiss Gallery in London specializes in historic portraiture, and to celebrate their 25th anniversary, they have put a gorgeous commemorative publication online. It includes some fabulous 16th and 17th century portraits (some of which also appear in their paper catalogs) and has closeups of some of them. You can look at it online, and you can also download the whole thing as a PDF. For free. http://www.weissgallery.com/catalogue/weiss25years.htm Enjoy! Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1st White Wedding Dress Trend: Anne of Brittany or QueenVictoria
I think Mary Tudor and Martha Washington wore white. Monica Spence -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of penn...@costumegallery.com Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 1:44 AM To: h-costume Subject: [h-cost] 1st White Wedding Dress Trend: Anne of Brittany or QueenVictoria My local newspaper ran an article about wedding traditions, http://www2.timesdispatch.com/lifestyles/celebrations/2011/may/04/tradition- tales-ar-1015954/ Scroll down to The White Wedding Dress. So who started the trend of the white wedding dress, Anne of Brittany or Queen Victoria? The year 1499 is out of my league of knowledge. I know all about Victoria's wedding dress trend. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites http://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Uniquely You dress form question [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Hi Annette, I have a Uniquely You form and it dates (new) from 1976. (OY!) I am the original owner and my shape has changed a LOT since then. The foam dried out and is a bit less flexible, but it is still in good shape. Mine also discolored on the neck and armholes. You can make a cover to fit you and then pad the form with the cover on--fiberfill would work. Voila! A new Uniquely You of you. Monica USA ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Marten fur in history, was Re: Need help identifying furs
Excuse me, but I have no Idea about what you are writing. I was answering a question about fur pieces. Please don't include me in your group scolding-- which IMHO should be done privately and individually. Thanks for understanding. Monica E. Spence MA, MA, BA Senior Lead Instructor, Fashion Department Art Institute of New York City -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of sovag...@cybermesa.com Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 3:19 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Marten fur in history, was Re: Need help identifying furs Jen, Monica, et al.: The author of the article in MCT is not the person who makes replicas. Can we please be more careful with our citations... hmmm? Suzanne On Thu, November 4, 2010 8:46 am, Pixel, Goddess and Queen wrote: Apologies for people who aren't interested in fur--it's one of my hot buttons. ;-) On Wed, 3 Nov 2010, monica spence wrote: Hi Michelle, Here's my best guess much trimming Zibellini!! There's an article about them in MCAT 2. And some pictures!! (and she apparently makes replicas for sale, too) http://sablegreyhound.com/Zibellini.html http://sablegreyhound.com/ZibelliniPicsAndInfo.html There are a couple of people out there who make replicas, but those are the best pictures. Jen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Need help identifying furs
Hi Michelle, Here's my best guess: martens. During the 20th C. ladies wore a nice suit with a set of martens around their shoulders. They were clipped nose to butt around the body. Martens have a long and distinguished history in fashion history. During the Renaissance, people didn't know how they mated and thought they did it without sex (and possibly through their ear) and so they became a symbol of the Virgin birth. The Renaissance-era furriers did whatever they had to do to preserver the skin, replaced the head and little feet with gold/ enameled/jeweled replacement parts and were worn over the arm of a woman. The portrait of Countess Livia da Porto in the Walters Gallery in Baltimore shows one. Because of the fertility reference historians have speculated she might have been pregnant when the painting was done-- plus she had two children already, the daughter Porzia is pictured with her mom. Her husband and son are in another painting. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Michelle Plumb Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 12:31 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Need help identifying furs Hello, all. I was given two fur pieces (to be worn around the neck, I assume), and would like some help identifying them and to find out approximately what they're worth. I don't personally wear fur, but it seems a shame to waste them if someone could use them for a costume. I put pictures of them in my Flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/24767...@n06/sets/72157625297457400/ Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, Michelle ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] QEWU
Hi Zuzana, There is a bit of everything in this book, but ,mostly inventory, who made what etc. If you are looking for technical things (patterns, construction tips, stc.) then, IMHO, this is not a book that you would be interested in buying. Stick to the P of F (#4 was released in 2008). Best Regards, Monica Monica E. Spence MA, MA, BA Senior Lead Instructor, Fashion Department Art Institute of New York City -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Zuzana Kraemerova Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 4:20 AM To: h-costume Subject: [h-cost] QEWU Hello, I am FINALLY thinking of buying this book as it has great reviews, but unfortunately I cannot have a look at it as it isn't in any of the local libraries. I love Janet Arnold's Patterns of Fashion and if QEWU is something of this sort, I would definitely go for it. So, my question is, how much is there about construction? How much text (theory)? How many pictures and drawings? I am looking for something that will help me recreate the costumes, not a theoretical text about what was worn. Thank you for any advice, Zuzana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Lookign for chiton pattern
Hi Alwen, You don't need a pattern. It is a rectangle of cloth. Here's a link that might help: http://www.artlex.com/ArtLex/Ch.html#anchor1684194 Monica E. Spence MA, MA, BA Senior Lead Instructor, Fashion Department Art Institute of New York City -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Aylwen Gardiner-Garden Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 8:33 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Lookign for chiton pattern Does anyone know of a pattern online/in a book/for sale for a man's chiton - a greek tunic? Bye for now, Aylwen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Schools for costume history degrees
I looked for one last year and came up with nothing, but then I was looking for an on line degree. I finally opted for a PhD in Creative Writing. Monica E. Spence MA, MA, BA Senior Lead Instructor, Fashion Department Art Institute of New York City -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Taylor Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:26 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] Schools for costume history degrees A former student contacted me requesting information about schools in southern California, offering degrees in Costume History. I have no information for her, but am betting that some of you know which schools offer degrees. Suggestions welcome. I did Google, but didn't come up with as much as I expected. Must not have picked the right search terms. Laurie Taylor (480) 560-7016 www.costumeraz.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Clothing correspondence from early 20th-Century
Hi Broom! Monica (aka: Catriona from the Laurel list in SCA parlance). Monica E. Spence MA, MA, BA Senior Lead Instructor, Fashion Department Art Institute of New York City -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Broom Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 12:05 AM To: Historic Costuming List Subject: [h-cost] Clothing correspondence from early 20th-Century Hi, back on the list after years of absence... to pass along a goodie to someone who will put it to use. So, I just received this message from someone on another list: ** I'm in NYC, and a basement vault in a building I frequent is full of clothing related correspondence from the early 1900's. I was able to reach into the frozen door far enough to grab a hand-full of letters and at least a few were a hoot. (I may have lost those samples) Mainly about socks. They were insanely expensive! $50 or more in todays money. And this guy go on for pages of florid text about why he is not interested in whatever offer was being made, must have spent half a day typing that. There's about 10 linear feet, if you or anyone wants to get those, you're welcome. ** So, anyone interested in a bunch of early 20th-c clothing data? ' | BroomIAmBroom @ gmail . com ' | cellphone: 412-389-1997 ' | 9370 Shadduck Rd, McKean, PA 16426 ' | Discere et docere, which means: '\|/ Never mind all the political banter, I'm just glad we were able '/|\ to catch Saddam before he could use his SS agents to fly planes //|\\ into Pearl Harbor again. -yohan, DamnInteresting.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Splendors of the Renaissance photos
This is a copy of the outfit worn by Federigo Gonzaga C. 1529. I think they used what they had for the lace. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Maggie Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 6:17 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Splendors of the Renaissance photos It doesn't look much like (what we can make out of) the ruff in the painting is a copy of. MaggiRos Maggie Secara ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 Available at your favorite online bookseller See our gallery at http://www.zazzle.com/popinjaypress On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Elizabeth Walpole elizabeth.r.walp...@gmail.com wrote: On the topic of ruffs and cuffs, I wonder about the lace on this cuff http://www.flickr.com/photos/22977...@n08/2724203114/sizes/l/in/set-72157606 495042137/I'm no lace expert, but embroidery on net, especially hexagonal/octagonal net that fine strikes me as more 18th century than 16th century. Has anybody got evidence that embroidery on such a fine bobbin made net is a period way to make lace in the later 16th century? -- Elizabeth Walpole http://magpiecostumer.wordpress.com/ http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Splendors of the Renaissance photos
As I recall, some of the ruffs were paper. It was probably easier to keep them stiff rather than have to was/starch/redo the fabric kind. This stuff has been on tour for years. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Maggie Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 3:46 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Splendors of the Renaissance photos Totally breathtaking--except for the ruffs being all candy-ribbon/cartridge pleated instead of gathered and shaped. But otherwise, pretty impressive. MaggiRos Maggie Secara ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 Available at your favorite online bookseller See our gallery at http://www.zazzle.com/popinjaypress On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Franchesca franchesca.ha...@gmail.comwrote: WOW! Those are some RUFFS! :) Franchesca -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of A. Thurman Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:32 PM To: Historic Costume List Subject: [h-cost] Splendors of the Renaissance photos My photo set on Flickr is here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/22977...@n08/sets/72157606495042137/ Please feel free to share the link. Allison T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Splendors of the Renaissance photos
Allison, Great pics! Especially the details. The fabrics were all supposed to be woven on the same (type) antique looms as the originals. There was a wonderful booklet they handed out in NYC with pics of many of these garments. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of A. Thurman Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 10:32 PM To: Historic Costume List Subject: [h-cost] Splendors of the Renaissance photos My photo set on Flickr is here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/22977...@n08/sets/72157606495042137/ Please feel free to share the link. Allison T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction
It was a amazing exhibit, but not well publicized. It was held in the CUNY Grad Center on 5th Ave. I went several times. The curator guard/ lady watching the stuff allowed me to crawl around the Eleonora de Toledo gown-- and she was wearing a farthingale, just as Janet Arnold said! Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Wicked Frau Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:28 PM To: Historical Costume; therenaissancetai...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction http://www.kingstudio.it/ I must have been asleep in 2004. How did I miss this exhibit in NY??? Very cool. Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What to name a dressmaker's dummy
Mine's Matilda because she is unsteady on her base-- she waltzes with me. Monica t -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Käthe Barrows Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 7:24 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] What to name a dressmaker's dummy Mine's Patience, because she'll stand there patiently, for days if she has to, and never complain. On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Kimiko Small sstormwa...@yahoo.com wrote: My latest dummy only got her name after I carefully removed her overly extended breasts. Bessie Blunt is a play on Elizabeth Bessie Blount, one of King Henry VIII's mistresses. I've been doing a bit of Henrician stuff recently. Kimiko Kimiko Small http://www.kimiko1.com Be the change you want to see in the world. ~ Ghandi The Tudor Lady's Wardrobe pattern http://www.margospatterns.com/ I'm sure others can make excellent suggestions, --cin Cynthia Barnes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed. -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Grading patterns
I am sticking my nose in here. I spent 25 years as a patternmaker/designer in NYC. Both Gerber and Lectra have computer grading programs. The software and hardware are HUGELY expensive. My suggestion is to contact either of these companies to see if there is someone in your area (or ever outside the area) for names of companies who do grading and marking. It may be pricey at first, but once you have the patterns you can make oak tag copies and use them forever. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sylvia Rognstad Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:21 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Grading patterns I need to be able to grade a pattern up and down in size from a 0 up to probably a 20 something. I don't want to have to repattern a garment for each size. ? Sylvia Rognstad Costume/clothing design construction Alterations home dec http://www.ezzyworld.com On Jan 29, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Joan Jurancich wrote: At 12:13 PM 1/29/2010, you wrote: Sylvia, I think your question entirely appropriate for this list. I have a whole archive of historic patterns that I'd like to grade (none of them is even close to my own size!), but have never attempted. If you hear of a grader/service, I might be interested, too. Many thanks for posting! == Marjorie Wilser =: On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Sylvia Rognstad wrote: I know this question isn't related specifically to historic costuming, but I think some of you have made businesses from your passion for such and may have needed to grade their patterns up and down for sale. In the past, I have done my own grading, but I've never really learned totally how to do it and I have some ideas for new designs that, if they sell, I may need to size them up or down and these may be too complex for me to try on my own. Does anyone know of any professional graders? I live in Colorado, but I imagine I could ship my patterns out of state if I can't find someone here. Sylvia Rognstad When I first made a dress for Dickens Faire and Sutter's Fort about 30 years ago (!), there were no commercial patterns anywhere near my size or shape. Given that I am very short-waisted, I found it easier to start from my own fitted sloper and then make changes to give the cut of the dress I wanted. For example, a standard sloper has a side-bust dart; in the 19th century dresses the bust darts are from the waist; so I changed the bust darts to match my desired look. You might find this easier than grading a historical pattern, I certainly did. Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Sound of Music
Directors and stars have a huge amount of input on what people wear in the movies. Most stay pretty close to the current styles--- which date really fast. However, these were made before the VCR/ DVD era where people can watch and appreciate (or not) the clothes more often and more critically. One star who really wanted to do the right thing with period clothes was Bette Davis. She shaved her hairline, wore wigs and more period gowns for Elizabeth and Exeter. Compare her to Joan Collins in the same movie--her clothes were pure fantasy. Monica Monica E. Spence MA, MA, BA Lead Instructor, Fashion Department Art Institute of New York City monicaspe...@optonline.net -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sylvia Rognstad Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 7:47 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Sound of Music I noticed that too when watching Giant, I think it was. It starts in the early 1920s but the costumes look like 1950s, when the movie was made. For some reason, it seems like costume designers from the 50s and 60s were not at all interested in any sort of historical accuracy. ? Sylvia Rognstad Costume/clothing design construction Alterations home dec http://www.ezzyworld.com On Dec 28, 2009, at 5:15 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: The outfits that Baroness Schraeder ears struck me as not particularly 1930s, but I really don't know anything bout that period, so I thought of asking what this list had to say. Any pinions? When I worked in a local theatre costume shop, several of the regulars were big fans of the movie, but, given the awful costumes, I couldn't see why. Yes, the Baroness is in '60s fashions. The hairstyles and makeup are even worse. Maria, of course, is in generic middle European peasant style at the beginning. Don't know how authentic the nuns' habits are, but at least they look right. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Martha Sieting oserm...@msu.edu To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2009 2:42 pm Subject: [h-cost] Sound of Music So hubby and I watched The Sound of Music last night (there was nothing else n and those old classics are fun sometimes anyway) and I found myself wondering bout the authenticity of the costuming. The outfits that Baroness Schraeder ears struck me as not particularly 1930s, but I really don't know anything bout that period, so I thought of asking what this list had to say. Any pinions? Many thanks and happy holidays! -Martha __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Herald's Renaissance Dress in Italy
I had 2 and gave one to a friend (my SCA apprentice) as a gift. :-) Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of otsisto Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:33 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Herald's Renaissance Dress in Italy Amazon has used for $495.00 http://tinyurl.com/y9mhjxc -Original Message- http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/ListingDetails?bi=1415884424cm_ven=nlcm_ca t=trgcm_pla=wantcm_ite=viewbook If you REALLY want a copy; this one is US$650. I find maybe one copy every two years and this is the cheapest I've seen it quite some time. --Charlene -- The trouble with most people is that they think with their hopes or fears or wishes rather than with their minds. -- Will Durant ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Opinions on this book
I bought it a long time ago-- back in the late 70s/ 80s when there was very little published about costume/clothing. I have used it to check definitions a few times. I would not throw it-- sell it on eBay. Monica Monica E. Spence MA, MA, BA Lead Instructor, Fashion Department Art Institute of New York City -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Käthe Barrows Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:06 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Opinions on this book I have a copy of The Encyclopedia of World Costume, by Doreen Yarwood. Any opinions on this one? Is it worth saving or should I toss it? I saw a copy once, and didn't buy it, no regrets. I didn't like it. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed. -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Opinions on this book
The Wilcox book has redrawings c. 50s. Not good for silhouettes, however if it leads you to the original painting, it serves a purpose. Monica E. Spence MA, MA, BA Lead Instructor, Fashion Department Art Institute of New York City -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Chiara Francesca Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 11:33 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Opinions on this book It is a very popular book with the libraries. I have a copy that I found at Half-Price in Austin a while ago. It is a very inexpensive book still. Kinda like A Dictionary of Costume and Fashion: Historic and Modern. The great thing about these books? They force you to find the slapped together images individually in their original paintings. The colors never really match but it makes for a great visual trivial pursuit game with bored costumers stuck somewhere too long. :D The book I would recommend if you can find a copy is Dictionary of Costume by R. Turner Wilcox. ? Chiara Francesca Ehi Prof.! Che cosa facciamo stasera? Quello che facciamo tutte le sere, Mignolo: tentare di conquistare il mondo! (hint: italian) -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Collier Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 6:37 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] Opinions on this book I have a copy of The Encyclopedia of World Costume, by Doreen Yarwood. Any opinions on this one? Is it worth saving or should I toss it? Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait)
Maybe from his workshop, I would guess it is probably not from the master's hand. Monica Spence PS- I have it too in my files, it just says Florentine. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Käthe Barrows Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 5:06 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Do anyone know this lady? (Italian portrait) I'm guessing it's a Bronzino painting. You might try Googling on Bronzinoand looking at the images. On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Tracy Thallas fathal...@collinscom.net wrote: Am hunting the references on this painting - http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies/3963118205/ Picked her up somewhere or other online, and now I really need to know where she lives and who painted her. Thanks for looking! Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com NEW!!! Website in progress!!!- http://practicalblackwork.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed. -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] PhD programs in costume history
I looked for an on-line PhD in Costume History due to my location/ schedule. I never found one. It is not a matter of WHEN you get your degree, it is important to DO it. I got my MA in 1976 in Theater with a specialization in costume. I spent 6 years as a costume designer in the theater, 24 on 7th Avenue as a designer, and I now teach fashion history and other aspects of fashion design, so no grass grew under my feet. There are so many great programs now I almost envy the students starting today. The PhD--- well, I am starting one in October. Creative Writing/ Distance Learning at Lancaster U. in England. I will have to suffer through the short residencies in the UK while I research my historical fiction-- and the clothes people wore. Poor me. :-) Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of e...@huskers.unl.edu Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 4:40 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] PhD programs in costume history Hey, and Cornell's on my husband's list of possible schools! Thank you. Emma From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] on behalf of annbw...@aol.com [annbw...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:31 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] PhD programs in costume history Cornell also has a program. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pennsic
I am on the Pennsic Staff (again). I run the Arts Science Display on Monday August 3. Come show your work! Monica E. Spence (aka: Catriona MacDuff, costuming Laurel) -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of cc2010m...@cs.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 8:17 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pennsic In a message dated 7/9/2009 11:00:42 PM Central Daylight Time, h-costume-requ...@indra.com writes: From: Leah Janette bear_ja...@msn.com If you decide to go to Pennsic, post to the list. I am not going, but one of my staff will be on Dealer's Row. She meet a few cross-over SCA/Costumers at CC27. I am sure she would like to meet more. I'll get info from her about shop name and what she sells. I believe saris, but I want to make sure. Henry W. Osier Chairman, Costume-Con 28 May 7 to May 10, 2010 www.CC28.org Look for our fan page on Facebook! And on Twitter: CostumeCon28 Got questions? Join the CostumeCon Yahoo group! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pennsic
Howdy. I often wonder why people's names look familiar. :-) Monica (Catriona) -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Susan Carroll-Clark Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 11:20 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pennsic In a message dated 7/9/2009 11:00:42 PM Central Daylight Time, h-costume-requ...@indra.com writes: From: Leah Janette bear_ja...@msn.com If you decide to go to Pennsic, post to the list. I'll be at Pennsic. I am otherwise known as the editor of the Pennsic Independentand Trillium Herald for the Kingdom of Ealdormere. Susan (Nicolaa) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toldeo portrait?
I've seen the painting on the net and we discussed this a while back. Please don't think I am a know-it all on this, but here is what I know and have studied. Here's the original story. A BBC correspondent has returned a Renaissance painting of Eleonora of Toledo to a German museum after discovering it was looted during World War II. Here's the story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5037002.stm ** However.You know... I've been researching Eleonora and Co. for about 20 years. This picture does not look like Eleonora of Toledo, 2nd Duchess of Florence, to me. It looks like our Eleonora's niece Eleonora of Toledo, (she was the daughter of her brother Garcia). The younger Eleonora married Cosimo and Eleonora's youngest son Pietro (their 11th child)and was later murdered by him for supposed infidelity. (Not that he was any prize, but let's not go there...) The portrait in the BBC article is similar to at least 2 other paintings of the younger Eleonora I know of. I think the dress is in this portrait too late in style for our Eleonora-- the standing collar is a much later style. Our Eleonora had a very distinctive style that she brought with her to Florence and used it for her official and family portraits throughout her life. Also, if it was by Allori, I think he would have painted a more flattering portrait, such as the one in Duke Francesco's Studiolo, which made her look beautiful and healthy, just the was Francesco wanted to remember his mom. Alorri painting would have been posthumous anyway... Bronzino's portraits of our Eleonora show her very gaunt toward the end of her life and her style of clothing is consistent. Monica E. Spence MA, MA, BA Lead Instructor, Fashion Department Art Institute of New York City 11 Beach Street New York, New York 10013 212-226-5500 Home: 631-665-9505 cell: 516-635-1839 monicaspe...@optonline.net -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Frank A Thallas Jr Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 6:47 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] Eleanor of Toldeo portrait? While wandering the web last night, came upon this - http://www.needlework-tips-and-techniques.com/blackwork-cuff-on-an-italian-r enaissance-gown.html Has anyone seen this portrait before, or have any idea of its attribution? If it's real (Eleanor or not) I'd love to see a better image and have the provenance... (I ain't getting in the true and faux blackwork fight there ;-) ) Liadain You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies http://practical-blackwork.tripod.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dressing like an American
When I was 14 (1967) I went to Europe. School trip. We were told NO pants. I just remember wearing my light blue raincoat ALL the time. Of course it came in handy in the rain in Rome. Monica Monica E. Spence MA, MA, BA Lead Instructor, Fashion Department Art Institute of New York City 11 Beach Street New York, New York 10013 212-226-5500 Home: 631-665-9505 cell: 516-635-1839 monicaspe...@optonline.net -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Claire Clarke Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:17 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Dressing like an American Hi all, Some of you who were alive back then might not consider this historic costume, but I thought this was a good place to ask this question. I was recently reading 'The Gabriel Hounds' by Mary Stewart, which is set in Lebanon in, I think the '60's (1960's that is). The narrator is English but has been living in America and at one point describes herself as 'dressing like an American'. I was curious how differently American and English women might have dressed at this time. Is this another way of saying that she dressed informally? Or wore trousers a lot? Claire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Mary I ???
FWIW and IMHO it looks Victorian. Might have been based on a Holbein, but I don't think the pic is 16th C. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Saragrace Knauf Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 6:06 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Mary I ??? http://z.about.com/d/womenshistory/1/0/Y/Q/2/mary_i_tudor_holbein_001a.jpg Anyone seen this one before - the image name indicates it is a Holbein?? Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Photos of abandoned garment factory
As a designer and patternmaker who's job went off-shore in 2003, this makes me want to cry. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com]on Behalf Of Penny Ladnier Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:49 AM To: h-costume Subject: [h-cost] Photos of abandoned garment factory These are photos of an abandoned clothing factory. I believe it is in Baltimore, Maryland. It is really sad all that was left in the factory. There are two sets of photos: http://community.livejournal.com/abandonedplaces/1518816.html#cutid1 http://community.livejournal.com/abandonedplaces/1530073.html#cutid1 This link was passed along to me. I do not know a thing about the salvage of the factory. If you have question, the owner of the webpages. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of costume, fashion and textile history. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] More black ruffs?
Van Dyck painted silver ruffs on noblewomen from Genoa. Not black but interesting. Also, in one the neck ruff and the wrist ruffs are a different color. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com]on Behalf Of mlysett Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:08 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] More black ruffs? I just happened to borrow Strong's English Icon, so I thumbed through it looking for black ruffs. There aren't any all-black ruffs, but there are a few edged in black and a few more that are heavily embroidered with blackwork. I could only find three online: http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/ThomasHoward1.jpg http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/FrancisSidney.jpg http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/sca/tudor/blackmary.jpg If you'd like more pictures, email me privately and I'll see if I can get them scanned. Margaret Roe ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costume- and sewing-related Christmas gifts
Pretty pictures. Racinet was the be-all-and-end-all at his time (19th C.), but everything is redrawn. (Better you should look at original art.) However it is fun to find the original art and then see how he changed it. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com]on Behalf Of Kay Shelton Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 8:26 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Costume- and sewing-related Christmas gifts I received The Complete Costume History by Auguste Racinet. Anyone know anything about it? How's the scholarship or shall I just look at the pretty pictures? It is a huge book. Kay ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] searching for a textiles textbook
We use the Fairchild Textbook: Fabric Science, 8th ed. by Price, Cohen, Johnson. Has a workbook with swatches. Pretty technical, but no color pics like Textiles by Kandolf. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pixel, Goddess and Queen Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:43 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] searching for a textiles textbook Hello to the list! I know some of you teach or have taught textile classes, and it is you to whom I come with a request for assistance: I am in the process of writing up a pair of fiber classes (Fibers 101 and 102) and I am looking for a textiles textbook with useful discussions of fiber properties including hand, drape, shrinkage, all that good stuff. I have had Kadolph Langford's _Textiles_ recommended to me as the one that's used at the U of M(innesota)--are there any others that people might recommend? Many thanks, Jen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Herni Bendel history
Henri Bendel was a shopkeeper, like RH Macy and B Altman. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Penny Ladnier Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 2:27 AM To: h-costume Subject: [h-cost] Herni Bendel history I know that Herni W. Bendel is a present day store. But in 1917 would he have been a fashion designer? I have an article in a Harper's from 1917 with fashion plates by this person. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 10 websites of costume, fashion and textile history. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 16th century maternity clothes
Many women were painted while pregnant. Remember-- not only was she doing her duty, but she had a 25% chance of dying while doing it. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 1:42 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] 16th century maternity clothes Maggie wrote: The More women hadn't slit their dresses. It's just the early/mid-century style.They were made to lace that way. What the picture shows is the lacing without the stomacher or (over) gown. For a pregnant woman at home, it must have been much more comfortable. Here's an Elizabethan noblewoman (1595) in maternity. (Why would you have your picture painted at this stage!?) To record that you were fulfilling one of your most important duties, that of creating heirs for the family. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
My cap, gown and Masters hood from my recent graduation from Seton Hill University. Monica ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing?
Thanks! Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gilbert Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 7:03 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? Congratulations on your graduation, Monica! Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net http://historicalfictionbooks.ning.com/profile/MarjorieGilbert - Original Message - From: monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 5:08 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmaker's dummy wearing? My cap, gown and Masters hood from my recent graduation from Seton Hill University. Monica ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing?
Hanna, The dress is lovely. Thanks for sharing. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hanna Zickermann Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:30 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] what is your dressform wearing? My dressform is still wearing Dürer´s Nürnbergerin im Hauskleid. I finished it in June for my master craftswoman degree in costuming and still found no place to store the pleated apron. Here´s a picture of the costume in action: http://s6.directupload.net/file/d/1464/aob843cf_jpg.htm :-) h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] general fitting questions
Dawn-- You can put a gusset under the arms. That would help a lot. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dawn Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 2:36 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] general fitting questions I made up Vogue 7733 to wear at an event last week and had some fitting issues with it. http://img.sewingtoday.com/cat/2/itm_img/V7733.jpg Here's a bad pic of me wearing it: http://www.reddawn.net/temp/DSCN3883.jpg I know how to solve the falling-off-the-shoulders problem. What was killing me is that I can't raise my arms in this thing. The model in the first image demonstrates the limit of range-of-motion available. I had trouble just getting my shoulder bag on my shoulder because I couldn't lift my arms enough. How do I fix this? What do I need to adjust on the pattern so I can do more than just stand around and look pretty wearing this top? I don't need to do jumping jacks, but I couldn't even push my hair out of my face without difficulty. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Historic Textiles Examination from Burgos Cathedral, Madrid Spain
This is fabulous! Thank you both for sharing this. Monica Spence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Saragrace Knauf Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Historic Textiles Examination from Burgos Cathedral,Madrid Spain http://www.middelaldercentret.dk/pdf/burgosrapport.pdf My friend Camilla Louise Dahl sent this link to me to share. Enjoy Sg Sorry if this is a repeat - it didn't appear to come through on H-costume. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Itlalian Renaissance hat
It is called a Balzo. You can find info at: http://home.earthlink.net/~lizjones429/balzo-new.htm http://mariwashere.com/index2.php?option=com_contentdo_pdf=1id=26 http://www.sword.net/jessica/firenze/Early15thCenturyBalzo.pdf Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Becky Rautine Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 4:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Itlalian Renaissance hat I'm trying to find a pattern or how-to make a round balloon like Italian hat, such as worn in Romeo and Juliette and THe Taming of the Shrew. It's a bel? I can't remember the term and can't seem to find a description in any painting. http://www.abcgallery.com/T/titian/titian96.html http://www.festiveattyre.com/research/secondflor/secflor29.htmlSincerely, Rebecca Rautine _ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Looking for Amsterdam museums events
The Rijksmuseum (Rembrandt Museum) and Anne Frank's house are both must-see places in Amseredam. Also-- anyplace that sells chocolate and baked goods. However, beware of the damage to your waistline! Oh, yes, drugs are legal there, so be careful of where you bring children. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Suzi Clarke Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 5:46 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Looking for Amsterdam museums events At 21:37 26/07/2008, you wrote: Ladies Gents, H-costume archives doesnt have much on this question, so I'll pose it directly: What's to do in Amsterdam nearby? I'm going to be in Amsterdam for a vacation next week and maybe a bit after, and as usual I'm looking for ideas of where to go with an extended family group. I'm mostly in to high fashion historic costuming, social dance history from the early Renn up to and including the 19th century. We're also interested in more than just wearable stuff: castles, living history events. My husband, bro-in-law, sis in law I are all engineers and some of the teenage nephews are headed that way so ships, airplanes, how a wind mill works, science tech museums are good fun. If you have any ideas for family friendly events (the family runs ages 10-70+), we'd like those, too. We'll have cars, so sites 1-2 hrs out of town are also accessible. Got any great suggestions? Got any out there suggestions? Thanks for the help, --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a very long time since I was in Amsterdam, but the city itself is walkable if you are fit and healthy - mostly flat. Most people travel by bike or by tram(?). The Rijksmuseum is one of the great museums of the Western world. I saw nowhere near a 10th of it I think. They have an excellent zoo, and somewhere near, there are, I believe, diamond cutting demonstrations. (And of course there is the Red Light district, but I think they have toned down the area!) Best I can do, I'm afraid. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] An interesting ethnic fabric
OMG! This is great!! Chinese Tartans??? Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robin Netherton Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 12:57 PM To: Historic Costume List Subject: [h-cost] An interesting ethnic fabric A friend sent me this link about a Jewish-Scottish tartan: http://www.forward.com/articles/13787/ And it's kosher! --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Journal of the Costume Society
Speaking of Janet Arnold-- Who is going to Florence in November for the Collequium? (Besides me and 3 friends, that is). Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Saragrace Knauf Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 5:04 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Journal of the Costume Society A wedding dress worn by Princess Sophia Magdalena in 1766 in Costume, London, new series, #1, 1967, pp 17 - 21. Bjarne this comes from here: Someone posted this source awhile back...can't remember who... http://www.ravensgard.org/gerekr/arnold.html Sg From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 22:06:57 +0200 Subject: [h-cost] Journal of the Costume Society Can anybody help me with the informations about an article by Janet Arnold. She wrote in Costume about the wedding dress of Sophia Magdalena in 1766. I only have a photocopyed page of the article with the pattern cut. What i need is the year of the publikation. Thankyou... Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing
Constance-- Perhaps I am misreading your post. I hope so. I have no interest in starting an email flame war. However, sometimes I must bow to the eloquence of others. FWIW-I would recommend you try to type while construction is going on above your head and then count your typos. (We are in the midst of kitchen construction, and being online is one of the few escapes from the mess. My kitchen is filled with large men doing plumbing and tilework as I write this.) BTW-- the Baroness business-- while maybe amusing to you, was in response to the response from a gentleman who answered to my question on FLDS, which I had never heard of. His SCA title was at the end of his post, and I responded in kind to let him know we are both in the SCA. Sorry if you thought it was funny or if you took offense. People here have many other talents and interests that play into the area of historical clothing. Monica Professor and SCA Baroness -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Constance Britten Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 1:56 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing Priofessor? Yup, that's a good one! *Very* funny! (Even better than that Baroness whatchamacallit business.) ;-) -- Constance monica spence wrote: Being funny-- really. Monica Priofessor of Fashion History Art Institute of New York City ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing
FLDS? Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jodi Nelson Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:18 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing I live in St George UT and the FLDS are about 2 hours away in Colorado City/Hildale, two towns in the UT/AZ border.I used to work in the JoAnn Fabrics here and saw many FLDS women in the store often.They use the poly fabric (a heavy gabardine or suiting) because it stands away from the body and does not follow the contours, preserving modesty. Some families do use softer, more flowing fabrics, but most use the heavy poly. The money apparently is being pooled and doled out on a need basis. The FLDS community follows the United Effort Plan- all held in common by the church and given back out based on need. I am not sure how it is administered, but nobody owns anything. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing
Thanks, Frank. All that Poly is HOT in the summer. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frank A Thallas Jr Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:51 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing Fundamentalist Church of the Latter-Day Saints. It's a polygamist group that broke away from the main body of the Mormon church. If you Google, I'm sure you will find many *ahem* interesting news stories... Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of monica spence Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:31 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing FLDS? Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jodi Nelson Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:18 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing I live in St George UT and the FLDS are about 2 hours away in Colorado City/Hildale, two towns in the UT/AZ border.I used to work in the JoAnn Fabrics here and saw many FLDS women in the store often.They use the poly fabric (a heavy gabardine or suiting) because it stands away from the body and does not follow the contours, preserving modesty. Some families do use softer, more flowing fabrics, but most use the heavy poly. The money apparently is being pooled and doled out on a need basis. The FLDS community follows the United Effort Plan- all held in common by the church and given back out based on need. I am not sure how it is administered, but nobody owns anything. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing
Keeps a girl's figure. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frank A Thallas Jr Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:07 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing Mmmm. Nothing like doing farm work while wearing a plastic tent Liadain (Mrs Frank...G) THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of monica spence Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:03 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing Thanks, Frank. All that Poly is HOT in the summer. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frank A Thallas Jr Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:51 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing Fundamentalist Church of the Latter-Day Saints. It's a polygamist group that broke away from the main body of the Mormon church. If you Google, I'm sure you will find many *ahem* interesting news stories... Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of monica spence Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:31 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing FLDS? Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jodi Nelson Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:18 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing I live in St George UT and the FLDS are about 2 hours away in Colorado City/Hildale, two towns in the UT/AZ border.I used to work in the JoAnn Fabrics here and saw many FLDS women in the store often.They use the poly fabric (a heavy gabardine or suiting) because it stands away from the body and does not follow the contours, preserving modesty. Some families do use softer, more flowing fabrics, but most use the heavy poly. The money apparently is being pooled and doled out on a need basis. The FLDS community follows the United Effort Plan- all held in common by the church and given back out based on need. I am not sure how it is administered, but nobody owns anything. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing
Isn't that considered abuse? Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Schaeffer, Astrida Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:14 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing All that Poly is HOT in the summer. Monica Especially when worn over the requisite full-body long underwear. In Texas...While doing hard physical labor... I wonder how much heat prostration happened at the compound... Astrida ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Modest clothing (Was FLDS Clothing)
The biggest problem in my experience with poly is the fact it holds body oder so well. This might be good to help for police dogs, but not for people who wear it. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Candace Perry Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:09 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Modest clothing (Was FLDS Clothing) The Amish, I do believe, wear poly doubleknit almost exclusively...certainly easy to ascertain if you hang out in Lancaster Co. PA long enough! It is easy to care for. There is nothing quite as fragrant as an Amish adolescent boy in a violet poly shirt. Candace Perry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane Sheridan Chabot Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Modest clothing (Was FLDS Clothing) Where I grew up in the Canadian prairies there are numerous Hutterite communities that have a similar modest dress code. You can often tell which colony they came from by the colors they wear. Predominantly blues, navy and black were the most common in my area, and others have a bit more variety in color especially for their youth. Boys wear dark slacks, white or light colored (blue or grey) shirts and suspenders. Old fashioned Hats in felt or straw also very common. Girls are either in a full skirted lower calf or ankle length dress or a full skirt and very modest blouse. All of the ladies wore a black or navy kerchief that always had white polkadots on their head and often aprons - I think mostly for the married women. Little girls wore bonnets. Very germanic in feel, in fact most of them still speak German. As a kid I always got a kick out of the fact most of the girls wore white running shoes - very anachronistic. :0) The Mennonites were much more open to modern clothing, but many of the women adopt a simple modest style - jumper style dresses and blouses, long skirts, very specific hairstyles and sometimes a simple head cover/bonnet. Sheridan P ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing
WHY is it that men make the rules of what women wear? Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frank A Thallas Jr Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 6:10 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing Especially when worn over the requisite full-body long underwear. In Texas...While doing hard physical labor... I wonder how much heat prostration happened at the compound... Astrida Who cares, it's only wimmen.. Oooo. Did I say that with my outside voice? ;-P Seriously, comfort/safety are not high on the list. Liadain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing
Yes-- I just LOVE to stir the pot. Ask anyone. :-) Baroness Catriona MacDuff OL, OP yadayada East Kingdom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frank A Thallas Jr Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:01 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing Heh. You gonna open a BIG old can of fish with THAT one. G Liadain THL Liadain ni Mhordha OFO You get a wonderful view from the point of no return... wildernesse, the Outlands http://practical-blackwork.blogspot.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/liadains_fancies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of monica spence Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 2:24 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing WHY is it that men make the rules of what women wear? Monica ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing
Yup. :-) Monica Professior of Fashion History Art Institute of NYC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew T Trembley Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:08 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing On Jul 8, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Kimiko Small wrote: --- On Tue, 7/8/08, monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHY is it that men make the rules of what women wear? Monica Is this a hypothetical question, or a real one? I am not sure. It's one that's probably way outside the scope of this list, at least as it's phrased. Discussing strictures, sumptuary laws and appropriate dress for a period may be appropriate (and necessary to understand how to recreate historical costume properly) and it may be possible to have a dispassionate discussion about the cultural circumstances in which historical costume developed... ...but gross generalization is always inappropriate. andy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing
Being funny-- really. Monica Priofessor of Fashion History Art Institute of New York City -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kimiko Small Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:36 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] FLDS Clothing Is this a hypothetical question, or a real one? I am not sure. Kimiko --- On Tue, 7/8/08, monica spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHY is it that men make the rules of what women wear? Monica ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1830s-40s Servants
Don't nurses wear veils in the UK? I remember from several movies... Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1830s-40s Servants In a message dated 5/31/2008 10:52:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think nurse's caps were more of a professional symbol, though. I wonder how nun's veils play into this. Sisters of mercy, y'know. Many nuns were nurses y'know, from the beginning. **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Janet Arnold latest
Hi Scarlett-- I just looked on Amazon.uk, but can't find it. What is the title of the book? Thanks, Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:32 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Janet Arnold latest Good morning, I know this was discussed a while back and I did a follow up. Amazon now is taking pre-orders on the new Janet Arnold book, but I found it on the UK site not the USA site. It will be 30.00 pounds and release date is november 7th. I also they had a reduced price on the Queen Elizabeth book 75.00 pounds and it is listed with the USA site for about $120.00, good deal but not as low as it was a few years ago. Scarlett ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Religious symbols in jewellery, was Renaissance dress
Henry VIII considered himself a good Catholic til the day he died, even though the Pope did not. :-) There are lots of examples of people wearing crosses in that period -- check out those done by Holbein. As for the later period... maybe. Charles I was notoriously sympathetic to Catholics because of Henrietta Maria, his wife. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kate M Bunting Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 5:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Religious symbols in jewellery, was Renaissance dress -- Karen wrote: I think that you have a good idea about the skirt but you may be a bit off base on the necklace. If you look closely at the vertical elements you can see they form the initials I and H. In period it was common/fashionable to wear the symbol of 'IHS' which are the Latin initials of Jesus. It was particularly used in the Protestant countries (I'm most familiar with England) because wearing a crucifix was out of favor as being too Papist. Personally, I think this is the most likely explanation although the wearing of initials/symbols of significant people is not out of the question. That's interesting. My living history persona is the widow of a Gentleman of the Chapel Royal in the 1640s. I've wondered about wearing a cross, but decided against it as I felt that it would have been considered too Papist at the time. Kate Bunting Cataloguing Data Quality Librarian University of Derby ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Janet Arnold bibliography
Hi Dawn-- There used to be one online. Google Janet Arnold. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dawn Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:55 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Janet Arnold bibliography Is there a collected list of her lifelong works? I have Patterns of Fashion and QEWU, but would like to see some of the articles and short pieces she wrote. Anyone got a good bibliography for her? Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] New Topics-- please!!!!!
Hello Ladies and Gentlemen, Anyone want to talk about costume and clothing? Hi Kass-- Nice to see you here! Anyone have any recommendations for costume in and around Florence? I am thinking of side trips for the Janet Arnold Conference in November. Monica Spence ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New Topics-- please!!!!!
I know nothing about them. Thanks for the links! Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kass McGann Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:06 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] New Topics-- please! Hi Monica, Thanks for the warm welcome! Can we talk about flat-bottomed armholes? I'm totally on about flat-bottomed armholes. Kass http://www.reconstructinghistory.com/ Looking for the perfect gift for the RH fan on your list? Try a RH Gift Certificate http://www.reconstructinghistory.com/index.php?s=c=123d=160e=f=g=w=21 q=1p=360r=Y . They never expire! http://reconstructinghistory.com http://community.livejournal.com/rh_community/ http://kass-rants.livejournal.com http://www.reconstructinghistory.blogspot.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of monica spence Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:00 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] New Topics-- please! Hello Ladies and Gentlemen, Anyone want to talk about costume and clothing? Hi Kass-- Nice to see you here! Anyone have any recommendations for costume in and around Florence? I am thinking of side trips for the Janet Arnold Conference in November. Monica Spence ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New Topics-- please!!!!!
Anybody up for a roll call to see who from the h-cost list will be in Florence for the conference? Monica Spence, New York City (actually Long Island, but I teach in NYC) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 6:17 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] New Topics-- please! Anyone have any recommendations for costume in and around Florence? I am thinking of side trips for the Janet Arnold Conference in November. No, but I'm planning on being there and would love to see a friendly face! Emma ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] How Many Costume Books/Magazines/Photos Do You Own
Hi Fran-- Why is it depressing that many of us are in the SCA? In order to participate in the SCA, a person has to wear a reasonable attempt at pre-17th C. clothing. A lot of us find there is challenge and fun in going beyond the minimum. I think that it is great that so many go the extra mile for their hobby. Monica Spence In Society known as: Baroness Catriona MacDuff OL,OP,CM,CSC,KoE,QoC,PA,PA,AoA,OSF,OSS East Kingdom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 3:33 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] How Many Costume Books/Magazines/Photos Do You Own What I find both interesting and depressing in this discussion is that (a) judging from the books discussed, almost all the people who collect and spend much money on costume books are in the SCA and (b) a lot of people would rather spend money on fabric and sewing machines. Fran Lavolta Press Books on Costuming http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] How Many Costume Books/Magazines/Photos Do You Own
We are just lucky I guess. Most of us garb-and-research-types are book-aholics. She/he who dies with the most books wins the love and undying affection of she/he who inherits the books. :-) Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:06 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] How Many Costume Books/Magazines/Photos Do You Own It's not depressing that you are in the SCA, it's depressing that other groups do not seem to value books nearly as much. Fran monica spence wrote: Hi Fran-- Why is it depressing that many of us are in the SCA? In order to participate in the SCA, a person has to wear a reasonable attempt at pre-17th C. clothing. A lot of us find there is challenge and fun in going beyond the minimum. I think that it is great that so many go the extra mile for their hobby. Monica Spence In Society known as: Baroness Catriona MacDuff OL,OP,CM,CSC,KoE,QoC,PA,PA,AoA,OSF,OSS East Kingdom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lavolta Press Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 3:33 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] How Many Costume Books/Magazines/Photos Do You Own What I find both interesting and depressing in this discussion is that (a) judging from the books discussed, almost all the people who collect and spend much money on costume books are in the SCA and (b) a lot of people would rather spend money on fabric and sewing machines. Fran Lavolta Press Books on Costuming http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] How Many Costume Books/Magazines/Photos Do You Own
About how many costume/fashion related books or magazines do you own? Hundreds. My library is better than most public libraries-- at least for art, history and costume. What was the first one you purchased? 197O (when I was in college) Where did you purchase it? Have no clue. Memory fails after a certain age. :-) What was your most recent purchase? The new Henry VIII book (I can't remember the title-- We are doing kitchen renovation and my brain is fried) What do you think was the best deal that you have every made when purchasing a publication? Roy Strong-- English Icons. Bought used for about $20. Also his Elizabethan Jacobean Portraits-- 2 volumes. Pristine. $45.00 About how many period photographs do you own just for the costuming? A gazillion. I keep them in photo protective sheets in the largest 3 ring binder made. What book or magazine is your most treasured...if your house was on fire, you would take it with you. Moda di Firenze. I have two copies (one is a gift). Since I am writing about Cosimo and Eleonora, it is my best reference. Of course, if push came to shove, I'd grab my manuscripts for the 3 books I've written. (on portable hard drive sticks) What is the worse costume book that you own? I know Robin has a collection! Me too. Mode in Costume by Ruth Turner Wilcox tops my list. Do you have a room devoted to your collection? Actually several. We have a library which houses Art and History. My dressmaking patternmaking and costume history are in the sewing room. The other books are in our bedroom, our guest room and the computer room. Not to mention the stuff under the eaves. When did you start collecting? 1970 Do you consider your collection for business or pleasure? Both. I was a costume designer for 6 years, a fashion designer for 24, and now I teach fashion history. Plus I am in the SCA. Optional questions: How many sewing machines do you own? 4 . What types and age? 3 straight stitch (one lives with my brother) and a serger. The straight stitch machines are 1940s and 1950s vintage Singers. The Serger is probably 15 years old and also a Singer. How many sewing patterns do you own? Commercial: less than 30. I make my own patterns for the SCA garb since I am also a professional patternmaker. Monica Spence ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] book lust G
Ouch! Try Michael Shemansky Bookseller (online) for MdF. He usually includes shipping in his prices, I think. It is about $100 for the book and it was in his mostt recent catalogue. He KNOWS about us costumers. I told him of the book's popularity when he questioned me why so many people were asking about it. I plan to read it --again-- before the Janet Arnold Costume Collequium in Florence in November. QEWU is about $250 the last time I saw it advertised anywhere. Thet is a lot more scarce. Monica in NYC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Julie Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] book lust G I ran into a copy of Moda de Firenze (the Italian Renaissance costuming book) at a Ren Faire this weekend. I was all set to add it to my collection but was shocked at the price. The last time I looked it was going for about $80 U.S. Yesterday it was priced at $148. Has this book really gone up that much in a year or two? Is there another less costly vendor? BTW, on a simiilar note, how much is Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe Unlock'd going for now? Thanks Julie in San Diego ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Making History Hip
Thanks. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David S. Mallinak Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:18 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Making History Hip monica spence wrote: Do you remember who made that DVD with the Highlander Flashbacks? I teach fashion history and this would be SOO cool. My memory, after so many years, was a product of the production company. l. Your humble and obediant servant, David S Mallinak ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Help finding image
Drea Leeds has the image on her site in Black and White: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.elizabethancostume.net/low erclass/lcolor.jpgimgrefurl=http://www.elizabethancostume.net/lowerclass/fl emish-dress.htmlh=257w=266sz=69hl=enstart=5sig2=nrGtYqUjKybQHWDsCuquyw tbnid=FCajIe6J7IC0DM:tbnh=109tbnw=113ei=GkL0R9XyJqmkpwTqoYG_DQprev=/ima ges%3Fq%3DSixteenth%2Bcentury%2Bmiddle%2Bclass%2Bwomen%2B%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3De n%26sa%3DG Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 10:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help finding image I don't have an on-line source, but it's on page 80 of my 'Visual History of Costume: The Sixteenth Century' by Jane Ashelford. Karen Seamstrix -- Rebecca Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright - I thought I had one bookmarked, but cannot find it when I need it! I am looking for an online source of the image which shows 4 or 5 English women in mid-16th century, with one of the women labelled something like countrywoman. If I'm not mixing up my images, she is carrying a basket (with chickens) to take to market in town. One of the other women may be a citizen of London Does anyone know what I'm talking about and have a link to this image somewhere?? Thank you!!! *** Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence Bristol Renaissance Faire My arms are too short to box with God. --Johnny Cash *** ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Making History Hip
Hi David! Do you remember who made that DVD with the Highlander Flashbacks? I teach fashion history and this would be SOO cool. Thanks for the help. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David S. Mallinak Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:46 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Making History Hip Saragrace Knauf wrote: I know this may start a firestorm, but I saw this and was wondering why it had taken so long for the media to pick up on this. Of course I know there are lots of opinions on how accurate any of it is with respect to costume, but I think it is kind of cool how the emphasis on making history more accessible through documentary, TV series and movies is making the sport of costuming so much more popular. http://tv.msn.com/tv/hiphistory?GT1=ENTERTAINMENT5 You might add the Highlander TV series. I know the production company made a DVD for schools that chronicled all of the Highlander flashbacks as an introduction different periods and societies. Your humble and obedient servant, David S Mallinak ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT-ish... Tudor and Elizabethan printing
Try Blackadder font -- always looks old or Rennaissance-ish. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew T Trembley Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:15 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] OT-ish... Tudor and Elizabethan printing I need some help (or you can translate this to I'm feeling too lazy to do the research myself right now). I'm looking for two things: • Fonts: anybody know any good renaissance-y fonts? I'm looking for something that is both relatively period-accurate for Tudor and Elizabethan printed books, broadsheets and handbills, and something that the less-than-educated viewer will think Oooh, old! when they see it. Free preferred, but feel free to recommend commercial fonts. OpenType preferred, but feel free to recommend TrueType or PostScript. • Tudor Elizabethan printed things: Books, broadsheets, handbills and signs. Yes, of course, facsimiles preferred, and online sources preferred. At work I've got access to a number of academic online collections, so feel free to recommend restricted services; I might be able to get to them. Andy Trembley ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Anyone seen this in history before?
From the back it reminds me of a Robe a la Polinaise C. 1700s. Or a Roman shade. :-) Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Anyone seen this in history before? In a message dated 3/19/2008 10:36:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.pyramidcollection.com/itemdy00.asp?T1=P8276+S Has anyone ever come across this look in any period in history? The flouncy mode reminds me of some southern belle look, but those are probably permanently sewn in. You will come across a similar idea in the 1860's and the idea remains the same--a method of raising the skirts high enough to stay out of mud, puddles, etc. Occassionally you see it in fashion plates as a trendy thing to do over an elaborate underskirt, but more often than not it was an issue of practicality. To do it, one had the option of purchasing one of the patent Dress Elevators in the magazines, sewing tapes inside your skirt, or simply using pins. ~Joseph **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom0 00301) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] saint/iconography question
H. I'm usually pretty good at this (Catholic school fom grade 1 through grad school) I would have thought the person in the front in red was probably Mary Magdelene because the cup is part of the iconography and it looks like a woman. But I am stumped. St. Joseph is the guy in yellow at the left. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan Farmer Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:58 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] saint/iconography question We've been looking at this painting http://www.wga.hu/art/l/lorenzo/monaco/ador_mag.jpg Billed as Adoration of the Magi by Lorenzo Monaco ca. 1422 Are those really the Magi? (The folks with the halo's). To my *very* untrained eye, they remind me more of saints than Magi. The individual in the peach/orange with the blue head-wrap reminds me more of The Magdalene rather than one of the Magi. I'm not that good with early 15th c. art or saints iconography -- and I know that there are folks on this list that are more knowledgeable than I. Half my brain tells me that I should just take the painting title at face value and go with it, but those 3 individuals aren't like any other representations of Magi that I've seen. Thanks! Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] A good use for bad costume books
One thoing I do with my SCA apprentices is show the drawings/ engravings in the bad costume references next to the original artwork. It really opens their eyes. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Trembley Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:44 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] A good use for bad costume books Robin Netherton wrote: Schaeffer, Astrida wrote: And please, please, if you have Peacock's history of costume (that one's a modern abomination), take it out and burn it. It has nothing but impossible line drawings and no facts to back anything up. If only I could make all copies disappear from library shelves Even better than burning it, send it to the Robin Netherton Home for Wayward Bad Costume Books. I have a shelf full of unreliable sources that I consult frequently when I'm trying to track down the origins of a misconception and to sort out the sequence of a chain of erroneous interpretations. I love discredited sources. On numerous occasions I've threatened to do historical masquerade entries based on known discredited sources (including the idea of doing ancient Egyptian based on Rosicrucian Society dogma for CC23 in Ogden, Utah at the Peery Egyptian Theater). andy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] looking for tudor/elizabethan references
Hi Margaret-- Could you please reference the Bronzino paintings you wrote about? I am VERY interested ... Thanks- Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of margaret Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:08 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] looking for tudor/elizabethan references This is not Tudor or Elizabethan, but Bronzino did at leasttwo of the same person in the same dress with different sleeves. Margaret Help!! My consort and I are preparing a class about visual sources and why they should not be taken as 100% gospel when doing costuming research, and as usual once I get past about 1300 I hit a snag. :-) If you want to discourse on the changes in sleeve geometry from 1200 to 1300 in England and France, I'm your girl. Anything after that, though, and I am at a total loss. Our stated time frame is up to 1600, and we have sources up to and including 1300. However, we would also like to use examples from post 1300 as well, and that's where I come to all you later-period specialists. I have been told that there are several portraits out there, by the same artist, of different sitters, but using the same or almost the same dress. Is this in fact the case, and if so, where can I find images of these portraits? My consort tells me that there are also portraits of various male members of a family all portrayed in the same suit of armor--again, if anyone has any references I can chase down that would be incredibly helpful. And yes, I plan on using the portrait of Elizabeth in the eyes-and-ears gown as an example of symbolism. Many many many thanks, pixel/Jen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Costume shop
Been there, done that! Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Costume shop In a message dated 2/11/2008 11:09:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think most costume shops were designed by someone who had never been IN one, much less worked in one! And theatres are designed by people who have never done anything but sit in the audience. Back stage! We need some back stage space please Not just in the wings. It would be nice to not have to go out in the parking lot to cross from stage left to stage right during a performance. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003 00025 48) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Costume shop
I think most costume shops were designed by someone who had never been IN one, much less worked in one! Monica Former Grad Assistant at the SUNY-Binghamton Costume shop (a LONG time aga) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Suzi Clarke Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 10:36 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Costume shop At 15:14 11/02/2008, you wrote: ?I? should note that UMSL has a brand-new brilliant performing arts? center. I hope the consulted some costume designers when they built the costume? shop--and didn't put it in the basement! With no windows and no place to store anything.? Oh, and no ventillation. ? Ann Wass Cheryl Odom College of Santa Fe And stairs of course, not elevators! Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] OT: quick fabric washing question
Linen shrinks an enormous amount. Especially if it is not pre-washed. Most linen used in Mfg. is not prewashed/preshrunk because the finish will come off and it will look terrible. The linen garment is also usually tailored differently than denim. The fibers of linen react much dirrerent than cotton to water. Lots of denim today is preshrunk and distressed, so a lot of the shrink factor is gone by the time it is cut and sewn. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Audrey Bergeron-Morin Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:56 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: quick fabric washing question Mfgs no longer have the luxury of putting the Dry clean only tag on a garment because it is convenient or safe. Then why do they insist on putting dry clean only on unlined, 100% linen pants? Lined I'd understand, because if they shrink then the lining will be too big, but unlined?? 100% cotton jeans shrink and they don't put a dry clean tag on them, why would they do it for linen if it's because of the shrinkage? Becase people don't know how to iron them after they've been washed? It's certainly not because of the dye (the two pairs of pants in question were white and natural-coloured)... then why? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] OT: quick fabric washing question
Actually, with all due respect, that is not necessarily true. I worked in the garment industry for 25 years as a designer, patternmaker and technical desuigner. Most stores require testing as part of their Quality Assurance program.Part of that is Wash testing. The federal govermnent no longer lets manufacturers put a dry clean only tag on a garment. A manufacturer must allow the customer the ability to wash with specific directions (cold water, bleach, etc.. If a fabric/garment has been PROVEN to be damaged by the use of a specific thing (hot water, detergent, bleach, etc) then the MFG. can say on their tag Cold water only or Dry clean only etc. Mfgs no longer have the luxury of putting the Dry clean only tag on a garment because it is convenient or safe. I found this out the hard way when deakling with Nordstroms a few years ago. They INSISTED on putting Use dry bleach when necessary tag on their girl's swimwear. If it says Dry Clean only, follow the directions. Then if something happens, you can return it to the store, who will in turn send it to the Manufacturer. If you have improperly cleaned something, it is not necessarily the store's problem. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dawn Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 1:16 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: quick fabric washing question monica spence wrote: I'd dry clean it. Rayon sometimes is not colorfast to washing. If the tag says dry clean, then dryclean. Most of the time the tag says dry clean because the manufacturer doesn't know how to clean it, and dry cleaning is safe. They are required by law to put care tags on the garments, but for many it is too much cost and effort to research the best method for a particular fabric or a line of clothing. So it says dry clean and they are covered. It's probably ok to hand wash it in cool water with a mild soap. If you are concerned about colorfastness, test swab it with a damp q-tip or cotton ball. Dry it in a rolled up towel, and press it on a very low iron setting. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] OT: quick fabric washing question
Hi! Try the Federal Trade Commission website. I don't know if small busnesses are required to test, but if your garments are sold in certain stores, you will be. The big stores and catalogues (Wal-mart, Target, Sears, JC Penney, Disney, etc.) that I worked with required testing and provided HUGE manuals. They also told us to use specific testing labs that knew the store requirements. The outcomes of the tests were sent to the stores and the manufacturer. Testing is really expensive. It is one of the reason that 95% of US manufacturinng has gone off-shore to places where a worker makes 30 cents an hour. But that is another discussion. :-( Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sylvia Rognstad Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 11:37 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: quick fabric washing question Do you have any idea where one finds these instructions? I have a small online clothing business and put dry clean only on a lot of my tags. I'd like further information on the legalities. Sylrog On Feb 9, 2008, at 9:05 AM, monica spence wrote: Actually, with all due respect, that is not necessarily true. I worked in the garment industry for 25 years as a designer, patternmaker and technical desuigner. Most stores require testing as part of their Quality Assurance program.Part of that is Wash testing. The federal govermnent no longer lets manufacturers put a dry clean only tag on a garment. A manufacturer must allow the customer the ability to wash with specific directions (cold water, bleach, etc.. If a fabric/garment has been PROVEN to be damaged by the use of a specific thing (hot water, detergent, bleach, etc) then the MFG. can say on their tag Cold water only or Dry clean only etc. Mfgs no longer have the luxury of putting the Dry clean only tag on a garment because it is convenient or safe. I found this out the hard way when deakling with Nordstroms a few years ago. They INSISTED on putting Use dry bleach when necessary tag on their girl's swimwear. If it says Dry Clean only, follow the directions. Then if something happens, you can return it to the store, who will in turn send it to the Manufacturer. If you have improperly cleaned something, it is not necessarily the store's problem. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dawn Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 1:16 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: quick fabric washing question monica spence wrote: I'd dry clean it. Rayon sometimes is not colorfast to washing. If the tag says dry clean, then dryclean. Most of the time the tag says dry clean because the manufacturer doesn't know how to clean it, and dry cleaning is safe. They are required by law to put care tags on the garments, but for many it is too much cost and effort to research the best method for a particular fabric or a line of clothing. So it says dry clean and they are covered. It's probably ok to hand wash it in cool water with a mild soap. If you are concerned about colorfastness, test swab it with a damp q-tip or cotton ball. Dry it in a rolled up towel, and press it on a very low iron setting. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] OT: quick fabric washing question
I'd dry clean it. Rayon sometimes is not colorfast to washing. If the tag says dry clean, then dryclean. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cozit / Liz Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:34 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] OT: quick fabric washing question I'm one of those folks who often washes things by hand that tell you to dry clean - when they're 100% polyester, linen, and usually rayon and silk (depends on how daring I feel with that one, as it varies a lot). I just bought a nice dress that is 75% rayon, 25% polyester. It says dry clean only, short cycle but also says light steam, light press. I'm guessing that I could probably get away with washing this also (hey, I've got allergy skin - the fewer chemicals up against it the better)... but wanted to ask this group if anyone's tried washing that combination with decent results before... as I'm feeling nervous about the combo. My *guess* is that the polyester is mostly in the design of the fabric, not in the general weave... it's jacquard-ish leaf patterned slightly shinier than the matte black of the rest of the material. Anyone out there able to say either probably ok or definitely don't? It was under $100, but more than I'd really like to throw out by totally messing it up before wearing. Fingers crossed! -Liz (hey, I never run into this when doing costuming - I wash the heck of the material before I sew it - but no time to manage to make something before I need it in March) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39
Hi Richard-- What a great idea! Thanks! Monica (Catriona) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Harper Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 39 There are probably some really simple solutions that I haven't thought of, but do the list persons have any tips about getting long hems level? The simplest thing I have found to do: 1. Get a chalk skirt marker (a tall plastic rod with a chalk marker attached, usually with a bulb for blowing a chalk mark). I believe the most popular maker these days is Dritz and they are not expensive. 2. Stand on a settee or box so that the skirt hangs free all the way around; make sure you are wearing any proper undergarments and proper shoes. 3. Have a friend corroborate with you where you'd like the hem to be, then while you stand up straight (at a natural stance, of course) have your friend go all the way around you and mark the hem with the chalk marker. This will work even if your hems are beyond floor level. If you are dealing with a train, then mark the skirt the correct length for walking at the front and sides. Figure out what length you'd like the train to be (and the angle you'd like it to achieve), and mark it at your pleasure while it is off your body. This method works very well no matter what the circumference; I have marked huge ball gown hems this way -- you have to move the fabric about to make sure you get enough marks, but they always come out beautifully. Richard in MI ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Re: Tudors and sweating sickness
Eleonora of Toledo and her sons died of malaria in 1560. There were regular outbreaks in the Mamerra (Tuscany). Cosimo I, the Duke of Florence, (her husband, the boy's father) worked on draining the swampy area for years. Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kate M Bunting Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Re: Tudors and sweating sickness Julie wrote: Interesting. My daughter mentioned malaria but I told her it couldn't be that because it's tropical. Cholera was mentioned as well. I was thinking along the lines of the horrible influenza in the U.S. in 19...teens that killed so many. Wasn't it called the Spanish Influenza? Not just in the US - my father's uncle, a Derbyshire vicar, died of it in 1918 after taking many other victims' funerals, and it was widespread on the European continent. I think malaria (ague) and cholera were recognised diseases in the 16th century, so the sweating sickness must have been something different. Kate Bunting Cataloguing Data Quality Librarian University of Derby ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Costume related Christmas gifts
I got a comfy. but beautiful, chair for my desk where I write, a digital camera, a table for the living room, pearl earrings, a HUGE Barns and Noble gift cert., lingerie, books on history (Alexander the great, and Kings-- for my costume history class.) I bought my husband a bunch of wonderful picture books (Battles, Weapons and Warriors) that will probably find their way to my scanner really soon-- great costume pics. And videos. I bought myself the fresco books and Dress at the Court of King Henry VIII and some others... Now to find a place for everything... Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Catherine Olanich Raymond Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 4:05 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Costume related Christmas gifts On Tuesday 25 December 2007, Lavolta Press wrote: Aren't we having annual discussion? I got _Dress at the Court of King Henry VIII_, _Ancient Textiles: Production, Craft, and Society_, _Purses in Pieces_, a Fortuny-like olive-colored crushed silk sleeveless dress, and two Christmas ornaments of rather naughty-looking fairies in dressed in pastel Edwardian lingerie. Also some science fiction and fantasy books; a whole bunch of spices, seeds, nuts, and tea from an Indian grocery store and elsewhere; a bottle of elderberry wine; a bottle of dandelion wine; a multi-region DVD player; and an IPOD (I plan to get rid of the IPOD ASAP). I bought myself a number of costuming books this year, and in fact got a number of books for Christmas, but none of the Christmas books were costume-related. They included The Far Traveller; Colors: A History of the Palette; Ancient Egyptian Dances; God's Secret Agents : Queen Elizabeth's Forbidden Priests and the Hatching of the Gunpowder Plot; Letters from Nuremberg: My Father's Narrative of a Quest for Justice Also received: the soundtrack for Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (the third movie); a small fire extinguisher for the kitchen; Munchkin Impossible (a card game); The Good, the Bad, and the Munchkin (ditto); miscellaneous small items, and a $50 Barnes Noble gift card to share with my husband. -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.-- Mark Twain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] dress in Stuart England
Hi Bjarne-- Sorry for the dalay in posting. I am trying to decorate for Chrisstmas. I have this book. I would recomend it for the pictures alone-- lots of gorgeous color plates, with details. If you are able to get it for a good price, I would buy it. I bought it for full price, but it was worth it! Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Leif og Bjarne Drews Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 2:33 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] dress in Stuart England Sorry i post again, can it really be, that noone on the list knows anything about this book? Fashion and Fiction: Dress in Art and Literature in Stuart England (Paul Mellon Centre for Studies in British Art) (Hardcover) by Aileen Ribeiro Has it manny pictures, or is it more of a text book? Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
