Is Stevie Gamble still on list? I know she lives in London.
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I particularly like the look of a three-piece suit (getting rarer these days).
Kate Bunting
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Does anyone else find a man in a well-fitted suit drop-dead sexy? Rarr!
Dianne
Given the (officially) low status of women in the past (though many no doubt
found ways of exerting influence), I can't imagine it ever having been the norm
for wives to choose their husbands' clothes. As for dressing up, don't forget
that before the 19th century well-to-do men often chose to
That's interesting. Steve's work is really too early for the period I do, but
as I spend a week in the Ludlow area every August, a few years ago I thought I
would look for his workshop out of curiosity. I located it in a tiny, remote
village, but a notice outside said it was not open to the
No criticism intended. The previous poster referred to a shop in Ludlow, which
surprised me as I was only aware of the village workshop which isn't officially
open to the public. I didn't attempt to make contact as I had only gone there
out of idle curiosity, not to buy anything in particular.
Advantages and disadvantages (from the Latin pro (for) and contra (against).
Kate Bunting
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Let me know what this pros and cons are.
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Did any UK list members see the first episode of this new series? It's what
we've all been longing for; a historical reconstruction series using experts
instead of whingeing, bickering members of the public. Five people are working
an early 17th century farm; they don't know how to do
BBC2 (Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be a website for the series.)
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 22/08/2005 16:28
Which channel airs it? if it is bbc I might be able to see it over the
internet, would be nice.
Tania
Thanks, Suzi. I, too, had searched the BBC website but could only find it
mentioned in the listings. Typical that TV companies make a big fanfare over
all the standard historical reconstruction programmes, but not this really
worthwhile one (though there was a feature in Radio Times).
Kate
Julie,
Ca just means about (abbreviation of the Latin circa).
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 31/08/2005 03:28
OMIGOSH! These are gorgeous...and the embroidered silk is to die for.
Can someone more knowledgeable about European currency give me an idea
As far as I know the first reenactment group in the UK was the Sealed Knot,
which started with an event staged in 1968 to publicise a book on the Battle of
Edgehill by Brig. Peter Young. I first heard the term living history when the
SK started demonstrating crafts etc. in a period encampment
I think the distinction people are trying to make is between private events
intended for the participants' own pleasure, and public events intended to
entertain and educate a non-costumed audience.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/09/2005 00:53
SCA
What fantastic pictures - love the theatre - the bears are cute too.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 14/09/2005 01:44
www.ckrumlov.cz/uk/seznamy/t_obrzam.htm
Stumbled across this site while looking for something else. Appears to
be a Czechoslovakian
Wow! Fantastic - I wish I was anywhere near Guildford.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 16/09/2005 03:54
http://www.guildford.gov.uk/GuildfordWeb/Leisure/Guildford+House/Exhibitions/Golden+Bees+Costume.htm
Golden Bees : An exhibition of ladies costume
I watched it on TV, and there were certainly at least two series, if not more.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 21/09/2005 00:29
I have a six-tape set of the BBC series _The House of Elliot_. There is
a DVD set out advertised as series one and just
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 21/09/2005 18:03
At 17:30 21/09/2005, you wrote:
Suzi Clarke wrote:
The learning and teaching of history in Britain is getting worse and
worse
Yes - I was amazed on Saturday when watching the TV quiz Who wants to be a
What lovely pictures, Bjarne! So sorry to hear about your broken wrist.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/09/2005 20:41 wrote
But isn't much (or even most) of that look an optical illusion rather
than actual physical posture? Lots of floof in the front and a pad
for the buttocks should give that look.
Not entirely. I
There is about to be a new BBC version of Bleak House dramatised by Andrew
Davis of Pride and Prejudice fame, with Gillian Anderson in the Diana Rigg
role. The previous version was 1985 according to Radio Times.
The version of The Woman in White shown on TV a few years back took
considerable
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/10/2005 19:09 wrote
.I am looking forward to the new Bleak House. Do you know when it will
be coming out and especially, coming out on DVD?
It starts on UK TV next week. I suppose it will come out on DVD after the
Correction - Bleak House doesn't start this week after all. There was a
feature in Radio Times, but it looks as though the actual first episode will
not be shown until later in the month.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/10/2005 08:41
With your hint of the Sture shirt (I knew of the suits, but not the shirt),
I did some google searching and found a possible pattern and detail photos
of the Sture shirt, and info on the woman's
That's interesting. I've never heard of this author or her character before. As
far as I was aware, the name Samantha was unknown in Britain before the 1960s,
(it isn't in the first edition of the Oxford Dictionary of English Christian
Names) and I had been grumbling because the TV series
Out of curiosity, Robin, do you know if the Baltic squirrel was a distinct
species, or a local variant of the European squirrel Sciurus vulgaris? British
ones (now sadly rare) are bright red, and I've seen dark brown ones in
Switzerland. I can imagine that Northern ones might develop a thicker
Saw the first episode of this dramatisation (which we were discussing earlier)
last night, and enjoyed it very much. I'm not a Victorian expert, but the
costumes seemed fine to me, except that I don't know why Esther was travelling
without a bonnet on in the early scenes, when she was seen
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/10/2005 08:11
wrote:
Hmmm, perhaps look at portraits of Prince Albert, or
Charles Dickens?
Or how about the American President of that time
frame?
our fashions were probably close to England's at he
time.
Neither of
I would love to see a picture of this. I see it was more than a year ago, but
I've never heard of it before.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/11/2005 07:34
Hello all!
I usually just lurk and love reading the posts, but came across
an item I
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/11/2005 20:28 wrote:
I always edge the chemise in lace rather than sewing the lace to the dress,
because the chemise is much easier to launder. With the actresses in make-up,
the lace gets soiled easily but the dress
Since working all knit stitches is known as garter stitch, knitted garters must
have been common at some period!
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 23/11/2005 11:56
Dame Catriona... Hey there...
I don't know of any knitted garters. I've looked at lots of
Yes, I think sometimes a history play is costumed as a later period to make the
audience aware of the similarities with the political situation in an era that
they're more familiar with (if that makes sense).
I remember enjoying the BBC TV Shakespeare production of All's Well that Ends
Well
I've never owned a steam iron and neither has my Mum. Now that I have a tumble
dryer, I only give the clothes a short tumble (which shakes the worst creases
out of knitted cotton garments) and iron them while still damp. If they have
got too dry I spray them with water.
Kate Bunting
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Coming late into this discussion, I was going to say that my Swedish dictionary
gives silkespapper for tissue paper. Interesting to know the reason for the
name.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/12/2005 19:53
Hi Debbie,
Now i understand. Many thanks for
The proposed website for our Renaissance music group still hasn't got off the
ground, but you can now see a couple of photos of me in costume on the Sealed
Knot Living History Group website http://livinghistorygroup.co.uk/musicians.htm
. In the first, I'm wearing a linen Hollar-style cap made
Happy Christmas to one and all! I'm signing off now as I shall be away from my
computer until 4th January.
On 1/2 Jan. the music group will be playing in one of the old houses at the
Weald and Downland Museum
http://www.wealddown.co.uk/
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
I found it hard to believe that women used not to wear drawers until I saw
Rowlandson's Exhibition Stare-Case - admittedly not 16th century, but...
http://www.wisc.edu/english/tkelley/NASSR/images/2Rowlandsonstare2.jpg
No doubt in cold weather they put on extra petticoats. After all, underwear
We don't really know - such information was too well known/too distasteful to
be written down anywhere. Protection that sticks on to the underwear is a very
recent development, however. Previously a belt arrangement was used, for which
pants were not strictly necessary.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/01/2006 05:36 wrote:
For men, toileting is done differently from women at least half the time,
which changes the mechanical considerations. It's interesting to note that
in tunic-wearing periods, men often had shorter
Not just castles. At New Year our music group played for two days in a 17th
century cottage at the Weald Downland Open-air Museum. Luckily the weather
wasn't freezing as it had been for a spell after Christmas, but even with a log
fire we were none too warm (especially with the door being
You could get nylons mended commercially, too. As a young child in the 1950s I
remember a shop in Derby where women sat in the window working under desk
lamps, and my mother telling me that they were mending stockings.
Kate Bunting
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If you mean April Fools' Day, Robin, we do have that in Europe too!
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 14/01/2006 14:56
Hi, Onaree. MCT is an annual journal; it's scheduled to come out every
spring, in time for the Medieval Congress in Kalamazoo early in May.
I learned Poisson d'Avril in French class too, but I don't know any more
about it. I suspect the whole April Fool thing is much older than the
founding of America, though.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 16/01/2006 19:12
Sylvia Rognstad wrote:
If you mean
The caption says that the outfit is with sash and mask, not that it is FOR a
masque. Presumably the mask is the black thing in her right hand. In this
period riding habits were often made with the upper half exactly like men's
clothing - Pepys mentions it as a new fashion in the 1660s. Sashes
Precisely what I meant when referring to our cottage at the museum. The fire
was lit each day as we arrived; in real life it would have been going all day
and perhaps, banked down, all night, so the fireplace structure would have
absorbed some of the heat (though a lot went up the chimney).
For Elizabeth's coronation dress, see
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/server/show/conWebDoc.6126/viewPage/2
The impression I had from the photos in Radio Times was of the ladies'
dresses looking rather lightweight, more like 18th century fabrics.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
I'd wanted to try stumpwork for ages and had on e of the Jane Nicholas books
for Christmas a couple of years ago. I found it useful, but admit I haven't
done very much stumpwork after all; I like to sew or knit while watching TV,
and find that stumpwork requires too much concentration to be
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 29/01/2006 21:17 wrote:
Also, I was talking to a friend on Friday who mentioned she's had
great success bringing over packages of Jelly Bellies jelly beans.
She says you can't get them in Britain (and they actually are
In costume or any other terms, extant means still in existence.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 31/01/2006 12:44
I've seen the word Exant. What does this mean in costume terms?
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Watched Episode 2 last night. The men's anachronistic breeches were more
obvious this week (though I liked the tennis scenes), and, as someone
commented, the women's skirts don't look as though they have enough support
(perhaps the designers thought that farthingales would look as odd to
Rhonda mentioned tablet - we don't even have that in England. I discovered it
when I went to the Orkney Islands in 2003; the hotel gave us a square of it
with our after-dinner coffee onstead of a mint. (It's a hard fudge made in
blocks which can be broken into squares like a chocolate bar.)
Fascinating article, Margaret! Your parasols look great.
One minor point; Sir Henry Unton would be referred to as Sir Henry, not Sir
Unton. ( Sir is never used with the family name alone. I suppose knighthood
existed before surnames were established.)
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century
Zuzana, I've never come across this film before, but the dress in the
photograph looks historically inaccurate to me. Costume designers in the 1960s
used to dress the leading ladies according to the modern taste for a natural
bustline; they thought audiences would find straight-fronted bodices
No, I haven't found it a problem either: after all, the high waist of the
Cavalier style isn't as extreme as that of the Empire line. I'm long-waisted,
but I make my bodices come down to my lower ribs and wear my bumroll round my
waist. It sits on my hipbones and supports the waist of my
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/02/2006 04:15 wrote:
Actually, d'Artagnan was a real person, and was a member, eventually
captain, of the King's Musketeers. However, the historical Charles de
Batz-Castlemore d'Artagnan was born somewhere around 1625
To me, the facial expression in the rose pink version looks slightly
different from nos. 1 and 3. I think I remember seeing that version in the
Queen's Gallery at Buckingham Palace about 20 years ago. If it's in the Royal
Collection it may well now be at Windsor.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and
Speaking of redwork, do you know the one of Bess of Hardwick? Go to
http://worldroots.com/brigitte/royal/british/brit-h.htm and click on the first
link under her name. I love the way the white fur lining pokes out of the
bodice opening.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
Well, the colour name pink is supposed to derive from the flower, which is so
called because the edges of the petals are pinked. The uncultivated form of
the flower is pink rather than scarlet.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 21/02/2006 19:02
Referring to
But Bess of Hardwick was not the Queen Mother (although she hoped her
granddaughter Arbella Stuart might become queen); nor did any English or
Scottish monarch at that time have their mother still alive.
Can't see the inscription on my monitor, but presumably the portrait was once
thought to
Sort of. Bess's fourth husband, the Earl of Shrewsbury, was Mary's jailer and
the two ladies did embroidery together, but later the marriage broke down on
account of Bess's jealousy of Mary. Bess is buried here in Derby and Lord S. in
Sheffield.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century
Yes, I would have suggested that, but I thought the SCA stopped at 1600? He
could wear doublet and breeches (no codpiece) with a plain falling band - no
need for lace or ribbons if he doesn't want them.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 23/02/2006 11:45
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 26/02/2006 23:44 wrote: [snip]
but it the things that really irritate me (probably in equal measure) is the
assumption that if you get bigger, you somehow magically get taller too; and
the retailers that stop at a size
It's also reproduced in The Art of Dress, where it's attributed to a follower
of Hans Eworth. No explanation is offered for the inscription Maria Regina.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/03/2006 07:00
At 07:41 AM 2/28/2006, you wrote:
Mistress
My mother has had to go into a nursing home and I'm clearing her house. I've
found numerous tablecloths and napkins, some quite old and interesting, a lot
of which have food stains on. I've washed them with Vanish (if you don't have
that in the US, it's a new oxygen-based stain remover) but it
Splendid pictures! I love the middle one on the second row; it looks like a
painting by Joseph Wright ( the famous artist from my home town of Derby who
specialised in, among other things, candlelight scenes). See
http://www.mezzo-mondo.com/arts/mm/wright/WRJ014.html
Kate Bunting
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A comedy sketch show on BBC Radio 4 had a running gag about a middle-aged
superwoman figure who arrived saying Is it me, or is it hot in here?, but was
able to solve problems by knowing things that younger people don't (such as
having the multiplication tables in her head).
Kate Bunting
Penny,
I know it as just Isabella. The story goes that a Queen of Spain vowed not to
change her clothes until a certain military campaign had succeeded. Isabella is
a greyish-yellow, supposedly the colour her shift became! Casn't quote any
sources OTOH, but I've seen it mentioned in literature.
We discussed a 17th century print of a lady in a riding habit not long ago. It
was in the 1660s that ladies began to wear habits with the upper half copying
masculine attire.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/03/2006 16:33:00
Thanks, Melusine.
From what
the link to that print, handy, so I can catch up ?
Susan
Slow down. The trail is the thing, not the end of the trail. Travel
too fast and you miss all you are traveling for. - Ride the Dark
Trail by Louis L'Amour
On Mar 8, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Kate M Bunting wrote:
We discussed a 17th century
Well, the caption says it's a hunting costume, and the coat, neckcloth,
hairstyle and hat are copies from those worn by men at that time. A few decades
earlier Samuel Pepys commented on the new fashion for ladies' riding outfits
with the upper garments for all the world like mine but with a
As I've mentioned before, I found it hard to believe that women used not to
wear drawers until I saw the Rowlandson print Exhibition Stare Case, which
shows 18th century women tumbling down stairs and obviously not wearing any.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
We've debated this topic more than once and the general consensus seems to be
that chemises/shifts before the 18th century had stitched-down gathers, not
drawstrings. 17th century reenactors commonly do make shifts with drawstrings,
presumably because that's how we would make modern garments
Gather the sleeves into wristbands, closed with ribbon ties. The neck gathers
can be stitched onto a band or facing (something like the ecclesiastical
surplice, only they usually have a wider band at the top than you would want on
a shift).
According to Nicole Kipar, who used to be on this
The only one I know of is that young boys wore the toga praetexta with a
purple (I think) border.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 14/03/2006 13:07
I was rewatching Gladiators this weekend and wondered if there were some
color system to the toga trims. In
I believe magenta was one of the aniline dyes invented in the later 19th
century and was named after a battle in Napoleon III's reign - but I assume the
poster was referring to a natural colour approaching that shade.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/03/2006 21:49
I always thought that magenta was
I can only think of Rembrandt's portrait of Jan Six.
http://www.artchive.com/artchive/R/rembrandt/jan_six.jpg.html has links to 2
articles which discuss the significance of the gloves in this picture.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/03/2006 12:48
What
Bjarne, can you explain how 17th century men's linen cuffs (wristbands) were
pinned on? I used to wear male 17th century attire when I was younger, but was
never able to work out a satisfactory way to get the white cuffs to stay in
place. I made them to fasten round my wrist inside the doublet
The ruffle looks to me like an early 19th century shirt-frill. Clerical bands
are not ruffled - and a cassock is not a shirt but a close-fitting coat with
long skirts.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 21/03/2006 13:38
My immediate take of this pattern item
That's right - it's the French for tail. In the UK we also use it for what
Americans call standing in line.
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 22/03/2006 19:30
In a message dated 3/22/2006 2:15:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I
I love the Dutch lady's jacket, Nicole. One of these days when I have a bit of
spare time I mean to make one of those for myself...
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/03/2006 23:32
Thank you ever so much for your kind words, Bjarne, Saragrace and Jean. :-)
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:43:44 -0500
The one with the fur? YES
Susan
Creative Clutter is Better Than Idle Neatness
Carol H.
On Mar 23, 2006, at 11:51 AM, Kate M Bunting wrote:
I
Monica, presumably you know the Georges de la Tour painting Le nouveau-ne?
Can only find a rather poor version on the Web
http://www.isabel.com/gallery/reprofr/l/latour/index.html
Kate Bunting
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Lovely costumes, Suzi!
I'm curious about the very shiny fabric of the lilac gown. It looks much
glossier than the satin ones. Is it a period fabric?
Kate Bunting
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 30/03/2006 14:37
If anyone is interested, this website, a newly revised
Sounds fantastic! Must look out for it.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/04/2006 23:53
The following book review was in a recent Library Journal.
I thought some of the list members might be interested.
The book just came out.
Sheryl N-D
Ribeiro, Aileen.
Kid gloves were commonly worn with smart clothing in the 19th century. A kid
is a young goat.
We also have a saying to handle something/someone with kid gloves meaning
very carefully or tactfully, kid gloves being thinner and more supple than
ordinary leather ones.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/04/2006 23:42
Considering how many people tragically died on the Titanic, and
considering that something is known about the more upper-crust ones at
least, I was amazed the producers didn't use a real story with main
characters who were really there.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/04/2006 13:48 wrote
... or the sad love lorn character [Poirot]...
I think you mean Pierrot - Poirot is Agatha Christie's Belgian detective!
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My 17th century costumes are mainly inspired by Hollar's engravings of women
http://www.costumes.org/history/100pages/HOLLAR.HTM
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 26/04/2006 14:00
Speaking of historical paintings, what are your favorites for
costume
I assume it's the revival by Mendelssohn that Genie was referring to. Before
that, Bach's music may have been known to professional musicians but he wasn't
thought of as a major composer by the average music-lover.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 26/04/2006
No, I didn't use the word lost - that was another poster whom I was
supporting.
I found this: http://www.carolinaclassical.com/mendelssohn/index.html
(paragraphs 9 and 10) which gives some support to both assertions.
Kate Bunting
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I made a man's civilian suit for myself when I gave up soldiering (to wear when
I didn't feel like trailing round in petticoats). I used a borrowed pattern
(Merchant Adventurers, I think). The breeches are gathered onto a solid
waistband closed with two buttons, and not attached to the doublet
These were shown in the UK a few months ago. (Robert Lindsay, the leading
actor, comes from a town a few miles from my home city.) I liked the '50s
setting too (I was born in 1951), though as a detective drama I prefer Foyle's
War, set in the 1940s.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century
I hate sewing, though I quite enjoy embroidery and knitting. My Mum hated it
too, and I got little help or encouragement from needlework classes at school.
I used to make clothes for teenage dolls, but they were very crude and
amateurish.
I've made a few garments for myself, but mostly on odd
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 23/05/2006 02:22
On Monday 22 May 2006 3:42 pm, Audrey Bergeron-Morin wrote:
[snip]
So, when I joined the SCA, sewing became the way to obtain the
costumes I wanted. I think to this day I like having made something
more
Lovely, Kristin! That flower print fabric is perfect for the style.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 23/05/2006 02:21
Well, I haven't had a chance to upload recent pictures until this evening,
but here's a link to the late 1700's outfit I've been working on
You are fortunate, Julian. There are no dress fabric shops left here in
Derby, England, only one or two market stalls, and the only one of those
that sold wool has now closed. I have to rely on the traders at
reenactment events for fabric suitable for historical costume.
Kate Bunting
Librarian
UK list members may be interested to know that I've discovered that the
Partners chain of stationers carry tissue paper which is stated to be
acid-free and suitable for vintage textiles (confirmed by email to head
office).
http://www.partners-stationers.co.uk/
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th
Just to clarify - what date are you actually talking about? To me,
1600s means 1600-1610, but a lot of people now seem to be using it to
mean the 17th century in general, in which case farthingales were no
longer worn by mid-century. Or was it a slip of the finger for 16th
century?
Kate Bunting
I was away when the original message was posted and, when I got back,
couldn't access the page. Now I have seen the corset, I agree with what
others have said. The long waist and dropped shoulders suggest to me the
1650s-60s.
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
Looking in the archives, I see this exhibition was discussed at the time, and
the catalogue was said to be expected in 2005. A copy has just turned up on my
desk for cataloguing (dated 2006!), and it is indeed a beautiful book, with
many 18th century paintings and prints as well as photos of
The embroidered stomacher with the birds looks exquisite!
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
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Seventeenth-century breeches, which were always fairly voluminous, were
closed with an unconcealed row of buttons. I suppose as the garment
became more close-fitting, a simple button closure must have been seen
as unattractive and the fall front evolved, with the buttons concealed
under the
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