Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-14 Thread bphall76
: Thu, Aug 13, 2009 4:23 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait Many moons ago I sprung for the Dharma trading collection of silk swatches- very informative! Good luck, Betsy -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-14 Thread albertcat
The dress is most likely cotton or a cotton/linen blend. Cotton was very expensive before the invention of the cotton gin in 1793 (?) and the portrait is 1780-something. It was also a scandal! The QUEEN! In a chemise gown usually reserved for at home wear, not for public And doing

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-14 Thread albertcat
Much more affordable than the sheer linen, which I cannot imaging JoAnn's having ever carried. ** I once found yardage of cotton almost-gauze in the drapery dept. of an everything $7 store! It came in off white and a deep rich red, yellow and a navy! Imagine a dress

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-14 Thread Laurie Taylor
, August 14, 2009 8:15 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait Dharma also has some very lightweight cotton that could work well for this dress.? They have both a combed cotton lawn and two cotton voiles. Britta/Vasilisa

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-14 Thread Laurie Taylor
] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait Much more affordable than the sheer linen, which I cannot imaging JoAnn's having ever carried. ** I once found yardage of cotton almost-gauze in the drapery dept. of an everything $7 store! It came in off white and a deep

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-14 Thread Maggie
Cotton voile is what immediately sprang to my mind. Not my period however, so it's just a thought. MaggiRos Maggie Secara ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 Available at your favorite online bookseller See our gallery at http://www.zazzle.com/popinjaypress On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:14

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-13 Thread otsisto
You are looking at possibly an ecru silk chiffon lined with white linen or cotton. The shoulder region is not a different material from the sleeve, it is the two layers only flat. The edges of the ruffles seem to have either bia tape, ribbon or possibly embroidered edge.

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-13 Thread annbwass
...@indra.com Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2009 4:40 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait You are looking at possibly an ecru silk chiffon lined with white linen or cotton. The shoulder region is not a different material from the sleeve, it is the two layers only flat

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-13 Thread Laurie Taylor
, August 13, 2009 1:41 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait You are looking at possibly an ecru silk chiffon lined with white linen or cotton. The shoulder region is not a different material from the sleeve, it is the two layers only flat

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-13 Thread Laurie Taylor
. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:29 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait Yes, that is the infamous

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-13 Thread Melanie Schuessler
I wouldn't use silk chiffon. It has no body at all and will lay limp rather than in the soft ruffles shown, and silk organza is (as you say) too stiff. You'd be better off with a nice sheer cotton--back it with something more opaque for the body and sleeves. That way you'll get the airy

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-13 Thread Carol Kocian
On Aug 13, 2009, at 9:29 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Yes, that is the infamous chemise gown and would have been made of lightweight linen or cotton--supposed Marie Antoinette adopted the style worn by the Creoles in the hot and steamy Caribbean. It is possible that, during the time, an

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-13 Thread Sharon Collier
Very sheer, lightweight cotton. It drapes like the picture. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Taylor Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:34 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-13 Thread otsisto
I know that there is a very nice near sheer material out there that is a cotton linen blend, Jo Ann's used to carry it. Somewhere on line I had seen the sheer linen but is was $36 per. aprox. 1yd x 26 and it would have to be shipped from Europe to the states. Out of price, out of range so I didn't

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-13 Thread Laurie Taylor
: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait I know that there is a very nice near sheer material out there that is a cotton linen blend, Jo Ann's used to carry it. Somewhere on line I had seen the sheer linen but is was $36 per. aprox. 1yd x 26 and it would have to be shipped

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-13 Thread Betsy Marshall
Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait A cotton/linen blend sounds nice, and might have a bit more of the crispness that is evident in the chemise dress. I'm actually contemplating the cotton/silk blend from http://www.renaissancefabrics.net/cgi-bin

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-12 Thread Carol Kocian
That's a chemise dress. It would have been linen or cotton. Yes,they made it that sheer back then. On Aug 12, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Laurie Taylor wrote: Hello, My mad scramble to get myself ready for Costume College left me with a new goal, but I'm very uncertain about fabric. I

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-12 Thread Laurie Taylor
-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Carol Kocian Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:48 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait That's a chemise dress. It would have been linen or cotton. Yes

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-12 Thread Betsy Marshall
- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Taylor Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 9:00 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait I realize that it is a cotton or linen chemise dress, but I'm

Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait

2009-08-12 Thread Laurie Taylor
Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Fabric suggestions - Marie Antoinette 1786 portrait It looks like the ruffles on neck and forearm are of thinner material than the main body of the dress- eg. I can see the line of the forearm, (but not the elbow/upper arm) through the fabric; perhaps a light/hanky linen