A reluctant self-nomination

2015-09-25 Thread Mario Blažević
I'm hereby self-nominating for the Haskell' commitee. The main reason I'm applying is because I'm afraid that the commitee might disband like the previous one. If there are enough members already, feel free to ignore my nomination. That being said, here are my qualifications: I started prog

Re: Breaking Changes and Long Term Support Haskell

2015-10-22 Thread Mario Blažević
On 15-10-22 09:29 AM, Geoffrey Mainland wrote: ... 1) What is the master plan, and where is it documented, even if this document is not up to the standard of a proposal? What is the final target, and when might we expect it to be reached? What is in the pipeline after MRP? Relatedly, guidance o

Re: Infrastructure & Communication

2016-04-29 Thread Mario Blažević
On 04/29/2016 07:15 AM, Francesco Ariis wrote: Hello, personally I would be more likely to read/participate in the discussions if such discussions were hosted here or on Trac rather than Github. There are two or three distinct components we need to keep track of: the draft standard, d

Re: Infrastructure & Communication

2016-04-29 Thread Mario Blažević
On 16-04-29 09:22 AM, Richard Eisenberg wrote: I think the general interplay between mailing lists / wiki pages / Trac issues that GHC uses works well. Specifically: - Mailing list for routine communication. - Trac tickets / Git issues / Phab something-or-other for discussion on a specific prop

Re: Meet up at ICFP?

2016-09-16 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2016-09-14 02:17 PM, José Manuel Calderón Trilla wrote: Richard has also volunteered to act as secretary for the meeting so that the minutes of the meeting can be posted. Thanks Richard! Thanks from all of us who can't attend as well. Please do post the minutes!

Re: Process question

2016-10-05 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2016-10-04 01:09 PM, Iavor Diatchki wrote: Hello, Now that we've started with a few proposal, I am realizing that I have no idea how to proceed from here. In particular: 1. How would I request I proposal to be rejected 2. How would I request that a proposal be accepted I don't know if we

Re: Proposal: accept tuple sections

2016-10-13 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2016-10-12 12:41 PM, Iavor Diatchki wrote: Hello, it seems that there isn't much controversy over the TupleSections propsal, so I'd like to move the we accept it for the next language standard. Does anyone have any objections? I have no objection to the proposal in the abstract, but I don

Re: Proposal: Include InstanceSigs

2016-11-02 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2016-11-01 05:55 PM, Joachim Breitner wrote: done: https://github.com/haskell/rfcs/pull/13 I did not copy the detailed description from the GHC manual to the proposal yet. Is it ok to defer that until the proposal has been approved, or at least until approval is known to be likely? I se

Re: Default module header `module Main where`

2017-05-19 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2017-05-16 10:18 AM, Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi, a very small proposal to be considered for Haskell': I like it, but it should probably be a GHC proposal first. I don't think Haskell' is supposed to make any change to the standard that hasn't been already implemented and tested. In this

Re: Default module header `module Main where`

2017-05-19 Thread Mario Blažević
On 19/05/17 07:12 PM, Francesco Ariis wrote: On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 06:32:30PM -0400, Joachim Breitner wrote: I thought about this. But I fear that this will require a language extension or flag, and then the developers (quite rightly) say that it does not pull its weight of supporting both var

Re: Default module header `module Main where`

2017-05-24 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2017-05-24 10:28 AM, Joachim Breitner wrote: I've ended up uncertain, so I'll just throw it out there: are unused value warnings affected by this proposal? that is a very good point, thanks for raising it. I have two different answers: A) You are right. Everything is exported, so without an

Re: Whose gonna be at icfp?

2017-08-26 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2017-08-25 06:48 PM, Carter Schonwald wrote: I'll be this time! :) We should coord a committee catch-up at icfp. Also I would like to propose we shift back to email based discussion. There's still the valid and important need of then taking the discussion and revisions into a new standard.

Re: Shall the Haskell Report remain in LaTeX?

2017-10-30 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2017-09-09 09:40 AM, Herbert Valerio Riedel wrote: Long story short, is everyone ok to stay with (La)TeX, or is there some compelling reason that would justify migrating to a different documentation system? Since nobody said no in the 7 weeks since, I think it's safe to assume yes. Can we

Re: Shall the Haskell Report remain in LaTeX?

2017-10-31 Thread Mario Blažević
:39, Mario Blažević wrote: On 2017-09-09 09:40 AM, Herbert Valerio Riedel wrote: Long story short, is everyone ok to stay with (La)TeX, or is there some compelling reason that would justify migrating to a different documentation system? Since nobody said no in the 7 weeks since, I think it&#

Re: Place to report non-textual (markup) issues on the haskell report?

2018-03-25 Thread Mario Blažević
Related to this, whatever happened to the fully-agreed task of copying the Haskell report LaTeX files over to the RFCs repository? https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-prime/2017-September/004319.html https://mail.haskell.org/pipermail/haskell-prime/2017-October/thread.html https://mail.ha

Quo vadis?

2018-09-26 Thread Mario Blažević
I could not attend ICFP this year. Has there been any discussion at all of Haskell 2020 there? If so, can the rest of us get a summary? ___ Haskell-prime mailing list Haskell-prime@haskell.org http://mail.haskell.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haskell-

Re: Quo vadis?

2018-10-05 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2018-10-04 09:41 PM, Anthony Clayden wrote: > There was no Haskell 2020 meeting this year at ICFP. Sadly, interest seems to have waned here... Yes that is sad. So either Haskell 2020 won't happen, or it'll be only minor tweaks over H2010, as that was over H98. The former seems much more lik

Re: Quo vadis?

2018-10-05 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2018-10-05 09:10 AM, Henrik Nilsson wrote: Hi, On 10/05/2018 01:20 PM, Mario Blažević wrote: I hereby propose we formally disband the present Haskell 2020 committee. Our performance has been so dismal It has. And I should apologise in particular: I've just had far less time t

Re: Quo vadis?

2018-10-07 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2018-10-05 01:05 PM, Simon Peyton Jones wrote: I think the difficulty has always been in finding enough people who are * Well-informed and well-qualified * Willing to spend the time to standardise language features GHC does not help the situation: it's a de-facto standard, which reduces the

Re: Quo vadis?

2018-10-08 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2018-10-07 11:36 PM, Gershom B wrote: Mario: as a non-committee member but interested observer, if you yourself wanted to proceed to put the report in the repo, what obstacles would stand in your way, and could we clear them out so you could take charge of that task? My understanding is th

Re: Quo vadis?

2018-10-08 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2018-10-07 11:32 PM, Philippa Cowderoy wrote: I'd be remiss if I didn't suggest a candidate with a specific problem, a specific goal and a possible solution to its problem. So, a modest proposal: - Standardise OverloadedStrings as an available-but-disabled feature - Allow default statemen

Report merged, steps to follow

2018-11-04 Thread Mario Blažević
Four weeks having passed since the previous discussion with no objections, I have now merged the content of the Haskell Report from https://github.com/haskell/haskell-report into https://github.com/haskell/rfcs     To remind everybody again, the point of this move was to enable adding an act

LAST CALL to comment on the RelaxedPolyRec proposal

2018-11-04 Thread Mario Blažević
I hereby officially announce that the RFC for the relaxed dependency analysis (https://github.com/haskell/rfcs/pull/17) has attained the rarefied status of Last Call. Please take some time within the following two weeks to vote for or against the proposal, or just leave a comment to indicate yo

Re: LAST CALL to comment on the RelaxedPolyRec proposal

2018-11-18 Thread Mario Blažević
last-minute objection or amendment to the proposal. On 2018-11-04 8:31 p.m., Mario Blažević wrote: I hereby officially announce that the RFC for the relaxed dependency analysis (https://github.com/haskell/rfcs/pull/17) has attained the rarefied status of Last Call. Please take some time withi

The first proposal has been merged

2018-11-26 Thread Mario Blažević
    Break out the champagne, because the first Haskell 2020 proposal has been fully merged [1]. By fully merged, I mean that the text of the report has been updated, so we have accomplished something material. Should the Haskell 2020 commitee agree so, we now have the option to declare the Hask

Re: Helium II

2018-11-28 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2018-11-28 2:17 a.m., Jurriaan Hage wrote: Dear all, We’ve been active since September making the Helium compiler more Haskell 2010 compliant. In particular, we have a branch with support for Haskell 2010 type classes, a branch that supports import/export following the standard, and a branc

LAST CALL to comment on the Appicative/Monad Proposal

2018-12-15 Thread Mario Blažević
The very first RFC created (https://github.com/haskell/rfcs/pull/1), the Applicative/Monad Proposal, has now reached the Last Call stage. In order to ground the discussion, I have taken some time to update the Prelude and the text of the Haskell Report with its effects before the call. The rend

Re: LAST CALL to comment on the Applicative/Monad Proposal

2018-12-17 Thread Mario Blažević
While you're reviewing AMP, please take a bit of time to also comment on the related new MonadPlus excise proposal at https://github.com/haskell/rfcs/pull/23 The proposal is very short so it should be an easy decision. Thank you. On 2018-12-15 6:46 p.m., Mario Blažević wrote: The very

Re: LAST CALL to comment on the Applicative/Monad Proposal

2018-12-18 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2018-12-18 2:38 a.m., Herbert Valerio Riedel wrote: Hello Mario et al., On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:17 AM Mario Blažević wrote: While you're reviewing AMP, please take a bit of time to also comment on the related new MonadPlus excise proposal at https://github.com/haskell/rfcs/pull/23

Re: LAST CALL to comment on the Appicative/Monad Proposal

2018-12-18 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2018-12-18 7:25 p.m., Doug McIlroy wrote: I am very glad to see Applicative take its place in the report: one less mystery in understanding Haskell in the wild. The following comments pertain to presentation. Thank you for the comments. I will act on them if we end up accepting the proposal

Re: LAST CALL to comment on the Applicative/Monad Proposal

2019-01-16 Thread Mario Blažević
A month passed since the last call, and I'm sorry to say that the Applicative/Monad proposal has been rejected. Herbert has vetoed it on the grounds that it doesn't come packaged with MonadFail and MonadOfNoReturn proposals. This is very unfortunate because (I thought) there was finally a glim

Re: LAST CALL to comment on the Applicative/Monad Proposal

2019-01-16 Thread Mario Blažević
Jan 2019, 8:01 pm Mario Blažević <mailto:mblaze...@stilo.com> wrote: A month passed since the last call, and I'm sorry to say that the Applicative/Monad proposal has been rejected. Herbert has vetoed it on the grounds that it doesn't come packaged with MonadFail and

Re: LAST CALL to comment on the Applicative/Monad Proposal

2019-01-17 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2019-01-16 3:26 p.m., Philippa Cowderoy wrote: ... I'd like to thank you for your work - myself I'm infamously unable to get things done (to the point of unemployability), and I've stayed off the committee precisely because I can appreciate the effort involved. Apologies, for some reason

Re: Unabbreviation of Haskell's grammar tokens for readability

2019-04-08 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2019-04-06 10:36 p.m., Solomon Ucko wrote: In the Haskell 1998 & 2010 reports, I found the names of the tokens for Haskell's lexical structure / syntax / grammar very hard to read, as they were highly abbreviated. I might get more familiar with them, but that doesn't help newcomers, like me

Re: cert on prime expired?

2019-04-19 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2019-04-19 12:40 a.m., Gershom B wrote: I don’t really have a stake in what happens to it. In my opinion at the very least the domain should point somewhere where there’s a redirect in place to the old content, or some pointer to it, so links don’t die :-) I, for one, was looking up the o

Re: Proposal: Fix a "bug" in the layout interpretation algorithm in Section 10.3 of Report 2010

2019-04-29 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2019-04-29 3:54 a.m., 佐藤玄基 wrote: Hello, I found that the layout interpretation algorithm in Section 10.3 of Report 2010 produces parse-error when applied to the following code snippet: [Snippet 1 : The code that fails to be parsed by Report] main = print t where { t = s where s = 1 :: Int

Re: [Haskell-cafe] Haskell 2010 report nit?

2019-12-18 Thread Mario Blažević
On 2019-12-16 1:42 a.m., Viktor Dukhovni wrote: Not sure where to post about this, and it has likely been noted elsewhere already, but reading through the report I see in Section 3.17.2 I'm not sure either, but one place you could report it is at https://github.com/haskell/rfcs/issues No gu