[hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
There will be an optional Source Dedicated Server release in the next couple of hours. - Alfred ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
never understood the point of telling people that there will be a release of anything sometime in the future. Or of telling everyone when exactly it will be, either. Just causes unnecessary strain on the network. Just release, and say it's released. Rather than making everyone 'line up outside and

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
I send these emails at the request of the guys that run servers or server farms, so they can plan to have people ready to look after updating their servers once it is released. Note that this email is to the server list, about server updates, and the load caused by server updates on the system

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Steve Wright
Personally, I appreciate the advance notice... Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon I send

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
I know, I was talking about massive client releases that get announced way ahead of time. On 5/5/05, Steven Hartland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As its a dedicated optional release I doubt it will put the network under any strain. Steve / K -- Clayton Macleod

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Steven Hartland
Me too Steve / K - Original Message - From: Steve Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personally, I appreciate the advance notice... Steve This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
I know, just felt like ranting ;) Sorry. On-topic, don't people just use the auto-update command line switch? Although I suppose the current update in question would still require someone to kill the server, as opposed to required updates that get forced by the master servers. On 5/5/05, Alfred

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Hamish
What will this do? Hamish[DW] - Server Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.darkwatchclan.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:43 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com;

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread dexion
can you give use a link to what is updating? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon I send these emails

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Z Teknology G-Mail
Alfred Reynolds wrote: There will be an optional Source Dedicated Server release in the next couple of hours. - Alfred ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
the update itself as a whole is what is optional. Optional, as opposed to mandatory. Mandatory updates are forced, and are required for clients and servers to connect with each other. Optional updates, I presume, only contain changes that do not also require changes on the client. On 5/5/05, Z

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
for server releases, sure, but for client releases, why? Guarantee you that client releases would go much smoother for everyone if they *never* announced them. On 5/5/05, Steve Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I appreciate the advance notice... Steve -- Clayton Macleod

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread m0gely
Clayton Macleod wrote: never understood the point of telling people that there will be a release of anything sometime in the future. Or of telling everyone when exactly it will be, either. That's because you'r not the intended recipient. There are people on this list who work at GSP's (and

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
you don't know me, or where I work, thanks. Mind explaining how ensuring that pretty much every steam client in the world trying to update at exactly the same time does NOT put more strain on the network than if the client updates were unannounced and everybody were just randomly getting updated

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Darren Mason
Dedicated SERVER release moron. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clayton Macleod Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:23 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon you don't know me, or where I

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
hahaha, my comment was aimed at their releases in general, genius. On 5/5/05, Darren Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dedicated SERVER release moron. -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread m0gely
Clayton Macleod wrote: for server releases, sure /m0gely reaches for a clue stick. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread m0gely
Clayton Macleod wrote: you don't know me, or where I work, thanks. I don't and don't care to know. I was merely stating that there are valid reasons why this information is helpful. Mind explaining how ensuring that pretty much every steam client in the world trying to update at exactly the same

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
No, you were merely assuming things about me because I had a different view than you. And if you had actually read what I said you would know what I actually have a 'problem' with. On 5/5/05, m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clayton Macleod wrote: I don't and don't care to know. I was merely

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
Yeah, *I* am the one that needs a clue stick. Like I said, go READ what I actually said. Heh. Lemme guess, you're American? On 5/5/05, m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /m0gely reaches for a clue stick. -- - m0gely -- Clayton Macleod ___ To

[hlds] Source Dedicated Server update released

2005-05-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
We have released an update to the Source Dedicated Server. Run the hldsupdatetool to get this update. This update includes several new features and fixes for SourceTV and also fixes a content server selection bug. More details can be found here:

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Oompa
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Come on guys. Try to be mature enough to not start a flame war a freaking mailing list. All he did was tell us that there will be a server update. Don't like it? Then unsubscribe. On 5/5/05, Clayton Macleod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread trickyb
totally thanks for the heads-up roll on vac2 or was this part of it? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread dISCOSTAR*
Thank's for the news alfred! Let's be friends everyone :) -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Come on guys. Try to be mature enough to not start a flame war a freaking mailing list. All he did was tell us that there will be a server update. Don't like it? Then unsubscribe. On

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] What is in this Optional Update or is that what the previous e-mail that I received before this one is about? On 5/6/05, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There will be an optional Source Dedicated Server release in the next couple of

RE: [hlds] STEAM Server Filters Broken?

2005-05-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
I cannot reproduce this problem. Can you provide more details, like exactly what filter settings you have and also make sure you don't have a firewall blocking the server browser traffic (the steam.exe file changed with todays update and may have triggered your firewalls blocking logic). - Alfred

Re: [hlds] STEAM Server Filters Broken?

2005-05-05 Thread kraquen
This happens to me in dod.. Sometimes I'll start typing in a map name to filter by ie dod_anzio as soon as i type in the a for anzio, no servers show up any more.. even if i refresh with the filter on.. but as soon as i backspace out the 'a' all the servers come back. Alfred Reynolds wrote: I

Re: [hlds] STEAM Server Filters Broken?

2005-05-05 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Alfred If I do a full refresh with no filters set, I get 28,000 odd servers in the STEAM Internet Server List. In trying to reproduce this problem: I change the filter to region (Australia), hit quick refresh, I still get 28,000 odd STEAM

RE: [hlds] STEAM Server Filters Broken?

2005-05-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
snip In trying to reproduce this problem: I change the filter to region (Australia), hit quick refresh, I still get 28,000 odd STEAM Internet Server List http://whisper.ausgamers.com/pictures/ServerList1.png This is expected, Quick Refresh pings the list of servers you have already

RE: [hlds] STEAM Server Filters Broken?

2005-05-05 Thread Alfred Reynolds
The map name is dod_anzio, NOT anzio. There are no DoD servers running a map starting with a that I can see right now. - Alfred -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kraquen Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:31 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com

Re: [hlds] STEAM Server Filters Broken?

2005-05-05 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I forgot to add, that as soon as you change a GameType filter, you cannot even use the Quick Refresh Option, you must use Refresh All On 5/6/05, Whisper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Alfred If I do a full refresh with no filters set, I get

Re: [hlds] STEAM Server Filters Broken?

2005-05-05 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Seems to work So small issue, with the scroll bar not scrolling up or something Thanks On 5/6/05, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip In trying to reproduce this problem: I change the filter to region (Australia), hit

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Steve Tilson
What is your issue fool. Dissing Americans now? What are you? some euro trash that has had to have their butts rescued by the USA? Do us a favor and discontinue use of any products and software made in the USA. That will take care of your useless posts on American information systems. Clayton

Re: [hlds] STEAM Server Filters Broken?

2005-05-05 Thread kraquen
well maybe i didn't make myself clear.. i know the map name is anzio.. the filter updates after every keystroke, and does partial matches.. so if you type dod_a you should get all dod_anzios and all dod_avalanches etc.. as soon as i type in the 'a' in anzio i get 0 servers that means dod_a not

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Steve Tilson
And by now your useless ranting has caused more net bandwidth to be wasted than the entire update will incur. Next time write youe message and delete before sending. You will feel better and will not waste anyone's time. ;-) Clayton Macleod wrote: No useful content

[hlds] Re: VAC2 and such

2005-05-05 Thread Rafael Lopez
I'll ask this nice and simply: Alfred, do you have any idea of when we can expect to secure our servers? Not rushing you, I'm just curious if there is any date [range] you could give us. Thanks, Rafael ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences,

Re: [hlds] Re: VAC2 and such

2005-05-05 Thread Oompa
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] When it's done. :P On 5/5/05, Rafael Lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll ask this nice and simply: Alfred, do you have any idea of when we can expect to secure our servers? Not rushing you, I'm just curious if there is any date [range] you

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Ned Haskin
What you never understood is that, dedicated servers don't run under steam, and there for require manual updates using the hldsupdatetool.exe, while the server is not running. Clayton Macleod wrote: never understood the point of telling people that there will be a release of anything sometime in

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Oompa
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thank you Steve Tilson. On 5/5/05, Steve Tilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is your issue fool. Dissing Americans now? What are you? some euro trash that has had to have their butts rescued by the USA? Do us a favor and discontinue use of

[hlds] Re: hlds digest, Vol 1 #3618 - 14 msgs

2005-05-05 Thread devin812
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 2:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon I send these emails at the request of the guys that run servers

[hlds] New bug on today's update

2005-05-05 Thread Z Teknology G-Mail
Alfred, in today's new update there is a new bug. Ingame doesn't work right off the bat. You have to hit ESC go into Options and hit apply, then it works...a quick fix for this would be appreciated as it is quite annoying. Thanks in advance Zack ___

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
you couldn't be more wrong. Of course they run under steam. And if you have your startup command-line written properly, the server will automatically update to the latest code just by going 'rcon quit' and nothing else. Mandatory updates don't even require any user intervention, providing people

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Mikee
It has been the case that Windows servers that a number of major server networks use (Rcon Gamer, Art of War, etc.) have not been given the -autoupdate feature by Valve that Linux servers haveso both of you are right or wrong depending on how you look at it. Windows servers have to be manually

Re: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread Clayton Macleod
ah yes, sorry, I always forget about windows servers. (Mostly because I don't know why anybody would want to host on windows.) On 5/5/05, Mikee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been the case that Windows servers that a number of major server networks use (Rcon Gamer, Art of War, etc.) have not

RE: [hlds] Source Dedicated Server release soon

2005-05-05 Thread dexion
mike, I own a game server co, and have a script that allows others to update their servers (windows). It is not a pain, nor an inconvenience. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mikee Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 1:25 AM To: