: Monday, June 1, 2009 2:33:03 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?
Anyone want to guess my opinion on the matter?
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:07 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote:
This.
I imagine the purpose of the VAC system is to stop cheats that give an
unfair advantage. Idling
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?
Anyone want to guess my opinion on the matter?
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:07 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote:
This.
I imagine the purpose of the VAC system is to stop cheats that give an
unfair advantage. Idling in a server
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 2:33:03 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?
Anyone want to guess my opinion on the matter?
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:07 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote:
This.
I imagine the purpose of the VAC system is to stop cheats that give
here for the band!
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?
The phrase is couldn't care less
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The phrase is couldn't care less. Please refer to this chart:
http://www.msleeper.com/files/caring.png
What the hell are you people going on about a honeypot
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?
The phrase is couldn't care less. Please refer to this chart:
http://www.msleeper.com/files/caring.png
What the hell are you people going on about a honeypot. That doesn't
even make sense, I don't think
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?
and to think I used to really dislike that msleeper dude :)
Now I can't seem to ever disagree with him.
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This.
I imagine the purpose of the VAC system is to stop cheats that give an
unfair advantage. Idling in a server, be it by minimised official client
or third-party client is no different. It's still idling. Not to mention
the fact that even if VALVe wanted to design the system to block/ban
No, that's not my logic, that's some flawed bullshit you made up.
By the way, the kid is making it up, he did cheat.
http://www.gamerzplanet.net/forums/battlefield-heroes/320239-simple-bf-h-aimbot-3.html#post1982686
Same nick name, registered the same month that he got banned and he
admit what
Honeypot?
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On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote:
Anyone want to guess my opinion on the matter?
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:07 +0800, Shane Arnold wrote:
This.
I imagine
What are you talking about? I'm refering to the VAC for people who cheat
the system.
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:35 -0400, Neil Voutt wrote:
Honeypot?
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On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:33 PM, msleeper
Lollypop?
On 6/1/09, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote:
What are you talking about? I'm refering to the VAC for people who cheat
the system.
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 15:35 -0400, Neil Voutt wrote:
Honeypot?
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Maybe someone could make a sourcemod plugin that bans people for standing
still. They could have been idling.
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote:
Lollypop?
On 6/1/09, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote:
What are you talking about? I'm refering to the VAC
Hello, I have been hearing a rumour that some people are getting vac banned
for using an Idle program at source op. Any one hear of this or know for
sure this program will get you Vac'd?
Thanks
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That is one reason why i never touched that program, i didnt want to take
any chances..
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On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Clyde cide thedrunkenbraw...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello, I have been hearing a
you are not cheating, no ban
2009/5/31 Neil Voutt mr.neosty...@gmail.com
That is one reason why i never touched that program, i didnt want to take
any chances..
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On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 4:51 PM,
If you want to track this rumor, its from one person stating they couldn't
connect to the vac servers a few nights ago (which happened to us all), and
then one person here:
http://www.gotfrag.com/tf2/forums/thread/400307/?cpage=1#comment_9221007-claiming
to have been vac banned for it. If only
Technically you are cheating. The program is using the Steam API to
say you're in game when you're not. Sounds like cheating to me :)
On 5/31/09, Nightbox alexandrualexa...@gmail.com wrote:
you are not cheating, no ban
2009/5/31 Neil Voutt mr.neosty...@gmail.com
That is one reason why i
I would have thought it unlikely that you will get vac banned. However, if
valve decide to strip items for using this program, it is no different to
just running a server and sitting idle in it. Would they strip items for
anyone playing on an achievement-idle server? or would they strip items for
Valve: feel free to block the program, but please PLEASE after the weapon
drop probabilities are geared towards playing well.. similar to the crit
calculation!!
@ cc2iscool: is this program any different to sitting idle in a server? then
sitting in an idle server is cheating... if so, how are you
there is a difference. one you are actually running tf2. another your
just running a outside application to emulate running the game.
really this thread should just be stopped since its just going to turn
into a flame war and the end results will be the people that use it wont
think its
It mimic's idling in a server without actually launching tf2. in a command
line type interface. it connects to a master (fake) server which has 10,000
slots. this server can only be connected by the idling client program.
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I am neutral to the matter, I am merely curious to see where valve's stance
will be on this program if they take a stance at all.
regards,
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On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:38 PM, SakeFox sake...@kingdomsend.com wrote:
Seeing as it mimics idling in a server even though you're not idling in a
server it could be considered a cheat.
You're not actually running a game. You're using a program to emulate the
game's function of connecting to a server. As far as I'm concerned that
seems like cheating to me. It's like
I agree
Kenny Loggins
ClanAO.com
On May 31, 2009, at 4:38 PM, SakeFox sake...@kingdomsend.com wrote:
there is a difference. one you are actually running tf2. another your
just running a outside application to emulate running the game.
really this thread should just be stopped since its just
then maybe you should also ban all the people who use steam achievement
manager...
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Its an interesting debate, although Valve did not Vac Ban the weapon
unlocker they just removed the weapons, so I am on the fence wether or not
they would Vac on this one. my gut says they wouldnt and the kid in that
post got picked off for another cheat, perhaps one they didnt know about.
I.E. a
In the end the only difference between idling in your app or idling in
TF2 is RAM, CPU and if not minimized, GPU used. It's no more cheating
than running TF2 in DX8 mode to get better performance.
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote:
Seeing as it mimics idling
Difference is you're not using the program that it was intended to be used
in. Thus cheating.
Why is it so hard to understand?
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On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.comwrote:
In the end the only difference
I really shouldn't be starting in on this since I really want this
thread to die, but by your logic using a application to let me see
through walls to improve my performance is no difference then using
custom materials that let me see through wall for better performance.
Donnie Newlove wrote:
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Clyde cide
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:52 PM
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Subject: [hlds] Vac Ban for Idle program @ Source Op?
Hello, I have been hearing a rumour that some people are getting vac banned
for using
Also, this isn't really relevant to running servers, so please let's not
discuss it on this list.
I agree, howev er this is the only place to get serious info even on this.
Steam forums as a general rule... well umm there is no real value there.
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many people use that achievement unlocker in slow fashion and even quick
fashion and dont have their weapons removed so yea. As to someone mentioning
tf2 using gpu, if you run the game minimized gpu is not used at all and runs
idle the only drawback of running tf2 minimized vs not at all is memory
People use steam forums for information?
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It's not cheating the game, it's cheating the system.
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It's not really any different than running TF2 in an idling server and
minimizing the window, I wouldn't say it's very honest but I wouldn't
really classify it as a cheat.
And VACs main purpose is protecting the game process, I don't think you
could get VAC banned from just manipulating the
it's amazing how many people think achievents and unlocks are such serious
business. ROAR BAN ALL THE IDLERS, ROAR BAN ALL THE FAKE IDLE SERVER CLIENTS
what skin is it off your nose?
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 9:39 PM, tgnwells tgnwe...@gmail.com wrote:
It's not really any different than running
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