Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Lionel Laské
Sorry to say that I don't add my vote to the motions: I move that the SugarLabs Oversight Board approve the position of Translation-Community Manager as described at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation-Community_Manager. -1 I further move that Chris Leonard be named to this position

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Sean DALY
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Adam Holt wrote: > Thanks Lionel for taking time to vote your conscience even despite others > of us who believe we have a legal/fiduciary obligation to our biggest > investor (Trip Advisor) and a moral duty to the world's most disconnected >

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Adam Holt
On Apr 6, 2016 3:57 PM, "Lionel Laské" wrote: > > > Sorry to say that I don't add my vote to the motions: > > I move that the SugarLabs Oversight Board approve the position of Translation-Community Manager as described at

Re: [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, James My apologies. I am new to this and have made a lot of mistakes. However, I don't believe it is fair to accuse me of 'hiding' anything. As you know following my first meeting in February, I posted a conglomeration of the ideas thrown out as to the position

[IAEP] Vote on Translation-Community Manager motions

2016-04-06 Thread Tony Anderson
I move that the SugarLabs Oversight Board approve the position of Translation-Community Manager as described at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation-Community_Manager. +1 I further move that Chris Leonard be named to this position effective immediately. +1 I further move that the

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Lionel! On 6 April 2016 at 15:56, Lionel Laské wrote: > I'm just considering that the limited resources of SugarLabs should be > dedicated in priority to increase the community and I'm not convinced at > all that translation is the better way. At least the ratio cost

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Laura Vargas
Hi Tony, I might not have been clear. I'm talking about giving a chance to the community members to apply for the "job". I can tell many members of the board already have a candidate in mind, still, in my humble opinion, an opportunity should be given to all community members to apply. Cheers,

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Chris Leonard
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Adam Holt wrote: >> >> Thanks Lionel for taking time to vote your conscience even despite others >> of us who believe we have a legal/fiduciary obligation to our biggest >>

Re: [IAEP] International Society for Technology in Education 2016 Conference and Expo?

2016-04-06 Thread Laura Vargas
+1 Walter It would be great to define a place (in the wiki?) and maybe a procedure for Deployments to share their valuable Sugar-XO worldwide deployments experience and research :D The future of Sugar Labs Community is deeply attached to the future of Educational Systems, specially in those

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Laura The simplest answer is that is a part of the job of the TCM not the Board. Tony On 04/06/2016 11:39 PM, Laura Vargas wrote: Tony, What would be in place to explain, is why atfer the creation of the position (first motion) SLOBs are not openly requiring proposals from all

Re: [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Tony Anderson
HI, Sebastian The problem is mine. I should have locked the page at the time the motions were made. The issue is simply procedural, the motion was to approve the job as described on the page. Like Clinton, using a wiki page was a convenience to avoid having to copy it in the motion. Tony

Re: [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Tony Anderson
My point is that the motion was based on the wording of the document at the time it was made. Amendments after the motion is made are really out of order. Luckily, the Wiki technology lets readers see the document as it was at the time of the motion. Naturally, the intent is that the TCM will

Re: [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread James Cameron
I'm not sure the translation team wants to be led in that way, and I'd not like to lose volunteers. We have so few. The hiding of SLOBs deliberations once they move to their private mailing list caused this situation; Wiki technology is a bad match for decision making bodies unless clear

Re: [IAEP] FW: Commenting on Treasurer Motions Enabled!

2016-04-06 Thread Sean DALY
On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > I agree that it would be awesome if someone holding the Treasurer office > was also actively fund raising for the project! > Fundraising requires a clear vision & roadmap - positioning, technical - and the associated

Re: [IAEP] FW: Commenting on Treasurer Motions Enabled!

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 04:58, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> I agree that it would be awesome if someone holding the Treasurer office >> was also actively fund raising for the project! >> > > > Fundraising requires

Re: [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Sean DALY
as a former SLOB, I could say that in the past this was because some matters involving OLPC, or embargoed press information, or a partnership with a third party, required confidentiality. Perhaps today's SLOBs have a different point of view Sean On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Dave Crossland

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > as a former SLOB, I could say that in the past this was because some > matters involving OLPC, or embargoed press information, or a partnership > with a third party, required confidentiality. > > Perhaps today's SLOBs have a

Re: [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Walter Bender
+1 from me for all three motions (based on the 5 April version of the document). -walter On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 5:32 AM, Tony Anderson wrote: > I submitted motions to the Board as follows: > > I move that the SugarLabs Oversight Board approve the position of >

Re: [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 03:25, James Cameron wrote: > The hiding of SLOBs deliberations once they move to their private > mailing list > Why is the SLOB list private? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread James Cameron
I take it to mean that you intend that the translation team be eclipsed by the translation community manager? That's unfortunate. On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 01:38:46PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: > The formal motion was sent at 5pm April 5, 2016. It was seconded at 7:25pm > April 5, 2016 (both

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Sebastian Silva
I would've expected the Ombudsman to also be subscribed. El 06/04/16 a las 09:02, Adam Holt escribió: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Walter Bender > wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Sean DALY

Re: [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 06/04/16 a las 07:45, Dave Crossland escribió: > > On 6 April 2016 at 03:25, James Cameron > wrote: > > The hiding of SLOBs deliberations once they move to their private > mailing list > > > Why is the SLOB list private? > There is actually

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > On 6 April 2016 at 09:42, Walter Bender wrote: > >> the traffic on the list is close to nil > > > Does the traffic include deliberation of motions? :) > Never intentionally. When it does happen,

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Adam Holt
On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > >> as a former SLOB, I could say that in the past this was because some >> matters involving OLPC, or embargoed press information, or a

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 09:42, Walter Bender wrote: > the traffic on the list is close to nil Does the traffic include deliberation of motions? :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Sebastian Silva
El 06/04/16 a las 00:38, Tony Anderson escribió: > The formal motion was sent at 5pm April 5, 2016. It was seconded at > 7:25pm April 5, 2016 (both times EST). Any changes to the TCM job > description made after the formal motion was submitted and seconded > should not be considered in votes on

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Adam Holt
Congratulations Chris Leonard, Tony Anderson & All for making this happen: unleashing translation community+infra+results along a road that will have its bumps for a reason -- so remote kids who have NO opportunities for education beyond their mother tongue can at last be taken seriously. Final

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 10:44, Walter Bender wrote: > Does the traffic include deliberation of motions? :) >> > > Never intentionally. When it does happen, we try to catch the mistake, > such as Adam reminding Tony to circulate his motion publicly, > I think this is all

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Laura Vargas
Tony, What would be in place to explain, is why atfer the creation of the position (first motion) SLOBs are not openly requiring proposals from all community members and /or any interested party that might be adequate or experienced to execute the required functions. In my opinion public email