Clark Morris wrote:
I find not having an email address for contact to be a
turn-off.
Me too, but I imagine it's done for the same reason IBM-MAIN chooses to
hide e-mail addresses when viewed from the Web: as an anti-spam measure.
Such is the world we live in. :-(
3. What is the Integrated
Sorting by received (your time) instead of sent (RIM time) could
help, or just remember Ted's on RIM time :0
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:00 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Hi All,
I am trying to overcome a FS 93(exclusive control lock) error in a cobol
program using IAM files. (I am told that IAM file is functionally similar
to VSAM.)
Now, we issue a CLOSE and OPEN on the file to release the lock. But it is
a huge perfomance overhead as this file is being used
Hi
Maybe it is not the best method, but:
We have a long running server,it weaks up time to time in very 0.01 sec,
even it has nothing to do.
Some of our customers has complaind about the CPU consumption, and we would
like to check it, an empty machine what is the CPU usage of the server
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 04:45:27 -0500 Anuradha V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:I am trying to overcome a FS 93(exclusive control lock) error in a cobol
:program using IAM files. (I am told that IAM file is functionally similar
:to VSAM.)
:Now, we issue a CLOSE and OPEN on the file to release the
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 04/16/2006
at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Are you drunk,
That's it!
When you cannot tackle the argument, tackle the arguer.
Humor is such a subtle thing! Youi failed to note that you had just
done the same thing to me.
That is one of the most
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 04/16/2006
at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
You deliberately chopped my message to make it look like an error.
You're lying.
Name one OS that does not allow you to display the contents of a
file to your screen,
Why? I didn't say that there was such
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/14/2006
at 02:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I should be able to grab a window handle with the mouse pointer and
stretch or squeeze or reproportion the window at will. When I do so
the terminal (emulator) should present an interrupt to the mainframe
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/14/2006
at 10:13 AM, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
http://shareew.prod.web.sba.com/client_files/callpapers/attach/SHARE_in_Seattle/S2817EJ095515.pdf
Well, my first comments is that I have found running with a 43x80
primary and a 27x132 secondary to be highly
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/13/2006
at 06:46 AM, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Load modules contain pretty much the same information as object
modules, optimized for quick loading into memory rather than
optimized for the 1968 link editor g.
The format of the object module was
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/14/2006
at 02:27 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
OK. An ISPF replacement that converses in HTML, so I could use any
browser on any platform to handle the presentation.
Please, not HTML! A revived and cleaned up WSA would be much better.
--
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
04/14/2006
at 12:09 AM, Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Can I get some suggestion about wich manual I should
resort to for the usage of 'binder' ?
Search for program management.
--
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ISO position; see
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
04/13/2006
at 04:46 PM, Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Because I remember some books(for example,Murach's os/390 and z/os
JCL) say that LKED.SYSLIB should contain 'object module' ,not 'load
module'.
I don't remember a time when that was true, certainly not today.
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/13/2006
at 06:08 PM, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Doesn't one of the utilities use the linkage editor, under the
covers, in order to copy load modules because it's just so good at
it?
No, but IEBCOPY uses the BINDER to convert between load module and
program
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said:
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:57:56 -0300
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/14/2006
at 02:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin [log in to unmask] said:
I should be able to grab a window handle with the mouse pointer and
stretch or squeeze or
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said:
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:08:47 -0300
OK. An ISPF replacement that converses in HTML, so I could use any
browser on any platform to handle the presentation.
Please, not HTML! A revived and cleaned up WSA would be much better.
To start:
1. The original concept requires doing an ENDREQ against the ACB being
used by the COBOL program holding the lock. It will not help to open a
new ACB and do an ENDREQ against it.
2. The subroutine does not set R13 to its save area (DEBUGMAC overlays
the R13 pointed area). Etc.
1.
Hi,
I have used and recommended Seagull FreeFTP for a while but just
starting using a neat little feature that was starring me in the face.
Powerkeys! I finally customized the powerkeys at the bottom of the
screen to be
FB80
SITE UNIT=SYSDA PRIMARY=5000 SECONDARY=300 VOL=G3 LRECL=80
You might want to revisit the site.
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Maybe it is not the best method, but:
We have a long running server,it weaks up time to time in very 0.01
sec, even it has nothing to do. Some of our customers has complaind
about the CPU consumption, and we would like to check it, an empty
machine what is the CPU usage of the server if it
You might want to revisit the site.
Gee, in the US information about the z8 is only available under
non-disclosure.
Bob Shannon
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The configuration we are using is Couple Datasets, no coupling facility,
hence DASD only. The CTC's are SCTC's. We have gone over the CTC
definitions and are about to again. The CHP's used are all from the
original sysplex definition. New controllers and devices were added for the
new LPAR.
On 4/17/2006 7:59 AM, nicandal wrote:
Hi. I'm looking to consolidate 2 RACF databases. ANyone got any stories
to share? What are the pitfalls? What tools did you use to simplify
this?
First, do NOT use IRRUT400. It can split one database into multiple
pieces, or it can recombine a split
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said:
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:21:19 -0300
is true is that SYSLIB should not contain a concatenation of object
and load libraries.
By experiment, this appears to be a restriction of the Linkage
Editor, but not of the Binder. z/OS 1.5.
PPain wrote:
You might want to revisit the site.
BShannon wrote:
Gee, in the US information about the z8 is only available under
non-disclosure.
Bob Shannon
Now now Bob, don't be teasing the animals ...
[;)]
Dave Cole
If the CHPIDs are shared, except for CTC CUs and Devices, why add new
CUs and Devices? Via the HCD panels you should be able to get by with
the following: Define, modify, or view configuration data, Processors,
Work with partitions, Add, Enter Partition name, etc. and Update CHPID
Access and
We have a started task that runs and will cancel jobs after so many
minutes of elapsed run time. It can be customized by job class. I'll
e-mail it to in a few minutes.
Dennis
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Miklos
Gee, in the US information about the z8 is only available under
non-disclosure.
IBM's asshole lawyer made damn sure I wasn't even offered one. But it makes no
difference to
how I work - I've never used illegally obtained information.
But he'd know that, wouldn't he?
If he'd ever bothered
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/16/2006
at 12:21 PM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Two people (pods now?) have gone to the dark side.
In today's market, who can blame them. I'd certainly apply if they had
a suitable vacancy.
At least they didn't go to work for M$.
Indeed; with all it's
Paul Gilmartin writes:
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said:
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 13:21:19 -0300
is true is that SYSLIB should not contain a concatenation of object
and load libraries.
By experiment, this appears to be a restriction of the Linkage
Editor,
Let's remember that it's not usually our technologist colleagues who are
the dark side of the force in any of these organizations - usually all
they (we) want to do is write good code that works, and maybe impresses
our peers to they point that it pays to do it. The dark parts tend to
exist
All this speculation about Chris's apostacy is at best premature. Hed's
entitled, minimally, to a honeymoon. Let's adjourn this thread for a year,
giving him time to achieve something at CA.
John Gilmore
Ashland, MA 01721-1817
USA
Joel C. Ewing wrote:
My impression of the PC clock is that it was never intended for any
purpose other than maintaining wall clock time, and as such has
appropriately low resolution. My other impression is that there is some
Operating system involvement in maintaining its value on the PC:
Chris,
It seems to me that you are confusing the Apache HTTP server with Websphere.
The first thing you end up wanting to do is make all of the z/OS files
(including non-UNIX files) accessible to the server - which requires you
to dink with security so the actions are done with the user's
Getting out of the zSeries analysis biz or just pushing it onto the back
burner?
The IBM mainframe stuff has moved here
Search Engine Relationship Management
Best Regards,
Sam Knutson, GEICO
Performance and Availability Management
In a message dated 4/17/2006 9:56:22 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now now Bob, don't be teasing the animals .
Too good to pass up
_http://www.uga.edu/~srel/ecoview1-29-06.htm_
(http://www.uga.edu/~srel/ecoview1-29-06.htm)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/16/2006
at 09:05 PM, Clark Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I thought that the SS-80/90 series were S360 derivatives and that the
dead ending of those showed Univacs ongoing ability to shoot itself
in the foot.
No, the SS-80 and SS-90 came out well before the S/360
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/16/2006
at 09:05 PM, Clark Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I thought that the SS-80/90 series were S360 derivatives and that the
dead ending of those showed Univacs ongoing ability to shoot itself
in the foot.
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/17/2006
at 12:19 AM, Joel C. Ewing [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On the original S/360 introduced in 1964, I believe a System Timer,
which also required periodic interrupt servicing, was used to track
clock time and it had similar drift problems.
The interval timer
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/17/2006
at 08:41 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
By experiment, this appears to be a restriction of the Linkage
Editor, but not of the Binder. z/OS 1.5.
Thanks.
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ISO position; see
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/17/2006
at 07:11 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Consider availability of viewers. Who's going to provide a viewer
for WSA for Linux on PowerPC?
If there isn't already a WSA for Linux, how hard would it be for IBM
to port the one on Unix?
HTML viewers
Just to clarify something,
Incase any one ever finds them selfs in this situation.
In the USA a patent can never be removed after application.
Once applyed for the patent is present forever.
A patent can be
application abandoned
overturned
expired
rejected
transfered
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/17/2006 9:56:22 A.M. Central Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now now Bob, don't be teasing the animals .
Too good to pass up
Good story, Ed.
Thanks!
Dave
At 4/17/2006 12:32 PM, EFinnell wrote:
In a message dated 4/17/2006 9:56:22 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now now Bob, don't be teasing the animals .
Too good to pass up
http://www.uga.edu/~srel/ecoview1-29-06.htm
John,
It works just fine. you have to know to remove extraneous characters such as
brackets and underscores which get carried over when you copy and paste.
In order to try and avoid this in the URLs I post, I put them on a separate
line or insert them in brackets with a space either side. There
In a message dated 4/17/2006 11:48:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The page cannot be displayed
There is a problem with the page you are trying to reach and it cannot
be displayed.
Just chop the http: thru .htm in browser window and it pops up.
Been fighting
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
If there isn't already a WSA for Linux, how hard would it be for IBM
to port the one on Unix?
IIRC, there used to be clients for AIX and HP-UX. Now I only see mention
of OS/2 and Windows in the docs.
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Phoenix Software International, Inc
Ulrich
Thanks for your help. I will contact the BMC for this abend code in IPL when
start of product.
Regards
Jorge Arueira Campos
CAIXA ECONOMICA FEDERAL - OSASCO - SP - BRAZIL
On 4/14/06, Ulrich Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jorge,
I recommend you read the installation and
It seems to me that you are confusing the Apache HTTP server with
Websphere.
Not at all. I am speaking specifically about the Apache HTTP server.
Been there done that, got the scars.
CC
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:16:11 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
The 650 also had a 10 digit word in biquinary as its basic unit.
FSVO. The 650 used 7 bits to represent a digit, ...
In particular, 1-out-of-2 plus 1-out-of-five. At least that's what it
was
But the vast majority of IBM references are by other applicants to IBM
publications and to non-IBM publications that happen to have IBM in the title.
The vast majority of bathroom references are in the explanatory sections in
phrases like ...the system is idle when the trader is away from
Sorry about my previous premature posting. The Quote and Send buttons
on the new web interface are too close together for my poor aim.
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:10:46 -0500, Joel C. Ewing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
I have noticed that the replies are often out of order on this
list. ...
We have a started task that runs and will cancel jobs after so many minutes of
elapsed run time.
I still don't understand why!
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In a recent note, john gilmore said:
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:53:45 +
By experiment, this appears to be a restriction of the Linkage
Editor, but not of the Binder. z/OS 1.5.
The operative distinction and restriction are not between object modules and
load modules (or
I had the CSF task working on our z800. However, when we upgraded to a
z890, we did not get any sort of coprocessor card(s) because they cost
extra and we didn't perceive any need. So my first question is, can I
run CSF (on z/OS 1.6) without a coprocessor. If so, can anybody point me
to a cook
Edward Jaffe wrote:
I'm hoping those of you interested in extending the 3270 protocol, and
have not yet done so, will request the ANCAS24 usermod from TSO/E
level 2 as soon as possible. Even if you're unable to exploit the new
function right away, the request sends the right message as to
McKown, John wrote:
I had the CSF task working on our z800. However, when we upgraded to a
z890, we did not get any sort of coprocessor card(s) because they cost
extra and we didn't perceive any need. So my first question is, can I
run CSF (on z/OS 1.6) without a coprocessor. If so, can anybody
Hello all, I have a question about keys that I could not find a good
answer for. If you initialize your PKS and CKS using the pass phrase
method. Do you still have to set up master keys in order to generate
importer/exporter keys?
Thanks in advance
Getting out of the zSeries analysis biz or just pushing it onto the back
burner?
Probably getting out of it eventually. My fellow webmasters would recoil in
shock if I
suggested there was something more difficult to deal with than Google - but
IBM's lawyers take
the biscuit for
Phil Payne wrote:
Getting out of the zSeries analysis biz or just pushing it onto the back burner?
There are now no other vendors interested in what IBM is going to do next with
its mainframes.
I haven't had a serious study question from another vendor for a year or more.
As a
Edward Jaffe wrote:
Phil Payne wrote:
Getting out of the zSeries analysis biz or just pushing it onto the
back burner?
There are now no other vendors interested in what IBM is going to do
next with its mainframes.
I haven't had a serious study question from another vendor for a year
or
And the MIPS tables have been pissing me off for some time. Modern workloads
are so complex
these numbers really are pretty useless.
More than.
I cannot tell everything I know, but:
1. They didn't test much of the big stuff. Rather, they produced a straight
line from 17+ (z/990) and 21+ (z9)
In a message dated 4/17/2006 5:37:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It was bad enough when we had to manage billing table for ISV's!
Now, depending on the age of the box, we now have multiple tables for IBM.
No wonder mainframe cost management is giving the plaform
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:57:49 +0200, Phil Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RESEARCH.FREESERVE.CO.UK wrote:
You might want to revisit the site.
--
Which site ??? About the z900 withdrawal letter or something about the
z8 ???
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:00:12 -0500, Dave Kopischke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:57:49 +0200, Phil Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RESEARCH.FREESERVE.CO.UK wrote:
You might want to revisit the site.
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Which site ??? About the z900 withdrawal letter or something about the
z8 ???
what is the MIPS or MSUs of the particular models ???
MIPS are whatever you want them to be!
I wrote an article, admittedly for an IBM publication, and it was only 900
words, so I only scratched the surface.
But, MIPS are:
Workload Dependent
Processor option dependent
Micro-code patch level
On Apr 17, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Tim Hare wrote:
--SNIP--
Plus, having well-known and respected colleagues infiltrate means
things
should get better.
That will not work with CA they are wedded to evil. Its like trying
to get the
In a recent note, Chris Mason said:
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:54:47 +0200
In order to try and avoid this in the URLs I post, I put them on a separate
line or insert them in brackets with a space either side. There may be a
better way, of course.
There is a convention followed by
Edward Jaffe wrote:
Maybe it's just you.
I know you would just love that to be true for some vicarious, bizzare reason
of your own that
I've never been able to fathom, but it isn't. How many analysts are still
active in the
mainframe world? Seen Cheryl lately?
According to a presentation
On 15 Apr 2006 17:57:39 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craddock, Chris) wrote:
IMO, IBM still doesn't get it
Nobody wants a new IBM Http Server, Powered by Apache.
As far as I can tell, this just means that Apache is somewhere inside,
wrapped in an IBM OCO lock-box, so
At 16:55 +0200 on 04/13/2006, Chris Mason wrote about Re: What's the
linkage editor really wants?:
One card type you won't find mentioned in the Assembler listing is RLD.
RLDs can appear in the Assembly listing (after the source listing and
only if you ask for it in your parms). If I
Robert,
Quite right - total rubbish - I meant to say REP, of course, as can be seen
from the context - and the fact that I specifically said that RLD
corresponds to what can be found in the Assembler listing in the previous
paragraph - this can be the problem with selective quoting - well,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Speaking in terms of Mainframes, What is TRUE UTC mean?
1. What does this mean??? I am still lost like crazy here...When they
speak in terms of setting the times as TRUE UTC, do they mean the
Hardware clock (TOD) is set to UTC and the Displayed time (the desktop
clock)
I had the CSF task working on our z800. However, when we upgraded to a
z890, we did not get any sort of coprocessor card(s) because they cost
extra and we didn't perceive any need. So my first question is, can I
run CSF (on z/OS 1.6) without a coprocessor.
John, I can't help with the details
for a detail description of architecture operations ... the reference is
principles of operation
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DZ9ZR003/CCONTENTS?SHELF=DZ9ZBK03DN=SA22-7832-03DT=2004050412120
section 4.6 timing
On Apr 17, 2006, at 8:24 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
Robert,
Quite right - total rubbish - I meant to say REP, of course, as can
be seen
from the context - and the fact that I specifically said that RLD
corresponds to what can be found in the Assembler listing in the
previous
paragraph - this
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Speaking in terms of Mainframes, What is TRUE UTC mean?
1. What does this mean??? I am still lost like crazy here...When they
speak in terms of setting the times as TRUE UTC, do they mean the
Hardware clock (TOD) is set to UTC and the Displayed time (the desktop
clock)
Amen.
As I know Chris, and I know of Ron by association, I realize that these
decisions were not easy, but CA has changed over the past couple of years as
an employer.
Later,
Ray
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