Re: Why is it still there?

2006-08-28 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Gee man, this thread makes me think of the problem: how many system programmers does it take to change a lightbulb? Well: an entire forum of them. The question is answered but still there is a lot to say, consider, add, contradict, supplied, etc.etc. If the OP is to wait untill all information has

August edition of z/OS Hot Topics

2006-08-28 Thread Jodi Everdon
Check out the latest edition of z/OS Hot Topics: http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/hot_topics.html There are a lot of great topics in this issue. As always, we'd love to get your feedback and hear about what you would like to see published in future editions.

IBM's rights (was Head's Up - zIIP issue OA17458/UA28419)

2006-08-28 Thread Peter Relson
Your astonishment only shows your own limitations. Maybe true. The reason it is not reasonable and useful is for exactly the reason that Roland ran into trouble: we might choose to roll back a definition at any point for any reason that we feel useful. I'm guessing that your astonishment arises

Re: Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set

2006-08-28 Thread Johnny Luo
Now I would give the latest feedback on this topic. After I switched from 'Enterprise PL/I for Z/OS v3r1m0' to 'IBM PL/I for MVSVM V1R1M1', my problem has been solved. And I would say thanks to Barry Merrill. He kindly took my SMF dump data set duing my test and gave me the analysis: The two

IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread B Sysprog
What is going on with IBMLink? Since last Wednesday, I have hit the Our Apologies page more than IBMLink. Talked with a Help Desk person this morning who told me the URL has been changed: www.ibm.com/ibmlink/link2 That worked for a little while, now I am back to the Our Apologies page. Any

Re: ISV Anchor Table

2006-08-28 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Craddock, Chris [ snip ] You build your own stuff in a block of common storage (typically ECSA or ESQA) and place its address in your designated slot. Once its there you can access your own stuff from any

Re: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
The new URL you posted worked for me. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Tom Harper
Didn't work for me; I got the same panel about apologies. In out shop, about half of the users have success and about half fail. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Tsujimoto Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:37 AM To:

Re: SLIP trap for wild branch?

2006-08-28 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Halpern Is storage isolation on for this transaction. No. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: AMBLIST and program objects - finding offsets.

2006-08-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/25/2006 at 08:36 AM, Gibbons, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I was trying to set an IF slip given a csect name in an NFS module. Since these modules are now program objects I was not getting the right offset from the beginning of the load module. The offsets listed

Re: Head's Up - zIIP issue OA17458/UA28419

2006-08-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/26/2006 at 05:52 AM, Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Checking the runtime level happen during runtime but at assembly time I would like to know what is maximum of info. I've often used SYSPARM to control assembling for different

Re: Head's Up - zIIP issue OA17458/UA28419

2006-08-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/26/2006 at 09:33 PM, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: And, I'm astonished at your astonishment! But Peter is right. The technique of testing for the presence of control block fields at assembly time e.g., AIF (NOT D'CVTH) to skip around release-dependent

Re: HLASM Macro Call Question

2006-08-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/25/2006 at 05:33 PM, John R. Ehrman (408-463-3543 T/543-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: John Ehrman There was a subthread on the issue of whether such questions should be posted here or only on ASSEMBLER-L. What is your position? Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: JES2 Symbolic Parameter Passing

2006-08-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/27/2006 at 01:36 PM, Ken Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am looking to run an inline proc that will insert the rundate from the System Which system? They might not all be in the same timezone. into a data set name in a JES2 environment. It's an MVS problem, not

Re: New airline security measures in Europe

2006-08-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/27/2006 at 04:44 PM, Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: i think there was the vehicle plowing into the lobby of a building ... early 80s? someplace in maryland? Goldsboro Road? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/25/2006 at 01:31 PM, Martin, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I know communicating is key, but we are looking for extra controls so we don't step on each other. Any good ideas for serializing access to libraries we will be customizing? LMF or SCLM? -- Shmuel

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/27/2006 at 11:28 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ISPF/LMF. Keep a source copy of each library and a production copy. Make all changes to the source copy with ISPF Edit, which serializes updates to members. Periodically (e.g. daily plus on special

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/27/2006 at 05:17 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Likewise, if an edit session is interrupted with RECOVERY ON, does ISPF lock out other editing of the same member until the original user recovers? No. As others have noted here, CMS UPDATE provides

Re: Why is it still there?

2006-08-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/25/2006 at 04:58 PM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Any program that returns to the operating system by branching to the address it was told when it initially got control is assumed to have completed successfully. FSVO successfully. In general

Re: JES2 Symbolic Parameter Passing

2006-08-28 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 6:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JES2 Symbolic Parameter Passing snip Make a business case to IBM that they will

Re: IBM's rights (was Head's Up - zIIP issue OA17458/UA28419)

2006-08-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 08/28/2006 at 08:08 AST, Peter Relson/Poughkeepsie/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your astonishment only shows your own limitations. Maybe true. The reason it is not reasonable and useful is for exactly the reason that Roland ran into trouble: we might choose to roll back a definition

Re: Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set

2006-08-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/27/2006 at 09:49 AM, Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: IBM said it's a problem that 'VisualAge and Enterprise PL/I sometimes use BSAM for record I/O, while the older PL/I always used QSAM. That's wrong; even PL/1 (F) supported BSAM. So, what I should do? Get

Re: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Eatherly, John D [LTD]
I was told by our IBM rep that the URL below is temporary. They are having some JAVA issues. They are working it as a Severity 1. Thanks. John Eatherly What is going on with IBMLink? Since last Wednesday, I have hit the Our Apologies page more than IBMLink. Talked with a Help Desk person

Re: Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set

2006-08-28 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny Luo Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set snip So it's really because of BSAM and

Re: HLASM Macro Call Question

2006-08-28 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
John: The problem with AINSERT from what I currently understand (and we need to take this to the ASM LIST, which I will complete doing this evening), the card image must be built so that you have a non-blank that will show up in CC72. Otherwise all your data that will be substituted will get

Re: AMBLIST and program objects - finding offsets.

2006-08-28 Thread Wayne Driscoll
And I would counter that the best way to get a requirement reject by IBM is to tell them how it should be implemented. The requirement should spell out the PROBLEM in detail, not HOW the user thinks it should be fixed. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are

Re: HLASM Macro Call Question

2006-08-28 Thread Craddock, Chris
The problem with AINSERT from what I currently understand (and we need to take this to the ASM LIST, which I will complete doing this evening), the card image must be built so that you have a non-blank that will show up in CC72. Otherwise all your data that will be substituted will get

Re: New airline security measures in Europe

2006-08-28 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Phil Payne [ snip ] Let's not forget that bombs actually _have_ been carried onto the Tube whereas none have been carried onto aircraft so far. Pan Am 103 over Lockerbie was attributed to a bomb carried inside a

Re: EXCP with a DEB

2006-08-28 Thread Greg Smith
Richard Peurifoy wrote: I was curious, so I did a GTF trace and see I/O to the PDS to count the number of directories. SVC 0 is used and shows a DDNAME of , a DCB addr, and a DEB addr. There is no OPEN, CLOSE, DYNALLOC, or DEBCHK SVC. There may be branch entries internally for these

Re: Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set

2006-08-28 Thread Mike Bell
LE as used by COBOL and LE as used by PL/1 are wildly different. The functionality is the same but many of the interfaces and defaults are different. For examle, I had a problem whtere the old cobol II runtime was in the joblist - PL/1 ran just fine - COBOL did NOT. MIke On 8/28/06, Johnny Luo

Re: VSAM CLOSE failure problem

2006-08-28 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:55:35 -0500 Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: : At 16:20 -0500 on 08/25/2006, Mark wrote about Re: VSAM CLOSE failure : problem: : Charles, : When I issue the close request, I do indeed still have the ACB in : core. The SHOWCB ERROR as noted in

Re: Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set

2006-08-28 Thread J R
From: Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, ADCD 1.4 is old and maybe is lack of maintenance so its PL/I compiler is 'buggy'. But how about the compiler of my friend's site? It's the newer version and is under normal maintenance( built on 20051017) . I doubt that IBM would accept your

Uncataloged VSAM in SMS Pool

2006-08-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
To continue with my problem with DCOLLECT and phantom VSAM datasets. What appears to have happened is we have several VSAM data sets (DATA or INDEX) spread across several SMS managed volumes that are uncataloged. Does anyone know how a VSAM data sets can go through delete processing and still

Re: New airline security measures in Europe

2006-08-28 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne Lynn Wheeler Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 5:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: New airline security measures in Europe snip i think there was the vehicle plowing into the lobby

Re: Uncataloged VSAM in SMS Pool

2006-08-28 Thread Richards.Bob
Lizette, I did not see a reply from you about having volumes in more than one storage group. *That* might have caused this. Not sure. Nevertheless, you can get rid of them with a DELETE clustercomponentname VVR Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Tom Marchant
I had the same problem. This time I sent them a feedback, then I went to the z/OS page and did a search on IBMLINK. The first hit was the old page that IBMLINK has changed. I clicked the United States link and found that I was logged on and could use it. Tom Marchant On Mon, 28 Aug 2006

Re: Head's Up - zIIP issue OA17458/UA28419

2006-08-28 Thread Edward Jaffe
Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) wrote: snip If this pervasive and well-established technique becomes unreliable, I predict *lots* of software will break! snip Shall I give two for instances? JES2 and JES3 exits and interfacing code? The values of EQUates and the existence of field names are

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:48:46 -0300 In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/27/2006 at 05:17 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Likewise, if an edit session is interrupted with RECOVERY ON, does ISPF lock out other editing of the

FW: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Just one more plus for the 3270 interface.. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eatherly, John D [LTD] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

Re: New airline security measures in Europe

2006-08-28 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
On Behalf Of Anne Lynn Wheeler Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 5:44 PM i think there was the vehicle plowing into the lobby of a building ... early 80s? someplace in maryland? after that you definitely saw datacenters being moved from glass showplace next to the lobby into some form

Re: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 08/28/2006 at 08:34 AST, B Sysprog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is going on with IBMLink? Since last Wednesday, I have hit the Our Apologies page more than IBMLink. Talked with a Help Desk person this morning who told me the URL has been changed: www.ibm.com/ibmlink/link2

Re: IBM's rights (was Head's Up - zIIP issue OA17458/UA28419)

2006-08-28 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 7:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM's rights (was Head's Up - zIIP issue OA17458/UA28419) snip Roland's technique is very reasonable

Re: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Tom Harper
Alan, The new US link you mentioned below fails the same way as the others fail... Tom Harper -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBMLink

Re: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Eatherly, John D [LTD]
We are having some success with the link the following way: First, go to your normal link and try to log in. When you get the Sorry message, cut and paste the link below into your browser, hit enter, and you will be in. At least a most of our people are getting in that way. John Eatherly

Re: IBM's rights (was Head's Up - zIIP issue OA17458/UA28419)

2006-08-28 Thread David Cole
At 8/28/2006 08:08 AM, PRelson wrote: DCole wrote: Roland's technique is very reasonable considering that for many decades you did not provide any of us with an alternative. Thank you for finally providing SYSSTATE_OSREL. Did anyone ever ask for this sort of thing before you did via a

Re: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 08/28/2006 at 10:13 EST, Tom Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The new US link you mentioned below fails the same way as the others fail... :-( A previous post mentioned a Sev 1 problem. Hopefully these are all just facets of the same problem. Unfortunately IBMers cannot access

Re: SLIP trap for wild branch?

2006-08-28 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chase, John Hi, All, Got a CICS application program that branches out of itself (stays in the CICS region)

Re: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Very confusing. If I follow the link http://www.ibm.com/ibmlink and select Unitied StatesSISlogin, then I get my normal IBMLink page. But, if I take that link directly to the login screen, I get the *apology*. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Eatherly, John D [LTD]
I just did it and it redirected me back to the bad link. Thanks. John Eatherly -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the

Re: SLIP trap for wild branch?

2006-08-28 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Relson You have to know the target address. I think I can narrow it fairly well Then SLIP SET,SB,range=(target-start,target-end) can be used to set a slip trap which will hit when a branch is taken to

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-28 Thread Dave Salt
From: Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] How does WSA deal with the need to update statistics? Could you run THE on a workstation with TSO? WSA has an option that allows member statistics to be generated (or not) when files are transferred to a mainframe. I don't know if THE works with TSO,

Re: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:25:21 -0400, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately IBMers cannot access IBMLink without incurring departmental charges. We get to the back-end systems using other paths and so can't readily test or verify problems you find in the front-end applications.

Re: SLIP trap for wild branch?

2006-08-28 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 10:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SLIP trap for wild branch? snipage different libraries concatenated in front of the ISV

Re: SLIP trap for wild branch?

2006-08-28 Thread Walt Farrell
On 8/28/2006 11:38 AM, Chase, John wrote: Hopefully the trap is sprung when the target address first appears in the PSW, and before the current registers (esp. the program base regs) can get changed? If it's truly a wild branch then most likely an abend happens within the first handful of

Re: SLIP trap for wild branch?

2006-08-28 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) [ snip ] Just to be sure that you have checked all the environmental things: Look at the CICS where it runs correctly and then look at the others. If the libraries are different (PDS

Unable To Find Error Message - ADSDM192

2006-08-28 Thread John Dawes
Hi All, I am burning the midnight oil. I have a problem trying to track down an error messsage :ADSDM192. This pertains to CA-DISK product. I checked the IBM BOOK MANAGER BookServer but no luck. I GOOGLED the error message but no dice. I checked CA-Disk(TM) Release 9.0.2 (CADISK92)

Re: Unable To Find Error Message - ADSDM192

2006-08-28 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
Just a thought, have you tried CA support? Thanks, Fletch -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 12:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Unable To Find Error Message - ADSDM192 Hi

Re: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Mark Zelden
This is what I have bookmarked, and it just worked for me: (sorry for any URL wrap) http://www-306.ibm.com/ibmlink/link2/servicelink/servicelinkPage.jsp?lc=encc=US Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group mailto:

Re: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
That URL actually resolves to: https://www-304.ibm.com/usrsrvc/account/userservices/jsp/login.jsp?persistPage=true which is the URL that worked originally. That did work for me, but when you sign-out, and click on sign-in, you get a different URL and get a screen that asks you to update your

Re: SVC Screening and TCBUSER

2006-08-28 Thread Ray Mullins
Hi Peter, It was SVC screening, and screening is propagated to daughter TCBs (by trapping ATTACH). The routine I wrote was needed because certain 3rd-party IEBCOPY replacements attached their own SVCs, and security issues were arising because TCBSENV was not being propagated. (This was over a

Re: SLIP trap for wild branch?

2006-08-28 Thread Craddock, Chris
snip The current production sysplex is running on a pair of Amdahl Millennium boxes (a 700 series and a 2000 series). The ISV application runs correctly in all three CICSes on both Amdahls. snip Except as just noted, ALL of the software is identical across both sysplex images. The only

IBMLINK UPDATE -- Do NOT bookmark the Sign In page

2006-08-28 Thread James Chappell
28 August 2006 Do NOT bookmark the Sign In page This article provides recommendations on how to access IBMLink pages, whether invoking a bookmark you previously created, clicking on a link in a note or document, or entering a URL into your browser. By following these recommendations, you will

Anyone know where?

2006-08-28 Thread Petersen, Jim
Anyone know where I can find a DSECT for the ULUT which is pointed to by the IOVTULUT. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Unable To Find Error Message - ADSDM192

2006-08-28 Thread John Kington
John, Did you get a four digit number after the ADSDM192 message? If so, try to find that code in the message manual. Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: Anyone know where?

2006-08-28 Thread Roland Schiradin
ULUT is OCO. Starting with z/OS R7 the ULUT has been changed. In this case you will see a x'02' (version) at offset 4. Roland Anyone know where I can find a DSECT for the ULUT which is pointed to by the IOVTULUT. -- For

Re: SLIP trap for wild branch?

2006-08-28 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Craddock, Chris snip The current production sysplex is running on a pair of Amdahl Millennium boxes (a 700 series and a 2000 series). The ISV application runs correctly in all three CICSes on both Amdahls.

Re: SLIP trap for wild branch?

2006-08-28 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 12:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SLIP trap for wild branch? snip Might be worth a shot. I initially dismissed this as a possibility

Re: Unable To Find Error Message - ADSDM192

2006-08-28 Thread John Dawes
I do have it the 4 digit (4266) but I cannot find the message manual online. I tried calling CA and I get all our associates (I think that's what it said) are busyblah blah blah. Since it is not an emergency I put the phone down. I am going to have 40 winks and hopefully I will

Re: SLIP trap for wild branch?

2006-08-28 Thread Craddock, Chris
Might be worth a shot. I initially dismissed this as a possibility because the application is CICS/COBOL, and those kinds of programs normally don't visit the PSA (indeed, not many of them even know there *is* a PSA, let alone where to find it). Its not that they intentionally visit the

Re: What part of z/OS is the OS?

2006-08-28 Thread Kuredjian, Michael
I would venture to say that the operating system as we see it today is a package of a kernel, API, and system utilities. Some would argue that an operating system is only a kernel, and that wouldn't be wrong, just academic. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: What part of z/OS is the OS?

2006-08-28 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 08/28/2006 at 06:45 ZE2, Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a general consensus about what pieces or aspects of the software shipped with z/OS would be defined as the operating system? It depends on your definition of of operating system. The classical definition

Re: VSAM CLOSE failure problem

2006-08-28 Thread Mark
Binyamin Dissen wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:55:35 -0500 Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: : At 16:20 -0500 on 08/25/2006, Mark wrote about Re: VSAM CLOSE failure : problem: : Charles, : When I issue the close request, I do indeed still have the ACB in : core. The

Re: Uncataloged VSAM in SMS Pool

2006-08-28 Thread Greg Shirey
Lizette, I don't know about deleting the cluster and leaving the DATA INDEX components, but I have seen where the data sets were created and put on the SMS volumes from a different LPAR (catalogs are either not shared). So, from the production side we see only uncataloged DATA INDEX

Re: What part of z/OS is the OS?

2006-08-28 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:13:28 -0400, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It depends on your definition of of operating system. The classical definition is the chunk of software that manages the real system resources, allocating them to application programs. That is, the gatekeeper for access

Re: SLIP trap for wild branch?

2006-08-28 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chase, John Might be worth a shot. I initially dismissed this as a possibility because the application is

Dups In KSDS,ESDS

2006-08-28 Thread Carol Srna
Hello Gentle Listers. Is there a standard way to handle dups if found in a KSDS, or an ESDS? Or a non-standard way? How are duplicates handled for these type clusters? Thank In Advance Carol -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: DSORG=IS

2006-08-28 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:28:16 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the other hand, DISP=SHARE (do not confuse with SHR) is still supported and documented. Never heard of it, and it's not in the z/OS 1.8 JCL Reference. --

Re: Dups In KSDS,ESDS

2006-08-28 Thread Mark Pace
You should not have dups in a KSDS file. During write processing you should have had a dupkey condition raised. For ESDS I would probably use SORT/MERGE and tell it to drop dups. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317

Re: Unable To Find Error Message - ADSDM192

2006-08-28 Thread John Kington
John, I do have it the 4 digit (4266) but I cannot find the message manual online. I did not have it in my local manuals either. I found the manual through the CA-Disk forum page on esupport website. 4266 FILES-DD IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR (FFF) It appears you tried a function that requires an

Re: What part of z/OS is the OS?

2006-08-28 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Alan Altmark writes: It depends on your definition of of operating system. The classical definition is the chunk of software that manages the real system resources, allocating them to application programs. That is, the gatekeeper for access to the CPU, memory, and I/O devices. That would

Re: DSORG=IS

2006-08-28 Thread John P Kalinich
From the z/OS 1.7 JCL Reference... SHR Indicates that the data set exists before this step and that other jobs can share it, that is, use it at the same time. This subparameter can also be coded as SHARE.

Re: DSORG=IS

2006-08-28 Thread Tom Marchant
Thanks. The thing that confused me was Radoslaw's comment, do not confuse with SHR. On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:56:44 -0500, John P Kalinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the z/OS 1.7 JCL Reference... SHR Indicates that the data set exists before this step and that other jobs can share it, that

Re: Dups In KSDS,ESDS

2006-08-28 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:41:02 -0500 Carol Srna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Is there a standard way to handle dups if found in a KSDS, or an ESDS? :Or a non-standard way? :How are duplicates handled for these type clusters? You shouldn't have dup's in a KSDS. Regarding an ESDS: What does your

Re: Dups In KSDS,ESDS

2006-08-28 Thread Kirk Talman
You can have duplicate keys in a path that uses an alternate index to access a KSDS. The true key built by VSAM for the alternate index has a tie-breaker field. What does it mean to have a dup in an ESDS? There is no key? pup IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on

Re: AMBLIST and program objects - finding offsets.

2006-08-28 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:56:36 -0400, Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I would counter that the best way to get a requirement reject by IBM is to tell them how it should be implemented. The requirement should spell out the PROBLEM in detail, not HOW the user thinks it should be ... It

Re: What part of z/OS is the OS?

2006-08-28 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Thanks Alan. I realized that coming up with a definition of what is an operating system was a slippery slope. So I thought to ask if maybe it was more well defined for z/OS by IBM. I tried to think of an example where things were clear. I could think of maybe PC-DOS 1.2. If I remember

FW: SLIP trap for wild branch?

2006-08-28 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Couldn't you use a GTF trace with the trace=slip operand and set an IF or SB SLIP ACTION=TRACE with the limits being in your program? Setting TRDATA=(STD,REGS) should show you where the branch is occurring and where it is branching to. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683

Re: What part of z/OS is the OS?

2006-08-28 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 2:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What part of z/OS is the OS? Thanks Alan. I realized that coming up with a definition of what is an

Re: What part of z/OS is the OS?

2006-08-28 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: the result was that w/o stringently enforced microkernel standards ... the micro-kernel tended to become extremely bloated, starting to resemble the kernels of more traditionally implemented operating systems ... becoming more and more bloating and much more difficult

Re: JCL - Copy Tape

2006-08-28 Thread R.S.
Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) wrote: How did this tape get created? Was it created on a VSE system? If so not all of the label information is filled out and so *YOU* have to supply the actual physical record size (BLKSIZE) along with the other DCB info. UNLESS you are using LBI. In that case, the

Re: VSAM CLOSE failure problem

2006-08-28 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:14:19 -0500 Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Binyamin Dissen wrote: : On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:55:35 -0500 Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : :Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: : : At 16:20 -0500 on 08/25/2006, Mark wrote about Re: VSAM CLOSE failure : : problem: : : Charles, : : When

Re: JCL - Copy Tape

2006-08-28 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 2:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: JCL - Copy Tape Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) wrote: How did this tape get created? Was it created on a VSE system? If

Re: DSORG=IS

2006-08-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
From the other hand, DISP=SHARE (do not confuse with SHR) is still supported and documented. Never heard of it, and it's not in the z/OS 1.8 JCL Reference. When I was taught JCl, in an earlier aeon, I was taught DISP=SHARE and DSNAME= ... I now use SHR and DSN because I moved to a site using

Re: What part of z/OS is the OS?

2006-08-28 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 8/28/2006 2:43:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you are a contract programmer in the state of Ohio, you must charge sales tax any time the work you do involves the installation or modification of the operating system! Ok, so I asked the

Re: IBMLink

2006-08-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/28/2006 at 11:25 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Unfortunately IBMers cannot access IBMLink without incurring departmental charges. Sigh! I'm firmly convinced that vendors should eat their own dog food, and I consider charging departments for access to

Re: VSAM CLOSE failure problem

2006-08-28 Thread Mark
Binyamin Dissen wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:14:19 -0500 Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Binyamin Dissen wrote: : On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:55:35 -0500 Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : :Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: : : At 16:20 -0500 on 08/25/2006, Mark wrote about Re: VSAM CLOSE failure : :

Re: VSAM CLOSE failure problem

2006-08-28 Thread Mark
Binyamin Dissen wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:14:19 -0500 Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Binyamin Dissen wrote: : On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:55:35 -0500 Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : :Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: : : At 16:20 -0500 on 08/25/2006, Mark wrote about Re: VSAM CLOSE failure : :

Re: VSAM CLOSE failure problem

2006-08-28 Thread Mark
Binyamin Dissen wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:14:19 -0500 Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Binyamin Dissen wrote: : On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:55:35 -0500 Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : :Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: : : At 16:20 -0500 on 08/25/2006, Mark wrote about Re: VSAM CLOSE failure : :

Re: VSAM CLOSE failure problem

2006-08-28 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/28/2006 4:22:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, it turns out that I have a valid in core ACB in both situations. Verified through the dump contents of both dumps. Guess I'd change the order of the closes and see if last one fails or

Re: Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set

2006-08-28 Thread Rick Arellanes
This performance problem was addressed in December 2004 (APAR PQ95212) when we did the I/O rewrite. We have made substantial improvements in Enterprise PL/I I/O during the past couple of years and we are in the process of making more. For example, PQ95212 (12/2004) improved PL/I's record I/O

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