Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread R.S.
Van Dalsen, Herbie wrote: Lindy, I agree with all the points you made below, but... Surely the copy of windows that you are running is fully licensed? Why expect IBM to give it away for free. Dell gives discounts on desktops to employees of companies that buy enough Dell servers from them, but

IEFACTRT modifications

2007-12-05 Thread Jaco Kruger
We were requested to display the JOB MAXCC on the SYSLOG on Job completion We customized our IEFACTRT exit for the required changes. We display the return codes correctly except when a step is FLUSHED because of Condition Code settings or when the job is FLUSHED e.g. when JCL ERROR occured.

FICON FCTC

2007-12-05 Thread Eric Mendelson
We are having problems trying to implement FICON CTC. Our problem is understanding what we have to code for the CHPID Path and Control Unit. We have a Switched point to point configuration with obe switch label C(. I see were we have to code the Dynamic Switch value but I do not understand

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Van Dalsen, Herbie
Has IBM canceled its commitment to the P390 ? Have they developed a 64bit equivalent yet? I know very little about this, but I almost bought myself one, but I was not a registered developer, so I could not get SW upgrades. I am sure that is training instances / developers register, IBM will still

Batch Job to Eject Cartridge(s)

2007-12-05 Thread Art
I was reading in IBM TS3500 Tape Library with System Z Attachment: A practical Guide to TS1120 Tape Drives and TS3500 Tape Automation? page 382 section 13.8.1 that a Batch Job could be used to Eject tapes from the ATL. But I could not find an example of the JCL. I have searched several of the

RES: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-05 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Angel, Is your 1.8 part of any Sysplex ? Monoplex ? Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco Bradesco S/A 4254/DPCD Alphaville Engenharia de Software - Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 HTMLfont face=Tahoma

Re: IBM RAMAC now an URBAN Legend:(

2007-12-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 07:33:10 -0600, Doc Farmer wrote: What kills me (figuratively, of course) is when I look at the capacity of today's IBM drives. A 3390-3 seems like so much when you're talking tracks and cyls, but it's really around 2.8 gig. Hades tintinnabulum, I've got over a TERABYTE of

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Corneel Booysen
I love the letter Clement! Maybe we can end it with: Mr. Palmisano we are asking you today...BREAK DOWN THIS WALL!!! (Quoting president Reagan - incase somebody had doubt where that came from) Corneel Booysen. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-05 Thread Angel Tamayo
It's monoplex. 2007/12/5, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Angel, Is your 1.8 part of any Sysplex ? Monoplex ? Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco Bradesco S/A 4254/DPCD Alphaville Engenharia de Software - Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes

Re: IBM RAMAC now an URBAN Legend:(

2007-12-05 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Doc Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Geez, what am I supposed to do with all those years of feeling *unofficially* old? What kills me (figuratively, of course) is when I look at the capacity of today's IBM drives. A 3390-3 seems like so much when you're

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Clement Clarke
Hi Roger, Sam and Doc and other interested people, I have just learned that Sam is in Oz (for the first time ever). See http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,24897,22874620-16123,00.html In the past, I have spoken to a few people in IBM (gosh, I worked there for 4 years), and, if we are

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:16:46 -, Van Dalsen, Herbie wrote: In my opinion, what makes IBM code safe in terms Auditing risk, is the fact that only IBM labs work on it. You need a really P'd-off IBMer to plant a Trojan in the code, and a few P'd-off testers to miss it during testing. So I would

IBM RAMAC now an URBAN Legend:(

2007-12-05 Thread Ed Gould
http://www.snopes.com/photos/technology/storage.asp I guess we can all feel really officially OLD. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET

Re: IEFACTRT modifications

2007-12-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jaco Kruger wrote: We were requested to display the JOB MAXCC on the SYSLOG on Job completion What z/OS level? We display the return codes correctly except when a step is FLUSHED because of Condition Code settings or when the job is FLUSHED e.g. when JCL ERROR occured. What message(s) do

Re: Batch Job to Eject Cartridge(s)

2007-12-05 Thread Mike Wood
Art, Seems there could be a list of ways you could do this . 1. DFSMSrmm - run RMM CV volser EJECT command in batch TMP 2. From rexx, use the console interface to issue the operator LIBRARY EJECT command 3. Look at the sample (SAMPLIB) CBRSPLCS - it is a ready written program that processes

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Ian
Clem, Nice letter. I don't know how far this effort will get us in getting access to some sort of developers license for z/OS and CICS but it is worth the effort and it will show IBM that the users do care about the survival of the Mainframe platform. I do think though that getting the letter

Re: Excel Question

2007-12-05 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed. Benoit Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Excel Question Hello All, Any Excel List that I can ask these questions? I have some email

Re: IBM RAMAC now an URBAN Legend:(

2007-12-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 08:32:35 -0600, Rick Fochtman wrote: Yeah? So when can we expect IBM to recognize its blunder and abandon its commitment never to provide customers anything better than a 3390? --unsnip--- Define better. One of the biggest complaints about

Re: CSVQUERY and AMODE64

2007-12-05 Thread Roland Schiradin
Peter, yep this bit is on for AMODE 64. Danke Roland CSVQUERY doesn't return any info for AMODE64. Alternate function/macro? My fault, I didn't get the doc updated. I will get that underway. The CSVQUERY macro prolog is correct. The x'01' bit of the OUTATTR2 keyword is on to indicate AMODE

Re: IBM RAMAC now an URBAN Legend:(

2007-12-05 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 7:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM RAMAC now an URBAN Legend:( On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 07:33:10 -0600, Doc Farmer wrote:

Re: Excel Question

2007-12-05 Thread Ed. Benoit
John, What is a paragraph mark? I will attempt this if I can make the change from comma to a paragraph mark. Ed. Benoit Recovery Knowledge DB2 Automation Is Our Only Business 562-436-3660 **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products.

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Van Dalsen, Herbie) writes: And who came up with XA I/O? Amdahl, in order to do MDF and share channels had to do floating I/O interrupts, and

Re: KSDS CA split, no CI split

2007-12-05 Thread R.S.
Ted MacNEIL wrote: It appears that VSAM can create a CA split without a CI split, see z/OS DFSMS Using Data Sets Chapter 9. See the RedBook De-Mystifying VSAM. It tells us that splits are not to be feared. I think you mean VSAM Demystified SG 24-6105. Good book, I read it entirely few

Re: CATALOG QUESTION - CISIZE

2007-12-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I have to reorg some USER CATS because they contain the IMBED parm. You shouldn't have to for z/OS 1.8, nor should you put it on your critical path for implemementation. Yes, support for IMBED is going away, but existing datasets don't fail, under any release of z/OS, yet (unless I've missed an

Re: RMM Scratch list short

2007-12-05 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
RMM SV OWNER(*) VOLUME(V*) STATUS(SCRATCH) LIMIT(*) But it will only list the scratch volumes to V0. I have volumes defined out to V4. Stupid mistake on my part. The query works fine. The final tape list I was reviewing was created downstream in a job which contained additional sorts to

Re: Using CSVINFO

2007-12-05 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 16:37:52 -0600, David Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TMMODI_ATTR2,MODI_MINOR IS THIS A MINOR ENTRY POINT BZGTLP0550NO ICM R4,15,MODI_5_PTRGET PTR TO MODI_5 DSECT BZGTLP0550NO MINOR ENTRY USING MODI_5,R4 MVC

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~oscarptyltd/Letter%20to%20Sam%20Palmisano.html I don't know if this is going to be convincing. Especially with spelling errors: 1. It's z/OS, not Z/OS. 2. You have spelled student as studnt in one place. It may seem nit-picky, but spelling errors always reduce the

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Arthur T.
On 5 Dec 2007 05:32:10 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clement Clarke) wrote: I've written something fairly quickly, and stood on the shoulders of others by incorporating their comments. I'll send it to Sam first thing tomorrow (it is sleep

Re: CATALOG QUESTION - CISIZE

2007-12-05 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 06:45 -0800, willie bunter wrote: We will be implementing Z/OS 1.8 soon. I have to reorg some USER CATS Oh, and lest I forget: you may want to disable autotuning, which has had problems in z/OS 1.8. (Has IBM fixed this yet? I haven't been paying attention.) -- David

Re: RMM Scratch list short

2007-12-05 Thread Mike Wood
Jeffrey, You dont say how you are issuing the command, or whether there are any error messages or non-zero return codes or reason code. I would never have assumed you were issuing this from Rexx and asking for variables back; but Tom did, and he could be correct. TSO PROFILE VARSTOR (HIGH)

Re: IBM RAMAC now an URBAN Legend:(

2007-12-05 Thread Howard Brazee
On 5 Dec 2007 05:33:20 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doc Farmer) wrote: Geez, what am I supposed to do with all those years of feeling *unofficially* old? What kills me (figuratively, of course) is when I look at the capacity of today's IBM drives. A 3390-3 seems like so much when you're talking

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Mohammad Khan
Not really. Last week in one of the Hercules groups someone mentioned his friend developing a personal finance application on z/OS using CICS and DB2. I could not help asking if the person in question is Sam's son-in-law. On which the original poster replied in negative but indicated that the

Re: IEFACTRT modifications

2007-12-05 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip--- We were requested to display the JOB MAXCC on the SYSLOG on Job completion We customized our IEFACTRT exit for the required changes. We display the return codes correctly except when a step is FLUSHED because of Condition Code settings

Re: CATALOG QUESTION - CISIZE

2007-12-05 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 06:45 -0800, willie bunter wrote: My question is should I need to code the CISIZE parm (CISIZE 28672 which is being used in the current USER CAT) or is the system default of 4096 sufficient? At the Tampa SHARE, Eileen McClintock gave a Tuning Techniques for Catalogs

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip-- I have heard this. I have heard likewise that IBM performed a sweep of their facilities and all employees found running z/OS on Hercules illegally were provided copies of Flex. Alll unsubstantiatable rumors. I would think in the current

Re: IEFACTRT modifications

2007-12-05 Thread Jaco Kruger
Our Z/OS Level is 1.8 Following is the output in the SYSLOG IEF404I DSYSPJKA - ENDED - TIME=16.27.19 -DSYSPJKA ENDED. NAME-TEST TOTAL TCB CPU TIME= .00 TOTAL ELAPSED TIME=.0 MAXCC=0 $HASP395 DSYSPJKA ENDED

Re: IBM RAMAC now an URBAN Legend:(

2007-12-05 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Ed Gould wrote: http://www.snopes.com/photos/technology/storage.asp I guess we can all feel really officially OLD. I remember standing on Madison Avenue and watching the arm go up and down. Seems like a different world, almost. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT

Re: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning?

2007-12-05 Thread Doc Farmer
Could be worse. He could have chosen to sell sprouts instead of waffles, y'know... On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:17:44 -0500, Ed Philbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dinges is Belgian(?) for the waffle toppings. He is Belgian. EdP

Re: Using CSVINFO

2007-12-05 Thread David Day
OK, I'll put some logic in the MIPR to look for an entry I know to be an alias, then force a dump. I'll let you know what I find. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, December 05,

Re: Excel Question

2007-12-05 Thread Lizette Koehler
Ed, What are you trying to do in EXCEL that WORD will not do? I usually use the WORD MAIL MERGE feature to create address lists. You can mail merge EXCEL data into a WORD document to create Letters, mailers, directories, etc. Lizette -Original Message- From: Ed. Benoit [EMAIL

Re: Using CSVINFO

2007-12-05 Thread Peter Relson
It doesn't on my system. Bit is not set in the MODI data area returned. That is extremely unlikely, close to impossible. You likely have some other coding error. The information about it is an alias AKA minor is copied directly from the CDE (for active LPA) or LPDE (for PLPA). It is not

Re: Excel Question (Problem resolved)

2007-12-05 Thread Ed. Benoit
Thanks to everyone the problem is fixed. The replace with a ^p (caret p). is what I used but I thank everyone for the help. Ed. **Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop000301)

Re: KSDS CA split, no CI split

2007-12-05 Thread R.S.
Gene Hudders wrote: [...] I sure would hate to take too many CA splits in an on-line environment especially if the CA split requires another extent for either the data and/or index component. That's why I wrote not so bad. g Indeed CA split is painful (CI also, but the pain is CI/CA times

Re: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning?

2007-12-05 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
I agree with you and remember the conversations. I was just putting the earlier thread into context. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of daver++ Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning?

2007-12-05 Thread Ed Philbrook
August, Sorry, I didn't catch the exact location. EdP August Carideo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 12/05/2007 12:03 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re:

Re: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning?

2007-12-05 Thread Ed Philbrook
Steve, It was a hot topic here not too long ago. An ex-IBMer gave up his well paying job to sell Belgian waffles on the street in NYC. Maybe it was only on the CICS-L. EdP -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Excel Question

2007-12-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Is there a way to do this with copy and paste that I do not know? PASTE SPECIAL -- UNFORMATTED TEXT - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Ian
What do you think of the idea to make it a signature driven petition rather than a letter from a single person? Ian http://www.pcs305.com On 12/5/07, Doc Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me try to clean up the format a bit and correct a few of the structural items... -Original

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Doc Farmer
Let me try to clean up the format a bit and correct a few of the structural items... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:54 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its

Re: curiousity: why CONFIG instead of VARY?

2007-12-05 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Radoslaw, Try F OMVS,SHUTDOWN instead. It works for me... Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: curiousity: why CONFIG instead of VARY?

Re: curiousity: why CONFIG instead of VARY?

2007-12-05 Thread R.S.
McKown, John wrote: In the deep, dark, past, I remember that we used the VARY command to change the status of things such as storage, CPs, and channels. Now, some things such as DEVICES are manipulated via the VARY command whereas others, such as the CHPs, are manipulated via the CONFIG command.

Re: curiousity: why CONFIG instead of VARY?

2007-12-05 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
John, Somehow I have it stuck in my mind that the VARY command just works at the OS level, varying devices online or offline to z/OS but nothing else. Using the CONFIG command actually changed the configuration in the I/O subsystem or other areas that are closer to the hardware. I'm probably

Re: KSDS CA split, no CI split

2007-12-05 Thread R.S.
Ted MacNEIL wrote: I'm trying to understand how it works. Analyze the guts of VSAM. I'm learning! I've played with VSAM since before ICF (26 years). I never intended to denigrate what you were doing. I thought you were expousing a problem; I didn't realise it was a learning experience. Sorry

Re: KSDS CA split, no CI split

2007-12-05 Thread Michael Poil
RS, a) A CA split is still costly, but having extra data buffers normally helps though (BUFND=); a CI split is almost nothing now. b) Empty CIs are not read by VSAM. Almost empty CIs cost the same for random read as for full CIs. For sequential read almost empty CIs does cost extra. You can

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 6:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly Ever wonder how much money IBM is paying to Fujitsu for

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Ron Wells
Have to disagree with not making the source open again...as it once was... Having the opportunity to modify / change as the need arose was great for me coming up through the learning process .Learned much and taught/passed on the same. Think many Linux / Sun people would agree .. But even when

Re: KSDS CA split, no CI split

2007-12-05 Thread R.S.
Ted MacNEIL wrote: think you mean VSAM Demystified SG 24-6105. Yes. I read it when it first came out, and haven't looked at it since. So, what I laughingly call a memory (old-timer's), couldn't retain the original title. But, the point is still: who needs to care about splits anymore?

Re: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning?

2007-12-05 Thread Ed Philbrook
Dinges is Belgian(?) for the waffle toppings. He is Belgian. EdP -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning?

2007-12-05 Thread daver++
From: August Carideo [EMAIL PROTECTED] was he still in the same location ? I have continued to see him on Broadway between Spring and Prince on every weeknight I have been in the area since the original thread. He posts a locater here: http://www.wafelsanddinges.com/location.html

Re: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning?

2007-12-05 Thread daver++
From: Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He's talking about the former IBM'er who gave up the 9-5 grind to make Belgium waffles in New York. There was a rather lengthy thread a few weeks ago, with people thinking he changed because of outsourcing overseas and so on. When I spoke with him he

Re: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning?

2007-12-05 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Steve, He's talking about the former IBM'er who gave up the 9-5 grind to make Belgium waffles in New York. There was a rather lengthy thread a few weeks ago, with people thinking he changed because of outsourcing overseas and so on. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning?

2007-12-05 Thread August Carideo
was he still in the same location ? Ed Philbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] TATE.NY.US

Re: CATALOG QUESTION - CISIZE

2007-12-05 Thread willie bunter
Thanks John. McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CATALOG QUESTION - CISIZE Thanks to

Re: Crypto Related Posts

2007-12-05 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 08:24:39 -0500, Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, Actually, that would be Ms Choi on RACF-L. Yes, she's very good, but I think Wai deals primarily with digital certificate and PKI questions, not crypto in general. -- Walt

Re: KSDS CA split, no CI split

2007-12-05 Thread CICS Guy
Yea, judging from RS's comment, I guess it does Many years ago, I thought I had understood from a knowledgeable source that it didn'tEither it changed or the source was not that knowledgeablegrin. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Michael PoilSent: Wed 12/5/2007

Re: IBM RAMAC now an URBAN Legend:(

2007-12-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I know the arguments about people don't want to do another DASD conversion. Having lived 3330 to 3350 to 3380 to 3390 (with emulation mode in there), I agree with the sentiment. But, 3390 does not entirely limit the size of a volume. It's the software architecture. With virtualisation and

Re: Using CSVINFO

2007-12-05 Thread David Day
LRR8,R1 USING MODI_HEADER,R8 ICM R7,15,MODI_1_PTRGET DSECT 1'S ADDRESS BZGTLPMIPXCAN'T DO ANYTHING USING MODI_1,R7 I don't know if it makes any difference, but the call to CSVINFO is made in sup state, with a psw key of 0. My code runs normally sup state, psw key 8.

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wells Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly Have to disagree with not making the source open

Re: curiousity: why CONFIG instead of VARY?

2007-12-05 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:36:12 -0600, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the deep, dark, past, I remember that we used the VARY command to change the status of things such as storage, CPs, and channels. Now, some things such as DEVICES are manipulated via the VARY command whereas others, such

Determining IMS transaction service class

2007-12-05 Thread Rob Wunderlich
Does anyone have any experience determining what service class was assigned to a given IMS transaction? The IMS log records do not appear to have this information. Thanks, Rob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

curiousity: why CONFIG instead of VARY?

2007-12-05 Thread McKown, John
In the deep, dark, past, I remember that we used the VARY command to change the status of things such as storage, CPs, and channels. Now, some things such as DEVICES are manipulated via the VARY command whereas others, such as the CHPs, are manipulated via the CONFIG command. Anybody have any idea

Re: KSDS CA split, no CI split

2007-12-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I sure would hate to take too many CA splits in an on-line environment especially if the CA split requires another extent for either the data and/or index component. That's the whole point of Demystified. The only cost of the split is at 'split time'. And, with today's disk and CPU capacity,

Re: KSDS CA split, no CI split

2007-12-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
think you mean VSAM Demystified SG 24-6105. Yes. I read it when it first came out, and haven't looked at it since. So, what I laughingly call a memory (old-timer's), couldn't retain the original title. But, the point is still: who needs to care about splits anymore? Regardless of the reasons

Re: BatchPipes Hipersocket stage?

2007-12-05 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 19:41:42 +, Martin Packer wrote: Tom, did you ever get any offline responses to this? By the way I feel a blog entry on BatchPipeWorks coming on. :-) Martin, No responses from that or from another recent request for information. (Apparently I'm either off where

Re: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning?

2007-12-05 Thread daver++
From: Doc Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah, but were his waffles any good? They are excellent, if a bit pricey. But what isn't in Manhattan? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning?

2007-12-05 Thread daver++
From: Ed Philbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was a hot topic here not too long ago. An ex-IBMer gave up his well paying job to sell Belgian waffles on the street in NYC. Maybe it was only on the CICS-L. It was on IBM-MAIN.

Re: KSDS CA split, no CI split

2007-12-05 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I'm trying to understand how it works. Analyze the guts of VSAM. I'm learning! I've played with VSAM since before ICF (26 years). I never intended to denigrate what you were doing. I thought you were expousing a problem; I didn't realise it was a learning experience. Sorry about that. - Too

Re: IBM RAMAC now an URBAN Legend:(

2007-12-05 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 08:34:43 -0600, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Looks a little like the old 2302 fixed disk drive. ... I've never seen either in real life, but the sfuff to the left of the platters in the picture look to me like verticle movement stuff for the head. I think the

Re: Tape/Cart drives

2007-12-05 Thread Ron Wells
Looking for pro's/con's on tape drives from IBM vs STK and ?... experiences .. Looking at performance / reliability /encryption facilities ... so on... any decent write-ups out there ?? -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail

Open z/Architecture or Not

2007-12-05 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi, I have followed the T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly and seen how it has changed from commentary on that issue to a dissertation on the merits or otherwise of having ready access to z/OS and possible it's source as in the pre-MVS days. For its worth my observation is that the

Re: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning?

2007-12-05 Thread Steve Comstock
Ed Philbrook wrote: Steve, It was a hot topic here not too long ago. An ex-IBMer gave up his well paying job to sell Belgian waffles on the street in NYC. Maybe it was only on the CICS-L. EdP Ah, I remember the waffles thread but I didn't understand the reference to Dinges, so it

Re: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning?

2007-12-05 Thread Doc Farmer
Yeah, but were his waffles any good? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Philbrook Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:55 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning? I believe

Re: Anyone else see the Waffle Dinges man on TV this morning?

2007-12-05 Thread Steve Comstock
Ed Philbrook wrote: I believe it was CBS's morning program. They made a big deal of his being a former IBMer. EdP What _are_ you talking about? Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier

Re: KSDS CA split, no CI split

2007-12-05 Thread Gene Hudders
In a message dated 12/5/2007 12:07:04 P.M. SA Western Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ted MacNEIL wrote: It appears that VSAM can create a CA split without a CI split, see z/OS DFSMS Using Data Sets Chapter 9. See the RedBook De-Mystifying VSAM. It tells us that splits are

Re: CATALOG QUESTION - CISIZE

2007-12-05 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 10:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CATALOG QUESTION - CISIZE Thanks to all who responded. Last question, I compared the

Re: Excel Question

2007-12-05 Thread HUTCHISON Gregory
In addition, if you are starting with data in a coma separated string such as: Joe Bolw, John Smith, Willard Brown, Replace each delimiter with 5 or 6 delimiters and EXCEK will then start a new row with each like - Joe Blow John Smith Willard Brown . . . -Original Message- From:

Re: Excel Question

2007-12-05 Thread Hylton Tom P
Either of these two listservs: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed. Benoit Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Excel Question Hello All, Any

Re: curiousity: why CONFIG instead of VARY?

2007-12-05 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: curiousity: why CONFIG instead of VARY? Radoslaw, Try F OMVS,SHUTDOWN instead. It

Re: No z/OS UNIX Support in System REXX?

2007-12-05 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 08:23:58 -0600, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... ICH408I JOB(AXR04 ) STEP(AXR04 ) CL(PROCESS ) OMVS SEGMENT NOT DEFINED Anyone got this to work? Looks like your job (started task?) needs a userID with an OMVS segment. ... I could be way off base, but I

Re: Determining IMS transaction service class

2007-12-05 Thread Staller, Allan
This is exclusively a Workload Manager function (if implemented). IMS has no internal knowledge of WLM service classes. Check the workload classification rules in WLM snip Subject: Determining IMS transaction service class Does anyone have any experience determining what service class was

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Doc Farmer
I didn't know that there were z/VM or other z Series PC emulators available... On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:01:20 -0600, Rich Smrcina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm certainly in favor of that, in addition to expanding the letter to include other System z operating systems.

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Van Dalsen, Herbie) writes: And who came up with XA I/O? Amdahl, in order to do MDF and share channels had to do floating I/O interrupts, and

Re: Batch Job to Eject Cartridge(s)

2007-12-05 Thread Mark Pace
Art - Here is the JCL that I use to eject volumes from our ATL. //REMOVEV EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD * //* REMOVE A VOLUME FROM THE ATL RMM RMM DV xx FORCE EJECT On Dec 5, 2007 6:41 AM, Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't mention (in origianl question)

Re: IBM RAMAC now an URBAN Legend:(

2007-12-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:55:23 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: But, 3390 does not entirely limit the size of a volume. It's the software architecture. z/Series HW design is far in advance of z/OS software design. The bar is a delusion of z/OS, not a limitation of z/Series. With virtualisation and

Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly

2007-12-05 Thread Doc Farmer
Well, I've got no problem with that. Alternately, we can add names to the end of the letter (sort of a we the undersigned thing). On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 10:20:54 -0600, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you think of the idea to make it a signature driven petition rather than a letter from a

Re: TSO - Automatic notify messages after log on

2007-12-05 Thread Walt Farrell
On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:54:42 -0500, Angel Tamayo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently (15 days ago) we upgrade successfully our z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.8, but 5 days ago we noticed a difference in TSO between being logged on and not logged on at the time the job completes with notify messages: If I'm

Re: Native NTP support on Z/OS

2007-12-05 Thread Bruce Richardson
We have the problem of keeping our z/OS 1.7 in sync with the rest of the world here (lots of Windows and HP/UX). We looked at the sysplex timer, at the time, the hardware was pricey, and the CPU (Amdahl Omniprise) could not be order with the ETR feature (GOLC rules). Since then, we have moved

SYSAFF

2007-12-05 Thread Raquel Calvo Olmos
Hi, we have a 3-way-sysplex (SYSA/SYSB/SYSC) with z/OS 1.8 (JES2 MAS). We want to divert joblogs to a specific disc of SPOOL according to the CPU executions of each one. With this command /$TSPL(SPOO0%),SYSAFF=SYS% we've assign a disc of SPOOL for each system. We have:

Re: CATALOG QUESTION - CISIZE

2007-12-05 Thread willie bunter
Thanks to all who responded. Last question, I compared the PRODUCTION USER CAT against my TEST USER CAT and I noticed in the LISTCAT of the PRODUCTION verison it had the TEMP-EXP but it did not show in the LISTCAT of my TEST USER CAT. Should there be reason for concern? David Andrews [EMAIL

Re: Excel Question

2007-12-05 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ed. Benoit wrote: Any Excel List that I can ask these questions? I have some email addresses in a WORD document separated by commas and I would like to get them in a EXCEL document in the first column. Copy paste do not work because Excel will spread them out to all columns. (1) Is there a

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