Paul,
That's a start. What I am envisioning as an end result would be considered a
poor man's ChangeMan, SysChange, whatever devoted to the SYSRES, IODF, cloned
volume set(s).
Bob
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Paul
Been running a pair of IBM 9393 RVA Storage Subsystems since the late 1990s
and they have been great; RAID-6, paid for, depreciated to $0 (not really, we
are the US Gov't), and they work. We use them for testing, systems builds,
etc, and nothing critical. It was getting a bit pricey to have
Jim Marshall pisze:
Been running a pair of IBM 9393 RVA Storage Subsystems since the late 1990s
and they have been great; RAID-6, paid for, depreciated to $0 (not really, we
are the US Gov't), and they work. We use them for testing, systems builds,
etc, and nothing critical. It was getting a
Hi
there some samples how to create jobs to define alias or create
connect ucat with vbscript if you not use edit macros.
run LISTC CAT(CATALOG.MVSICFM.VZOSYYY) UCAT ALL and transfer
the output to your pc as ucat.txt.change pfadout to your choice.
Started up Firefox this morning, and it attempted to pick up from where
it was yesterday when I shutdown. And I get this (based on this URL
www03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/)
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/ on this
server.
---
Any one else have
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[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:37 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: z/OS Online Library -- Armonk, You have a problem
Started up Firefox this morning, and it
Steve:
You're not alone. I'm getting the same thing trying to access almost
anything below www.ibm.com, such as lookat and manuals under zservers/zos.
Mike Myers
Pitt County Memorial Hospital
Thompson, Steve wrote:
Started up Firefox this morning, and it attempted to pick up from where
it
Yes. I can't get to IBMLink or any z/OS related pages either on I/E.
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Behalf Of Thompson, Steve
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:37 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: z/OS Online Library --
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Dennis Trojak
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:45 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/OS Online Library -- Armonk, You have a problem
Yes. I can't get to IBMLink or any z/OS
On Firefox 3.5.6 under Windows/XP Pro, just now, I can get to:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves
http://www.ibm.com/us/en/
http://www.ibm.com/ibmlink/link2
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Systems Engineer IV
IT
Administrative Services Group
HealthMarkets(r)
9151 Boulevard 26 * N.
- Original Message -
From: Jim Marshall jim.marsh...@opm.gov
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:37 AM
Subject: IBM 9393 RVAs Obsolete for Sure
Been running a pair of IBM 9393 RVA Storage Subsystems since the late
1990s
and they have been great;
R.S. wrote:
BTW: I think your current maintenance fee is enough high to BUY more
contemporary DASD array on second hand market. With 1 year warranty. I
bet the maint fee for two months would be enough.
Don't take it personally, but this is good example how to waste money.
And, modern DASD is
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:05:13 +0100, R.S. wrote:
BTW: I think your current maintenance fee is enough high to BUY more
contemporary DASD array on second hand market. With 1 year warranty. I
bet the maint fee for two months would be enough.
Don't take it personally, but this is good example how to
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:05:13 +0100, R.S. wrote:
BTW: I think your current maintenance fee is enough high to BUY more
contemporary DASD array on second hand market. With 1 year warranty. I
bet the maint fee for two months would be enough.
Don't take it personally, but this
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 11:12 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: IBM 9393 RVAs Obsolete for Sure
snip
Do you imagine the US government is the only
Since it is the government, the normal course of action would be to
get a special bid from IBM to continue to maintain them at 10x the
cost of buying new.
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:05:13 +0100, R.S. wrote:
BTW: I think
When I worked for the state government about a million years ago, the
*last* thing we ever wanted to do was to put out a RFP for new purchased
equipment. Because we had a competitive bidding process, we couldn't
just do a make-and-model RFP -- we had to write general specifications
for what we
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:00 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: IBM 9393 RVAs Obsolete for Sure
When I worked for the state government about a million
Jim's question was simple. Other than IBM and SUN/STK, who services RVAs these
days?
Twenty-five years ago, I worked for Sorbus and they were the largest 3rd party
maintenance provider of IBM equipment. They were bought and renamed by Bell
Atlantic into, I think, Bell Atlantic Business
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:09:41 -0600, McKown, John wrote:
Back around 1978, I worked for the City of Ft. Worth (Texas).
We had a 145 and needed an upgrade to a 158 type box. Tandem
bid their non-compatible machine. Of course, it did not meet the
RFP. When we got an Itel (NAS) 158 equivalent,
- Original Message -
From: Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: IBM 9393 RVAs Obsolete for Sure
Jim's question was simple. Other than IBM and SUN/STK, who services RVAs
these days?
When I worked for a state government, we swapped out a 165 of-some-kind for a
168 MP. The credit for the returned hardware went into a state-wide general
funds account, and we immediately were over budget.
The same folks approved one 3350, when they came only in pairs, if long-term
memory
Hi folks,
is the dead zone above the bar gone for all (no longer protected) or just asids
with IARV64 and USE2GTO32G=YES.
Regards and happy new year
Roland
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On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 2:50 PM, David Purdy dpurd...@aol.com wrote:
The same folks approved one 3350, when they came only in pairs, if
long-term memory serves. (Okay, the request could have been more
precise)
Right, should have requested one 6700 instead... :-)
Roland Schiradin wrote:
is the dead zone above the bar gone for all (no longer protected) or just asids
with IARV64 and USE2GTO32G=YES.
Only the latter case...
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Phoenix Software International, Inc
831 Parkview Drive North
El Segundo, CA 90245
310-338-0400 x318
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 2:31 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: dead zone
Roland Schiradin wrote:
is the dead zone above the bar gone for all (no
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:30:55 -0800, Edward Jaffe
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote:
Roland Schiradin wrote:
is the dead zone above the bar gone for all (no longer protected) or just
asids
with IARV64 and USE2GTO32G=YES.
Only the latter case...
I recall a session / slides at SHARE in Denver
If you're not having DASD
performance issues, than the RVA is a great device.
If you can afford it!
I've always been a big fan of virtual architecture, and it's now making a
comeback of sorts with space efficient FlashCopy.
Technology, while great, is not the only reason for replacing.
I'd
McKown, John wrote:
I found that parameter in the IARV64 macro. But I don't see anywhere that it is
documented. I would guess from the question and answer, that it enables getting
64-bit storage in the 0x8000 to 0x address range?
I'm not sure I would refer to
SuperC may be able to help. It will require a listing of all data sets on a
volume and then generation of appropriate JCL and control cards. In rare
cases identical hash sums can be generated, but certainly any differences
point out changed data sets.
From the manual (See Appendix A in ISPF
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:10 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: dead zone
McKown, John wrote:
I found that parameter in the IARV64 macro. But I don't
McKown, John wrote:
I see why it is not, technically, 64 bit storage. But the program must be
AMODE(64) in order to address it. right?
Good point! The storage is not accessible to 31-bit programs. There is
no 32-bit mode!
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Edward E Jaffe
Phoenix Software International, Inc
831
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:20:25 -0600 McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
: -Original Message-
: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
: [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
: Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 3:10 PM
: To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
: Subject: Re:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:20:25 -0600, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
I see why it is not, technically, 64 bit storage.
It's 32-bit storage.
But the program must be AMODE(64) in order to address it. right?
I suppose (along with the supporting code / PTFs / bit in the RCE
I think the session you are referring to was Bob Rogers', maybe the goody bag?
Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com 12/30/09 4:45 PM
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:20:25 -0600, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
I see why it is not, technically, 64 bit storage.
It's 32-bit storage.
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:50:43 -0500, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote:
I think the session you are referring to was Bob Rogers', maybe the goody bag?
Checked that one. Also checked opening / hot topics for MVS, EWCP and
John Eells's z/OS 1.11 presentation. There was a Java update
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:45:53 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:20:25 -0600, McKown, John wrote:
I see why it is not, technically, 64 bit storage.
It's 32-bit storage.
What do you mean by that, Mark?
AFAIK, when someone refers to storage as 64-bit, they are speaking of the
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:34:42 -0600, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com
wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:45:53 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:20:25 -0600, McKown, John wrote:
I see why it is not, technically, 64 bit storage.
It's 32-bit storage.
What do you mean by that,
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:13:13 -0500, Don Imbriale wrote:
From the manual (See Appendix A in ISPF User's Guide Vol. II.):
SuperC can generate a 32-bit hash sum per data set or member ...
32? That's _so_ 20th century. Why not use ICSF/CSNBOWH SHA-1
capability if available. Might even perform
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:38:01 -0600, McKown, John wrote:
Roland Schiradin wrote:
with IARV64 and USE2GTO32G=YES.
I found that parameter in the IARV64 macro. But I don't see anywhere that it
is documented. I would guess from the question and answer, that it enables
getting 64-bit storage in
Hi John,
I tried all three sites from IE7 and had no problems getting to all of them and
signing in to IBMLINK.
Linda Mooney
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From: John McKown john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 6:51:06 AM GMT -08:00
In a3a2b85f0912221304l416edbc5u5391598cb21fc...@mail.gmail.com, on
12/22/2009
at 04:04 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
TSO RENAME is in any case IDCAMS RENAME.
TSO RENAME does a little bit of work before passing the RENAME request on
to normal IDCAMS code. The most visible external
In 4b368dfb.6070...@trainersfriend.com, on 12/26/2009
at 03:28 PM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said:
Actually, the linkage you describe is only 'standard' for a
subroutine.
Part of the design of OS/360 is that a main program is just another
subroutine, except that it must accept
In 632703.89644...@web82206.mail.mud.yahoo.com, on 12/21/2009
at 12:34 PM, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net said:
It was also a tank before the M1 Abrams.
Yes, but there was an M1 rifle before there was an M1 tank ;-)
I suspect that M1 and M60 are not the only numbers that the US Army
In 4b2fd0a7.4060...@ync.net, on 12/21/2009
at 01:46 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net said:
Aren't the 155/a55 II/158 group the same basic processor, within that
group? And aren't the 165/165 II/168 group also the same basic
processor, within that group?
The microinstruction architecture
In 3d02e8610514c04f991cf832ba154c660fdc0...@ukslms11.ca.com, on
12/29/2009
at 11:42 AM, Dell'Anno, Aurora aurora.della...@ca.com said:
Just to clarify, and chip in with my 0.002c's worth, MSM uses
standard SMP/E - SMP/E itself was designed (by some sadistic person)
I could go on at length
In listserv%200912291128236561.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 12/29/2009
at 11:28 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Wouldn't it have been glorious if the original definition of 6-bit BCD
had specified lower case alphabetics _instead_of_ upper case?
Plus a change, plus c'est la mme chose.
In 4b338c4f.4060...@custserv.com, on 12/24/2009
at 10:44 AM, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com said:
I don't have any philosophical objections making day to day work easier,
in fact that's one of my main goals in my professional career. The
problem with all these gee-whiz tools is that
In listserv%200912230934490052.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 12/23/2009
at 09:34 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Users repeatedly send me Hummingbird screen snapshots as JPEGs, claiming
it's all they can do.
Usders repeatedly tell me that various software can't do things that I
have
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005bde01...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on
12/24/2009
at 09:57 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
The entire point of IT and automation is to remove the need for
non-vendor companies to have any technical expertise.
No, the point is to save time
In
b282be35b5a4494894d4ecfba2bf784715a26b6...@xch-nw-17v.nw.nos.boeing.com,
on 12/21/2009
at 11:18 AM, Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com said:
It was called CA-Activator.
Google for Haddock's Eyes. Its *name* was CA-Activator; it was called
aggrevator and possibly other names less
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005bde01...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on
12/23/2009
at 10:06 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
So, what would people think about being able to put a quota on JES2 SPOOL
space by userid?
Do you have management buy-in?
--
Shmuel (Seymour
In 4e2421a40912270056n1de91c8ct5847418ed6a50...@mail.gmail.com, on
12/27/2009
at 08:56 AM, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net said:
A C/C++ program will recieve parms as passed (subject to the
PLIST(OS|HOST) setting) and will not change the case of the passed
parameters.
What about argv[0]? The OP
On Wed, 2009-12-30 at 16:19 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In 4e2421a40912270056n1de91c8ct5847418ed6a50...@mail.gmail.com, on
12/27/2009
at 08:56 AM, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net said:
A C/C++ program will recieve parms as passed (subject to the
PLIST(OS|HOST) setting) and will not
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:20:02 -0600, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com
wrote:
-snip-
Be open to change. Adapt or become extinct. Unfortunately, it's probably
too late for the mainframe already, but at least there are some out there
who believe it isn't and are trying to change it regardless.
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In 632703.89644...@web82206.mail.mud.yahoo.com, on 12/21/2009
at 12:34 PM, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net said:
It was also a tank before the M1 Abrams.
Yes, but there was an M1 rifle before there was an M1 tank ;-)
I suspect that M1 and M60
In any case, I'm pretty sure it was one of Bob's, you could always email him.
Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com 12/30/09 5:09 PM
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:50:43 -0500, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote:
I think the session you are referring to was Bob Rogers', maybe the goody bag?
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:19:25 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In 4e2421a40912270056n1de91c8ct5847418ed6a50...@mail.gmail.com, on
12/27/2009
at 08:56 AM, Sam Siegel said:
A C/C++ program will recieve parms as passed (subject to the
PLIST(OS|HOST) setting) and will not change the case of
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:58:33 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In a3a2b85f0912221304l416edbc5u5391598cb21fc...@mail.gmail.com, on
12/22/2009
at 04:04 PM, Tony Harminc said:
TSO RENAME is in any case IDCAMS RENAME.
TSO RENAME does a little bit of work before passing the RENAME request on
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:48:38 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In listserv%200912291128236561.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 12/29/2009
at 11:28 AM, Paul Gilmartin said:
Wouldn't it have been glorious if the original definition of 6-bit BCD
had specified lower case alphabetics _instead_of_ upper
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:09:13 -0600, John McKown wrote:
I think that in this case, batch means invoked via a JCL EXEC PGM=. I
hope it doesn't mean when invoked via BPXBATCH as a UNIX process. But,
then, you can't do a
//STEPNAME EXEC PGM=lcpgm
//STEPLIB DD PATH='/path/to/my/bin/directory'
//
Is
Frank et al,
I'm running a simple DFSORT job in which I want to extract an ID
number from the first record in a file. I'm using STARTREC=1,ENDREC=1
to do that. But DFSORT insists on reading the entire input file even
despite the ENDREC value. This happens for values other than ENDREC=1, too.
It may be difficult to locate a third-party maintenance provider that will
service these considering StorageTek's attempts to block vendors from doing
so under DMCA.
http://lawgeek.typepad.com/lawgeek/2004/07/dmca_hammer_com.html
In this particular case, the suit involved maintenance on a
Mark Zelden wrote:
Checked that one. Also checked opening / hot topics for MVS, EWCP and
John Eells's z/OS 1.11 presentation. There was a Java update session,
but I wasn't at it. Nor is the presentation on the SHARE web site.
Could it have been a presentation you saw at zBLC?
--
Edward
TSO RENAME uses the LOCATE, RENAME, CATALOG, and CAMLST macros
itself, to rename a dataset. It does not pass anything to IDCAMS or any
other program. These macros are described in DFSMSdfp Advanced
Services, and were around before IDCAMS.
TSO RENAME can also create an alias of a PDS member,
In listserv%200912301326557815.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 12/30/2009
at 01:26 PM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com said:
There was also a bid from Burroughs,
I believe that Wayne had some other issues with Burroughs. Wasn't there a
B1700 system that they were less than pleased with?
BTW,
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005bde01...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on
12/30/2009
at 01:09 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
Too true. Back around 1978, I worked for the City of Ft. Worth (Texas).
We had a 145 and needed an upgrade to a 158 type box. Tandem bid their
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