Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread J R
If the existing program does a reset, it probably rewrites the directory and resets the LSTAR to make it look empty. This would be very efficient. If there are many members, any method, even in assembler, that deletes members one at a time, will potentially suck performace-wise.

Re: QUESTION ABOUT STOPX-37 - MAINVIEW SRM

2010-06-24 Thread Richards, Robert B.
STOP-X37 was originally from Empact Software in Georgia. They sold it to Boole and Babbage, now part of BMC. It does not do allocation...that is Mainview SRM, IIRC. SAMS:Allocate was originally from Sterling Software prior to their acquisition by CA in 2000. It was incorporated in to CA's

Re: Disk replacing Tape?

2010-06-24 Thread Jim Marshall
Schwarz, Barry A pisze: Doesn't anyone exercise the DR plan anymore? If so, without reading the backups? Of course we do! Does anyone use PTAM for DR? Really? We use remoted copy for DR. We don't need to recover anything from tape, because we have all the data on DASD. Oh, we do have tapes

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread John P Kalinich
File 182 on your CBT dial. The PDS command. Regards, John K gsg of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote: Does anyone know of a way to delete all of the members of a PDS which is allocated by job scheduler software? We currently use an assembler program that

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated but management wants us to not use assembler.

Re: MSM R3 Deploy (was Re: CA's MSM)

2010-06-24 Thread Dell'Anno, Aurora
Mark, Yes please do contact our support team - we are VERY interested in helping out our customers on serious issues like this. Thanks. Aurora Aurora Emanuela Dell'Anno CA Technologies - MSC Sr. Engineering Services Architect Tel: +44 (0)1753 577 733 Mobile: +44 (0)7768 235 339

Re: Geographic separation of primary and backup/DR sites

2010-06-24 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
Also remember if DR is fairly close to base make sure they are on separate power grids or at least have generators. That is such a nebulous term, power grid. Anyone have more definite references for what that should mean? Does it just mean separate power substations? That the ultimate feed

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:01:57 -0500, gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks Lizette. We don't have PDSMAN or SAS. I know how to spell REXX and play around a little, but probably can't write a routine that will give me the results that I want. Is PDSMAN similar to Startools? We do have that

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Management assigns tasks, NOT how-to! Maybe where YOU live. Correction: GOOD Management assigns tasks, NOT how-to! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread Terri E Shaffer
You also do a 3.4 and enter S * DEL on the command line to delete everything. Thanks Ms. Terri E. Shaffer terri.e.shaf...@jpmchase.com Engineer J.P.Morgan Chase Co. GTI DCT ECS Core Services zSoftware Group / Emerging Technologies Office: # 614-213-3467 Cell: # 412-519-2592

Re: Geographic separation of primary and backup/DR sites

2010-06-24 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Jeffrey Deaver jeffrey.dea...@securian.com wrote in message news:ofb0fd8a87.24e5216d-on8625774c.00463f1b-8625774c.00474...@securian .com... Also remember if DR is fairly close to base make sure they are on separate power grids or at least have generators. That is such a nebulous term, power

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread Jousma, David
Thanks Terri! Just tried it. Didn't know about that one. Dave _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB1G p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.8497

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread Klein, Kevin
Glad to see the correction. I thought we had another one of those Canada/U.S. translation issues. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re:

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread Howard Brazee
On 23 Jun 2010 17:39:54 -0700, gsg_...@yahoo.com (gsg) wrote: Does anyone know of a way to delete all of the members of a PDS which is allocated by job scheduler software? We currently use an assembler program that does a reset(I think), but management wants us to not use assembler. I know

Re: Geographic separation of primary and backup/DR sites

2010-06-24 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Deaver Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Geographic separation of primary and backup/DR sites Also remember if DR is fairly close to base

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread Victor Gil
/* REXX */ /* from http://www.mainframesupport.dk/tips/tip0344.html */ /* DELETE ALL MEMBERS OF A GIVEN LIBRARY DSN */ TRACE 'N' /* TRACE 'R' */

Re: Geographic separation of primary and backup/DR sites

2010-06-24 Thread Kelman, Tom
I would say that at a minimum you would want to be on separate power substations. Your power company should be able to provide this service, although they might charge extra for it. Most large IT organizations feel it's worth it. However, because of the interconnectivity in the U.S. and

Re: Geographic separation of primary and backup/DR sites

2010-06-24 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
Also remember if DR is fairly close to base make sure they are on separate power grids or at least have generators. That is such a nebulous term, power grid. Anyone have more definite references for what that should mean? While I'm sure this is not comprehensive, this Blackout

Re: Geographic separation of primary and backup/DR sites

2010-06-24 Thread Kelman, Tom
Kees, I do agree with you. See my post on massive power outages that have occurred around the world. The only save plan is to have a backup for the backup. You need to have a DR site on a separate power sub-station from your main site along with a UPS and generator backup. Having alternate,

Re: MSM R3 Deploy (was Re: CA's MSM)

2010-06-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:51:11 -0500, Mark Zelden mzel...@flash.net wrote: BTW, I just upgraded from R2 to R3 over the weekend mostly because I was interested in the deployment function (but there are some other nice features also). In trying to test a deployment, it looks like it will only work

Re: Disk replacing Tape?

2010-06-24 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
SanDisk's SD card can store data for 100 years http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9178428/SanDisk_s_SD_card_can_store_data_for_100_years from above: The WORM (write once, read many) card is tamper proof and data cannot be altered or deleted, SanDisk said in a statement. The card is designed

Re: Do we need to apply this USERMOD (EDGUX100) for RMM when we migrate z/OS from 1.9 to 1.11

2010-06-24 Thread Greg Shirey
Well, you *could* just modify the FMID and apply the usermod, but you should probably look at the DFSMSrmm Implementation and Customization guide for 1.11 and evaluate the new information. The sample exit code and the supplied JCL to receive and apply the exit has been changed. Here's a link

Re: Disk replacing Tape?

2010-06-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 890694.35414...@web54605.mail.re2.yahoo.com, on 06/20/2010 at 04:20 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said: From my (admittedly dated) perspective, until the ability to share disk drives (transparently) I do not see the use of tape really decreasing all that much. What are you using tape for?

Re: Disk replacing Tape?

2010-06-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
Tim, On some non IBM products it's part of provisioning a LUN and managing it as part of a Tiered Storage strategy, bet it virtualized for CKD or FBA. A little more sophisticated then manually flicking the write protect switch. Of course none of the implicit write protection applies when the

Re: Geographic separation of primary and backup/DR sites

2010-06-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
Just be glad you don't have to deal with brown outs. A common occurrence in the Philippines. There are times when the power company simply turns off the supply to rural districts when they have trouble meeting peak demands. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Geographic separation of primary and backup/DR sites

2010-06-24 Thread Richard Peurifoy
On 6/24/2010 9:06 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: Doesn't this simply means your task is to take care that your diesel tanks are full (and large enough)? All the other options seem non-transparant and non-controllable. We had a power failure once that looked like it might last several days.

Re: Disk replacing Tape?

2010-06-24 Thread Hal Merritt
I seemed to recall hearing that exact same claim for optical media (microfiche, CD, DVD) :-) And we all know that sales/marketing never lie or even exaggerate :-) But what about the support infrastructure? Will Windows 107 support the devices needed to support this media? -Original

Re: Geographic separation of primary and backup/DR sites

2010-06-24 Thread Hal Merritt
During the aftermath of Hurricane Ike, there was no supplier within a hundred miles or so with the ability to deliver fuel. Some had no power, some were flooded, some had no truck drivers. We muddled through due mostly to some heroic actions on our part. FEMA contracted with local suppliers

Re: Disk replacing Tape?

2010-06-24 Thread Steve Comstock
Hal Merritt wrote: I seemed to recall hearing that exact same claim for optical media (microfiche, CD, DVD) :-) And we all know that sales/marketing never lie or even exaggerate :-) But what about the support infrastructure? Will Windows 107 support the devices needed to support this media?

Re: Geographic separation of primary and backup/DR sites

2010-06-24 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/24/2010 11:48:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time, hmerr...@jackhenry.com writes: FEMA contracted with local suppliers for forklifts that included service and fuel. Some used gasoline, some diesel, some propane. No fuel was ever delivered as far as I know My big idea was

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread Howard Brazee
On 24 Jun 2010 07:00:44 -0700, terri.e.shaf...@jpmchase.com (Terri E Shaffer) wrote: You also do a 3.4 and enter S * DEL on the command line to delete everything. Interesting. I entered HELP there and got: HELP NOT AVAILABLE+ LIST OF COMMANDS NOT FOUND How can I get a list of

Re: Geographic separation of primary and backup/DR sites

2010-06-24 Thread Howard Brazee
On 24 Jun 2010 07:37:22 -0700, thomas.kel...@commercebank.com (Kelman, Tom) wrote: With massive outages like this both your main site and your DR site would probably be affected unless they are on opposite sides of the world, or the DR site is on the moon. Shouldn't a shop that has backup sites

Re: Disk replacing Tape?

2010-06-24 Thread Mullen, Patrick
On the plus side, I hear they are offering a money back guarantee if the media should fail after 99 years. As long as the purchaser requests it in person, and provides the original purchase receipt and packaging... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread Steve Comstock
Howard Brazee wrote: On 24 Jun 2010 07:00:44 -0700, terri.e.shaf...@jpmchase.com (Terri E Shaffer) wrote: You also do a 3.4 and enter S * DEL on the command line to delete everything. Interesting. I entered HELP there and got: HELP NOT AVAILABLE+ LIST OF COMMANDS NOT FOUND

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread Howard Brazee
On 24 Jun 2010 10:30:24 -0700, st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) wrote: Howard Brazee wrote: On 24 Jun 2010 07:00:44 -0700, terri.e.shaf...@jpmchase.com (Terri E Shaffer) wrote: You also do a 3.4 and enter S * DEL on the command line to delete everything. Interesting. I

instream data

2010-06-24 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Now that we've been on z/OS for a few weeks I feel to need to ask a question that has annoyed me since I started working on z/OS two years ago. Instream datasets are good. Why are they not supported inside of procs? Is there a technical reason, or is it just because? We use procs for almost

Re: instream data

2010-06-24 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 06/24/10 13:59, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Now that we've been on z/OS for a few weeks I feel to need to ask a question that has annoyed me since I started working on z/OS two years ago. Instream datasets are good. Why are they not supported inside of procs? Is there a technical reason, or

Re: instream data

2010-06-24 Thread Howard Brazee
On 24 Jun 2010 11:09:39 -0700, mark.jac...@custserv.com (Mark Jacobs) wrote: On 06/24/10 13:59, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Now that we've been on z/OS for a few weeks I feel to need to ask a question that has annoyed me since I started working on z/OS two years ago. Instream datasets are good.

Re: instream data

2010-06-24 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: instream data Now that we've been on z/OS for a few weeks I feel to need to ask a question

Re: instream data

2010-06-24 Thread Chris Mason
Frank You'll be wanting symbol substitution in the instream data next! That actually was I wanted to help me manage for my test/education systems where I did a great deal of work at the (VM) console. I just wanted to be able to set up started task procedures in order to do all sorts of

Re: instream data

2010-06-24 Thread Steve Comstock
Mark Jacobs wrote: On 06/24/10 13:59, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Now that we've been on z/OS for a few weeks I feel to need to ask a question that has annoyed me since I started working on z/OS two years ago. Instream datasets are good. Why are they not supported inside of procs? Is there a

Re: instream data

2010-06-24 Thread Gibney, Dave
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: instream data Now that we've been on z/OS for a few weeks I feel to need to ask a question

Re: instream data

2010-06-24 Thread Steve Comstock
Frank Swarbrick wrote: Now that we've been on z/OS for a few weeks I feel to need to ask a question that has annoyed me since I started working on z/OS two years ago. Instream datasets are good. Why are they not supported inside of procs? Is there a technical reason, or is it just because?

Re: instream data

2010-06-24 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: instream data SNIPPAGE That has been a restriction since the dawn of OS/360. In that case, I think it

Re: instream data

2010-06-24 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Steve, That is, in fact, exactly what we have: //PROC DDAR02 PARMENV=PROD.APPLIB //SORT EXEC PGM=SORT //DFSPARM DD DSN=PARMENV..PARM(DDAR021), //DISP=SHR I simply would prefer to see: //PROC DDAR02 //SORT EXEC PGM=SORT //DFSPARM DD * SORT

Re: instream data

2010-06-24 Thread Howard Brazee
On 24 Jun 2010 13:13:25 -0700, frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com (Frank Swarbrick) wrote: //PROC DDAR02 //SORT EXEC PGM=SORT //DFSPARM DD * SORT FIELDS=(1,10,PD,A, 13,4,PD,A, 17,4,PD,A, 11,2,PD,A), EQUALS Someone

Re: instream data

2010-06-24 Thread Frank Swarbrick
No idea. I have not been on MVS for decades. On 6/24/2010 at 2:43 PM, in message opg726pc9c7v80nvstalto1d1c7b3o7...@4ax.com, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.edu wrote: On 24 Jun 2010 13:13:25 -0700, frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com (Frank Swarbrick) wrote: //PROC DDAR02 //SORT EXEC

Re: Geographic separation of primary and backup/DR sites

2010-06-24 Thread Rick Fochtman
Don't forget: seperate Telco exchanges. Rick Ward, Mike S wrote: Also remember if DR is fairly close to base make sure they are on separate power grids or at least have generators. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip If the existing program does a reset, it probably rewrites the directory and resets the LSTAR to make it look empty. This would be very efficient. If there are many members, any method, even in assembler, that deletes

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-24 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip--- but management wants us to not use assembler. I'm sorry, but I have to chime in. If your staff knows how to use a tool, why should management care? Management assigns tasks, NOT how-to! - Too busy driving

Re: Disk replacing Tape?

2010-06-24 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip-- I seemed to recall hearing that exact same claim for optical media (microfiche, CD, DVD) :-) And we all know that sales/marketing never lie or even exaggerate :-) But what about the support infrastructure? Will Windows 107

Re: instream data

2010-06-24 Thread Steve Comstock
Frank Swarbrick wrote: Steve, That is, in fact, exactly what we have: //PROC DDAR02 PARMENV=PROD.APPLIB //SORT EXEC PGM=SORT //DFSPARM DD DSN=PARMENV..PARM(DDAR021), //DISP=SHR I simply would prefer to see: //PROC DDAR02 //SORT EXEC PGM=SORT

Re: instream data

2010-06-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:43:06 -0600, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.edu wrote: On 24 Jun 2010 13:13:25 -0700, frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com (Frank Swarbrick) wrote: //PROC DDAR02 //SORT EXEC PGM=SORT //DFSPARM DD * SORT FIELDS=(1,10,PD,A, 13,4,PD,A,

Fwd: prob

2010-06-24 Thread larry macioce
I am trying to place my current IODF onto a COD 1.9 system pack. The doc states if you want to use your current IODF to copy it to the same pack as the load member. The problem is I am getting an ADR468e. I looked the error up and did use the process(sys1) parm, but I don’t want to rename

Re: IODF COPY problem

2010-06-24 Thread Starr, Alan
Mace, I'm not completely sure that I understand what it is that you are trying to do. Here's my guess: You are creating a new MCAT/IODF volume for a new release of the operating system. This new volume contains a new MCAT and you are attempting to copy your existing IODF to this volume with

Re: instream data

2010-06-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:37:50 -0500, Chris Mason wrote: You'll be wanting symbol substitution in the instream data next! Me, too! When I do an SMP/E zone definition (assuming I'm still allowed to) I'd cherish being able to define several symbols with JCL SET statements, they apply them in JCL DD

Re: Disk replacing Tape?

2010-06-24 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 06/23/2010 02:56 AM, R.S. wrote: Schwarz, Barry A pisze: Doesn't anyone exercise the DR plan anymore? If so, without reading the backups? Of course we do! Does anyone use PTAM for DR? Really? We use remoted copy for DR. We don't need to recover anything from tape, because we have all

IPCS subcommand IGWVIPCS

2010-06-24 Thread he_ming
Hi, Where is the IGWVIPCS? I input it in IPCS command but no panel show. Best regards, He Ming(贺 明) Mobile: 1392-500-5956,

Re: IPCS subcommand IGWVIPCS

2010-06-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
Do you have all of your IPCS datasets in the LOGON proc? SYS1.SBLSPNL0 on ISPPLIB for example? Lizette Hi, Where is the IGWVIPCS? I input it in IPCS command but no panel show. Best regards, He Ming(贺 明) Mobile: 1392-500-5956,

WLM question that I'm afraid I know the answer to

2010-06-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Hello list, Is there any way to force a job to swap out, even if the computer has lots of spare CPU cycles? I think the answer is no, but thought it was worth asking. We are having major slowdown problems trying to run disk-based cloning of Oracle databases on a DMX-4 that is being shared with

WLM question that I'm afraid I know the answer to

2010-06-24 Thread Gerhard Adam
Yes, just QUIESCE the job. Adam -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: WLM question that I'm afraid I know the answer to

2010-06-24 Thread Norman Hollander on DesertWiz
QUIESCE the task will work, if it is swappable. If non-swappable, create a ServiceClass (such as SWAPOUT) that points to a Resource Group (such as RG_SWAP) with a maximum of ZERO Service Units specified. Then reset the task's SRVCLASS to SWAPOUT. znor...@desertwiz.biz -Original