Re: What SMF record types and formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 01e401ccb3ab$38edcd70$aac96850$@mcn.org, on 12/05/2011 at 04:08 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: I have a CA support ID. The record layout specifics do not seem to be in the ACF2 documentation. Do you have MXG? That might be able to handle the ACF2 records. -- Shmuel

Re: What SMF record types an formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Dale Miller
John McKown wrote: With Z/OS, Windows, and Mac OSX, I don't even have a change to understand some of the internals. Read Mac OS X Internals by Amit Singh- Addison-Wesley 2007. Also the source code for Darwin (OS/X) is downloadable from Apple. Not to defend Apple, but it is interesting to

Re: ROOT file system is out space

2011-12-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4edd3dab.5070...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 12/05/2011 at 10:54 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said: Why do you think so? Because it's a ticking time bomb. But it's not my dog. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: ROOT file system is out space

2011-12-06 Thread John McKown
Total agreement. Updating the running system is dangerous. I did so once by mistake (luckily it was my sandbox). I suffered an outage because an update to a LINKLIB module required a corresponding update to an LPALIB module. When somebody did an LLA REFRESH, the system died. I don't know if this

Re: What SMF record types an formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 01:47 -0800, Dale Miller wrote: John McKown wrote: With Z/OS, Windows, and Mac OSX, I don't even have a change to understand some of the internals. Read Mac OS X Internals by Amit Singh- Addison-Wesley 2007. Also the source code for Darwin (OS/X) is downloadable

Re: Ziip on Z9 BC running on z/OS 1.9

2011-12-06 Thread John McKown
Every LPAR on your z9BC has a profile which defines it's resources. Such as how much memory it has and the number of CPs it can use. Another of the resources is how many zIIP engines it can use (likewise for zAAP engines). You need to edit the LPAR definition to include zIIP engines. This is done

Re: What SMF record types and formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread John McKown
CA-SORT is still available. I don't think there are many external users. CA may use it internally in some of their products to be independent of the differences in DFSORT vs. SyncSort. On Mon, 2011-12-05 at 21:00 -0800, Ed Gould wrote: Charles: I worded that poorly and agree with you.

Re: What SMF record types and formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1323135832.44917.yahoomailmob...@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, on 12/05/2011 at 05:43 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said: Well IBM does this in their freely available SMF records layout manual. I seem to recall IBM products where the documentation of the product's SMF records was in an

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Mason
Scott - I assume ... TCP/IP stack came from for use in z/OS ... Did it originate from the University of Berkley? You will get a more comprehensive answer by asking on the following list: For IBMTCP-L subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu

Re: What SMF record types an formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Shane
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 04:53:55 -0600 John McKown wrote: I don't like using undocumented internals. That's why I like GNU/Linux. OK, it's not really documented. Unless you go with source==documentation. Lol - have a look at the mm code John. It'll drive you to drink. Has me - several times. Then,

Time and Priority value clarification

2011-12-06 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hello All, In our shop whenever a user job is submitted by default the priority value is taken as 9. When I check the CPAC.PARMLIB(JES2PARM) below is the customization which talks more about the PRTY and TIME JOBPRTY(1) PRIORITY=9, /* Job Prty=9 if RPRI1 ohwnc*/ TIME=2

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Bob Shannon
I believe that the TCP/IP for VM product which was ported to become the TCP/IP for MVS product which became incorporated into the Communications Server product as the IP component follows what is described as the Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD flavour of an implementation of the Internet

Re: ALET=2

2011-12-06 Thread Peter Relson
Even if it's page fixed? Yes. (in part because which private space is unpredictable, as might be the cross-memory environment). That has been documented forever although not in all the places where it could have been. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design

Re: Time and Priority value clarification

2011-12-06 Thread Mark Jacobs
That JES2 initialization statement has nothing to do with job execution time limits. TIME=nn Specifies execution times (1-279620), in minutes, that are to be associated with job-scheduling priorities, as specified in a corresponding PRIORITY parameter. The keyword here is

Re: Time and Priority value clarification

2011-12-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
In our shop whenever a user job is submitted by default the priority value is taken as 9. When I check the CPAC.PARMLIB(JES2PARM) below is the customization which talks more about the PRTY and TIME JOBPRTY(1) PRIORITY=9, /* Job Prty=9 if RPRI1 ohwnc*/ TIME=2

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Mason
Bob Would you care to supply some evidence for your contention? I find no trace of such an upheaval in the z/OS V1R5 Communications Server IP Migration and Exploitation manual: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B130/ On the other hand, while there are still

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Bob Shannon
Actually, it was OS/390 1.5, not z/OS 1.5. Too long ago. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP Bob Would

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
svet...@ameritech.net (scott) writes: Just was wondering where TCP/IP stack came from for use in z/OS? Did it originate from the University of Berkley? I hadn't followed the recent. The original mainframe tcp/ip stack product was implemented on vm370 in (mainframe) vs/pascal ... purely IBM

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Richards, Robert B.
LOL! OS/390 TWO dot FIVE (OS/390 2.5 was around 1996 IIRC) Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:30:48 -0500, Richards, Robert B. robert.richa...@opm.gov wrote: LOL! OS/390 TWO dot FIVE (OS/390 2.5 was around 1996 IIRC) Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Tuesday, December

Re: ROOT file system is out space

2011-12-06 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 12/06/2011 04:35 AM, John McKown wrote: Total agreement. Updating the running system is dangerous. I did so once by mistake (luckily it was my sandbox). I suffered an outage because an update to a LINKLIB module required a corresponding update to an LPALIB module. When somebody did an LLA

Re: ROOT file system is out space

2011-12-06 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-12-06 11:35, John McKown pisze: Total agreement. Updating the running system is dangerous. I did so once by mistake (luckily it was my sandbox). I suffered an outage because an update to a LINKLIB module required a corresponding update to an LPALIB module. When somebody did an LLA

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Mason
Bob Actually, it was OS/390 1.5, not z/OS 1.5. Too long ago. Not too long ago for the IBM manuals web sites! Indeed there was an upheaval in OS/390 V1R5 (VEE ONE AR FIVE) occasioned by the incorporation of OpenEdition function. It may be that - on close reading of what can be gleaned from

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Chris, Thanks for those interesting links. I had not realized that the z/OS Comm. Server implemented some form of VMCF and IUCV. The small amount of RTFM I just did based on your links seems to indicate that the Comm. Server SMSG command is only supported to communicate with SMTP and LPD.

Re: Version Query for Installed Product

2011-12-06 Thread Alan Schenck
A tool I frequently use is PDS on the CBT tape. http://www.cbttape.org/freepds.htm is where you can download it from. If you have to wear a computer forensics hat to figure out what's in your load libraries, PDS does a great job at displaying load module attributes, link-edit dates, and

Re: ROOT file system is out space

2011-12-06 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Not to mention that SMP/E might compress the target library, if you have the option set to do that so it will require an LLA UPDATE. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 5:36 AM To:

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:48:40 -0600, Chris Mason wrote: Indeed there was an upheaval in OS/390 V1R5 (VEE ONE AR FIVE) That's V2R5, as you noted below. The new Communications Server component was introduced in V2R4, but only for Unix applications. IIRC, the CS included VTAM and TCP/IP and they

Re: Time and Priority value clarification

2011-12-06 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hello Jacob/All, That JES2 initialization statement has nothing to do with job execution time limits. TIME=nn Specifies execution times (1-279620), in minutes, that are to be associated with job-scheduling priorities, as specified in a corresponding PRIORITY parameter. Out of

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Mason
Peter I'm very sorry to be disappointing you! Is there any chance that there is a z/OS equivalent of these z/VM commands for the general (non-authorized) user? We're on the down slope, not the up slope! In other words, the direction in the IP component of z/OS Communications Server is to

Re: What SMF record types and formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Charles Mills
that if you contact CA's ACF2 Product Manager directly Does anyone happen to have contact information for that person? You can share it with me privately if you prefer. I think you can see my address above but in case not, c h a r l e s m at mcn dot org. Charles -Original Message-

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Chris, Well, I can't say I'm surprised by your answer, but thanks for your insights anyway. I haven't searched around the web yet (especially the CBT site) for some equivalent facility, but perhaps it's time I did so. Now, where did I put those darned round tuits... :) Peter

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Steve Conway
Peter, Sounds like you want TSO SEND. Do TSO HELP SEND for syntax and usage. Cheers,,,Steve Steven F. Conway, CISSP LA Systems z/OS Systems Support Phone: 703.295.1926 steve_con...@ao.uscourts.gov From: Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date:

Re: Time and Priority value clarification

2011-12-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
jagadishan perumal wrote: We tried Changing the time parmeter as TIME=(5,0) , but still job takes more than 5 mins. Even when user dont code the TIME,PRTY keyword it is even taking more than 5 minutes of processing time for PRTY=9 value. You've got good replies about scheduling priority

Re: IRA103I SQA/ESQA HAS EXPANDED INTO CSA/ECSA BY 510 PAGES

2011-12-06 Thread Chokalingam Thangavelu
Hi, We have IPLed on October 31st 2011 and we have got 3 LPARS and below are the SQA CSA parms in IEASYSXX and current usage as per SYSVIEW. SYSA LPAR'S IEASYSXX PARMS - CSA=(2600,144M) SQA=(7,24M) Current usage - ECSA 68% ESQA 73% SQA 30% CSA 30% SYSD LPAR'S IEASYSXX PARMS -

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#42 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP this talks about bsd 4.3 tahoe (june 1988) and reno (early 1990) distributions ... I've still got original source distribution backed up someplace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution All the BSD stuff

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Mason
Tom That's V2R5 Quite correct, OS/390 V2R5 (VEE TWO AR FIVE) - The new Communications Server component was introduced in V2R4, I don't find this really quite so correct! This appears to refer to some quick fix called the Outboard Communications Server (OCS) which allowed a LAN- or

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Well, I certainly thought of TSO SEND, but it is the WAKEUP part of the process (i.e., the receiving end) that I don't see a way to accomplish. How could a program running in a TSO user's address space wait for and then receive a message sent via TSO SEND? And as an extension of such a

Re: What SMF record types and formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Ed Gould
Seymore, The SMF record layouts ar in a GC manual. This also has DFSORT and a few other PP record layouts. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the

Re: What SMF record types and formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Ed Gould
Robert, Of course I forgot about those, thanks. But you have to have z/os to have the smf dsects. Z/os is not free. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: What SMF record types and formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Barry Merrill
Not all IBM-created SMF records are documented in the SMF Manual. Many only have a reference to their own product manuals; see the 115, 116, 120 WebSphere, 118, and 119 TCP/IP, examples. Other records point to a manual (100, 101, 102, DB2, DB2 Administration Guide) that contains no DSECTS -

Re: Time and Priority value clarification

2011-12-06 Thread Mark Jacobs
Look at your JOBCLASS parameters. Mark Jacobs On 12/06/11 10:42, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hello Jacob/All, That JES2 initialization statement has nothing to do with job execution time limits. TIME=nn Specifies execution times (1-279620), in minutes, that are to be associated

Re: What SMF record types and formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Frank Yaeger
Ed Gould at IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 12/06/2011 09:22:50 AM: The SMF record layouts ar in a GC manual. This also has DFSORT and a few other PP record layouts. Actually, the DFSORT Type 16 SMF records are documented in Appendix D of z/OS DFSORT Installation

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#42 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#43 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP this is post here on ibm-main last april http://www.garli.com/~lynn/2011f.html#29 TCP/IP Available on MVS When? http://www.garli.com/~lynn/2011f.html#30 TCP/IP

Re: What SMF record types and formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Ed Gould
Frank, Interesting. This seems to have changed from last time I looked as I think at one time there was a note in the DFSORT manual as it used to tell the people to look at the SMF manual. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Steve Conway
Hi, Peter. My apologies. I should have read your requirements more carefully, and actually checked what the SMSG(WAKEUP) was all about. Cheers,,,Steve Steven F. Conway, CISSP LA Systems z/OS Systems Support Phone: 703.295.1926 steve_con...@ao.uscourts.gov From: Farley, Peter x23353

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 6. Dec 2011, at 17:05 , Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#42 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP this talks about bsd 4.3 tahoe (june 1988) and reno (early 1990) distributions ... I've still got original source distribution backed up someplace Otherwise you can

AFT (Assured File Transfer) Technology (UNCLASSIFIED)

2011-12-06 Thread Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN
Group, Are there differences in AFT technology by provider? FTP solutions tend to be different by platform. There appears to be a few different Assured File Transfer (AFT) providers. On the ucdmo.gov site (Nov 2011) - The UCDMO Cross-Domain base line lists AFT. On some internet

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
bzeeb-li...@lists.zabbadoz.net (Bjoern A. Zeeb) writes: Otherwise you can probably still get them from a friend or a more complete (source) history from here (for a small fee): http://www.mckusick.com/csrg/index.html re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#42 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

Re: What SMF record types and formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Frank Yaeger
Ed Gould at IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 12/06/2011 10:12:49 AM: Frank, Interesting. This seems to have changed from last time I looked as I think at one time there was a note in the DFSORT manual as it used to tell the people to look at the SMF manual. The

Re: What SMF record types and formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Scott Barry
CA made an end-of-life announced on 23 July 2010 for CA-Sort for z/OS (not with SRAM). Support ends 30 January 2012. Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc. On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 04:38:15 -0600, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: CA-SORT is still available. I don't think there are many external users. CA

Management classes and expiration dates revisited

2011-12-06 Thread Starr, Alan
Back in October, a question was asked about the DF/SMS management class expiration attributes fields. To me, both the ISMF help screen and the manual (DFSMShsm Storage Administration - Specifying expiration attributes in chapter 2) indicate that BOTH expire after days non-usage AND expire after

Re: Management classes and expiration dates revisited

2011-12-06 Thread Hervey Martinez
Hello, I just ran into this on my jcl manual, it's a few years old but I imagine still holds true: With SMS, both the expiration date specified on EXPDT and defined in the data class for an SMS-managed data set can be limited by a maximum expiration date defined in the management class for

AFT (Assured File Transfer) Technology (UNCLASSIFIED)

2011-12-06 Thread Steve Thompson
IBM Sterling Connect:Direct for z/OS is an Assured File Transfer system that makes use of security for the control and data. In the case of z/OS, Connect:Direct for z/OS 5.1 is the IBM release of the Connect:Direct for z/OS 5.0 put out by Sterling Commerce (their last release prior to the IBM

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes: IADMIN ADMINISTRATIVE INFORMATION ORDERING INFORMATION The HONE configuration aid CFPROGS may be used to determine ordering information. The HONE aid SYSLINK may be used to transmit the

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Ed Finnell
It was still pretty buggered up with PASCAL components scattered about, so much so it violated Software Manufacturing's policies and was only orderable as a separate product. In a message dated 12/6/2011 7:46:59 A.M. Central Standard Time, robert.richa...@opm.gov writes: OS/390 TWO dot

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Roger Bolan
Chris, I think you're referring to the Infoprint Server LPD server. See the latest bookshelf for details: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/aopbk380?FS=TRUE --Roger On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: The other major server

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Mason
Ed It was still pretty buggered up with PASCAL components scattered about, ... I believe the position today is the list I included in a post to Peter Farley, which I will post again for your convenience: quote - SMTP and LPD servers - TSO HOMETEST, LPQ, LPR, LPRM, LPRSET, TELNET, and

Help Programming for ISPF Jump

2011-12-06 Thread Chuck Arney
I need some pointers on programming with the ISPF Jump command. I'll provide some background details first to hopefully prevent suggestions for things I have already tried. I am working on an assembler ISPF application that does not use the ISPF Select service nor ZSEL in panel definitions. It

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 58fc7f986fcb804286e23b59decf420f334a1...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com, on 12/06/2011 at 01:00 PM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com said: Actually, it was OS/390 1.5, not z/OS 1.5. Too long ago. There was no OS/390 1.5. OS/390 V2R5 sounds about right, although the old version would

Re: What SMF record types an formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1323168835.12023.172.ca...@mckown5.johnmckown.net, on 12/06/2011 at 04:53 AM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net said: And talk about not guaranteed to stay consistent. Sometime. And sometimes an internal interface is more stable than the API. You pays your money and you takes your chances.

Re: What SMF record types and formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1323192170.29330.yahoomailmob...@web161404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, on 12/06/2011 at 09:22 AM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said: Seymore, That's Seymour! The SMF record layouts ar in a GC manual. Which SMF record layouts? Unless things have changed drastically, they're not all in the SMF

Re: Help Programming for ISPF Jump

2011-12-06 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 12/6/2011 3:28 PM, Chuck Arney wrote: Thanks for any suggestions. isp...@listserv.nd.edu -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/

Re: What SMF record types and formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Ed Gould
Sorry about the spelling. From memory 0,4,5,6,13,14,17,30, paging, look at the manual for a complete list. Although Frank has informed us that the DFSORT was taken out (it was there at one time) the CICS maybe as well. I am not sure if IBM did it because of issues of real or imagined issues.

Re: What SMF record types and formats does ACF2 write?

2011-12-06 Thread Charles Mills
I think it is fairly simple and innocuous. A lot of the Product X record layouts have been moved from the SMF manual to the Product X manuals because it is after all the Product X team that owns the record layouts, not the SMF team. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Time and Priority value clarification

2011-12-06 Thread jagadishan perumal
Thanks Jacob, I took a Look at JC(JOB CLASSES) option from SDSF panel to see the execution time coded on each Classes. This Information will help me in restricting the processing time. Jags On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.comwrote: Look at your JOBCLASS

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Interesting, if I am correct, they took long time to implement a resolver. If so, how were hostnames resolved? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 2:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu