W dniu 2012-01-22 05:21, Joel C. Ewing pisze:
I've said it before, but will say it again: modern tape media has such a
large capacity that a single dfhsm cartridge can contain an incredibly
large number of datasets. It is almost inevitable that loss of a single
dfhsm ML2 or Backup cartridge will
It may perhaps be time to restate the obvious.
LINKLST has come to be used in situations remote from its original
narrow focus, which was to improve real and virtual program-fetch
performance from certain system datasets.
It does this well, but it was never intended that volatile program
Cheryl Watson's BoxScore product may do part of what you're looking for.
http://www.watsonwalker.com/boxscore.html
I have no personal experience with it though and don't know if it looks at
specialty engine utilization as part of it's complications.
Also, I've noted significant variation in
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:09:49 -0600, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org wrote:
On 01/20/2012 05:50 AM, Jan MOEYERSONS wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:21:01 -0600, Chase, Johnjch...@ussco.com wrote:
I think this may be related to the fact that an MQ triggering message is
made available to the
In our AXR00 parmlib member I setup the comand prefix character as;
CPF('REXXSYSCLONE.',SYSPLEX)
Which is exactly what I wanted...until I tried to use it in an Omegamon
event command.
I'm getting this error from zOS;
rexxsysclone. D T
IEE305I REXXSYS COMMAND INVALID
I would have thought
Our shop uses Easytrieve and CA-EARL - mostly because of old stuff still being
run.
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Other commercial report writer not listed above.
If any of these product are installed on one of you systems it would be
greatly appreciated if you could respond OFFLIST letting me know which ones
you use.
Sorry for replying ONLIST, but could you be kind to elaborate on
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:25:34 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Can LINKLIST contain aliases?
IIRC (but I may not remember correctly) SETPROG ADD can specify an
alias. However,
If so:
(0) Place the alias name in PARMLIB LINKLIST defs;
IDCAMS DEFINE ALIAS to the real data set name.
(1) create a
Hello,
We currently have a product that captures data from SYSOUT files of both JES2
and JES3 so by using SAPI we pick up the 3 JES data-sets JESMSGLG, JESJCL and
JESYSMSG. We now need to capture also the original input JCL (data-set
JESJCLIN) using the same method or as similar as possible.
Hi
I also wanted to get the JESJCLIN a while ago, asked here the newsgroup,
and the suggestion was to use SDSB.
As far as I can remember you always have a JES token via SAPI, and with
this token and SDSB you can allocate the JESJCLIN.
On 1/23/2012 3:22 PM, ESHEL Jonathan wrote:
Hello,
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:48:58 -0800, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote:
Hi - The following questions was approved by Darren for distribution
on the list.
I'm trying to determine if any of the following production are in
active use at your shop.
Easytrieve
DYL260, DYL280 (CA vision:results)
snip
1. We just had 3390-9's configured into our EMC box. This box also
contains 3390-3's. Given that the hardware is the same throughout and
all other things being equal, is there any decrease in response time on
the mod-9's?
/snip
Beware of IOSQ! From the viewpoint of the Operating System, you
Barbara Nitz writes:
begin snippet
Because vendors and IBM demand to have their datasets it put into
LINKLIST. Partly because they don't support ISPLLIB and dynamic
steplib is frowned upon by IBM, too. Partly because vendors and
components other than those supported by Peter Relson have no clue
All,
Does anyone know or have called IKJEFT01 from a LE COBOL program.
I have read manuals and googled and found no definitive answer.
Sent from my iPad
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Senior Systems Engineer
www.identityforge.com
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Iosq? Really? This is raid dasd, isn't slow 3390-9's a thing of
the past?
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Probably only true if you have a good cache-hit-rate, but this depends
on the box.
PAVs will certainly help here if the box supports them and you have
configured them.
Kees.
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On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:18:09 -0500, Jousma, David wrote:
Iosq? Really? This is raid dasd, isn't slow 3390-9's a thing of
the past?
Is z/OS unaware of the underlying RAID and designed not to dispatch
concurrent operations to what it sees as a single device?
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From:
Richard,
Actually the 9393 was the RAMAC virtual array (RVA) made by StorageTek. We
just shut ours down about 5 years ago, used 4 GB drives in it. The other RAMAC
devices were a 9391 and 9392 (among other numbers) These were called the
RAMAC2 devices and were either disk drawers sitting
Scott,
I know of COBOL APs that create a jobstream/card-image sequence that
in turn invokes IKJEFT01, writing it out to the internal reader; and I
have myself done this in PL/I.
Are you thinking of something more direct?
--jg
On 1/23/12, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:
All,
Does
On 01/23/2012 02:46 AM, R.S. wrote:
W dniu 2012-01-22 05:21, Joel C. Ewing pisze:
I've said it before, but will say it again: modern tape media has such a
large capacity that a single dfhsm cartridge can contain an incredibly
large number of datasets. It is almost inevitable that loss of a
*Yes*. Hardware improvements have reduced the impact, but the issue
still exists. Think lots of itty-bitty datasets on a mod 9.
You previously had 3 logical actuators to access 3 units of data .
With mod 9 you have 1 logical actuator to access the same amount of
data.
From: IBM Mainframe
I am curious in other shops that use the 'T TIMEZONE' command if they stop
batch work before issuing the command.
Thanks Matt
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Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:29 PM
To:
snip
Is z/OS unaware of the underlying RAID and designed not to dispatch
concurrent operations to what it sees as a single device?
/snip
Correct! With the exception of PAV (which was invented to address the
IOSQ issue!)
We could get into a long discussion here, but large datasets that take
up
In
capd5f5rnou9kac+uo5oduw8fqhdcn-vugmvo+gkwcdfd_xm...@mail.gmail.com,
on 01/22/2012
at 08:34 PM, John Gilmore johnwgilmore0...@gmail.com said:
It is a question of karma or luck too, and that can run out.
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On 1/23/2012 8:18 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
All,
Does anyone know or have called IKJEFT01 from a LE COBOL program.
I have read manuals and googled and found no definitive answer.
Sent from my iPad
Scott Ford
Senior Systems Engineer
www.identityforge.com
What are you trying to accomplish? I've
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:52:27 -0600, Staller, Allan wrote:
*Yes*. Hardware improvements have reduced the impact, but the issue
still exists. Think lots of itty-bitty datasets on a mod 9.
You previously had 3 logical actuators to access 3 units of data .
With mod 9 you have 1 logical actuator to
In 2352892735591824.wa.nitzibmgmx@bama.ua.edu, on 01/23/2012
at 02:35 AM, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net said:
The implications are generally not really understood.
Neither are the implications of update jobname(*).
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ISO position;
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:18:41 -0500, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:
Does anyone know or have called IKJEFT01 from a LE COBOL program.
I have read manuals and googled and found no definitive answer.
I believe that IKJEFT01 must be invoked APF-authorized, and that probably your
COBOL
Generally speaking...Yes
snip
IOW, the response time is more likely to increase than to decrease,
and increased response time is a Bad Thing
/snip
PAV, Cache, and RAID all have impacts that mitigate the 1:3 (or worse)
actuator to data ratio on mod 9 vs. 3 mod 3.
These impacts may not be part
We only do that on time change weekend. At 02:00 local time Sunday. And we
don't normally have any jobs running at that time. But it is not our intention
to not run jobs then. We just generally don't.
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IT
Administrative Services Group
HealthMarkets(r)
9151
We do. Mostly out of application cautiousness. Much like still IPLing
to go backwards in time in the fall.
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Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services
david.jou...@53.com
1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:01:42 -0600, Walt Farrell wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:18:41 -0500, Scott Ford wrote:
Does anyone know or have called IKJEFT01 from a LE COBOL program.
I have read manuals and googled and found no definitive answer.
I believe that IKJEFT01 must be invoked APF-authorized,
I'm looking for a way to do following by DFSORT. I have read through
DFSORT manuals but I could not find out the method. Your help would
be highly appreciated.
There is a master file which contains Volume serial (VOLSER). The
master file is sorted by VOLSER and there is NO duplicate VOLSER.
I think that the JOINKEYS may be able to do what you want. But I've not used it
myself.
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICE1CA50/5.0
John McKown
Systems Engineer IV
IT
Administrative Services Group
HealthMarketsR
9151 Boulevard 26 ? N. Richland Hills ?
I'm curious. We have not done 'SET CLOCK' for 15 years since we acquired
sysplex timers and now have STP. Time changes are automatic/programmed. Is
the reason for using manual processes strictly financial?
.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
Mark
I expect you'll get an authoritative answer from somebody and, to that end, I
have given your query a more suitable title!
Based on what I learn from z/OS Communications Server, the MVS product itself
is responsible for making symbolic substitutions, so you cannot simply expect
it always
Sorry guys my fault, I should have explained. My LE COBOL program is APF
authorized.
I want to be able to all call IKJEFT01 to invoke authorized functions. These
calls are RACF or one of the other security subsystems. I know certain
authorized calls I cannot make , now I am submitting a batch
Our time changes don't occur right at 02:00. Unfortunately, we have
some applications that do not tolerate the time change well, so we
typically shut them down. We no longer IPL in the spring, and just do
the SET TIMEZONE command. However in the fall we still do IPL.
I'd love to get away
Minoru Massaki at IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
wrote on 01/23/2012 08:47:00 AM:
I'm looking for a way to do following by DFSORT. I have read through
DFSORT manuals but I could not find out the method. Your help would
be highly appreciated.
There is a master file which
On 01/23/2012 10:09 AM, Staller, Allan wrote:
Generally speaking...Yes
snip
IOW, the response time is more likely to increase than to decrease,
and increased response time is a Bad Thing
/snip
PAV, Cache, and RAID all have impacts that mitigate the 1:3 (or worse)
actuator to data ratio on mod
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:14:52 -0800, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
wrote:
I'm curious. We have not done 'SET CLOCK' for 15 years since we acquired
sysplex timers and now have STP. Time changes are automatic/programmed. Is
the reason for using manual processes strictly financial?
In 45e5f2f45d7878458ee5ca679697335502e25...@usdaexch01.kbm1.loc, on
01/23/2012
at 09:08 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com said:
Beware of IOSQ! From the viewpoint of the Operating System, you now
have 3 times as much data behind the actuator on Mod-9's as Mod-3's.
If the Operating
In 7589649e-98dc-4d06-9e4e-6c18179b3...@yahoo.com, on 01/23/2012
at 10:18 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
Does anyone know or have called IKJEFT01 from a LE COBOL program.
Ever since TSO/E, the TMP has reqired APF authorization. Walt
suggested a viable alternative, depending on
I'm fairly sure that Walt Farrel (RACF person) would strongly suggest using the
RACF HLL Callable Services
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ICHZD1B0/2.19
But this is probably not as easy.
One vague thing rattling around in my head ouch!, is to use REXX.
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:25:30 -0500, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:
Sorry guys my fault, I should have explained. My LE COBOL program is APF
authorized.
I want to be able to all call IKJEFT01 to invoke authorized functions. These
calls are RACF or one of the other security subsystems.
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:52:11 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote:
Unfortunately the sysplex timer only support 1 offset.
Does that mean you must choose between GMT and LOCAL? Ugh.
Even if it supported two offsets, that's not enough. But the
Sysplex Timer (AKA ETR? AKA STP?) should support only GMT.
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::W dniu 2012-01-22 05:21, Joel C. Ewing pisze:
:: I've
In 45e5f2f45d7878458ee5ca679697335502e25...@usdaexch01.kbm1.loc, on
01/23/2012
at 09:08 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com said:
From the viewpoint of the Operating System, you now
have 3 times as much data behind the actuator on Mod-9's as Mod-3's.
If the Operating system *thinks* the
Hi Dennis,
We moved onto an mixed rack of mod 3 and mod 9 3390s on Hitachi disk. We do
not have PAV (cost). C are was taken to place data so that performance would
still be good. Our heavily hit datasets - database, online VSAM, etc. were
keep on mod 3 . T hings like dlibs, res, and
What's wrong with CALL TSOLNK using TSOEXEC RL ...?. It will invoke TMP
and will run your command.
ITschak
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:
Sorry guys my fault, I should have explained. My LE COBOL program is APF
authorized.
I want to be able to all
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:00:30 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:52:11 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote:
Unfortunately the sysplex timer only support 1 offset.
Does that mean you must choose between GMT and LOCAL? Ugh.
Even if it supported two offsets, that's not
Is there a capability of using an STK ATL(Silo) for the SADUMP tape repository
procedure in lieu of Stand Alone drives?.
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On 01/23/2012 01:21 PM, Bill Fairchild wrote:
In45e5f2f45d7878458ee5ca679697335502e25...@usdaexch01.kbm1.loc, on
01/23/2012
at 09:08 AM, Staller, Allanallan.stal...@kbmg.com said:
From the viewpoint of the Operating System, you now
have 3 times as much data behind the actuator on Mod-9's
On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 12:14 -0500, Skip Robinson wrote:
I'm curious. We have not done 'SET CLOCK' for 15 years since we acquired
sysplex timers and now have STP. Time changes are automatic/programmed. Is
the reason for using manual processes strictly financial?
It's certainly money here.
All,
Thanks to all, there is one thing that forced us as a vendor to use external
resources outside our
STC it is the 4096 line limitation to IRRSEQ00. I hope IBM will resolve this.
We have one customer with 350,000 RACF userids, if u do a SEARCH CLASS(USER) a
failure will occur.
Hopefully, I
Let me answer a different question.
Q. What is the best way to take SAD?
A. Overwhelmingly 'best' is to take SAD to DASD. No contest.
.
.
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I have NO experience with this, but in the Image profile there in an
option to use 'Logical partition time offset' in lieu of 'Standard time of
day'. Would that help in managing multiple time zones?
.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:36:44 -0500, David Andrews wrote:
Is the reason for using manual processes strictly financial?
It's certainly money here. During weekly sysmaint the system is
quiesced and we run a program by Axel Miller that interrogates a NTP
server and issues appropriate SET CLOCK
Since Skip answered a different question, I'll try and answer yours: :-)
(assuming you are talking about STK and not an IBM library)
If you have a sharing host (MVS) you can issue the mount command of a
scratch tape from another host. Make sure it is a scratch tape because
SAD will
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:54:24 -0800, Skip Robinson wrote:
I have NO experience with this, but in the Image profile there in an
option to use 'Logical partition time offset' in lieu of 'Standard time of
day'. Would that help in managing multiple time zones?
Depends on how practical it is to
On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 16:07 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
And the TOD just drifts?
Yeppers. It's not remotely as bad as it was in (say) the pre-CMOS days.
The clock doesn't move far enough from wall clock to be very noticeable.
How does this affect critical timestamps
kept in GMT? What do
(Have I ever mentioned how I hate switching from bottom posting to top
posting in the same thread. :-) )
I'm sure it would work just dandy, although I've never tried it. But what would
you, a z/OS sysprog rather do: Change the image profile on the HMC twice
a year, or change a parmlib
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:25:18 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote:
(Have I ever mentioned how I hate switching from bottom posting to top
posting in the same thread. :-) )
I think so. But I don't let it bother me. I use comments in line
style. Top, bottom, who cares? If the quoted material is
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 07:54:52 -0600, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com
wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:25:34 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Can LINKLIST contain aliases?
IIRC (but I may not remember correctly) SETPROG ADD can specify an
alias. However,
From MVS Init Tuning, on SETPROG
W dniu 2012-01-23 20:58, Brendan seuter pisze:
Is there a capability of using an STK ATL(Silo) for the SADUMP tape repository
procedure in lieu of Stand Alone drives?.
I think you can issue a command to mount a cartridge to a given drive,
i.e. from another HSC host.
However I would never
Hi Mark - I'm asking Darren for permission to provide a more detailed
explanation of the question behind the question.
Thanks,
Sam
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:48:58 -0800, Sam Siegel s...@pscsi.net wrote:
Hi - The following
In 1327354064.32007.66.camel@localhost, on 01/23/2012
at 04:27 PM, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com said:
I thought that STP was LIC, and contained some enabling bits?
I believe that the Clock Steering facility used by STP is chargable.
See the PERFORM TIMING FACILITY FUNCTION (PTFF)
In 0474239580859420.wa.arthur.gutowskicompuware@bama.ua.edu, on
01/23/2012
at 04:14 PM, Art Gutowski arthur.gutow...@compuware.com said:
So, NO, as of z/OS 1.12, ALIAS entries are not allowed.
ITYM are not allowed at IPL time.
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ISO
In 9512715166290504.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu, on
01/23/2012
at 03:07 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
(It's not Shmuel's dog.?)
Keep that in mind.
Is the hardware used by STP well enough documented in the PoOp
(PrOp?) that one could write RYO (E)TOD steering code,
You may find this interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0-pLcgq-2Mfeature=related
Rez
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You may find this interesting:
David:
Speaking of Sort...
20+ years ago I created a data tape for testing sort out. It was
essentially an 80 byte record with 20 4 byte sort keys. I created a
million records using IEBDG and it really put any sort I threw at it
to a heavy duty test. All fields were binary and random. Once
Yaeger-san and McKown-san,
Thank you very much for your kind help.
It is exactly what I want to do.
By the way, one of our customer is still using z/OS V1.10.
Does DFSORT for z/OS V1R10 support JOINKEYS application?
If it doesn't, are there any way to do same thing as JOINKEYS does on
z/OS V1.10
At 15:49 -0500 on 11/21/2011, Blaicher, Christopher Y. wrote about
Re: Set Clock Command:
It depends on your applications and how they are written. If they
use the TIME macro, or the various language equivalents, you may
have a problem at switch times. See the ZONE parameter of the TIME
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