Re: Macro List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler ...)

2007-03-22 Thread Charles Mills
While we're here, I would like to politely dispute the IBMer's implication (and I apologize for forgetting his name and for paraphrasing) that all you have to do is code the macros as documented and all will be well. I would suggest that one cannot write reentrant or otherwise "special" assembler c

Re: Question On Reading Mainframe Tapes on Other Platforms

2007-03-22 Thread Charles Mills
No, no, I understood your original question (sorry if my answer was not clear). The hardware is designed for attachment to a PC. In my experience it comes with a. drivers b. utility copy and dump programs c. possibly library routines to facilitate development of your own software. This is a gene

Re: Question On Reading Mainframe Tapes on Other Platforms

2007-03-22 Thread Charles Mills
It has become pretty common due to the prevalence of PC-based "mainframes" such as the FLEX. You can buy SCSI-attached mainframe-style tape drives from dealers, such as T3 and Cornerstone. I think about $5000 and up depending on new/used, model of tape, auto-loaders, etc. The tape drives typically

Re: Null in JCL causing ERROR

2007-03-22 Thread Charles Mills
Why do I get this strange feeling of déjà vu? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JONES, CHARLIE Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Null in JCL causing ERROR We are on z/OS 1.7 - We ha

Re: FLEX-ES & PWD

2007-03-21 Thread Charles Mills
My former company (Firesign Computer) was a success story for the predecessor machines and program. We acquired two P/390s through the PiD program (mid-1990s). We developed Outbound which became (according to Gartner) the number three inter-machine file transfer product (after Connect:Direct and CA

Re: Another article on the Flex/IBM issue

2007-03-21 Thread Charles Mills
Great article! Thanks. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Green Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 7:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Another article on the Flex/IBM issue http://www.itjungle.com/big/big032007-st

Re: Is IEF686I DDNAME REFERRED TO ON DDNAME KEYWORD ... new?

2007-03-09 Thread Charles Mills
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/05/2007 at 03:44 PM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Is IEF686I DDNAME REFERRED TO ON DDNAME KEYWORD IN PRIOR STEP WAS NOT >RESOLVED new in z/OS (new relative to OS/390)? That message or one very similar goes all the way back to OS/360. &g

Re: General question on licensing "obsolete" IBM products

2007-03-08 Thread Charles Mills
The current LE "COBOL Migration" manual lists a fair amount of analysis and work to determine and or provide for upward compatibility. I believe them. When a customer has hundreds of "not recently touched" business-critical programs, and no one who knows how they work, and no budget for conversion

Re: Download z/OS software protocols (was SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?)

2007-03-08 Thread Charles Mills
Dumb question: does IBM only distribute various fixes electronically, or can you get an entire newly-ordered product via the Internet? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:1

Re: General question on licensing "obsolete" IBM products

2007-03-08 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks, Tim. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 4:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: General question on licensing "obsolete" IBM products Please bear in mind this i

Re: General question on licensing "obsolete" IBM products

2007-03-07 Thread Charles Mills
> AND OF COURSE, as far a RUN-TIME goes, if you have z/OS, then you already > have the OS/VS COBOL run-time support. (It's part of LE). Well, now you're getting to the heart of the actual issue. (This is not just an academic question.) LE support for the older COBOLs is 99% compatible -- which is

General question on licensing "obsolete" IBM products

2007-03-07 Thread Charles Mills
ing the word "sale" loosely -- obviously, software is licensed)? Charles Mills -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

Re: Is IEF686I DDNAME REFERRED TO ON DDNAME KEYWORD ... new?

2007-03-06 Thread Charles Mills
Don't recall the size of JESMSG. I did an S (rather than a ?) in SDSF, so I saw everything concatenated, and the total was probably 60 or so lines. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Mullins Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 20

Re: Is IEF686I DDNAME REFERRED TO ON DDNAME KEYWORD ... new?

2007-03-05 Thread Charles Mills
Ah! Thanks. You and Ray are right. It's flushing but on a different error. I was just about to beat myself up for not realizing that the subject message is an "I" message and could not possibly be fatal ... but then I noticed that the error it IS flushing on is an "I" message also. Go figure! I gu

Is IEF686I DDNAME REFERRED TO ON DDNAME KEYWORD ... new?

2007-03-05 Thread Charles Mills
cated with several concatenated PDS members and many intervening //* comments.) Yes, I know how to fix it (//MOREDD DD DUMMY) but I was just surprised that something that used to work had stopped working. I would be interested in a confirmation that I am not missing or imagining something. Cha

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-03 Thread Charles Mills
Seems to me like a simpler bit of magic than that which makes PDSEs seem to have 256-byte directory blocks. For all of the LE programs, no problem. For all of the assembler programs doing vanilla GETs and PUTs, no problem. If you're manipulating BBCCHHRs, well, you're on your own. Similar to pro

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-03-03 Thread Charles Mills
Are you sure? I don't believe BPS became TOS. I think TOS was DOS stripped of DASD support and with a tape SYSRES. BPS was not really an operating system, as I recall. It was a bunch of I/O routines that could be linked with a user program such that the application programmer did not have to write

Re: sysprog demand in USA

2007-02-26 Thread Charles Mills
Check the archives for the moaning and groaning about layoffs, mainframe power-downs, and the lack of openings/opportunities. I don't believe it's all doom and gloom but any US company that can't find domestic sysprogs is either not looking very hard or is offering $36,000/year. Unless you have c

Re: help -- ignorant new boss

2007-02-22 Thread Charles Mills
This might be a sign that the mainframe (and by implication, you) are being de-emphasized. OTOH, he may quickly realize that the mainframe is strategic (is it at your shop?) and that he is responsible for it (in a management sense of "responsible") and that you are his lifeline. Could be a good thi

Re: What are the naming rules for LPARs?

2007-02-22 Thread Charles Mills
Thank you! Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

Re: What are the naming rules for LPARs?

2007-02-22 Thread Charles Mills
Awe, come on! Not one person on IBM-MAIN knows the naming rules for LPARs, and/or where the rules are documented? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN

Re: Simulating SRL in integer arithmetic

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Mills
Ah! I knew someone out there was paying attention in math class. Thanks. The VB issue is complex. VB.Net breaks a whole lot of VB6. It will probably break this program somewhere, but the program is for internal use only in a software company, so we're used to broken software , and there's no reas

Re: Simulating SRL in integer arithmetic

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Mills
ic I see it's not as simple as I thought. Maybe if it's negative, zero the sign bit with an "And", divide by 256, then "Or" the quotient with hex 0080 to recover the dropped bit. >On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:48:10 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > >>

What are the naming rules for LPARs?

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Mills
What are the naming rules for logical partitions? (I'll go RTFM if I have it -- is it on the DVD?) 8 characters, upper case alphanumeric, first character alpha? Are $, @, and # legal? (Hate those non-invariant EBCDIC characters.) Thanks, Charles

Re: Simulating SRL in integer arithmetic

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Mills
TED] On Behalf Of Bill Godfrey Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Simulating SRL in integer arithmetic On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:48:10 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >' Simulate a shift right logical 8 >If R6 >= 0 Then >

Simulating SRL in integer arithmetic

2007-02-21 Thread Charles Mills
R6 = R6 \ 256 ' \ is integer division Else R6 = R6 \ 256 ' \ is integer division R6 = R6 - 1 R6 = R6 And &HFF' Equivalent to S/390 X&#x

Re: IBM System/360 Operating Systems history

2007-02-20 Thread Charles Mills
> Overlays were much more important before the availability of virtual storage than after. Right-o. Overlays are in effect programmer-managed virtual storage. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john gilmore Sent: Tuesday,

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-02-20 Thread Charles Mills
MAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 12:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/19/2007 at 12:11 PM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Only i

Re: TSO TRANSMIT of PDS member

2007-02-20 Thread Charles Mills
This is part of the whole MVS schizophrenia on members IMHO. - Does not SVC 99 info retrieval return DSORG=PO for DSN=pds.name(member)? - Can you not open DSN=pds.name(member) with a BPAM DCB and do FIND and BLDL against it? - Why does DSN=pds.name(member),DISP=(OLD,DELETE) not delete just the mem

Re: TSO TRANSMIT of PDS member

2007-02-20 Thread Charles Mills
I dunno. I've always done it this way: //SYSTSIN DD * XMIT A.B DSN(pds.name) OUTDS(flat.file) - MEMBERS(member1 member2 etc) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 12:34 PM

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?

2007-02-20 Thread Charles Mills
"Net 30" is sometimes specified in the license. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Black Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 11:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-02-19 Thread Charles Mills
> TOS/360, as noted above, is essentially the same as DOS/360. Only if a tape is essentially the same as a disk! TOS's code base was largely common with DOS, and the programming APIs were a subset -- but the SYSRES was on tape! Believe it or not. The equivalent of an S806 took about ten minutes:

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?

2007-02-19 Thread Charles Mills
I think what we are hearing is that my earlier suggestion that "maybe the problem is your AP department" was not a red herring after all. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 10:5

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?

2007-02-19 Thread Charles Mills
Getting OT here but my experience managing a SW company was that direct deposit EASILY paid for itself by not having employees running to the bank on payday. Let's say you pay someone $80K/year. That's roughly $40/hour, and roughly $3077 per pay bi-weekly pay period. 30 minute run to the bank: $20

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-18 Thread Charles Mills
fails to mention that fact, you're right back where you were. They have the customer's ear and speak his language; you don't. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-17 Thread Charles Mills
Ted, if you haven't gotten why the trust model is inadequate from my past posts, and David Cole's, and Dave Salt's, and Russell Witt's, then my explaining it again probably won't do the trick either. I didn't list the customers' needs because I assumed you customers whom I was addressing would kno

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-17 Thread Charles Mills
Do keep in mind that if mainframe software maintenance were labor-free, most of the members of this list would not have jobs! If anyone has a better scheme, I'm all ears. IBM-MAIN members, design a software control system for me. How would it work? My needs are - Expiration date - Serial number

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-17 Thread Charles Mills
Perhaps the problem is with the speed of your accounts payable department? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cole Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 12:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: License keys for ISV

Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives are there?)

2007-02-17 Thread Charles Mills
I'm often the voice of dissent here. Let me throw out a few counter-thoughts. Bruno Sugliani wrote "we don't care (sorry about that) about the sharks robbing the poor salesmen" and he's right, of course. It's not your (the customers') problem if our (the vendors') salespeople have difficulties doi

Re: License keys for ISV products

2007-02-16 Thread Charles Mills
I have a lot of experience as a mainframe software vendor. I totally understand what you are saying. The other side of the coin is that some customers abuse software vendors. At my former company, we had several of what we called "the trial from h---." A prospect would run a trial forever, with ex

License keys for ISV products

2007-02-16 Thread Charles Mills
: charlesm at mcn dot org Thanks, Charles Mills -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://b

Re: Finding where a module is being loaded from

2007-02-16 Thread Charles Mills
Specifically, "How tell name of originating load library?" from August 14, 2005. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of john gilmore Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 8:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Finding where a

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Charles Mills
Ted, you might want to point your senior DBA guy at ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/db2storedprocedure/db2zos390/techdocs/Z0 1.pdf (watch the wrap) This is a presentation by Fiona Gleeson, Director, DB2 UDB for z/OS Silicon Valley Lab at the DB2 Information Management Technical Conference call

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Charles Mills
You and I might both be better off if you could confirm that and get back to this list. From the DB2 V8 App. Prog. & SQL Guide, Table 173 in Appendix 1.2.2: "For all instances of COBOL in this table, the application can be compiled using OS/VS COBOL, VS/COBOL II, or IBM COBOL for MVS & VM." Charl

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Charles Mills
at is not what was being discussed by Mike Bell in the note you replied to. He's talking about running without re-compiling. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 2:23

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Charles Mills
REALLY No program compiled under "older" COBOL is supported for RUNNING under DB2 V8??? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 2:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DB

Re: DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Charles Mills
I'm not a DB2 guy, so everyone please forgive my ignorance on this. And yes, if it gets deep, I'll take it over to the DB2 list. It's for a product solution for a customer, so I would like a certainty that it will work generically, not a "look at the pre-compile output and try it." No, I don't wa

DB2 pre-compile V7 bind and run V8?

2007-02-15 Thread Charles Mills
; I mean do the technical specs allow it; I'm assuming proper IBM product licenses are in place.) Thanks, Charles Mills -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: ps dataset

2007-02-13 Thread Charles Mills
I suspect this is a problem (phenomenon? -- some think it's a feature) that has been discussed here at some length in the past few weeks. DFSMS is creating the dataset in the same location as before, and the same data is still there. Don't know enough about ISPF edit internals to know why it (alone

Re: Any takers? COBOL copybook -> Java class defination.

2007-02-12 Thread Charles Mills
I've got a sample program from somewhere that I know does produce output on SYSJAVA. It is called ACCOUNT and I *think* it is an IBM sample program but I'm not sure. It begins cbl dll,thread,pgmname(longmixed),lib Identification Division. Class-id. Account inherits Base.

Re: Any takers? COBOL copybook -> Java class defination.

2007-02-12 Thread Charles Mills
IBM touts it as being for "OO programs" but from a practical point of view, from the point of view of converting one record layout to Java, I don't know what that means. I believe SYSJAVA was available with roughly the same facilities in V3R3 as in V3R4, AFAIR. Charles -Original Message-

Re: Any takers? COBOL copybook -> Java class defination.

2007-02-12 Thread Charles Mills
I hesitated to reply because I know just enough about this to be almost dangerous. But since no one else has replied, and fools rush in ... Isn't this what the Enterprise COBOL compiler outputs on SYSJAVA? "When you compile a COBOL class definition, a Java source program that contains a class def

Re: SORT question

2007-01-31 Thread Charles Mills
So many MVS utilities have vernacular names that consist of a 3-letter prefix followed by a functional name, they just seem to roll off the tongue that way: I-E-B-copy, I-E-H-program, I-E-B-gener, I-E-B-print/punch, I-E-H-init, I-E-H-list, I-E-B-update, D-F-H-sort. I-D-C-access-method-services see

Re: Dorting multiple VSAM and PS files

2007-01-31 Thread Charles Mills
Oh gosh, it would be a very reasonable programming task to enhance a sort program to have multiple input files that were allocated with separate DD statements (SORTIN01, SORTIN02, ... ?) and to read them in succession as though they were a single file. If Gilbert's exit can do it, surely the roomf

Re: Getting control

2007-01-29 Thread Charles Mills
Does this work with PDS? Only PDSE? Only HFS? I did not mention it but one surprising result of my experimentation was finding that a STOW of a member name that began with a digit completed without error, but afterwards the member simply did not exist. Yes, probably reportable as a defect, but I w

Re: AW: Getting control

2007-01-29 Thread Charles Mills
Cool idea. Other characters may also be possible. I got into this when I had my company with its PC-mainframe file transfer, and was dealing with how to handle making members out of PC file names. As I recall, at least at that time, it was possible to STOW a member with lower case letters in the na

Re: Getting control

2007-01-29 Thread Charles Mills
I guess for any of these approaches, the question becomes "how tight does this have to be/how clever (or malicious) are your users?" I think there is probably a tradeoff between how hard it is to do and maintain versus how well it addresses the question in this paragraph. We have not even mentione

Re: Getting control

2007-01-29 Thread Charles Mills
How about some sort of scheme in which you alias your program as A, and re-name program A to $A? So when the user runs A, s/he gets your program, which then links to the old A? In this approach or the one suggested by John, you could turn the function on and off with a system variable or a parm fi

Re: Writing assembler code to do a racroute?

2007-01-26 Thread Charles Mills
Let me second what Walt says. Don't even do this as your SECOND project in assembler! I have done this, and it's all documented, but the interdependencies of the parameters, their implications, and what works when, and so forth, can be difficult and frustrating. (Sorry -- I no longer have access

Re: What is "command reject" trying to tell me?

2007-01-25 Thread Charles Mills
nd reject" trying to tell me? On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:05:38 -0800, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The support center would be an inappropriate resource, based on my >experience. I believe they do not "help with problems" -- they "resolve >defects." Had

Re: What is "command reject" trying to tell me?

2007-01-23 Thread Charles Mills
here and put in the effort necessary to solve them "correctly," then why should it be worth it to me? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 4:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subje

Re: What is "command reject" trying to tell me?

2007-01-23 Thread Charles Mills
> Did you talk to the Support Center? No. Frankly, the cost-benefit ratio of recent interactions with IBM have not been encouraging. OTOH, this list has been a valuable and effective resource. I don't want to spend hours proving the problem to IBM, with the goal of a PTF that I then have to co

Re: What is "command reject" trying to tell me?

2007-01-22 Thread Charles Mills
> Why in blazes don't you specify a legal LRECL The entire situation is more complex than a listserve note. There are many variables, unknowns, and tradeoffs. One automated process is generating JCL; another process over which I have less control is running under that JCL. I don't specify LRECL, e

Re: What is "command reject" trying to tell me?

2007-01-22 Thread Charles Mills
1. I did not get any message other than the message in the OP -- specifically, no S013. I'm not intentionally leaving anything out of the story. As I look at the code now, the input DCB OPEN exit provides a maximum size BUFL if it is still zero at the time the exit is drive -- that code was no doub

Re: BLKSIZE=0

2007-01-22 Thread Charles Mills
en herrmannsfeldt Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 12:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: BLKSIZE=0 Charles Mills wrote: > 1. It IS on SMS DASD. This is not a theoretical problem -- it happens in > real life. The problem is ***not*** with DS1LSTAR or EOF markers. The > problem is tha

Re: What is "command reject" trying to tell me?

2007-01-22 Thread Charles Mills
to tell me? On Sunday 21 January 2007 20:28, Charles Mills wrote: > ... The problem is that the BLKSIZE in the DSCB is zero, QSAM picks that > up, puts it in a CCW, falls on its face, and diagnoses the situation with a > message that it takes a CCW expert to decode -- rather than diagn

Re: What is "command reject" trying to tell me?

2007-01-22 Thread Charles Mills
> Why not just take the matter up with your friendly IBM representative She was downsized in 1996. BTW, it never was an EOF issue. The issue is that QSAM does something stupid and then reports what it did in the most complex way possible. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe D

Re: What is "command reject" trying to tell me?

2007-01-21 Thread Charles Mills
One more time: 1. It IS on SMS DASD. This is not a theoretical problem -- it happens in real life. The problem is ***not*** with DS1LSTAR or EOF markers. The problem is that the BLKSIZE in the DSCB is zero, QSAM picks that up, puts it in a CCW, falls on its face, and diagnoses the situation with a

Re: What is "command reject" trying to tell me?

2007-01-21 Thread Charles Mills
Right. Actually, I think it is the zero BLOCK size not the zero RECORD length that ends up in an invalid CCW, but pretty much equivalent manifestations of the same root problem. BTW, and FWIW, I have solved the problem by adding to the code a branch to normal EOF if after opening the input DCB, an

Re: PULL? PUSH? STEM? (was: REXX EXECIO changing LOWERCASE TO UPPERCASE)

2007-01-20 Thread Charles Mills
nging LOWERCASE TO UPPERCASE) In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/16/2007 at 09:43 AM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >It would be great to be able to pass stems to Rexx functions, >internal or external. Well, if you could convince IBM to port OOREXX to MVS, ... -- S

Re: Transactions per Watt

2007-01-19 Thread Charles Mills
Right. Or per watt-hour. People mis-use these ratios all the time. You hear people talk about "how many MIPS a particular transaction uses." That's like saying "how many miles per hour is it from New York to Boston?" Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[

Re: PULL? PUSH? STEM? (was: REXX EXECIO changing LOWERCASE TO UPPERCASE)

2007-01-16 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. Nice looking code! I kind of wonder about the overhead of looping through all of the Rexx variables with IRXEXCOM. A lot of work if the program has lots of variables, but the stem in question has only a few tails. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ma

Re: PULL? PUSH? STEM? (was: REXX EXECIO changing LOWERCASE TO UPPERCASE)

2007-01-16 Thread Charles Mills
It would be great to be able to pass stems to Rexx functions, internal or external. Even with an internal function, you are reduced to passing the NAME of the step in quotes, and having the function use Interpret or Value or similar. I don't know exactly what the invocation syntax would be, but it

Re: What is "command reject" trying to tell me?

2007-01-16 Thread Charles Mills
> So, if you do things "the new way" with SMS, you would have gotten > the result you were desiring. The ball is in your court. I don't think so. The dataset IS SMS-managed, IIRC. The problem is not the lack of an EOF record, the problem is that QSAM sets itself up for failure by building a CCW w

Re: TSO RECONNECT (Was: Interrupting DSLIST)

2007-01-15 Thread Charles Mills
The TN3270 reconnect failure is one of THE most annoying things about remote mainframe work. Reconnect worked so well in the "good old SNA days," I keep thinking that the TSO/Comm Server/whatever folks have not really accepted that TN3270 is here to stay, and ought to be made to work well, not mer

Re: What is "command reject" trying to tell me?

2007-01-11 Thread Charles Mills
A good question, and something I meant to cover in the OP. A "real," albeit long-in-the-tooth and smallish mainframe, a 2003 with in-the-rack 3390s. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Thursday, January 11

Re: What is "command reject" trying to tell me?

2007-01-11 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks for your thorough answer. I think the full answer is that I am reading a file that has been created but not written into, and so yes, the DSCB-1 may well say BLKSIZE=0. You know, to return to an earlier thread, I would call this a user-hostile approach on MVS's part. Why would not a designe

What is "command reject" trying to tell me?

2007-01-10 Thread Charles Mills
d CCW chains back in the S/360 days so I am generally familiar with channel and DASD concepts, but why should I be getting a command reject when QSAM is building the CCWs? I have RTFM but without being a modern DASD CCW expert, I don't know quite what to make of the information there. Thanks,

Re: So, OK, no more promotions from me - after this one

2007-01-09 Thread Charles Mills
With all the trivia and word games and nostalgia and nit-picking and such that gets posted, how could anyone object to the announcement of a new mainframe class? I say "keep up the announcements, Steve." The people who need the classes most are the least likely to sign up for the opt-in list. How

How order PartnerWorld free software?

2007-01-09 Thread Charles Mills
might have changed. The IBM Web site is . ahem . a little bit of a magical mystery tour. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Charles Mills -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruc

Mainframe vs. "Server" (Was Just another example of mainframe costs.)

2007-01-09 Thread Charles Mills
Pet peeve. Saying mainframes versus servers is like saying Fords versus cars. A mainframe typically IS a server (often among other roles). The first definition Google comes up with for server is "A computer that delivers information and software to other computers linked by a network." I would quib

Re: Just another example of mainframe costs.

2007-01-05 Thread Charles Mills
n List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Y Odo Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Just another example of mainframe costs. Charles Mills wrote: > expertise and budget, you can't sell people what they don't want. If people > ar

Re: Just another example of mainframe costs.

2007-01-05 Thread Charles Mills
And for some non-mainframe server software, if you add another CPU, your license costs do double. I think Oracle prices that way, and I think IBM may price some software that way. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard

Re: Just another example of mainframe costs.

2007-01-05 Thread Charles Mills
> HW maintenance for 120 PCs is probably cheaper than for one z9. Especially since it might well be "if one breaks, we'll replace it." Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:00 AM To: IBM

Re: Just another example of mainframe costs.

2007-01-05 Thread Charles Mills
I don't want to get too far OT here but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob has a good summary of what "Bob" was, and Melinda (French) Gates' role. My point was that it is easy for the advocates of some product (in this case mainframes) to dismiss the success of some other product (in this

Re: Just another example of mainframe costs.

2007-01-04 Thread Charles Mills
Amen, brother. Denial is not just a river in Egypt. As current events show, you don't win a war by kidding yourself about what the enemy is like. The customer is right. If people are buying non-mainframe boxes, there is a reason. Oh yeah, clever marketing. Wrong. You can't sell much of anything t

Re: How to write a full-screen Rexx debugger?

2007-01-04 Thread Charles Mills
Based on experimentation: - IRXEXCOM works fine in a non-integrated environment. Of course, I have not used every function, but I have retrieved and set lists of individual variables extensively. - Yes, as you say, a "non-integrated" environment works under TSO, perfectly for my particular requir

Re: How to write a full-screen Rexx debugger?

2007-01-02 Thread Charles Mills
Mea culpa. I know that Xpediter is a Compuware product, and I certainly know that CA is not an abbreviation for Compuware. (In fact, I was not using CA as an abbreviation for anything but as the name of a product -- erroneously, as it turns out). My apologies for any offense or confusion. Charles

Re: How to write a full-screen Rexx debugger?

2006-12-30 Thread Charles Mills
, etc. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 11:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to write a full-screen Rexx debugger? What if you: - Built a full-screen applic

Re: How to write a full-screen Rexx debugger?

2006-12-30 Thread Charles Mills
What if you: - Built a full-screen application with two panes. The upper pane would be for output. A user could scroll up and down through the output, so s/he could readily see output produced earlier in the session. - The lower pane would be for input. A user could either type a command, or sele

Re: How to write a full-screen Rexx debugger?

2006-12-30 Thread Charles Mills
Ah! Would it be possible to "replace" TRACE with your own service routine, that would do TSO full-screen presentation of the data, rather than Rexx's line I/O. Interesting question. That would be a useful "product." You can write code that Rexx will call for all I/O including Say. See Chapter 14

Re: How to write a full-screen Rexx debugger?

2006-12-30 Thread Charles Mills
Ah! Binyamin and I answered different questions, I think. By "full-screen Rexx debugger," do you (the OP) mean: - a full-screen debugger for Rexx programs? Or - a full-screen debugger for programs in general, written in Rexx? I answered the latter question; I think Binyamin is answering the forme

Re: How to write a full-screen Rexx debugger?

2006-12-30 Thread Charles Mills
I have not used XDC or CA-Xpediter, but I would imagine you could write a debugger in "mostly" Rexx with some assembler. Take a look at the TSO/E Programming Services manual for a discussion of how to write a native TSO full screen program. You will also have to give some thought to the "debugging

Re: ftp job submission

2006-12-26 Thread Charles Mills
pdc (and anyone else), if you will write me privately, I will send you a comprehensive chart of FTP job submission timeout possibilities and their resolution. I searched both my PC and the archives for your original note and I can't seem to find it. I incorrectly sent the chart to the first person

Re: Plurals and language confusion

2006-12-18 Thread Charles Mills
I was doing a contracting project years ago for the Virginia DMV. They took me down to see the customer interaction. Chaos was reining because a guy was getting his photo taken and wanted his guide dog to be in the photo with him. We all of a sudden went "seeing eye dog in a driver's license photo

Re: S0C1 with ILC 6

2006-12-15 Thread Charles Mills
And frankly, speaking as a vendor, a more economical (for the vendor) approach. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe clones

2006-12-15 Thread Charles Mills
rame Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warner Mach Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe clones Charles Mills wrote: >I don't think so (but I'm not a patent attorney). If you can pu

Re: IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe clones

2006-12-14 Thread Charles Mills
Way OT, but FWIW, Whelan v. Jaslow ruled that copyright protected code re-written from one programming language to another. As I recall the case, it was a transcription from IBM Series/1 EDX to something else, maybe PC Pascal. And the plaintiff was able to show that "dead" code that was never c

Re: What does a patent do that copyright does not?

2006-12-14 Thread Charles Mills
Well, this forum is not the right place to "sell" my invention, but the difference is that you might presumably be willing to share your name and key with a wide circle of friends, and if you had had the malicious foresight to buy it under an assumed name, then you could freely share it on a bullet

Re: What does a patent do that copyright does not?

2006-12-14 Thread Charles Mills
Public key cryptography was one of my inspirations. Discussion of cancelled credit cards here http://cikeep.com/faq.htm. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey D. Smith Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 9:18 AM To: IB

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