Re: IBM obsoleting mainframe hardware

2007-06-28 Thread Kirk Talman
And notice the age distribution. Skews to considerably less than 5 yrs. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/28/2007 10:06:41 AM: If IBM doesn't chase the technology, then the competition will, and IBM will die. So you have new m/f generations every couple of years

Re: IBM obsoleting mainframe hardware

2007-06-28 Thread Kirk Talman
I've never worked anywhere that didn't have to upgrade desktops every 2-3 yrs because of the demands of windoz software. I am advised by an aquaintance who runs IT in a middle sized global company that his organization is postponing the upgrade to Vista until the next round of hardware

Re: IBM obsoleting mainframe hardware

2007-06-28 Thread Kirk Talman
The gummit. How old are the mainframes used by FAA? IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/28/2007 10:47:50 AM: On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:30:36 -0400, Pinnacle wrote: How many people have actually ever kept a mainframe for ten years, even with upgrades? Tom Marchant

Re: Off Topic But Concept should be Known To All

2007-06-21 Thread Kirk Talman
Amen! from my quote file: a statement not only false in itself, but one which casts doubt on all previous utterances from the same source. - H.P. Herbert q.Peter Hebblethwaite _NCR_92May8p14 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/21/2007 09:17:44 AM: RIGHT!

Re: Identify ibm-main posts on Lotus Notes

2007-06-19 Thread Kirk Talman
I tried using color a few minutes ago. Wouldn't work. Took Lotus client down and back up. It now works. PC software - when in doubt, reboot. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/19/2007 03:16:22 PM: Well... it is working now. I'm not sure why it wasn't before.

Re: CA-SupportConnect down

2007-06-18 Thread Kirk Talman
Silicon-based job action. Their extra baryons are acting up/out. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/18/2007 10:31:55 AM: First IBMLink and now CA- SupportConnect too it seems the Gremlins are working overtime. Sam Knutson, GEICO

Re: Idenitfy ibm-main posts on Lotus Notes

2007-06-18 Thread Kirk Talman
I just added a rule under Tools Mail rules that if To equals IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU move to a folder I just created. It took a few minutes but has now kicked in and is working. We are rel 6.5.4 CCH5 2005Sep12. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/18/2007 01:54:09 PM:

Re: Multiple TSO logons (was: Patents, ...)

2007-06-13 Thread Kirk Talman
More accurately, single ID, single LPAR, single application, multiple session facility. That is an application issue. E.g., we have two TORs using a single AOR/FOR pair. For some transactions we disallowed using both AORs at the same time in the transaction's security signon part because the

Re: SHARE: JES2 Songbook

2007-06-08 Thread Kirk Talman
077 and 088 were collators. 088 was the device that required cards on one side the 9edge first and the other 12edge first. the 077 did not require this. 082 083 (1000 cards/min) 084 and 101 were sorters. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/08/2007 02:01:02 PM:

Re: Fix for orphan ISPF edit recovery files yet?

2007-05-25 Thread Kirk Talman
Have problem under 1.8. Had problem under 1.7 1.4. Oldest one of 131 total is now 2 yrs old. The only advice I got was to delete ISPPROF and see if that helps. Kind of answer I would expect from M$weenie not IBMsysprog. If you get a viable solution let me know. fyi our main system is

Re: Fix for orphan ISPF edit recovery files yet?

2007-05-25 Thread Kirk Talman
on 05/25/2007 02:39:19 PM: On Fri, 25 May 2007 14:17:24 -0400, Kirk Talman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have problem under 1.8. Had problem under 1.7 1.4. Oldest one of 131 total is now 2 yrs old. The only advice I got was to delete ISPPROF and see if that helps. Kind of answer I would

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-11 Thread Kirk Talman
A triple bypass is elective surgery? IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/11/2007 09:45:26 AM: Our regional Hospital had a terrible outage with their dual AS/400's(and of course no backup) and decided to convert. Well all the IBMer's who were planning elective

Re: jcl with dates as part of the DSNAME.

2007-05-11 Thread Kirk Talman
Wanted the tires of JOL. Am in process of trying to get software. This manual link is bad: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~oscarptyltd/jolstart.zip IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/11/2007 12:48:39 AM: I invite you to use my package - Jol. Here's one way you

Re: Access Method Services messages?

2007-05-10 Thread Kirk Talman
If you have QW, do QW STATUS. +---+--+---+-| | 9 | Implementor- | 0 | 1. For multithreading only: A CLOSE | | | defined | | of a VSAM or QSAM file was | | | condition| |

Re: Lean and Mean: 150,000 U.S. layoffs for IBM?

2007-05-09 Thread Kirk Talman
My son is sgt in iraq at moment (4th tour of duty in ME). Other than diet and humidity, little has changed. he is battle nco running a unit. when battle captain is not there, he has to do that job in addition to his own. before deploy, he had a mandatory training mission. he had to

Re: jcl.

2007-05-08 Thread Kirk Talman
What would the execution JCL for this program be? In particular, where does module DYNAM come from, either in static linkage as shown or w/dynamic linkage? IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 5/8/2007 2:33:28 PM: IDENTIFICATION DIVISION. PROGRAM-ID.

Re: jcl.

2007-05-08 Thread Kirk Talman
Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/08/2007 04:25:14 PM: CEE.SCEELKED. Jim Wangler -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Talman Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 3:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: jcl

Re: jcl.

2007-05-08 Thread Kirk Talman
Danke! Yet another change in compile options led me astray. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/08/2007 05:34:39 PM: You must compile the program with the NODYNAM option. Kurt Gramling - The information contained in this

Re: latest Principles of Operation

2007-04-27 Thread Kirk Talman
Unless you have gotten so old you can't remember what your own code does. You start writing everything down. I represent that remark. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/27/2007 05:19:47 PM: If the program can be done efficiently only by clever programming (and

Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes

2007-04-24 Thread Kirk Talman
Was SVC 99 the other name for the DAIR (dynamic allocation interface routine(s?)) or did it replace them? I vaguely remember using DAIR decades ago. Listings trashed/lost two moves ago. In S229-3169-3 (1971Jul no release) SVC32 shows parm of R1--UCB list but no mention of DSN, disp, etc.

Re: Latest Principles of Operation

2007-04-23 Thread Kirk Talman
Where is bit 27 of STORE FACILITY LIST in figure 4-18? We have a 2094-S18 with it on! IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/23/2007 06:13:09 PM: On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:10:15 -0700, John R. Ehrman wrote: The new updated to the z/Architecture Principles of Operation

Re: Article in Networkworld on TJX

2007-04-20 Thread Kirk Talman
Someone is out of touch Adoption of PCI DSS is not widespread, even though merchants can be fined for not complying, Rob Tourt, vice president of network services at Discover Financial Services, said in January. bigotry ... Older legacy systems are difficult because the industry

Re: Fw: IS IBM COBOL dead or just not being upgraded for z9? Re: z9 Hardware update

2007-04-18 Thread Kirk Talman
If Cobol is truly alive, why doesn't the 3.4.1 compiler support the new relative addressing and immediate instructions? Do we have to wait for Cobol 4? IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/18/2007 02:59:09 PM: Discussions are already ongoing as to whether we need

Re: Laugh, laugh. I thought I'd die - application crashes

2007-04-16 Thread Kirk Talman
As IEFBR14 is a frontend to SVC 99 (allocation), SVC 13 (abend) is the frontend to RTM. It's a way to stop things in their tracks when fubar is detected. In an online program (either cics or vtam) it is a good way to begin to attempt recovery when storage corruption or resource usage out of

Re: Contract Rates

2007-04-04 Thread Kirk Talman
When I originally came to ATL, I was contract but had a house in Pgh. The finances would have been dicey but the contract house let me get the Federal maximum of the money as per diem and therefore tax free, both federal and state. At that time (late 90's) I think it was $16.50/hr. I had to

Re: TASID Question

2007-04-02 Thread Kirk Talman
on zos 1.7 1.8 we have TASID 5.12 - Compiled at 11.42 on 05/24/06 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/02/2007 04:59:32 PM: We are running Version 5.06c, sounds like I need a newer version. Is 5.11 the most current? - The

cpuids

2007-02-28 Thread Kirk Talman
I thought this link http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/srm/ was a definitive source for IBM cpuids. What is a 2094-S18 (seen from TASID)? - The information contained in this communication (including any attachments hereto) is confidential and

Re: License keys for ISV products(Cole Software's view)

2007-02-19 Thread Kirk Talman
Dave Cole writes emails as well as he writes software. But a small reinforcement. Trust? A while back I worked for an ISV and was responsible for the code program for what was then the number one product on both total sales and velocity for the company. A Very Large Computer User (VLCU)

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-02-19 Thread Kirk Talman
IBSYS was the operating system of the IBM 7094 and probably the 7090 7070 7074. (36 bit word machine) There was an early version(s) of OS that ran on the 7094. The original production version of OS was PCP (primary control program?). It was used on the 360/75 at Oak Ridge National Laboratory

Re: Mixed Case Password on z/OS 1.7 and ACF 2 Version 8

2007-02-14 Thread Kirk Talman
And if your token is used with a laptop for remote access, don't store the token in the laptop case, even in your own house. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 02/14/2007 11:08:34 AM: Same goes for those tokens. Those are wonderful gadgets and offer a strong

Re: Microsoft In Hotwater Over Wikipedia Edits

2007-01-24 Thread Kirk Talman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gilmore Hockey does not appear to be attrractive to wikiists. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/24/2007 02:42:26 PM: Don't forget our own John Gilmore, who also plays (played?) football with the Chicago Bears and hockey with the

Re: user friendliness

2007-01-23 Thread Kirk Talman
Good point. I was using blogspot the other day which is owned by Google. I tried to save my work and got error bX-njdwxv which seemed pretty user unfriendly to me. But then I thought -- this is Google. They want use to use their search technology. I did and I got a clear expansive

ISPF edit bug

2007-01-23 Thread Kirk Talman
I have a small but irritating bug that I do not yet have a fix for. When in ISPF edit and using hardware tabs, one can place the cursor on a tab and press enter. The tabs on that line are cleared so one can place a character where a tab was. I find when editing for long periods that instead

Re: ISPF edit bug

2007-01-23 Thread Kirk Talman
Extra for SNA Server - Display v6.5 sp2 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/23/2007 01:05:30 PM: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On I have a small but irritating bug that I do not yet have a fix for. When

Re: Decoding the encryption puzzle

2007-01-19 Thread Kirk Talman
One necessary step to security where desktops connect to secure information is to disable all outbound ports on the desktop. Don't know if it is a windoz feature or ISV software. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/19/2007 11:56:52 AM: So what happens when that

Re: Decoding the encryption puzzle

2007-01-18 Thread Kirk Talman
Unless the chip is: 1) on a voyage outside our atmosphere or 2) on a ceramic substrate foolishly made from clay not tested for the presence of radioactive impurities, it is highly unlikely an alpha particle, regardless of its diet and lack of exercise, will make it to a chip. Those of

Re: Interrupting DSLIST

2007-01-12 Thread Kirk Talman
Just out of curiosity, are you using a session manager? IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/11/2007 07:27:37 PM: I press RESET, then ATTN, it echoes a vertical bar. I find that I have to do it more than once, but it eventually happens. Then I end up at [EMAIL

Re: Interrupting DSLIST [resent with the correct Reply To]

2007-01-11 Thread Kirk Talman
The ATTN did work - to a point. That is what the vertical bar means. Somebody put (probably TPUT) is out to say that the ATTN was received. But that was in an IRB not the code executing. I can't remember how the executing code is tapped on the shoulder, but it ignored the tap. And the

Re: So, OK, no more promotions from me - after this one

2007-01-10 Thread Kirk Talman
replacing rosie or donald? IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/10/2007 09:39:31 AM: Tuesday I have audition for hosting a TV show; if I get the gig it would be a minimum of 26 weeks of work. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock

Re: Special characters in passwords was Re: RACF - Password rules.

2007-01-05 Thread Kirk Talman
Characters like slash used in a password conflict with the parsing routines used for e.g. LOGON APPLID(...) DATA(...). Who knows where all there is parse-like hardcode of sessiondata. And then there is the security system password prompts where today slash after pwd means new pwd. I try to

Re: How to write a full-screen Rexx debugger?

2007-01-04 Thread Kirk Talman
Ah yes. We recently lost use of it and are in mourning. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/04/2007 09:40:14 AM: . When I was a Cobol programmer, long ago, Xpediter was the bee's knees, and I couldn't even begin to estimate the cost savings. They would have

Re: Just another example of mainframe costs.

2007-01-04 Thread Kirk Talman
Would the mainframe exist if prices had not been driven down by PCM's (software and hardware) to the point that they compete well with other technologies? On the other hand how crucial was Linux in driving demand for Ascii servers? What would M$ charge if they had competition only from

Re: Withdrawal of VM ServiceLink

2007-01-02 Thread Kirk Talman
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/02/2007 02:06:40 PM: Is that why a Michigan girl says You can and a Alabama girl says Y'all can ?? :-) And a native Pittsburgher will say Yunz can. - The information contained in this

meaning

2006-12-20 Thread Kirk Talman
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 12/19/2006 10:18:55 AM: I have a document with more than 160 'meanings' for IBM. I got it from a colleage when I worked for them. Ted, if you're willing to contact me off-list, I'd like a copy of that document, for hysterical

Re: COBOL compiler options JCL PARM.

2006-12-14 Thread Kirk Talman
On the other hand if change control changes code in any way they become responsible for the results. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 12/14/2006 04:31:46 AM: As an ex-change management person, I have to recommend you do not do that and indeed that you prohibit

Re: What does a patent do that copyright does not?

2006-12-14 Thread Kirk Talman
As those checkin kiosks at airports show, if you have a crdit card number, you have the name of the person to whom the card was issued. By law and at great expense, issuers verify that the information on the application for a credit card represents a real person. By adding that name to the

Re: S0C1 with ILC 6

2006-12-14 Thread Kirk Talman
1) If the psw points just beyond the last instruction and 2) noting that X'C1' is not valid op code the a B or J to offset X'200' causes an 0C1 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 12/14/2006 04:15:29 PM: That's my point. I get an 0c1 with the PSW pointing to a

Re: S0C1 with ILC 6

2006-12-14 Thread Kirk Talman
no wonder you are not naming them! An ugly way to catch a bad return code and an ugly way to abend a program. I have come to like EX 0,*, though it requires a base register. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 12/14/2006 05:14:02 PM: A further thought, it might

Re: IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe clones

2006-12-14 Thread Kirk Talman
BMC patented the 3270 datastream compression process in their early product for compressing CICS inbound and outbound streams. When Duquesne Systems TPX product had the same functionality but was not a compression product per se, they did not sue. When the same code was used to build a

Re: IBM sues maker of Intel-based Mainframe clones

2006-12-13 Thread Kirk Talman
circa 1972, 70xx emulation on 360/50 roughly doubled the number of frames. We got a 50 with emulation on it because the lessor had to scramble when the union people delivering a 50 refused to let non-union people who knew what they were doing unload a van. A 50 dropped on a sidewalk face down

Re: Decimal FP (was: vendor JCL)

2006-12-13 Thread Kirk Talman
First time I heard it was at Case Institute of Technology in 1963-4 in reference to the Univac 1107. Don't remember seeing its meaning specified, but datacenter users knew what it meant. Spool device was a drum which internally looked like a spool. IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Decimal FP (was: vendor JCL)

2006-12-13 Thread Kirk Talman
COmmon Business Oriented Language IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 12/13/2006 05:03:22 PM: I thought it was: Common Oriented Business Operating Language So, you're saying: COmmon Business Operating Language - The

Re: My New Job

2006-12-08 Thread Kirk Talman
Ah! a cool fall day. Think of what it would have been before global warming! IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 12/07/2006 08:26:40 PM: It was 3 degrees when I got up this morning. Not much warmer when I came home. Eric Bielefeld

Re: How recover from unrecoverable DCB ABEND?

2006-12-08 Thread Kirk Talman
Yes but why would want a program that is given an input file with the wrong RECFM to do anything but abend? Aren't abends the polite way to say to the job submitter thou hast fubared? IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 12/08/2006 06:03:27 PM: Off the top of my head,

Re: ISPF EDIT Recovery

2006-12-05 Thread Kirk Talman
Thanks for the heads up. I have 175 and our main plex has 9260. We are 1.7. The oldest unmigrated is dated 2003/12/02. About 40 are orphaned catalog entries with no dataset. What a fine little mess! Now where is the pooper scooper? IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote

Re: Effi[ci]ency of branch table vs individual compare branch

2006-11-30 Thread Kirk Talman
You certainly got my attention. I have worked on a number of speedup projects in this life and prior. We have one right now where we need a vendor to make a change. The vendor will learn about this. Previously though, the two techniques were hashing to reduce the length of queues and the

Re: Effi[ci]ency of branch table vs individual compare branch

2006-11-29 Thread Kirk Talman
I had not heard of the TRTO and had to resort to rtfm. My head is spinning. Why would anyone ever want to use a 64 K(i?)B translate table that has to be on a page boundary (in some cases) unless one is compressing data or converting Kanji and its first cousins to SBCS? What could it ever

Re: Effi[ci]ency of branch table vs individual compare branch

2006-11-29 Thread Kirk Talman
We send things to customers all day long. Some are quite large. I have seen 20-30 G(?i)B. They all go NDM compressed. I can't see ever file transfers being Unicode, except in special low-volume cases. And interplatform is a pita**3. If the target doesn't have gdg's, it usually requires

Re: A little etiquette

2006-11-22 Thread Kirk Talman
I have noticed the amount of spam to this account leaking through the corporate filters has increased significantly lately. I wondered what the source was. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 11/22/2006 10:51:44 AM: That shouldn't be so. Darren obscures the email

Re: Wiki? (was: FAQ)

2006-11-16 Thread Kirk Talman
1) Wiki's have the disadvantage that they require discipline and time. The content of a Wiki page needs to exceed the reliability of an opinion or a preference -- religious or otherwise. 2) Their advantage is that they offer concentrated information. They can act as a focal point for links to

Re: CA CEO in the slammer

2006-11-02 Thread Kirk Talman
Shows that crime does pay. With time off for good behavior, how many 10s of millions of retained ill-gotten gains is that per yr of prison? And as someone else mentioned, his father-in-law is untouched because of statute of limitations. And who pays the stockholders alleged to have lost

Re: CA CEO in the slammer

2006-11-02 Thread Kirk Talman
Another great math problem. He doesn't get credit for the 12th yr he is not serving So I figure after 10 yrs he has 11 yr 4 mo credit. Depending on federal math I would think he will serve 10 yr 6 mo - 10 yr 8 mo. 16 to 18 mo early. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote

Re: Apology

2006-10-27 Thread Kirk Talman
Is that the Mars just north of Pittsburgh? IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 10/26/2006 07:56:31 PM: Eric, So you are from MARS? :) Ed On Oct 26, 2006, at 3:12 PM, Eric N. Bielefeld wrote: Someone just sent me the following link.

Re: What's a programming language (was: Google ... )

2006-10-12 Thread Kirk Talman
Devices with three digit product codes were originally EAM (electrical and mechanical) equipment, e.g. 029 was a keypunch, 088 was a collator (match/merge), . The first computers, which used vacuum tubes, also used three digits, e.g. I used a 604 which was an EAM computer with about 16

Re: What's a programming language (was: Google ... )

2006-10-12 Thread Kirk Talman
right church, wrong pew. S/3. The later devices from that division had no cards -- S/34 S/36 S/38 AS/400 iSeries. Cards were almost square and had circular holes like the old Univac machines, but quite smaller. The column sets were in two rows. IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Moving data from old cartridges (3490) to new ones (3590)

2006-10-11 Thread Kirk Talman
I would stack my datasets in reverse expiration date order. That way the amount of current data on a tape decreases as time goes on. In a crunch, at any time the end of the tapes can be reused with short lived files. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 10/11/2006

Re: What's a programming language

2006-10-10 Thread Kirk Talman
And if you follow the link to http://www.99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-jcl-6.html you will see JCL as one of the 1015 ways to generate lyrics to a notorious song. The point would be to note that JCL is the fish wrapper, not the fish. It could in today's terms be called a portal, an access

Re: How is the mainframe like the opera?

2006-10-09 Thread Kirk Talman
Interesting! Sounds just like the strategy several ex-IBMers used to drive Legent into the ground in the middle 90's. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 10/09/2006 03:29:37 PM: A third possibility is that IBM does not care a whole lot about small developers, because

Re: Quick I hope COBOL question

2006-10-09 Thread Kirk Talman
77 D PIC X(64) . . . 77 L PIC S9(4) BINARY. . . . MOVE D (1:L) TO wherever . . . DISPLAY D (1:L) IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 10/09/2006 05:24:27 PM: I know this isn't the COBOL list. I'm not a COBOL programmer, so it all works out.

Re: harrisburg mvs shops?

2006-09-27 Thread Kirk Talman
BCBS of PA used to be there in Camp Hill. The legislative office used to be a customer of mine. I believe their name used to be the Legislative Reference Bureau. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 09/27/2006 01:00:24 PM: Pa House of Representatives

Re: SDSF Question

2006-09-25 Thread Kirk Talman
It's been +10 yrs since I worked on TPX as a developer, but the behavior you describe is the difference between SNA and non-SNA protocol. Under SNA protocol ATTN replaces PA1, because RESET will not unlock the keyboard and give you direction if the application has not already given it to you,

Re: Another BIG Mainframe Bites the Dust

2006-09-06 Thread Kirk Talman
running nix servers w/o admins. that's an interesting thought. probably too much face involved for someone to do before/after TCO. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 09/06/2006 03:27:07 PM: A 7,000 MIPS mainframe in Korea was recently replaced by Unix Boxes. See:

Re: Automated bad practices in COBOL.

2006-09-06 Thread Kirk Talman
1) the link is bad 2) the current compiler flags dead code and does not compile it IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 09/06/2006 04:19:35 PM: This isn't exactly what you are talking about, but it looks like it can analyze flow control in COBOL programs: Never used

Re: Dups In KSDS,ESDS

2006-08-28 Thread Kirk Talman
You can have duplicate keys in a path that uses an alternate index to access a KSDS. The true key built by VSAM for the alternate index has a tie-breaker field. What does it mean to have a dup in an ESDS? There is no key? pup IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on

Re: 27x132?

2006-08-22 Thread Kirk Talman
Yes. 3.5 decades ago it was sold to do data entry. The program was I believe DATA370. BTAM. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 08/22/2006 04:25:03 PM: I have forgotten: is MOD 1 12x40? -Original Message- David Andrews snip Surprise! Our shipping people

Re: z/OS SMTP and Reply-To

2006-08-08 Thread Kirk Talman
Look here for RFC 2822 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2822 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 08/08/2006 05:29:39 PM: In a recent note, Gary DiPillo said: Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:51:13 -0400 I have not found a reference to Reply-To in the SMTP RFC.

Re: WTO Question

2006-08-03 Thread Kirk Talman
Left hand/right hand? 33.1.4 Input Register Information Before issuing the WTO macro, the caller does not have to place any information into any register unless using it in register notation for a particular parameter, or using it as a base register. 33.1.5 Output Register Information When

Re: Data set ENQueues and DEQueues in Jobs

2006-08-03 Thread Kirk Talman
RET=NONE is the same as RET= parameter omitted. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 08/03/2006 02:20:20 PM: If there are others with a SHARED ENQ, attempting a RET=CHNG will either put you into a wait (possibly triggering a deadly embrace if you hold another SHR

Re: SEQUENCE NUMBERS

2006-07-31 Thread Kirk Talman
Yes. It is also possible to have vestigal line numbers on just some lines. In that case do a RENUM followed by a UNNUM. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/28/2006 08:51:59 AM: Thanks, I'm just an old guy who learned how to delete them a long time ago. Does UNNUM

Re: SDSF in Batch

2006-07-17 Thread Kirk Talman
In online SDSF don't you have to use DA STC to get started tasks? IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/17/2006 11:06:03 AM: Hi, I'm running the following commands in batch: PRE ** DA On the output I am only getting a portion of the tasks running on the system

Re: COBOL Working Storage being reset

2006-07-06 Thread Kirk Talman
4.1.2 Ending and reentering main programs or subprograms A subprogram is usually left in its last-used state when it terminates with EXIT PROGRAM or GOBACK. The next time the subprogram is called in the run unit, its internal values will be as they were left, except that return values for

Re: Character set conversoin headaches

2006-06-29 Thread Kirk Talman
The CRLF existed in the early 60's. When you drive a Teletype (a mechanical printer, which when excited sounds like a washing machine mating with a jackhammer) you need to account for the slowness of the carriage. You did the carriage return before the line feed to allow time for the return

Re: USS (was: Re: Western Digital Loses ...)

2006-06-28 Thread Kirk Talman
Yea, they could have used System Services for Unix. A much better acronym. :-)) IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/28/2006 07:45:04 AM: What I meant to say is that it's a mystery to me why they chose Unix System Services for the new name when USS was already a

Re: Curiosity

2006-06-28 Thread Kirk Talman
63 ditto. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/28/2006 11:32:21 AM: I'm 47 and will be lucky to ever retire. Mark D Pace - The information contained in this communication (including any attachments hereto) is confidential

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

2006-06-23 Thread Kirk Talman
Surely you are joking! The DEC PDP-1 was a transistor machine. The IBM 7xx and 6xx series were vacuum tube machines (plus other oddities like drums). NCR and Burroughs and of course Univac also had vt machines in the 50's. The 4xx series could be used as calculators. Richard Feynmann says

Re: Fw: Help wanted : COBOL/QSAM - Incorrect RDW

2006-06-12 Thread Kirk Talman
1) If you do a READ instead of a READ INTO, the 01 is addressing the buffer with all records left in the current physical record. So yes, if you look you might see the next record(s). You might also get an 0C4 if none are present. If it hurst don't do it. 2) the s002 and the RDW of 16444

Re: Fw: Help wanted : COBOL/QSAM - Incorrect RDW

2006-06-12 Thread Kirk Talman
of spaces might be the culprit somewhere. Later, Ray -Original Message- Kirk Talman 1) If you do a READ instead of a READ INTO, the 01 is addressing the buffer with all records left in the current physical record. So yes, if you look you might see the next record(s). You might also

Re: COBOL Books

2006-06-05 Thread Kirk Talman
The old cobol book I have by Welburn and Price (1995) doesn't mention mainframe. It does mention Microfocus Personal and Ryan-McFarland. Other than tricks associated with the redefinition of storage of integers (big-endian vs little-endian) and stated implementor-dependant features, the

Re: Google Architecture

2006-06-01 Thread Kirk Talman
Acutally financial query might use this architecture, except that the significant difference between this workload and typical commercial workloads -- they do no updates. Therefore no data integrity issues. Even a bankcard authorization requires the recording in a reliable way of the details

Re: Slower run time with DATA(31) COBOL Option

2006-06-01 Thread Kirk Talman
What is the definition of WS-LOSS-PAID-REINS, WS-LOSS-EXP-REINS? What does generated code look like? The SET implies ACCUM-R is an index, which is optimal. I once solved a problem like this by defining a pre-initialized parallel structure to one being cleared and using a group level move. I

Re: Write to BR14 allocated PSDS - Unitech ACR 3.3

2006-05-23 Thread Kirk Talman
Call it a design issue. There is no flag in the VTOC that says if the file has data in it. We have a series of in-house utilities to deal with this. EOF opens and closes a series of QSAM files whose DDNAMEs are EOFnn where nn is 01, 02, 03, ... Creating it is a good programming exercise. I

Re: Doubt regarding CDE chain

2006-05-17 Thread Kirk Talman
TCBJLB = 0 just means you have no joblib. Steplib ptr not available. Linklist another issue entirely. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/16/2006 09:28:49 PM: Hello, In the below givn article reagrding Static/Dynamic calls in Cobol at

Re: Password Complexity

2006-05-16 Thread Kirk Talman
A faucet dripping while you are trying to sleep does not make you get up and turn it off. But if you cannot sleep, you are likely to do it. Ditto auditors. If you are a financial institution or one of their business partners, the size of the, uh, uh, flow is quite large and can dampen your

Re: CMS vs GCS subtasking

2006-05-04 Thread Kirk Talman
There is a port of MVS that runs under VM whose name escapes me. (It has been over a decade since I supported a VTAM app in that environment but it might be GCS.) VTAM on VM runs under it. It allows subtasking. If you have VTAM under VM you have the segments you need already in place.

Re: WSA (was: Help : FTP A PDS)

2006-05-03 Thread Kirk Talman
Unfortunately, if one does this without other work one gets No connection when one takes option 2 (Download/upload ISPF library, partitioned, or seq data set) from the Download Data Set to Workstation panel (3.7). What is the other work to be done? IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: WSA (was: Help : FTP A PDS)

2006-05-03 Thread Kirk Talman
I assume the messages below mean tcp/ip not available. Ping gets messages indicating it is an authorized command. LSCX471 WARNING ERRNO = ENETDOWN Generated in SOCKET called from line 11219 of @@047041(NF) , off et 000166 C++ name: DtTCPCLIENT::BeginOperation

Re: SDSF Question

2006-04-27 Thread Kirk Talman
This is one of the very clever SDSF line commands. It allows you to combine multiple line items in one stream. XD (for file output) or XS (for spool output) on the first line, XC on the last line, and just X on middles lines, if any. The PF1 HELP indicates there is new option XF to specify

Re: Offensive Language

2006-04-27 Thread Kirk Talman
I really enjoyed this interchange. It is funny is that Wash*ta is the phonetic spelling of the Indian name Ouchita (Google it) found on places in AR and LA. At one time it was the name of a maker of canoes -- plastic as opposed to aluminum from Grumman and Alumicraft. Memories of the

Re: Reading Variable record with bad BDW/RDW?

2006-04-24 Thread Kirk Talman
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/24/2006 04:11:15 PM: The issue here is that the program expects to not be directed to a PDS, and when that accidently happens - things go, as you mention, alarmingly wrong. What I'm looking for is some way for the program to say

Re: Of job schedulers and high ISV costs ...

2006-04-14 Thread Kirk Talman
While we do not use Mantissa's scheduler (we use CA-7), we are arguably the largest user of their report distribution software. Small company, good service. This is a link to that product on their website http://www.mantissa.com/index.php?option=contenttask=viewid=39Itemid=56 Job/Master -

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