Re: HP annual report

2006-02-09 Thread Tom Schmidt
as well. Field-level help, context sensitive tutorials, messages that actually convey meaningful information (etc) all go without saying. In other words, vendors should do absolutely everything in their power to make their software as easy to use as humanly possible. Agreed (see above). -- Tom Schmidt

Re: HP annual report

2006-02-08 Thread Tom Schmidt
Software Architect, z9/zSeries IBM Japan, Ltd. (IBM Japan??? You'll be one of the tallest guys on any street corner there.) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: COBOL compile time Question

2006-02-03 Thread Tom Schmidt
? (It is the step end CPU and storage high water mark message in the system messages file.) Does your site have a (very) limiting IEFUSI exit that is preventing you from getting virtual storage above the line? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: COBOL Compile time Question

2006-02-02 Thread Tom Schmidt
not? (It might need a logic/flow analyzer to decipher it.) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: JES2 job execution routing

2006-01-26 Thread Tom Schmidt
to have SYSAFF=z/os.e (the name of the z/OS.e JES2 MAS image)? Its easy, cheap and overrides with a /*JOBPARM S=(z/os) on any submitted JOB card from any image. You can do it on-the-fly via $T INTRDR,S= if you want to try it now. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI (I'm a big fan of exits but even *I

Re: zIIPs

2006-01-25 Thread Tom Schmidt
a discussion on IBM System zT future development, but introduces a new specialty engine called the IBM System z9 Integrated Information Processor (IBM zIIP) planned to be available in 2006. (From the PDF.) Um, about that roadmap... has anyone else found it yet? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: State of the Mainframe - News Article

2006-01-24 Thread Tom Schmidt
of the females? What of the rest of the world?) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives

Re: How is work dispatched on zAAPs (was: Billing for SRB time)

2006-01-20 Thread Tom Schmidt
Don, The zAAP dispatching enhancements are available for z/OS 1.6 and above, via the PTFs for APARs OA14131 and OA13593 as of late 2005/early 2006. For z/OS 1.6 the PTF is UA23306, available for a few weeks now. (Add one to the PTF number for z/OS 1.7.) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: Billing for SRB Time

2006-01-19 Thread Tom Schmidt
.) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI (We have some IFLs and some zAAPs the they all work quite well.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Re: Billing for SRB Time

2006-01-19 Thread Tom Schmidt
the dispatcher wouldn't dispatch an SRB... especially one involved in fielding page I/O, for example. (But I don't recall having seen one on a zAAP for certain yet, either; I suppose I can go dig through some dumps.) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: Billing for SRB Time

2006-01-19 Thread Tom Schmidt
aware of that. The question is: can it? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives

Re: Billing for SRB Time

2006-01-19 Thread Tom Schmidt
to give control back to MVS.) Its on my list of things to learn (after I get done with more things to learn about CICS file control which I'm waist-deep in this month next). -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI (All of the zAAP stuff seems like a shameful waste of creative programming by Greg D. Co. just

Re: Billing for SRB Time

2006-01-18 Thread Tom Schmidt
on a zAAP? If so, the CPU time can vary rather dramatically on, say, a z890 with degraded general-purpose CPUs where the SRB is dispatched on a zAAP sometimes and on a CP other times, can't it? (Why inflict vague stuff like that on a customer's bill?) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: limited Numbers of TSO users on z/OS.e

2006-01-13 Thread Tom Schmidt
the customer and (b) picking up some money from the table. I've always seen the RPQ/PRPQ folks as useful in situations like this. (Maybe its just my skewed view.) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: fundamental computing paradigm has shifted from MVS, to Unix, and then to Microsoft Windows

2006-01-03 Thread Tom Schmidt
if Novell's Dr. Jeff Jaffe is related to ibm-main's own Ed Jaffe. Ed? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Re: PDF? (yet another apology)

2006-01-02 Thread Tom Schmidt
legislated Pi as exactly 3. The bill never became law IIRC.) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: Can not shutdown CICS region

2005-12-28 Thread Tom Schmidt
session? If you are using SDSF, try prefixing the / with an M as in: M/F CICSregion,CEMT P SHUT ...and see if that helps. (It should.) If not, you might try taking the question over to the CICS-L list. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: Mainframe Applications and Records Keeping?

2005-12-19 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:56:37 +0100, R.S. wrote: Tom Schmidt wrote: On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:54:15 +0100, R.S. wrote: John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: [...] Mostly Linux on the MF was so that you could migrate what was on 10, 20, 200 Intel boxes that were sitting there 90% idle and put on a single box

Re: Mainframe Applications and Records Keeping?

2005-12-18 Thread Tom Schmidt
the Jr. Execs if you want to save some serious money. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: Bigger Libraries (was: Re: Extent SMPPTS Question)

2005-12-15 Thread Tom Schmidt
the customer marketplace decide. I'd be less convinced if DFSMS allowed for substantially more than 59 volumes... I used to think that the 255 volume limit was too small and then IBM lowered it by 77%! -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: Its a question of ethics

2005-12-12 Thread Tom Schmidt
? Would YOU really appreciate a call like that? Would you trust that the advice was unbiased, open and honest? Would you really believe that the old boyfriend was just like you and that the circumstances hadn't changed at all in the interim? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: Using symbolic in JCL

2005-12-03 Thread Tom Schmidt
(and be willing to pay for) a job-level symbolic substitution service? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Re: Using symbolic in JCL

2005-12-01 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 09:46:59 +0100, R.S. wrote: Tom Schmidt wrote: We can't standardize the symbol processing in MAS sites today -- that's the core issue (which was discussed on ibm-main, what, 6-9 years ago??). But each site also has systems programmers being paid, presumably, to program

Re: how to lose a sysplex in 30 seconds

2005-12-01 Thread Tom Schmidt
.) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

Re: Using symbolic in JCL

2005-12-01 Thread Tom Schmidt
, it would take a few weekends of coding... (and not by some wannabe system adminstrator). -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message

Re: Using symbolic in JCL

2005-11-30 Thread Tom Schmidt
build this rocket engine/bomb in your own basement*. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI (* Yep, friends I did that once, many years ago; I have a slight hearing loss as a result. It took many years to surface.) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Using symbolic in JCL

2005-11-30 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:02:36 +0100, R.S. wrote: Tom Schmidt wrote: On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:05:54 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: Walt, I think the message from the customers is that they would be happy to accept your gun, your bullet, your foot. Customers want these symbols available. If they have

Re: Is there a JES3 equivalent to SEGMENT= in JES2?

2005-11-29 Thread Tom Schmidt
to channel 1, while the JES3 THRESHLD support is based on the number of LINES. Presumably JES2 output that has LINECT=0 specified (somewhere) would result in no SEGMENTs produced, whereas JES3 is more difficult to confuse (in that aspect, at least). -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: IEFSSNXX

2005-11-23 Thread Tom Schmidt
for an estimate of the WTO cost per subsystem. Tasks are harder to get a handle on, but there is always SVC sampling (RYO) for ATTACH/DETACH if you are curious. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: IEFSSNXX

2005-11-23 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:39:14 -0500, David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-11-23 at 11:25 -0600, Tom Schmidt wrote: Count the WTOs in a syslog for an estimate of the WTO cost per subsystem. Taking Ed's estimate of three instructions per inactive SSCVT, and assuming 10M WTOs per

Re: Determining size information for existing QSAM dataset

2005-11-18 Thread Tom Schmidt
? Or ...? You might be able to use SWAREQ services to pull the SPACE= from the allocating DD statement (with DISP=NEW or DISP=MOD) but I'd trust the geometry myself (and I have in the past). -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Mainframe Java (Was: Platform Advocacy)

2005-11-15 Thread Tom Schmidt
, late). Maybe IBM should just buy air time to replace the first 50 or so minutes of the game to let their people talk about z/Series? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 13:00:55 -0500, Richards.Bob wrote: They sure did! Two of them in fact. Both have a z9 as the only server

Re: Looking for a copy of Advanced Assembler Language and MVS Interfaces : For IBM Systems and Application Programmers 1999

2005-11-14 Thread Tom Schmidt
mainframe sysprog so awfully pricey?) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http

Re: Racf Reports

2005-11-11 Thread Tom Schmidt
language you want if you need some report for all userids. There are samples all over the place of using the IRRDBU00 file including a REXX example on my web site (RACFUDEL). You might get a better answer from the RACF-L list. Agreed. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: Best practice for TOD clock

2005-11-10 Thread Tom Schmidt
the assertion that setting the TOD clock to GMT or UTC was IBM's design intention or recommended practice? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Program exhausting below the line storage

2005-11-09 Thread Tom Schmidt
. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

Re: COBOL Program exhausting below the line storage

2005-11-09 Thread Tom Schmidt
reason that you have hit a wall at 3.5MB to raise this issue? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: COBOL Program exhausting below the line storage

2005-11-09 Thread Tom Schmidt
, CHARLIE Compiler: PP 5655-G53 IBM Enterprise COBOL for z/OS and OS/390 3.2.0 We have a LARGE COBOL application program that is exhausting below the line storage and abending. There are 16 QSAM files and an IDMS Database. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: OT- IBM slows the speed of light

2005-11-08 Thread Tom Schmidt
, at least, relative...h Ed Gould wrote: http://www.eet.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=173403017 -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: MEMLIMIT and IEFUSI

2005-11-02 Thread Tom Schmidt
part. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

Re: MEMLIMIT and IEFUSI

2005-11-01 Thread Tom Schmidt
. DB2 V8 is clearly broken by thoughtless design. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: Lost SYSLOG

2005-11-01 Thread Tom Schmidt
concurrently. Any ideas? Yes. Is your IEASYSxx member's LOGCLS= setting different than your W L setting? I'll bet that it is. (In other words, your LOGCLS may be set to something like LOGCLS=A which means your missing syslog either printed or was sent to your sysout archiver.) -- Tom Schmidt

Re: Starting Over

2005-10-18 Thread Tom Schmidt
part could be improved, but the new datacenter from scratch part hits the target.) I would, for starters, duplex the DASD (second site a.k.a. second sight) and I'd consider having no tape library beyond the tape drives 'required' for import/export to other sites. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: Port to z/OS or OMVS?

2005-10-18 Thread Tom Schmidt
it. MVS acquired what was then called Open Edition some 20+ years ago, so the community has had time to get used to it. :-) Still not 20+ (see above). 10+ is certainly true. 15 would be a stretch. 20 is flat out wrong. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: Starting Over

2005-10-18 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:37:04 -0500, Chase, John wrote: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt I would, for starters, duplex the DASD (second site a.k.a. second sight) and I'd consider having no tape library beyond the tape drives 'required' for import/export to other

Re: Multiple LPARs / one user id

2005-10-18 Thread Tom Schmidt
instruction. L 1,SYSPROG S 1,ASM_LANG ST 1,BOTTOM_LINE Martin, Your program is storing that in the wrong location. That difference should be stored in SYSTEM_ADMINISTRATOR instead of BOTTOM_LINE. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: GDG allocation

2005-10-07 Thread Tom Schmidt
, but are you then running this started task all day (and night) so that your syslog GDG is more-or- less up to the minute with the JES syslog buffers? And you have multiple GDG syslog readers throughout the day while you are writing to it with that started task? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: Can't vary offline

2005-09-26 Thread Tom Schmidt
volume offline. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 12:34:29 -0400, Dean Montevago wrote: Did you close and unallocate the catalog from the CAS ? Even if you rebuild the linklist I think XCFAS will still have an allocation to the datasets. -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Can't vary offline

2005-09-26 Thread Tom Schmidt
Yes. We had to do that on a production system here on Sunday morning. On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:19:59 -0400, Dean Montevago wrote: If this system is active is it advisable to do this ? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt Sent: Monday, September

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-26 Thread Tom Schmidt
of the size of the original request, being able to free multiply obtained adjacent areas with a single free request, free by subpool, and region reset processing isn't traced. Greg, What does the term region reset processing mean in this context? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: z/Architecture Principles of Operation (SA22-7832-04)

2005-09-20 Thread Tom Schmidt
not to be drinking hot liquids while they read this post.) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI (Maybe it would be more like 'caveat empty'?) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: One more about SYRES Sharing

2005-09-02 Thread Tom Schmidt
.) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

Re: One more about SYRES Sharing

2005-09-02 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 12:04:19 -0500, Tom Schmidt wrote: On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 17:38:21 +0200, Lucas Morton wrote: I'm in the process of redesign out z/OS infrastructure: In 1 year we increased our z/OS system images from 2 (1 production and 1 testing) to 6 (2 in production sysplex, 2 dev. and 2 test

Re: LOAD BLDL

2005-08-23 Thread Tom Schmidt
Richard, The file was open before the LOAD, right? Was the concatenation a mix of PDS and PDS/Es? Or was it pure PDS (or pure PDSE)? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:41:42 -0400, Richard Verville wrote: The jcl is correct. I caused an 0C1 dump and see in the output the concat

Re: Join Compuware at SHARE

2005-08-18 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL wrote: Is this appropriate? I thought adds were forbidden! No, adds are fine... but 'ads' may or may not be. ;) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Any way to get SDSF to cough up ICH408I?

2005-08-10 Thread Tom Schmidt
, it should allocate ISFTRACE to SYSOUT (SYSOUT=what is the question you don't want to waste time digging for). And then issue TRACE OFF to stop the madness. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: SDSF finally coughs up the ICH408I (sort of)

2005-08-10 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 15:02:33 -0400, Thomas Conley wrote: Thanks to Dennis Trojak and Tom Schmidt, I turned on the SDSF trace facility for 0080 SAF events and viola! I saw an OPERCMDS call for JES2.CANCEL.somethingorother. You may remember about 2 months ago that we had to disable OPERCMDS

Re: Mainframe to Smaller mainframe ... downgrade.

2005-08-04 Thread Tom Schmidt
to move to a system with fewer processors you can get stung by the increase in In-and-Ready work. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Reference for DCB coexistence with RMODE 31 programs?

2005-08-02 Thread Tom Schmidt
if z/OS would generalize the GDG support to (a) VSAM and (b) zFS files, and then perhaps carry that support back out to the iSeries and pSeries platforms (after crowing about it on z/OS first). -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: Wild Branch Diagnosis (Was: Five Digit Device Numbers)

2005-07-31 Thread Tom Schmidt
(and therefore a little harder to believe) since it would need to be X'C0F4' or else the EXecute register1 contents would need to OR-the byte following X'C0' so that the result was X'F4'. Less likely, sure, but possible -- and devilishly difficult to track. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: Wild Branch Diagnosis (Was: Five Digit Device Numbers)

2005-07-29 Thread Tom Schmidt
they'll be covered by the 'wild branch' display. (Oh, joy!) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: z9 Announcement

2005-07-26 Thread Tom Schmidt
kind. In spite of the partial web site update Ted found, there is still no official announcement. I can't remember past announcements of this magnitude being delayed like this ... Any word on when a new POPs will be made available? (I'm interested in the MIDAW description, for starters.) -- Tom

Re: z9 Announcement

2005-07-26 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 12:59:03 -0500, Tom Schmidt wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:31:40 -0700, Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Must have been a last minute delay/rework of some kind. In spite of the partial web site update Ted found, there is still no official announcement. I can't remember past announcements

Re: z/OS 1.6 and more than 16 processors

2005-07-07 Thread Tom Schmidt
of CPUs and zAAPs. Hum, I wonder if Oracle will do this. Some of their stuff is Java based, isn't it? I'm waiting for the first license agreement that simply demands a seat on the company's board of directors and stock options for the vendor. We can't be all that far away from that, can we? -- Tom

Re: z/OS 1.6 and more than 16 processors

2005-07-07 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:15:52 -0500, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt... snip I'm waiting for the first license agreement that simply demands a seat on the company's board of directors and stock options for the vendor. We can't be all that far away from

Re: IBM VSAM Statistics are often Bogus

2005-07-07 Thread Tom Schmidt
run... on the order of 1's or maybe 10's but not 100's and certainly not 1000's. You'll be swatting a gnat with a nuclear device in short order with this approach. (These statistics just aren't that important.) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: IBM VSAM Statistics are often Bogus

2005-07-06 Thread Tom Schmidt
satisfaction. Say what you want about IBM but its people are still among the best architects of software around. This issue is convoluted at best. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: IPL periodicity

2005-06-23 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:37:38 +0200, R.S. wrote: We're open to the customers 24x7x365. You only plan to be open for just under 7 years??? ( 24x365 would be one year's worth of hours, excluding leap years... ) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI

Re: Strange Auditor Questions

2005-06-09 Thread Tom Schmidt
, you will do what is actually required and all will otherwise be right with the world. In my experience trying to do anything else is an exercise in pain. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI (All auditor questions are strange at first glance. Only a few become less strange over time. - Schmidt's Law

Re: Banks

2005-06-08 Thread Tom Schmidt
/financial was asking on this very list within the last year about tape losses, etc. You might also recall that I was rather agitated then with their apparent lack of sophistication.) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Tape encryption solution

2005-06-01 Thread Tom Schmidt
handle. Since sorts can handle VSAM sequential files and can usually handle file organization fairly early, you could focus on your encrypt/decrypt modules without worrying about I/O efficiency. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM

Re: Userids DYNALLOC

2005-05-31 Thread Tom Schmidt
using the 8-character userid in its TCBSENV pointer? (Was a RACROUTE performed prior to the DYNALLOC in that subtask?) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: Impossible? convert PDF to Book/Manager format?

2005-05-25 Thread Tom Schmidt
nearest and dearest to me into my Palm. (The manuals DID get smaller and harder to read but I carry them with me everywhere.) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI (* The smaller and harder to read line is from 'The Onion' - America's finest newssource

Re: PARM=

2005-05-23 Thread Tom Schmidt
? A single, simple program front-end could offer the parm length granularity, provide for any file type source for the parm data, and even be shipped in a PTF. (Why wait?) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI (Who really says moot anyway

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