SV: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-25 Thread thomas . berg
Hear, hear ! ;) -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Edward Jaffe Skickat: den 25 maj 2007 02:07 Till: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Ämne: Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? Kenneth E Tomiak wrote: [snip

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/24/2007 at 09:23 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Which, according to an American lawyer I know, is bogus. The law was never passed (as of a year ago). Which law did he cite? S1648? The Murkowski bill was not passed, but you CAN-SPAM (S877) was passed. Of

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/24/2007 at 04:42 PM, Neil Duffee [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: An', yes, he did mention, As an FYI, by law this email is not spam. along with the Congress citation. So he's not only spamming, he's also lying to you. S877 says no such thing. -- Shmuel (Seymour

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/24/2007 at 05:42 PM, Thompson, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: While you and I agree it is SPAM, the U CAN SPAM act was passed into law -- perhaps it is not the bill our friend has quoted, but never-the-less it was passed into law. Alas, yes, but S977 does *not*

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/24/2007 at 06:13 PM, Kenneth E Tomiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Wavemind replied: I will honor your request and remove your contact from my list. As an FYI, by law this email is not spam. Rule 1: spammers lie. Under Bills.1618 Title III passed by the 105th U.S.

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
: Thursday, 24 May 2007 1:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? snip--- As is my want, I always respond with a terse opinion of spam when it appears to be a real email

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Ron Hawkins
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2007 3:52 PM To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? Rick, I'll be stuck with it soon myself. I'm transferring to our Santa Clara headquarters next week. I hope

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Bill Dodge
Me too. I thought they got a copy of the WAVV registration list because I get a lot of unwanted solicitations right after WAVV every year. -- Bill Dodge email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (703)627-2455 If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there. Lewis Carroll If you

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 23 May 2007 18:44:22 -0500, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did and forwarded it to Darren. Too late. They already accomplished what they wanted to - even if Darren removes them now. That also won't keep them from spamming in the future unless we all change our email addresses.

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?, one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? As is my want, I always respond with a terse

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Ed Gould
On May 24, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Ron Hawkins wrote: Rick, I'll be stuck with it soon myself. I'm transferring to our Santa Clara headquarters next week. I hope no-one beats me up for taking a job from an American... Ron Is it too late to change our immigration laws:) ? Ed

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Ed Gould
On May 24, 2007, at 7:41 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: - SNIP-- --- Too late. They already accomplished what they wanted to - even if Darren removes them now. That also won't keep them from spamming in the

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Paul Dineen
Yes, I have received the same. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/24/2007 7:42:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Safe to say I would never consider giving them any business and I'm sure most if not all the other spam-ees feel the same. BTW, we don't need another 100 posts saying I got one too. Off to

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Mark H. Young
On Wed, 23 May 2007 16:18:48 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?, one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that it is in

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Hardee, Charles H
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject Need help

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Hardee, Charles H
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? On May 24, 2007, at 7:41 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: - SNIP

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:12:57 -0400, Bob Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're spamming the postership. This address got the spam but my work address, which is subscribed but almost never posted from, did not. If so, it's an old postership, since I haven't posted here for quite some time,

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
Tony Harminc wrote: They claim to be an IBM Business Partner. I wonder if IBM would be interested to know that thay are partnering with spammers. Partnering with???!! I get *lots* of unsolicited email from IBM for product announcements, seminars, webcasts, etc. The ones I find most offensive

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/23/2007 at 09:43 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Two, in fact. Yet another company to ignore. Oh, I won't ignore it; I'll complain to his Internet providers. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/24/2007 at 12:42 PM, Ron Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As is my want, I always respond with a terse opinion of spam when it appears to be a real email address. His response is that some wacko bill in the US defines it as non-spam because it has unsubscribe tagged

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Neil Duffee
On 2007.05.24, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz [EMAIL PROTECTED] main.lst wrote about Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM- MAIN readership? to IBM-Main: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/23/2007 at 09:43 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Two, in fact. Yet another company to ignore. Oh, I

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
As an FYI, by law this email is not spam. along with the Congress citation. Which, according to an American lawyer I know, is bogus. The law was never passed (as of a year ago). Unsolicited e-mail is SPAM. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? As an FYI, by law this email is not spam. along

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) I told them: I would not contract with any organization that culls email addresses from just anywhere. I do add them to my list and warn

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
Kenneth E Tomiak wrote: [snip] Since others recognize the sleezy practice I now will tell my colleagues to avoid them. And start a web page with them on top. You guys have way too much time on your hands. If WaveMind's spam managed to get past our SpamBlocker, I probably deleted their

[META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?, one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that it is in response to anything specific that I posted. Has anybody else received these? --

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. me too -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Peter X. DeFabritus
Yes, a few hours ago, and I immediately unsubscribed. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Richard Peurifoy
Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?, one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that it is in response to anything specific that I posted. Has anybody

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Rich Smrcina
I got one earlier today as well. Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?, one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that it is in response to anything

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Steve Comstock
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?, one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that it is in response to anything specific that I posted. Has anybody

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? I just received two e-mails from

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Wed, 23 May 2007 16:18:48 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?, one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that it is in response to anything

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Gregory, Gary G
I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?, one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that it is in response to anything specific that I posted. Has anybody else received these? I received on

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Bob Rutledge
They're spamming the postership. This address got the spam but my work address, which is subscribed but almost never posted from, did not. Bob Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?, one addressed to

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Ed Gould
I did and forwarded it to Darren. Ed On May 23, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?, one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Don Leahy
I received one too. I spammed him right back by offering *him* the services of my (one-man) consulting firm. :-) - Original Message - From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? I just

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? I just received two e-mails

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?, one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that it is in response to anything specific that I posted. Has

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Ron Hawkins
Subject: Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? I received one too. I spammed him right back by offering *him* the services of my (one-man) consulting firm. :-) - Original Message - From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:18 PM Subject

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip--- As is my want, I always respond with a terse opinion of spam when it appears to be a real email address. His response is that some wacko bill in the US defines it as non-spam because it has unsubscribe tagged to the bottom. Seeing as I