Sorry to be so late in chiming in, but some health issues have limited
my online-time, and I'm playing catch-up.
The reference to the Secret Service's mainframe 60-percent uptime
reminded me of an issue from 30-some years ago. I was called on the
carpet because the supervisor of our remote
Shane Ginnane wrote:
Whenever these sort of threads arise I always wonder who amongst us is quietly sniggering in the
shadows.
We can probably all agree the machine will ship second half this year - so let's say announcement July,
shipping October.
That means several of the usual suspects on
Does anyone have opinions on the trade press rumors that the next z
frames will house not only z-architecture engines but also power and
x64 blades?
In particular, how would you see these being used?
what advantage would you see/imagine in putting power or x64 blades in
the same box as z-engines
Whenever these sort of threads arise I always wonder who amongst us is quietly
sniggering in the
shadows.
We can probably all agree the machine will ship second half this year - so
let's say announcement July,
shipping October.
That means several of the usual suspects on this list already have
There are probably quite a few other members of this list who know quite a bit,
but are under NDA, and can't discuss it.
Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au 5/26/2010 7:56 AM
Whenever these sort of threads arise I always wonder who amongst us is quietly
sniggering in the
shadows.
We can
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote:
There are probably quite a few other members of this list who know quite a
bit, but are under NDA, and can't discuss it.
Sure, but it's been discussed publicly at user group meetings. If you have a
local user group and
On Tue, 25 May 2010 15:05:13 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
In particular, how would you see these being used?
what advantage would you see/imagine in putting power or x64 blades in
the same box as z-engines (vs separate boxes)?
Suppose they offload Java to the blades; discontinue the
zAAps; and
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote:
Suppose they offload Java to the blades; discontinue the
zAAps; and declare an armistice with Neon zPrime?
Now that would be interesting!
--
For
zTheFollowUp
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com wrote:
http://www.mainframezone.com/it-management/z-vendor-watch-znext-or-z11-e
ither-way-its-coming-soon
If they actually call it zNext what will they call the one after it
zAfterNext ?
zplane, zplane
Richard, Vickie, and Randy Pinion
--- mpac...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 12:43:19 -0400
zTheFollowUp
On Tue, May 25, 2010
In a message dated 5/25/2010 10:59:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
ken.porow...@cit.com writes:
If they actually call it zNext what will they call the one after it
zAfterNext ?
More likely z EOD
--
For IBM-MAIN
That is interesting, but I thought another part of the article was more
interesting. On the second page there is a heading Governments Invest
in Modernization with the following statement.
The timing of this research is intriguing; it comes on the heels of
reports that the U.S. Secret Service
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[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's
Coming Soon!
That is interesting, but I
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
Depends. What are they running? How do they measure up time? We are still
stuck in the 1970s for all intents and purposes. We run CICS with VSAM. No
RDMS. No Websphere. 100% COBOL. We do run some 3270 screen
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Behalf Of Chris Craddock
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 2:09 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming Soon!
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM, McKown
Chris Craddock wrote:
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
Depends. What are they running? How do they measure up time? We are still
stuck in the 1970s for all intents and purposes. We run CICS with VSAM. No
RDMS. No Websphere. 100% COBOL. We do
Understand, with a Bank, that may be forbidden by law (debits first processing
being illegal...).
In the US, maybe.
I used to work for a Canadian bank: debit first was allowed.
People in the US have to realise that not all of their laws apply to other
countries.
-
Too busy driving to stop for
snip
Furthermore, management is quick to point out that the IT folks
are not responsive to the rapid change of business needs, yet
management will not fund training in new or updated technologies
for their staff (nor even for conceptual updates for themselves).
While I'm at it, another
On 25 May 2010 12:37:52 -0700, eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) wrote:
Understand, with a Bank, that may be forbidden by law (debits first
processing being illegal...).
In the US, maybe.
I used to work for a Canadian bank: debit first was allowed.
People in the US have to realise that not all
On a related topic -
Does anyone have opinions on the trade press rumors that the next z
frames will house not only z-architecture engines but also power and
x64 blades?
In particular, how would you see these being used?
what advantage would you see/imagine in putting power or x64 blades in
the
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:05 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's
Coming Soon!
On a related topic -
Does anyone
And when libraries get updated, we can get burned if we don't understand how
updated specifications apply or don't apply to our business.
Yes, I know.
I worked for an international wholesaler, with 34 offices in 23 countries, and
(especially) applib updates always caused grief.
Sometimes,
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf
On a related topic -
Does anyone have opinions on the trade press rumors that the next z
frames will house not only z-architecture engines but also power and
x64 blades?
In particular, how would you
snip
If they actually call it zNext what will they call the one after it
zAfterNext ?
unsnip--
Interesting thought: if they continue with numbers, how long before the
z28
, May 25, 2010 12:31 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: z/Vendor Watch: zNext or z11? Either Way, It's Coming
Soon!
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:23 PM
To: IBM
On Tue, 25 May 2010 15:17:08 -0500, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net
wrote:
Interesting thought: if they continue with numbers, how long before the
z28 ??? :-)
One a year would make it 17 years, which is when I will (hopefully) retire.
One a year would make it 17 years, which is when I will (hopefully) retire.
Since it seems to be every two years, 34 appears to be the better estimate.
By then, with the 'technology dividend' a 9000 MIPS processor will be less than
an MSU.
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
-snip--
In serious line of business applications with, competing requirements
from many internal departments, it is often that IT is the central and
only organization that understand multiple aspects of the business and
how they
-snip-
On a related topic -
Does anyone have opinions on the trade press rumors that the next z
frames will house not only z-architecture engines but also power and x64
blades?
In particular, how would you see these being used? What
Ken Porowski wrote:
http://www.mainframezone.com/it-management/z-vendor-watch-znext-or-z11-e
ither-way-its-coming-soon
If they actually call it zNext what will they call the one after it
zAfterNext ?
LOL. They *always* refer to the upcoming System z hardware release as
zNext until it's
Kirk Wolf wrote:
On a related topic -
Does anyone have opinions on the trade press rumors that the next z
frames will house not only z-architecture engines but also power and
x64 blades?
In particular, how would you see these being used?
what advantage would you see/imagine in putting power or
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote:
-snip--
In serious line of business applications with, competing requirements from
many internal departments, it is often that IT is the central and only
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