Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-23 Thread Chris Mason
December, 2006 6:40 PM Subject: Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3 In a message dated 12/20/2006 10:03:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris may have misunderstood the purpose of Ed's post (I sure couldn't figure it out) and taken offense where none was intended

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-20 Thread Chris Mason
: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, 19 December, 2006 9:32 PM Subject: Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3 FWIW, here's a quote from the Health Checker User's Guide: If your component or product brings the system down with it, (GRS or RACF, for example), you do not need to do any

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-20 Thread Chris Mason
: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, 19 December, 2006 7:00 PM Subject: Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3 In a message dated 12/19/2006 10:08:52 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Appealing to the use of USS in redbooks doesn't count - although I guess it ought

Re: IBM and official names (was: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-20 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 15:38, Bill Klein wrote: Like USS the letters LE are now not supposed to be used in official IBM documents.  I know that the dox people have accepted RCF's on it whenever I still find it (where Language Environment is supposed to be used. Like USS, once can find

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:28:26 +0100, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed I cannot see what you are intending to prove here. It seems Ed made the simple mistake of searching for Unix rather than USS. I took the trouble to check your first reference and it is a large (343 items) hit list

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-20 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 12/20/2006 9:49:40 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Frankly, Chris, I find your post and your condescending attitude to be offensive. It is highly critical and adds nothing. The above comment is, IMHO, completely out of line. Ed was simply

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-20 Thread Greg Shirey
And you thought this comment was called for? Chris may have misunderstood the purpose of Ed's post (I sure couldn't figure it out) and taken offense where none was intended, but was this sarcasm helpful? Greg -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-20 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 12/20/2006 10:03:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris may have misunderstood the purpose of Ed's post (I sure couldn't figure it out) and taken offense where none was intended, but was this sarcasm helpful? Seems like only a few weeks ago

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-19 Thread John Eells
Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/12/2006 at 12:31 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why not? IBM does. IBM has posted, *ON THIS LIST*, that USS is *not* a correct abbreviation for Unix System Services. Individual IBM employees may have misused the term,

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-19 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 12/19/2006 7:59:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: approved as a short name for z/OS UNIX System Services. (It wasn't because nobody tried.) Believe me, I'd love to have to do less typing! Yazbut the formal rules and the common usage don't

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-19 Thread Chris Mason
] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, 19 December, 2006 2:57 PM Subject: Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3 Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED] isx.prod.on.blackberry, on 12/12/2006 at 12:31 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why not? IBM

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-19 Thread John Eells
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Yazbut the formal rules and the common usage don't bear much resemblance. The Open Edition developers seem to have adopted USS in their tags and sigs and appears in the title of many of their Redbooks.

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-19 Thread Chris Mason
PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, 19 December, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3 In a message dated 12/19/2006 7:59:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: approved as a short name for z/OS UNIX System

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-19 Thread Ray Mullins
-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Yazbut the formal rules and the common usage don't bear much resemblance. The Open Edition developers seem to have adopted USS in their tags and sigs and appears in the title of many of their Redbooks. http

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-19 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 12/19/2006 10:08:52 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Appealing to the use of USS in redbooks doesn't count - although I guess it ought to. ITSO employs editors who are supposed to check that the party line is observed. If USS is used extensively in

IBM and official names (was: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-19 Thread Bill Klein
Like USS the letters LE are now not supposed to be used in official IBM documents. I know that the dox people have accepted RCF's on it whenever I still find it (where Language Environment is supposed to be used. Like USS, once can find LE in macros and other software (and probably Red Books)

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-19 Thread Greg Shirey
FWIW, here's a quote from the Health Checker User's Guide: If your component or product brings the system down with it, (GRS or RACF, for example), you do not need to do any deletion or check clean up. However, if your product or component does occasionally come up and down (USS, for example)

Re: IBM and official names (was: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-19 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:38:02 -0600, Bill Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like USS the letters LE are now not supposed to be used in official IBM documents. I know that the dox people have accepted RCF's on it whenever I still find it (where Language Environment is supposed to be used. ... At

Re: IBM and official names (was: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-19 Thread Gregory, Gary G
, 2006 5:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM and official names (was: S80A loading CEEMENU3 On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:38:02 -0600, Bill Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like USS the letters LE are now not supposed to be used in official IBM documents. I know that the dox people have

Re: IBM and official names (was: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-19 Thread Steve Comstock
Patrick O'Keefe wrote: On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 14:38:02 -0600, Bill Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like USS the letters LE are now not supposed to be used in official IBM documents. I know that the dox people have accepted RCF's on it whenever I still find it (where Language Environment is

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/12/2006 at 12:31 PM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Why not? IBM does. IBM has posted, *ON THIS LIST*, that USS is *not* a correct abbreviation for Unix System Services. Individual IBM employees may have misused the term, just as individual IBM employees may

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-15 Thread Chris Mason
Subject: Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3 On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:31:31 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes I know I shouldn't call it USS Why not? IBM does. There is only one (pedantic) individual that claims that. Thank you, but I don't think I'm the only one Because UNIX

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-15 Thread Greg Shirey
I thought the original official acronym for UNIX System Services was OMVS. :-) This thread is obviously off-course, and not to negate anything Chris said, but if you search the APAR database, you will find hundreds of hits for USS which do not mean Unformatted System Services. So, IBM may indeed

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-15 Thread Chris Mason
, in the other case, TN3270E. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: Greg Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, 15 December, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3 I thought the original official acronym for UNIX System

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I'm afraid I got carried away with my approach to pointing out the exclusivity of the VTAM USS. IBM has re-used TLA's before: PCB -- Programme Control Block PCB -- Printed Circuit Board When in doubt. PANIC!! -- For

S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-12 Thread Beesley, Paul
We have recently upgraded from z/OS 1.4 to 1.7. When attempting to rebuild the Book Server catalog, I get these symptoms from the USS[1] task, so the catalog never gets fully rebuilt IEW4000I FETCH FOR MODULE CEEMENU3 FROM DDNAME -LNKLST- FAILED BECAUSE INSUFFICIENT STORAGE WAS AVAILABLE.

AW: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-12 Thread Volkmar Langer
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Beesley, Paul Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. Dezember 2006 13:26 An: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Betreff: S80A loading CEEMENU3 We have recently upgraded from z/OS 1.4 to 1.7. When attempting to rebuild the Book Server catalog, I get these symptoms from the USS[1] task

[SPAM] RE: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-12 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
: S80A loading CEEMENU3 We have recently upgraded from z/OS 1.4 to 1.7. When attempting to rebuild the Book Server catalog, I get these symptoms from the USS[1] task, so the catalog never gets fully rebuilt IEW4000I FETCH FOR MODULE CEEMENU3 FROM DDNAME -LNKLST- FAILED BECAUSE INSUFFICIENT STORAGE

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:31:31 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes I know I shouldn't call it USS Why not? IBM does. There is only one (pedantic) individual that claims that. Thank you, but I don't think I'm the only one Because UNIX is a trade-mark, IBM came up with UNIX

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-12 Thread Beesley, Paul
and the process now works ok Regards Paul -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volkmar Langer Sent: 12 December 2006 12:32 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: AW: S80A loading CEEMENU3 Hi Paul, I'm not really shure, but there are two

[SPAM] RE: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-12 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
By the way - If you are not comfortable with giving EVERY user that much storage, you can have the MAXASSSIZE set for individual userids via RACF or TOP SECRET. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 - This e-mail may contain confidential or

Re: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Because UNIX is a trade-mark, IBM came up with UNIX System Services (USS) for short. An interesting hypothesis Before, during, and after my tenure at IBM, that's what I was told by IBM support teams. When in doubt. PANIC!!

Re: [SPAM] RE: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-12 Thread Sam Bass
:[SPAM] RE: S80A loading CEEMENU3 Have you checked your MAXASSSIZE setting in BPXPRMxx? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Re: [SPAM] RE: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-12 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Sam, From the z/OS V1R6.0 MVS Initialization and Tuning Reference: Note: The IEFUSI user exit can modify the region size of an address space. Users are strongly discouraged from altering the region size of address spaces in the OMVS subsystem category. Per your clip, IEFUSI should be bypassed

Re: [SPAM] RE: S80A loading CEEMENU3

2006-12-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:07:17 -0600, Sam Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have an IEFUSI exit that checks for REGION=0M, and then changes that to a limit, then MAXASSIZE will be set to that hard limit. From the z/OS V1R6.0 MVS Initialization and Tuning Reference: Note: The IEFUSI user exit