Hi List,
We have found the problem. Everything is now
working like a charm
Nir
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The 413-08 is issued because rmm rejected the volume and the request was
specific; no other volume is acceptable, so OPEN fails the request in this
way. This is what happens when the Volume Mount processing installation
exit rejects a volume.
The ways round this are;
1. Issue RMM CV volser
Too bad the author of that article didn't know about the goings-on between IBM
and PSI; that would have really spiced it up. (-:
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary
Green
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:48 AM
To: [EMAIL
Perhaps I should send microsoft a copy of our daily report which almost
always contains the usual (and most of the time more than one) comments:
rebooted server abc (on the TINKER TOY PLATFORM)
did an iis reset on server xyz, (again..on the TINKER TOY PLATFORM)
.
meanwhile those
Hello list,
Is there a way to determine when a message is DOM-ed from the operator
console?
We had a few occasions lately where our VTS issued a message about an
intervention required situation to the operator (CBR3762E Library TS1CL1
intervention required). Some time later the problem was
At 04:00 PM 4/11/2007, you wrote:
We use Top Secret. A consultant made a recommendation late last year
that Top Secret should be the first task started during the IPL
procedure. The Security Administrator has requested this change.
Currently, we start Top Secret after JES2 completes its start
Hi,
I have a copybook inside a copybook. The first copybook is using COPY option
with REPLACE. The inside copybook is not getting expanded during compilation
and hence I am getting compile errors.
Is there any option to expand all the nested copybooks.
Thanks,
Amlan
Hi,
Is there a way to find out the staus of a online file in CICS from a batch job.
I want to find in batch whether the file is open or closed in CICS.
Thanks,
Amlan
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Can I change the existing ML2 volsers in the HSM control dataset ?
(for some ML2 disk volumes we gave some stupid names, and we would like
to rename the volumes )
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I didn't read the whole thread, so maybe my suggestion is duplicated.
I had to do something similar and I found very nice stuff in dfsort website to
work with dcollect output:
http://www-304.ibm.com/jct01004c/systems/support/storage/software/sort/mvs/srtmdwn.html
Look for dcollect symbols and
Thanks for your input everyoneI really appreciate it.
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:15:11 +0200 Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
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SSI code 14.
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Thanks to all who helped. I changed the status to MASTER and it worked. The
reason why a user was using a SCRATCH tape is because we were performing a DRP
exercise for the client.
Many thanks again.
Mike Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The 413-08 is issued because rmm rejected the
One of the many useful scanner options in SmartIS (North America) a.k.aXINFO:
http://www.horizont-it.com/public_html/xinfo/xxrdcice.pdf
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I know very little of how TSS works, but until there is an active
security system present, OMVS will not initiate, because it relies on
the security system to provide it with UID's and GID's for all
(including the root) OMVS processes. Waiting until after JES2 is active
to start TSS probably
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:35:06 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DASDONLY logstreams don't require CF structures.
I thought those were going away.
Only when basic sysplex does. How do you expect people to run
CICS who are not running a || sysplex? Not to mention other
subsystems or
From the COBOL Language Reference: COPY statements can be nested.
However, nested COPY statements cannot contain the REPLACING phrase, and
a COPY statement with the REPLACING phrase cannot contain nested COPY
statements.
What you're trying to do is not allowed by the compiler.
-Original
Typically a security product should to be started before any AS that
needs Unix attributes. The Unix attributes are provided by
RACF/ACF2/TSS.
I do not know TSS, but ACF2 starts via SYS1.PARMLIB(CAISEC00).
I'd guess TSS can be brought up the same way.
Hth...
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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: When to start security product?
---snip--
We use Top Secret. A consultant made a recommendation
On 11 Apr 2007 08:55:35 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Subject: Are there standard IBM dsects for the P-L-O functions that
require one?
Or need I write my own?
I did not find any and so I wrote my own. You probably ought to do the
same.
Why the unprintable should everyone who
It sounds like Polk County bought a non-IBM machine
For Avery, though, the problem wasn't the software itself. It was the
support that his organization needed to go with it. If he could have run
an IBM-supported z/OS on the 7060, he probably wouldn't have bought the
new plug-compatible
Hello dear listers,
Once I installed z/OS 1.7 I discovered something that seems to be running
improperly.
/* REXX */
TRACE R
DSN = '''IBMUSER.JCLLIB'''
C = LISTDSI(DSN)
I would suggest, if legal, that someone agree to maintain the structures and
make them available to interested parties.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Clark Morris
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:27 AM
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At 09:57 AM 4/12/2007, you wrote:
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We use Top Secret. A
Why the unprintable should everyone who wants to use the P-L-O
functions have to write their own DSECTs?
Because it's an instruction, not a service. Hardware engineers don't
write dsects.
I would suggest, if legal, that someone agree to maintain the
structures and make them available to
On Thursday 12 April 2007 10:29, Nasuh KARAHALLI wrote:
Hello dear listers,
Once I installed z/OS 1.7 I discovered something that seems to be running
improperly.
/* REXX */
TRACE R
DSN = '''IBMUSER.JCLLIB'''
C = LISTDSI(DSN)
SAY C
SAY SYSREASON
SAY 'THE DATASET ' DSN ' IS CREATED ON '
FYI,
There are ways that one can sort-of get around this (well-documented)
restriction by using the REPLACE statement rather than the REPLACING phrase
of the COPY statement, but these can complicated and error-prone.
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 9:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Rexx LISTDSI problem on z/OS 1.7
Hello dear listers,
Once I installed z/OS 1.7 I discovered
Nasuh KARAHALLI wrote:
Hello dear listers,
Once I installed z/OS 1.7 I discovered something that seems to be running
improperly.
/* REXX */
TRACE R
DSN = '''IBMUSER.JCLLIB'''
C =
Mark Jacobs wrote:
I just copied and executed your rexx exec and it worked correctly without
any problems.
snip
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Hi Mark, the interesting point is that, 2 months ago I upgraded our XRC SDM
and K systems from z/OS 1.5 to z/OS 1.7 in the same way but it works fine
over there. On OMVS Unix
Hi,
Do you have any STEPLIB in your logon procedure ?
Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos
Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
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John McKown wrote :
I don't have z/OS 1.7 to test. However, the main eep point for me is the
fact that the PSW is point to location zero. This usually means that some
subroutine has not been linked in properly. R15 is pointing to this location.
If
I were you, I'd look at what is at the
Steve Comstock wrote :
Where you running the exec under the shell?
snip :
Steve, the rexx code resides in a PDS dataset and I just type ex command in
the front of this rexx member, I try to execute it in my TSO ISPF session
Best regards.
Nasuh Karahalli
Ituriel do Nascimento Neto wrote :
Do you have any STEPLIB in your logon procedure ?
snip
Unfortunately NO, I use default custompac logon procedure IKJACCNT with no
STEPLIB..
Regards.
Nasuh Karahalli
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nasuh KARAHALLI
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Rexx LISTDSI problem on z/OS 1.7
snip
John, last week I happened to apply some CICS PTFs, after
Nasuh KARAHALLI wrote:
Hello dear listers,
Once I installed z/OS 1.7 I discovered something that seems to be running
improperly.
/* REXX */
TRACE R
DSN = '''IBMUSER.JCLLIB'''
C =
Well, an easy way to determine if another LISTDSI is hiding in the bushes,
so to speak, is to do an M LISTDSI, member scan, in the LISTDD function.
Do not forget to turn on scanning LPA and LINKLST.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 4/12/2007 9:37:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Because it's an instruction, not a service. Hardware engineers don't write
dsects.
However, IBM's software people have written DSECTs for many hardware
structures (aka control blocks), such as
Hi Mark, the interesting point is that, 2 months ago I upgraded our XRC SDM
and K systems from z/OS 1.5 to z/OS 1.7 in the same way but it works fine
over there. On OMVS Unix Shell when you issue OEDIT command does it
also runs properly ?
Thanks.
Nasuh Karahalli
I just tried an OEDIT x
Is it just me, or does anyone else have the understanding that an
interface needs written documentation?
Example: If you are using some of the Unix Systems Services, or TCP/IP,
you are told to look in the macro library for doc.
It seems to me that if a system service is documented (say a
In a message dated 4/12/2007 11:10:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I just tried an OEDIT x command and the ISPF editor started right up
Well maybe a corrupted DSN in LOGON PROC? Guess a simple test would be to run
Nasuh,
just follow the advive from John to look in the dump at R14 and scroll
backward unil you see an eyecatacher. If it's an IBM module you might
verify the SMPE apply jobouput or use AMBLIST to detect unresolved references.
Roland
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Well I hate to open this can of worms but I wonder if anybody has
suggestions on how to prevent damaging a PDSE in a dual SYSPLEX
environment running a MIMPLEX. I am running NORMAL not EXTENDED
PDSESHARING and I know that IBM (and CA) does NOT support this mode for
cross-system/sysplex updates so
Hi,
I am trying to determine if an OFFLINE volume exists without trying to
VARY it on-line. I would like to automate a manual process of checking
for off-line volumes our storage team performs. The process is only
marginally automated because it currently requires manual updates to
Sam,
Have you looked at using D M=CONFIG or DS P,ucb,number ?
Cheers,
Gary Diehl
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Of Knutson, Sam
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:57 PM
Subject: IBM IOSCDR service or way to find if OFFLINE volume exists from
z/OS
Hi,
I am trying to determine if an OFFLINE volume
(IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote:
In a message dated 4/12/2007 9:37:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Because it's an instruction, not a service. Hardware engineers don't write
dsects.
However, IBM's software people have written DSECTs for many hardware
What are the odds that IBM has a PLO parm list mapping for PL/X that
they use internally? Pretty good I'll wager.
What are the odds it stays internal? Pretty good I guess. :-)
OTOH, just about everyone that needs a PLO DSECT has already written
one.
Bob Shannon
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:33:45 -0400 Bob Shannon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: What are the odds that IBM has a PLO parm list mapping for PL/X that
:they use internally? Pretty good I'll wager.
:What are the odds it stays internal? Pretty good I guess. :-)
:OTOH, just about everyone that needs a
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 13:07:21 -0500, Dennis Trojak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well I hate to open this can of worms but I wonder if anybody has
suggestions on how to prevent damaging a PDSE in a dual SYSPLEX
environment running a MIMPLEX.
Don't do it if it hurts. :-)
I am running NORMAL not
Hi Gary,
I don't see that those would help. I want to chase down all the offline
volumes which have a volume of any volser sitting on them. This is not
pretty but almost works.
/* REXX */
/* Created April 12 2007 by Sam Knutson for Storage team */
say ''
say 'Searching for OFF-LINE DASD
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:57:13 -0400, Knutson, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am trying to determine if an OFFLINE volume exists without trying to
VARY it on-line.
snip
What remains contains some volumes which appear valid on z/OS until you
try to VARY them on-line.
snip
VARY
I'm frankly quite surprised that people weren't aware of the death of 31-bit
z/OS.
IBM was NOT keeping it a secret!
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So it looks like a new z9 BC has a much lower price net, and it's certainly
a fantastically better machine.
And how do you reacon you put that in your attaché case when setting out to
a customer location for doing a demo???
Jantje.
In a message dated 4/12/2007 1:57:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am trying to determine if an OFFLINE volume exists without trying to
VARY it on-line.
Build a subroutine to do one I/O to a device, whose device number is passed
as a parameter, using STARTIO or
It's not dead! It's restin'... Lovely OS, in'it? Beautiful Plumage! It's
probably pinein' for Armonk...
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Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 16:01
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Subject: Re:
I can only assume I was asleep at the wheel! (as is usually the case)
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:01 PM
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Went off to one of my ISV vendors and asked if the JAVA coding in their
product would be run on the zAAP processor I am implementing on my two
z9BC machines. The response was
In order for XXX to use the ZAAP engines, it would have to be started in
a special enclave eligible for ZAAP
RACF, ACF2 or Top Secret.Protect us from ourselves.
My gun cabinet has a lock. If it did not, it would be a box.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dennis Trojak
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:07 PM
To: [EMAIL
Went off to one of my ISV vendors and asked if the JAVA coding in
their
product would be run on the zAAP processor I am implementing on my two
z9BC machines. The response was
In order for XXX to use the ZAAP engines, it would have to be
started
in
a special enclave eligible for ZAAP
Jan MOEYERSONS wrote:
So it looks like a new z9 BC has a much lower price net, and it's certainly
a fantastically better machine.
And how do you reacon you put that in your attachi case when setting out to
a customer location for doing a demo???
With great difficulty. :-)
Any
I agree that the technology is certainly getting better at allowing this
sort of thing, but:
a) can be difficult at some customer shops due to internal security
concerns. Some may not even let you connect to their network without a
virus scan, let alone get out to the internet.
b) IMHO
---snip-
If I were running any of the other 3 security products (RACF, ACF2,
DEADBOLT) .. I would try to run it the same.
--unsnip
IIRC, RACF doesn't need to be brought up as such. Just run the task
that
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/05/2007
at 12:03 PM, David Day [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Go back and look at your pops manuals for the last 10 years or so.
Note the new instructions from one release to another. Those
instructions were added to facilitate functionality that was
incorporated into
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04/10/2007
at 09:46 AM, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I define real as those services provided by the box, sans z/VM.
Isn't PR/SM implemented by a special version of CP running everything
with SIE? Sounds virtual to me.
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In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 04/05/2007
at 03:53 PM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
zSeries HiperSockets is a technology that provides high-speed
TCP/IP connectivity between virtual machines (under z/VM)
within System z servers.
That text gives no restriction on the operating
---snip--
Perhaps I should send microsoft a copy of our daily report which
almost always contains the usual (and most of the time more than one)
comments:
rebooted server abc (on the TINKER TOY PLATFORM)
did an iis reset on server xyz,
---snip--
John, last week I happened to apply some CICS PTFs, after that during
IPL time below messages launched to appear in syslog :
IEA093I MODULE IEANUC01 CONTAINS UNRESOLVED WEAK EXTERNAL
REFERENCE
IFFIOM
Amen to what Chris said.
Java is the first implementer of the zAAP engine, and its use is auto-magic.
zAAP is not just for Java apps, it's just that Java was the first app to
get their foot in the door, just as DB2 V8 was first for zIIP exploitation
for certain joins, stored procedures, user
Rich Smrcina wrote:
I agree that the technology is certainly getting better at allowing
this sort of thing, but:
a) can be difficult at some customer shops due to internal security
concerns. Some may not even let you connect to their network without
a virus scan, let alone get out to the
--snip
Is it just me, or does anyone else have the understanding that an
interface needs written documentation?
Example: If you are using some of the Unix Systems Services, or TCP/IP,
you are told to look in the macro library for doc.
It seems
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gary Green
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Response to Timothy's Article...
http://mainframe.typepad.com/blog/2007/04/whats_the_point.html
Another point of
--snip-
Is there a way to find out the staus of a online file in CICS from a
batch job. I want to find in batch whether the file is open or closed in
CICS.
unsnip-
I'm not sure if the MacKinney product for
You could write an EXCI program to find out the status. If you can't
find the status you could do a EXEC CICS READ and look @ the EIBRCODE.
Gary Garland Gregory, MS
CA
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Todd Burch wrote:
Java is the first implementer of the zAAP engine, and its use is auto-magic.
zAAP is not just for Java apps, it's just that Java was the first app to
get their foot in the door, just as DB2 V8 was first for zIIP exploitation
for certain joins, stored procedures, user defined
Has anyone successfully used the RMF post-processor to read SMF data from
LBI tapes? (BLKSIZE 32K)
Currently, I receive an S013-E1 abend. z/OS is at 1.7.
I can read the tape back into DF/SORT and have it convert the data back to a
block size less than 32K, and all is well. But, I just
My all-time favorite Monty Python routine!
Norwegian Blue Armonk? grin
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/~ebarnes/python/dead-parrot.htm
Bob Richards
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:10 PM
(Maniacal laughter!)
And, of course for the really destitute ISV living out of his/her car,
10 years ago, faced with a sudden doubling of premises rent, we
brainstormed the idea of sticking the whole office into a 40 foot
container with a satellite dish on the back of a rig to be parked
For those z/OS professionals who are [shudder] NOT familiar with this little
gem, allow me to paraphrase...
This 31-bit OS is no more!
It has ceased to x'BE'! (d'190', b'1011 1110')
It's expired and gone to meet 'is coder!
It's a critical stop!
Bereft of machine code, it abends in
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is EOV detected when the last record is written, or, when an attempt
is done to
write the last record?
EOV is detected as the tape drive is writing a block of records and a
physical EOV position is detected by the drive. There is still enough
usable tape past that
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Burch
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: zAAP Eligible Work
Amen to what Chris said.
Java is the first implementer of the zAAP engine,
There is *usually* a fair amount of tape left behind the EOV marker. (Or at
least there was in the good old days -- I have not fiddled with a physical
EOV marker since the days of 2400' reels. I'm sure someone will point it out
if what I say is not relevant to carts.) The exact amount of tape left
I believe it is JAVA applications that are using the IBM JVM (Java Virtual
Machine). If your ISV uses a different JVM then I believe it will not use
the zAAP engine.
To accumulate data at the address space and service class period level on
how much zAAP and zIIP resources might be consumed if
I have called the zAAP a JPM (JAVA Physical Machine). How accurate would
that be? I say that because the processor is no longer a general purpose
processor, so it can not run normal work.
Tom Moulder
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:15:11 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-snip-
Is there a way to determine when a message is DOM-ed from the operator
console?
-snip-
In addition to the SSI, you may also be able to use an extended MCS console.
See the DOM(ALL) parameter.
Scott Fagen
http://www.zjournal.com/index.cfm?section=articleaid=771
CICS Transaction Server 3.2 has an open beta, meaning just about anybody
(with a mainframe) can get the beta version for testing and exploration.
Enjoy.
- - - - -
Timothy Sipples
IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect
Specializing in
Al Sherkow wrote:
I believe it is JAVA applications that are using the IBM JVM (Java Virtual
Machine). If your ISV uses a different JVM then I believe it will not use
the zAAP engine.
To accumulate data at the address space and service class period level on
how much zAAP and zIIP resources
Nope. Works fine on prior releases with the zIIP web deliverable and
some APARs for z/OS and DB2 V8. We have been using this on z/OS 1.7.1
without any zIIP or zAAP installed to monitor eligible time.
Best Regards,
Sam Knutson, GEICO
Performance and
Sam, is this z9 only ???
What about projecting from z/990 ???
Shane ...
Nope. Works fine on prior releases with the zIIP web deliverable and
some APARs for z/OS and DB2 V8. We have been using this on z/OS 1.7.1
without any zIIP or zAAP installed to monitor eligible time.
-Original
Something else to consider are two IEAOPTxx parameters for WLM control of
zAAP eligible workloads.
IFACROSSOVER controls whether standard CPs will be used for zAAP eligible
work. If YES (the default), then standard CPs will be used along with zAAP
CPs. zAAP CPs will be preferred, but standard
John, publicly, no. The only workload that I know of today is Java. Yes,
it's touted as a Java processor, 'cuz that's the only thing using it
today. Read between the lines from this redbook:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG246386/wwhelp/wwhimpl/java/html/wwhel
p.htm
Quoting:
When a
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:02:28 -0500, McKown, John
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After all, z/VM does. Is z/VM so much superior to z/OS crooked grin?
I tell you 3 times: Yes. And XEDIT is way better than ISPF, too. And VM had
TCP/IP first. And Rexx. Nyah. }:-)
Alan Altmark
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