Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-21 Thread Edward Jaffe
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: There was also the secondary use of the high bit to signal AM24 vs AM31 in addresses used for branching to/from subroutines. This required replacing BALR with BASR and BR with BSM to do the AM Mode Switch. And, the low-order bit of the address now indicates

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Edward Jaffe
Timothy Sipples wrote: Introducing the System z10 Business Class: http://www.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/25584.wss Targeted toward x86 users. Not one mention of z/OS. Disgusting. :-( -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA

Re: C03 abend when omitting CEE.SCEERUN from JCL

2008-10-21 Thread Mürsel Ta#351;g#305;n
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Re: C03 abend when omitting CEE.SCEERUN from JCL

2008-10-21 Thread Mürsel Ta#351;g#305;n
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Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Shane
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 23:17 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Targeted toward x86 users. Not one mention of z/OS. Disgusting. :-( Not only, but also ... Try getting the datasheet from that link. Who teaches these people about how to construct (meaningful) web pages. Bah

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Timothy Sipples
There's more information on the new System z10 BC now available here (click on the top graphic): http://www.ibm.com/systems/z and here: http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/hardware/z10bc Here are some of my thoughts The price reductions jump out. Specialty engines (IFLs, zAAPs, and zIIPs), with

Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-21 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert A. Rosenberg) writes: There was also the secondary use of the high bit to signal AM24 vs AM31 in addresses used for branching to/from subroutines. This

Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-21 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Todd Burch What utility program (or proc) is available that will allow me to enter operator commands via a batch job? We use IEFBR14. -jc- --

Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-21 Thread Martinez, Frank J
I could send you the code for an old utility program that issues an operator command (no idea who wrote it, but it works like a charm.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frank -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Burch Sent: Monday,

Re: z/Architecture Reference Summary

2008-10-21 Thread R.S.
Jousma, David wrote: How about this for a Program Directory: IBM Fault Analyzer for z/OS V9R1 Program Directory (GI10-8802-00) Abstract: This document contains the prerequisties and the installation information for IBM Fault Analyzer. Price: USD 41.35 The price shown above does not include

Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-21 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:00:53 -0400, Martinez, Frank J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could send you the code for an old utility program that issues an operator command (no idea who wrote it, but it works like a charm.) I am sure there is something on the CBT tape. Search http://cbttape.org for

Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-21 Thread J R
It depends if you want the commands synchronized with a particular step, or not. If you don't require step synchronization, you can simply include the commands in the JCL, either directly or as operands of the COMMAND statement. However, if you do require step synchronization, you will

Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-21 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:58:36 -0400, J R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It depends if you want the commands synchronized with a particular step, or not. If you don't require step synchronization, you can simply include the commands in the JCL, either directly or as operands of the COMMAND

Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-21 Thread Todd Burch
Thanks to everyone. I implemented Raymond's suggestion for // COMMAND 'blah' last night, and it works great. The unsynchronized behavior is fine for the immediate need at hand. I needed to refresh WLM. John, do you have an example of an IEFBR14 job that would do this? I've used PGM=COMMAND

Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-21 Thread Todd Burch
John, what processes the /*$VS piece of that? Todd -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 8:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread John McKown
I'm looking at the announcement. But, being a bit ignorant, there are some features which I don't know what they are. Any help? Enhanced Application Preservation? Enhanced Firmware Simulation? (is that better/faster millicode?) Partial memory restart? Pseudo random number generator (PRNG)? I

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Staller, Allan
snip InfiniBand Host Bus: I am somewhat aware of what this is. What software supports it? z/VM Linux only? Or z/OS and z/VSE as well? What about in the future? From later in the list, is this only for Coupling Facility links? /snip z/OS yes (more recent releases only. 1.8???). Not sure about

Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-21 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:10:55 -0500, Todd Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, what processes the /*$VS piece of that? Todd $VS is a JES2 command which basically tells JES2 to issue an MVS command. Although it is issued by the JES2 address space, the command is processed as if it were issued by

Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-21 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Todd Burch Thanks to everyone. I implemented Raymond's suggestion for // COMMAND 'blah' last night, and it works great. The unsynchronized behavior is fine for the immediate need at hand. I needed to refresh

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread R.S.
John McKown wrote: [...] InfiniBand Host Bus: I am somewhat aware of what this is. What software supports it? z/VM Linux only? Or z/OS and z/VSE as well? What about in the future? From later in the list, is this only for Coupling Facility links? I'd suggest Redbook about InfiniBand in z10.

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Marian Gasparovic
John, Infiniband is used a lot in z10 BC (same in EC). There are four types of fanout cards from CPC drawer. Only one is non-Infiniband, it is ICB-4. You have two types of IB-oprical for coupling links and one IB-copper which connects CPC drawer to I/O drawers. Obviously connection from CPC to I/O

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:37:50 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John McKown wrote: [...] InfiniBand Host Bus: I am somewhat aware of what this is. What software supports it? z/VM Linux only? Or z/OS and z/VSE as well? What about in the future? From later in the list, is this only for

Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-21 Thread Hal Merritt
I've used REXX with good results as well as the various JCL solutions posted by others. The JCL solutions are quick and easy and work well. I use REXX when I need logic, variables, and/or time delays. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: No Source for load modules not linkedited since 1980-90's

2008-10-21 Thread Lynd, Eugene C.
What about The Source Recovery Company? I've heard their presentations at Share (and Guide, I think, back in the day). Not sure they're still around but there is a Web site: http://www.source-recovery.com/ Gene Lynd --

Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-21 Thread Jon Brock
We use a program from the CBT tape for this very thing. Todd's original need has been satisfied for the moment, as he didn't need to synchronize commands within a job stream. Even so, I prefer to use the program, as differing security parameters at our installation mean the IEFBR14 method

Re: z/Architecture Reference Summary

2008-10-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Oct 20, 2008, at 11:15, Steve Comstock wrote: Did you know the quoted price for these little gems (that came from the original S/360 green card) are now priced at $173.82?!! I know they're downloadable for free, but I wanted to hand them out to a class in the little booklet form, not on 8.5

Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-21 Thread Lindy Mayfield
File19, a program called COMMAND. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan MOEYERSONS Sent: 21. lokakuuta 2008 15:42 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream? On Tue, 21 Oct

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Mark Post
On 10/21/2008 at 9:37 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- In few words Infiniband is used for copupling links only, so only z/OS (and CFCC) can exploit it. So, no VM, VSE, TPF, no Linux. For Linux, that will be changing in the not too distant future.

redbooks available

2008-10-21 Thread Marian Gasparovic
Hello everybody. Today we don't announce z10 BC only, also new functions and features for z10 EC become available. There is one new redbook and two updated redbooks available. IBM System z10 Business Class Technical Overview http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/abstracts/sg247632.html?Open IBM

Re: Probably a basic MQ question

2008-10-21 Thread Bruce Richardson
We've seen this before. It means that MQ thinks there is something it needs to keep track of from that date. It could be a dead or orphaned message. Try re-cycling (stop/start) the queue manager to free up the datasets, and then manually delete the datasets (if MQ hasn't). If the re-cycle

z/Architecture Reference Summary

2008-10-21 Thread John R. Ehrman (408-463-3543 T/543-)
I've heard rumors to the effect that the current (high) prices were set erroneously, and that a correction is being considered. John ehrman -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

Re: z/Architecture Reference Summary

2008-10-21 Thread Steve Comstock
John R. Ehrman (408-463-3543 T/543-) wrote: I've heard rumors to the effect that the current (high) prices were set erroneously, and that a correction is being considered. John ehrman That would be good news. Thanks for checking it out and staying on top of it, John. Kind regards, -Steve

Re: z/Architecture Reference Summary

2008-10-21 Thread J R
Isn't that what the Department of Defense said about the $435 hammers? Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:08:06 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: z/Architecture Reference Summary To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU I've heard rumors to the effect that the current (high) prices were set erroneously,

Re: EXEC PGM=??? to issue operator commands from the JCL stream?

2008-10-21 Thread Roger Bolan
On my JES2 system, nothing special is needed. To issue commands that do not have to coordinate with job steps, you can just stick them at the top of any job. For example, when running a testcase that requires me to use a special writer proc and destination for a certain printer, I can just

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Mark Vitale
How about CPU Measurement Facility? The announcement pointed us to ResourceLink for more details, but all that came up was an abstract from the Research Journal: http://researchweb.watson.ibm.com/journal/abstracts/rd/531/jackson.html Mark Vitale Senior Software Engineer PERFMAN www.perfman.com

Re: IBM PR: IBM Launches Next-Generation Mainframe for Midsize Customers

2008-10-21 Thread Marian Gasparovic
Mark, high level answer - CPU measurement facility can be switched on from HMC when directed by IBM. It will collect extra performance data, very low level stuff, don't ask about details, I don't know. It was available before in other form which required an outage (I don't know if POR or partition

CPU Measurement Facility

2008-10-21 Thread Martin Packer
It turns out I DO know about this... I've known it's been in the works for about a year and have had some very basic sample data since the Spring. I'm hoping to get round to blogging about it in a few days. (An urgent customer situation and also HackDay 6 on Friday prevent me from spending

Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:00:00 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I thought 31-bit was for compatibility with existing exploitation of the sign bit; ... Nope, it was the use of a X'80' in the high-order byte of a fullword to terminate a variable-length parameter list (of

Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-21 Thread J R
Right, but I think it's fairly clear that they were both talking about the same thing. Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:16:43 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:00:00 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL

Cobol reference

2008-10-21 Thread Howard Brazee
I gave a new programmer my list of CoBOL reference URLS, such as http://www.s390.ibm.com/bookmgr-cgi/bookmgr.cmd/BOOKS/IGYLR205/CCONTENTS , but these no longer work. I did some searches from the page that came up. Where can I find the CoBOL language guide and user manual?

Re: Cobol reference

2008-10-21 Thread Ramiro Camposagrado
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:15:56 -0600, Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gave a new programmer my list of CoBOL reference URLS, such as http://www.s390.ibm.com/bookmgr- cgi/bookmgr.cmd/BOOKS/IGYLR205/CCONTENTS , but these no longer work. I did some searches from the page that came up.

Re: Cobol reference

2008-10-21 Thread Jackson, Robin
Howard, Try here, as good a place as any to start. http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/zswpdf/ Rob Jackson Senior z/OS Systems Programmer Work phone: (615) 231-4998 Fax (615) 886-9519 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:38:56 -0400, J R wrote: Right, but I think it's fairly clear that they were both talking about the same thing. ... and I chose the term simply because I can never remember which systems number bits left-to-right, and which right to left, or start with 0, or start with

Re: Cobol reference

2008-10-21 Thread Schneiderwent, Craig
I use the LibraryCenter for my version of z/OS available from http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/. If you click on your version of z/OS you get a two-pane browser window with a Java applet running in the left pane that acts as an index or table of contents. The most current COBOL,

Re: Cobol reference

2008-10-21 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I don't know about anyone else, but I always start at the z/OS Internet Library here: http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/ Then go to the z/OS software products Book link here: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/zapplsbooks.html Then for COBOL you have to remember it is named

Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-21 Thread Scott Ford
Gil -- same here...but I don't get hung up on semantics..I translate flag/sign when speaking in assembler-ese... Regards, Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer [p] 678.266.3399 x304[m] 609-346-0399 identityforge.com This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain

Re: Cobol reference

2008-10-21 Thread Scott Ford
Peter, I typically go there also, I usually bookmark it in IE7... Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer [p] 678.266.3399 x304[m] 609-346-0399 identityforge.com This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If

Re: Cobol reference

2008-10-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 Oct 2008 13:20:37 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ramiro Camposagrado) wrote: This is the COBOL Home Page: http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/cobol/ I had found that link, I'll have to do some more searching to find the language reference manual.

Re: Cobol reference

2008-10-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 Oct 2008 13:26:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Schneiderwent, Craig) wrote: I use the LibraryCenter for my version of z/OS available from http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/. If you click on your version of z/OS you get a two-pane browser window with a Java applet running in the

Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-21 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Paul Gilmartin wrote: ... and I chose the term simply because I can never remember which systems number bits left-to-right, and which right to left, or start with 0, or start with 1. And I think the IBM 704 didn't even number the sign bit -- it was simply S, and didn't (sometimes) participate in

Re: Addressing Scheme with 64 vs 63 bits

2008-10-21 Thread Scott Ford
Yeah Gerhard and Gil, Starting writing Assembler on a 360/20,, man 704 days... Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer [p] 678.266.3399 x304[m] 609-346-0399 identityforge.com This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private

How big is your z/OS 1.9 root and where does it live

2008-10-21 Thread John Norgauer
I just ran out of space on my ROOT while installing JAVA 31. I'd like a ball-park number of your size I have 60K tracks and it's on my SYSRES. I could re-locate to another volume but I thought maybe I could do some clean-up also. Any thoughts? John Norgauer University of California Davis

Re: How big is your z/OS 1.9 root and where does it live

2008-10-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
I place all of my system OMVS data sets on a separate 3390-9 volume. I have increased the space on the SYS1.OMVS.ROOT to about 6 trks. Since I am not using a top ROOT dataset which just have links in it (the better way to go), I wanted to make sure I had sufficient space. I have an HFS

Cobol reference

2008-10-21 Thread Bill Klein
Howard, I don't know what release you want, but I tend to keep bunches of them. Most recent - Enterprise COBOL V4R1 http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/Shelves/igy3sh40 Last Version 3 URL http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/IGY3SH33 These are