Re: searchdatacenter.com article

2010-06-30 Thread Sam Siegel
> They taught all the obscure utilities like IEBCOMPR and IEBDG. > > Outside of that set of courses, I've never used either in the Real World, > ever. > > Quoted below is the funniest part of the article. *This document is the result of Infostructure Associates-sponsored research. Infostructure

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2010-06-30 Thread Keith Zawila
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Re: searchdatacenter.com article

2010-06-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>>Weird! Anybody here use IEBCOMPR? >I think I used it once. About 30 years ago. AFAIK, it hasn't significantly changed since then. In February of 1981, I was training to become a JCL jockie (Production Support Analyst), before automation and schedulers. To learn JCL, we were taking the ol

Re: searchdatacenter.com article

2010-06-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:33:11 -0500, Pommier, Rex R. wrote: >Hmmm, read the source, read the backup and compare them, just so I can >reread the source and write the backup. Yeah, sign me up!!! > How about writing the backup unconditionally, generating a strong checksum on-the-fly (ICSF CSNBOWH doe

Re: Question on Started Jobs

2010-06-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 06/30/2010 at 08:42 AM, Mark Zelden said: >[1] Many people don't realize that at the same time the started jobs >support came in, enhancements were made to the START command to >support JOBCARD parameters. I don't believe that those were new. As I recall it goes back to OS/360. --

Re: Question on Started Jobs

2010-06-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 06/30/2010 at 08:34 AM, Donald Johnson said: >2. We created a user file like any other proclib file to hold the >jobs - >does it need to be PDSE or is a standard PDS fine? PDS is fine; I don't know whether PDSE will work. >3. Can we move existing libraries to IEFJOBS to use this feat

Re: OT completely..........

2010-06-30 Thread Rick Fochtman
Greatly appreciated. Thanks, Steve. Rick --- Steve Comstock wrote: Rick Fochtman wrote: A great number of you kind ladies and gentlemen have shared private E-Mail addresses with me in the past. I would be highly appreciat

Re: searchdatacenter.com article

2010-06-30 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- Weird! Anybody here use IEBCOMPR? -- I think I used it once. About 30 years ago. AFAIK, it hasn't significantly changed since then.

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4c2b89f9.5050...@valley.net>, on 06/30/2010 at 02:16 PM, Gerhard Postpischil said: >The approaches posted previously all treated the directory as >sequential. AFAIK, the DS1NOBDB field is not altered unless a STOW >is issued. Does STOW set the flag in the DCB or in the DEB? >And it wou

Re: searchdatacenter.com article

2010-06-30 Thread Thomas H Puddicombe
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Re: Cataloguing fake tape datasets?

2010-06-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:04:24 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >Although Paul may be able to use more chicanery to add an SDSF REXX >batch step to look at the joblog of the running job, get the tape mount >message, and create the IDCAMS DEFINE NONVSAM input and then >run IDCAMS in a subsequent step. > In

Re: searchdatacenter.com article

2010-06-30 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Mednick > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:10 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: searchdatacenter.com article > > I was taken back today with this article that appeared: >

Re: searchdatacenter.com article

2010-06-30 Thread Ken Porowski
Of course, don't you compare every dataset you have to the most recent backup to see if the data has changed? I wouldn't trust the dataset changed bit if I were you. -Original Message- McKown, John > -Original Message- Stephen Mednick > > I was taken back today with this article

Re: AF/Operator

2010-06-30 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/30/2010 2:34:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sebast...@welton.de writes: such as the one for Omegamon or System Automation but as seeing that AF/Operator is, probably, being phased out in favour of SA, if there is one its going to be very quiet. >> Think Darren started a

Re: searchdatacenter.com article

2010-06-30 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Hmmm, read the source, read the backup and compare them, just so I can reread the source and write the backup. Yeah, sign me up!!! Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ken Porowski Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:26 PM To:

Re: searchdatacenter.com article

2010-06-30 Thread Bob Rutledge
Stephen Mednick wrote: I was taken back today with this article that appeared: An introduction to mainframe backup utilities Could someone please tell

Re: Cataloguing fake tape datasets?

2010-06-30 Thread Brian Kennelly
I have not tried it with your scenario, but what about using an IEFBR14 JCL step with UNIT=(3490,DEFER)? That would allow you to use a referback, but not require a mount. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 13:49, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:36:38 -0500, Field, Alan C. wrote: > > >IDCAMS

Re: searchdatacenter.com article

2010-06-30 Thread Anthony Fletcher
Stephen Mednick wrote: I was taken back today with this article that appeared: An < http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid80_gci1515891,00.htm l?track=NL-576&ad=772576&asrc=EM_NLN_11912703&uid=628605> introduction to mainframe backup utilities Could someone please tell m

Re: Developers' Use of Prod Data For Testing

2010-06-30 Thread Galambos, Robert
Until now I have refrained from responding BUT I think I need to. First to answer your question, depending on where the data comes from or resides, there may be legal question. Both the EU and Canada to name but two countries, have very 'strong' regulations concerning what a company can do with 'p

Re: Cataloguing fake tape datasets?

2010-06-30 Thread Field, Alan C.
Probably not - this is all SYSIN data so would require manual data entry to plug in the volser The 98000 is a convention used to tell one's tape management system to ignore the volser and not try and manage it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bam

Re: Cataloguing fake tape datasets?

2010-06-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:36:38 -0500, Field, Alan C. wrote: >IDCAMS DEFINE NONVSAM ? > >DEFINE NONVSAM (NAME(your.dsn ) + >VOL(H4) + >FSEQN( 1) + >DEVT(3490) ) > Great! Thanks!! (Well, almost. Can I do this with a referback (VOL=REF) to the

Re: Cataloguing fake tape datasets?

2010-06-30 Thread Mark Zelden
Although Paul may be able to use more chicanery to add an SDSF REXX batch step to look at the joblog of the running job, get the tape mount message, and create the IDCAMS DEFINE NONVSAM input and then run IDCAMS in a subsequent step. Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390

searchdatacenter.com article

2010-06-30 Thread Stephen Mednick
I was taken back today with this article that appeared: An introduction to mainframe backup utilities Could someone please tell me if this guy is for real!

Re: Cataloguing fake tape datasets?

2010-06-30 Thread Field, Alan C.
IDCAMS DEFINE NONVSAM ? DEFINE NONVSAM (NAME(your.dsn ) + VOL(H4) + FSEQN( 1) + DEVT(3490) ) ---

Cataloguing fake tape datasets?

2010-06-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In order to keep track of the few tapes I use, without covering my walls with Post-Its identifying volsers, when possible I append a small data set at the end of each with a data set name identifying the purpose and creation date. Then I can look up the data set in DSLIST to find the volser. Can

Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What?

2010-06-30 Thread Scott Rowe
While I would say that Mr. Britz has none. >>> "McKown, John" 6/30/2010 4:03 PM >>> Yes, Mr. Jaffee has "street cred" around here. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are no

Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What?

2010-06-30 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:46 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What? > > Good points, Anton, but if you had read the White Pa

Re: AF/Operator

2010-06-30 Thread Sebastian Welton
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:12:08 -0500, Betsy Jeffery wrote: >Does anyone know of a list-serve, group, blog, etc for Candle (IBM) product >AF/Operator? There is, or was, bit.listserv.candle-l but there hasn't been anything there for years except talk about...candles or spam. There might be a Yahoo g

Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What?

2010-06-30 Thread George Henke
The great irony is that instead of mini's (AS400, System 38, etc), PC's, and mobile's (Iphone, Ipads) replacing or weakening the mainframe's position, they are extending and strengthening them enormously making them indispensable and insuring their place indefinitely. But, please, don't tell anyon

Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What?

2010-06-30 Thread Scott Rowe
Wow Anton, just how big is that axe you're grinding? 1) I don't see any indication that he "has devoted his academic life/work to IBM". I have not read his book, but it doesn't sound like it has anything to do with IBM directly. From what I can tell he wrote his book 10 years before he even

Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What?

2010-06-30 Thread George Henke
Good points, Anton, but if you had read the White Paper, and until you do you are in no position to judge it, the facts would speak for themselves. I cannot attach it here on a Post, but I have sent it to you offline. Also when Ed Jaffe speaks, we, or at least I , listen. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at

Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What?

2010-06-30 Thread A L Hughes
Personally, I have to question if Anton Britz is a 'real' person or his motives. His comments about anything mainframe related are so outrageous, and are getting tedious to say the least. He lists himself on Linkedin as part of AB Consultants (there's a hint there!) in Idaho. But he doesn't seem

Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What?

2010-06-30 Thread Anton Britz
George, a) I did not see the Wilhilm G Spruth White paper but b) If I GOOGLE for "Wilhilm G Spruth", I conclude that ' - He has devoted his academic life/work to IBM - IBM has given him a Mainframe... for FREE - He looks about 80 years old to me - IBM even posts his profile and wor

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-30 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 6/30/2010 6:34 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: The intrinsic problem is that to do it correctly (for a PDS) the program needs to be authorized, as DS1NOBDB needs to be reset. Doesn't CLOSE update it from the DCB? The approaches posted previously all treated the directory as sequential

Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What?

2010-06-30 Thread George Henke
It is refuting Gartner's adverse position on mainframes. Evidently Gartner has contradicted itself regarding mainframes. It reinforces the position taken by the excellent Wilhilm G Spruth White Paper that Ed Jaffe posted here a week or so ago. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Howard Brazee wr

Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What?

2010-06-30 Thread Howard Brazee
On 30 Jun 2010 09:05:08 -0700, netsfw-ibmm...@yahoo.com (Mark T. Regan, K8MTR) wrote: >http://mervadrian.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/migrate-from-mainframe-to-what/ > Thanks, > >Mark Regan "Modern" means "in the current style". Occasionally it sticks with a style, and new terms such as post-moder

Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What?

2010-06-30 Thread Ken Porowski
I doubt there's a shortage of people that manage people. I would guess that he's talking about the technical side. For those that worry about what Merv Adrian is all about, note that he just posted the piece, not write it. I seem to recall that the Joe Clabby piece was posted here earlier. ---

Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What?

2010-06-30 Thread Tony Harminc
On 30 June 2010 12:04, Mark T. Regan, K8MTR wrote: > http://mervadrian.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/migrate-from-mainframe-to-what/ A lot of curious use of the phrase "mainframe management". I can't tell if by that he means the technical stuff - application programming, system programming, operation

Prevent ICF catalog out-of-space problems

2010-06-30 Thread af dc
Hello, today we had problems on one catalog that tried to expand over 4GB that it was not EA. From your experience is there a way to prevent these out-of-space conditions ?? Env is z/Os V1.10 Many thx, A.Cecilio. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What?

2010-06-30 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
Seems to me he was very supportive of the mainframe.  Thanks, Mark Regan - Original Message From: Anton Britz To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wed, June 30, 2010 12:17:34 PM Subject: Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What? Did you go and check who and what Merv Adrian is all about ? Thi

Re: Migrate From Mainframe? To What?

2010-06-30 Thread Anton Britz
Did you go and check who and what Merv Adrian is all about ? This is what he claims to be (Claim to fame ) because surely, we are not going to listen to anybody that want to sell us anything out there : http://www.itmarketstrategy.com/About_Us.html On 6/30/2010 10:04 AM, Mark T. Regan, K8MTR

Migrate From Mainframe? To What?

2010-06-30 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
http://mervadrian.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/migrate-from-mainframe-to-what/  Thanks, Mark Regan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN

Re: Taglines

2010-06-30 Thread George Henke
"Nothing is either good or bad but thinking makes it so" Hamlet Act II Scene II On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:47 AM, George Henke wrote: > - > >I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! > >SHAZAM! > >Nobody's perfect. I am nobody; therefore, I am perfect. :-) > > > *"As a man thinke

SV: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-30 Thread Thomas Berg
When I have needed to compress a PDS that was in frequent/continuous use, e g a target load library in test env, I use a command/rexx that submits a job which begins with submitting another job that has the pds allocated with DISP=OLD. This as a way to "shut the door" behind. Then it waits typ

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-30 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of J R > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:02 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated > > The OP said that job scheduler product has it a

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-30 Thread Bill Fairchild
Here is one graph that looks to me as if we have no quenching yet: http://www.guibord.com/Democracy/files-images/World_Population_Graph.jpg Here is another with obvious quenching: http://forumpolitics.com/pics/world-population-chart.jpg This one looks to me as if world human population growth chan

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-30 Thread J R
The OP said that job scheduler product has it allocated and that assembler may not be used. > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:47:20 -0500 > From: john.mck...@healthmarkets.com > Subject: Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > > > -Original Message-

Re: Taglines

2010-06-30 Thread George Henke
- >I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! >SHAZAM! >Nobody's perfect. I am nobody; therefore, I am perfect. :-) *"As a man thinketh* in his heart, *so is he" *Proverbs 23:7 On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Tom Marchant wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:31:26 -0500, Pommier, Rex

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-30 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of J R > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:44 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated > > Yes. You have to wait until no one else has it

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-30 Thread J R
Yes. You have to wait until no one else has it allocated. > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:40:10 -0600 > From: howard.bra...@cusys.edu > Subject: Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > > Is there any downside to just deleting the PDS and recreating it? >

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-30 Thread Howard Brazee
Is there any downside to just deleting the PDS and recreating it? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at htt

Re: Taglines

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:31:26 -0500, Pommier, Rex R. wrote: >O c'mon, Pat. This one isn't bad! I kinda like it. :-) I wonder how much you'll like it in three years.. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Question on Started Jobs

2010-06-30 Thread R.S.
Tom Marchant pisze: On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:33:44 +0200, R.S. wrote: Tom Marchant pisze: Jobs are submitted and processed by an initiator, whether JES- or WLM-managed. Either way, the number of jobs active in the system at any time is limited. Started jobs are started by the operator and beco

Re: Question on Started Jobs

2010-06-30 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. > > Mark Zelden pisze: > >>> 4. Isthere anything from a security or performance standpoint > >>> we should > >>> consider - any danger in application teams updating the > >>> library with CICS > >>> region changes

Re: Question on Started Jobs

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:33:44 +0200, R.S. wrote: >Tom Marchant pisze: >> Jobs are submitted and processed by an initiator, whether JES- or >> WLM-managed. Either way, the number of jobs active in the system >> at any time is limited. Started jobs are started by the operator and >> become active i

Re: Question on Started Jobs

2010-06-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:06:07 -0400, Donald Johnson wrote: >Thanks for the assurances, John...one last question - do you (or anyone >else) know of any writeups on advantages or benefites, or any statistical >information on using started jobs vs standard jobs? > I don't, but a couple of advantages

Re: How to implement zFS

2010-06-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:10:37 -0400, Jousma, David wrote: >What about the access they will need to mount a new filesystem? >Additionally, along with that, you need to design controls so that they >don't "mount" something over the top of an active filesystem. > I think the question was about using

Re: Question on Started Jobs

2010-06-30 Thread R.S.
Tom Marchant pisze: Jobs are submitted and processed by an initiator, whether JES- or WLM-managed. Either way, the number of jobs active in the system at any time is limited. Started jobs are started by the operator and become active immediately, regardless of the resources that they require

Re: Question on Started Jobs

2010-06-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:06:07 -0400, Donald Johnson wrote: >started jobs vs standard jobs? IMO, the question is not about using started jobs vs. ordinary jobs, but started jobs vs. started tasks. Jobs are submitted and processed by an initiator, whether JES- or WLM-managed. Either way, the num

Re: TSO region size

2010-06-30 Thread R.S.
Joel C. Ewing pisze: Then came the great influx of newbies with the PC revolution in the late 1980's and 1990's and people unfamiliar with hardware architecture and the motivations behind the distinction began randomly using the "binary" prefixes in inappropriate contexts. Even PC newbies did u

Re: Question on Started Jobs

2010-06-30 Thread Shane Ginnane
I think for us it was the opportunity to use INCLUDE members. Personally I liked the ability to do "C CICS*' - never seemed so popular wit the CICS support guys tho ... Shane ... On Wed, Jun 30th, 2010 at 11:18 PM, "R.S." wrote: > The nicest feature is DD * ! > This is the first / primary reas

Re: Question on Started Jobs

2010-06-30 Thread R.S.
Mark Zelden pisze: 4. Isthere anything from a security or performance standpoint we should consider - any danger in application teams updating the library with CICS region changes, for example? We don't keep "jobs" in our started job library, we just put JOBCARDs in there and execute the same

Re: How to implement zFS

2010-06-30 Thread Steve Comstock
Jousma, David wrote: What about the access they will need to mount a new filesystem? Additionally, along with that, you need to design controls so that they don't "mount" something over the top of an active filesystem. But they are already using HFS, so they would have to have that kind of cont

Re: TSO region size

2010-06-30 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 06/30/2010 03:42 AM, R.S. wrote: > Ted MacNEIL pisze: >>>2G = 2,000,000,000 >>>2Gi = 2,147,483,648 >> >> Where is 2Gi a documented standard, other than IBM-Main? > Yes. This is official (documented standard) way of naming "binary > prefixes". However it's rarely used. > For example - IB

Re: Question on Started Jobs

2010-06-30 Thread Donald Johnson
Thanks for the assurances, John...one last question - do you (or anyone else) know of any writeups on advantages or benefites, or any statistical information on using started jobs vs standard jobs? Thanks again! On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:41 AM, McKown, John wrote: > > -Original Message-

Re: How to implement zFS

2010-06-30 Thread Jousma, David
What about the access they will need to mount a new filesystem? Additionally, along with that, you need to design controls so that they don't "mount" something over the top of an active filesystem. When we have a outside group that needs filesystem space created, we alloc it, and either it gets pe

Re: Question on Started Jobs

2010-06-30 Thread Mark Zelden
>> 4. Isthere anything from a security or performance standpoint >> we should >> consider - any danger in application teams updating the >> library with CICS >> region changes, for example? > We don't keep "jobs" in our started job library, we just put JOBCARDs in there and execute the same PROC

Re: Taglines

2010-06-30 Thread Mohammad Khan
What does Ted think he is ? Queen of Canada ? On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:14:33 -0500, Patrick Lyon wrote: >On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:01:35 +, Ted MacNEIL >wrote: >>- >>I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! >>SHAZAM! > >OMG - I have to hand it to you Ted. I didn't think it was pos

Re: How to implement zFS

2010-06-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:48:31 +0800, ibmnew wrote: >Dear all > > Our shop is a parallel sysplex.We just migrated our z/OS from z/OS 1.9 to 1.11. > > We didn't migrate any existing data from HFS to zFS. > What about the files systems from Serverpac (z/OS root, others and operations files like /et

Re: Question on Started Jobs

2010-06-30 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Donald Johnson > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 7:34 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Question on Started Jobs > > We are in the process of adding Started jobs (IEFJOBS) to one

Question on Started Jobs

2010-06-30 Thread Donald Johnson
We are in the process of adding Started jobs (IEFJOBS) to one of our development systems, and had a few questions for the experts out there. 1. We added MSTJCLKW to SYS1.PARMLIB - does this sound right? 2. We created a user file like any other proclib file to hold the jobs - does it need to be PDS

Re: Vista large screen size not working

2010-06-30 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
On 6/30/2010 2:00 PM, Staller, Allan wrote: For clarity, it this Windows Vista or the Vista 3270 emulator from Tom Brennan? If someone has seen this: For a PC the Vista large screen size is not working any more, for all other PC's it is o.k and for this PC it was still yesterday o.k.

Re: How to implement zFS

2010-06-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Jason, Some things to look at. Review the manuals on zFS, they are in the DFS IBM Manuals. Review SYS1.PARMLIB both BPX members and IOE members. There are changes you need to make to both for zFS to work. Ensure that the people that create zFS files understand the utilities you need to use to c

Re: Documenting the underlying FBA design of 3375, 3380 and 3390?

2010-06-30 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: > But does anybody here still have manuals documenting that fact, or > contacts with someone who has access to the IBM archives? I was hoping > that someone still had the CE manuals. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#10 Docum

Re: Vista large screen size not working

2010-06-30 Thread Staller, Allan
For clarity, it this Windows Vista or the Vista 3270 emulator from Tom Brennan? If someone has seen this: For a PC the Vista large screen size is not working any more, for all other PC's it is o.k and for this PC it was still yesterday o.k. -

Re: Vista large screen size not working

2010-06-30 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
On 6/30/2010 12:37 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In<4c2af1ef.4020...@isis-papyrus.com>, on 06/30/2010 at 09:27 AM, Miklos Szigetvari said: For a PC the Vista large screen size is not working any more, What is "large" and what is "not working"? Large enough to require 14-bit

Re: Taglines

2010-06-30 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Clark Morris > > On 29 Jun 2010 13:20:53 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: > > >>I love it and I am thinking of stealing it for use elsewhere > > > >A person of great taste! > >And, a sense of humour. > > > >

Re: Vista large screen size not working

2010-06-30 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: "William H. Blair" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 4:13 AM Subject: Re: Vista large screen size not working Miklos Szigetvari asked: For a PC the Vista large screen size is not working ... for all other PC's it is o.k and f

Re: How to implement zFS

2010-06-30 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
One question...who currently allocates your HFSes? Is it the application area or a Systems Programming area? If it is the application area then you will have to educate them on how to allocate and format zFSes, and you will have to make sure they have the correct RACF authorizations (as document

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4c27c8dd.7010...@valley.net>, on 06/27/2010 at 05:55 PM, Gerhard Postpischil said: >The intrinsic problem is that to do it correctly (for a PDS) the >program needs to be authorized, as DS1NOBDB needs to be reset. Doesn't CLOSE update it from the DCB? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Setting up timezone in Unix on Mainframe

2010-06-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <017701cb0702$e82af710$b880e5...@com>, on 06/08/2010 at 08:05 AM, Lizette Koehler said: >I am setup up with the correct offset in the CLOCKxx member in >SYS1.PARMLIB. The legacy time support is not coordianted with the Unix time support. You need to specify the time zone information *both*

Re: Delete all members of a PDS that is allocated

2010-06-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <45d79eacefba9b428e3d400e924d36b903a24...@iwdubcormsg007.sci.local>, on 06/27/2010 at 03:00 PM, "Thompson, Steve" said: >How difficult is it to get the number of directory blocks from a PDS >in a _ program (where the blank can be filled in with COBOL, >PL/1, REXX, etc., but not HLASM/AS

Re: Vista large screen size not working

2010-06-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4c2af1ef.4020...@isis-papyrus.com>, on 06/30/2010 at 09:27 AM, Miklos Szigetvari said: >For a PC the Vista large screen size is not working any more, What is "large" and what is "not working"? Large enough to require 14-bit addressing? Large enough to require 16-bit addressing? Failing in

Re: instream data

2010-06-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <053f2631ec9c584883847c8b4970a22807337...@josqems1.jsq.bsg.ad.adp.com>, on 06/27/2010 at 09:53 AM, "Farley, Peter x23353" said: >Pardon my immense ignorance, but how would such an obviously useful >extension be a "serious integrity breach"? By having access to privileged functions if run

Re: Documenting the underlying FBA design of 3375, 3380 and 3390?

2010-06-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 06/29/2010 at 12:12 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler said: >aka 3375/florence was first of FBA device underneath (3370) with CKD >emulated above. But does anybody here still have manuals documenting that fact, or contacts with someone who has access to the IBM archives? I was hoping that someo

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4c28652f.9090...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 06/28/2010 at 11:02 AM, "R.S." said: >BTW: A programmer I know, used to put "time bombs" into program. The >bombs were deleted after he got money for his job. He considered it >as some kind of insurance. Is it unethical? Yes, but it was an >weapon

Re: O/Topic Selling poisoned software

2010-06-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca343c2f...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com>, on 06/28/2010 at 06:27 PM, Bill Fairchild said: >How many relatives did he have and does he still have? Tens of >billions. Is the number increasing exponentially? Yes. No. It's "quenched exponential growth", i.e.,

Re: How to implement zFS

2010-06-30 Thread Shane Ginnane
Make that *DFS* ... On Wed, Jun 30th, 2010 at 7:50 PM, I wrote: > ... the FDS zSeries File System Administration manual. That's the one you > *really* need. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: How to implement zFS

2010-06-30 Thread Shane Ginnane
Start by looking in the UNIX System Services Planning manual. That will refer you to the FDS zSeries File System Administration manual. That's the one you *really* need. There is no need to touch your current HFSs to use zFS on new aggregates. Shane ... On Wed, Jun 30th, 2010 at 5:48 PM, ibmne

Re: SAS is gone - long live ... ICETOOL?

2010-06-30 Thread M Hunter
We looked at WPS before, but that is no longer an option due to cost. Cobol I shall avoid :-) Apart from DFSORT, the only 'tool' we have is File Manager and I can't see that doing what we want. Looks like there are several places to get information and guidance on RACF reports using ICETOOL

Re: TSO region size

2010-06-30 Thread R.S.
Ted MacNEIL pisze: 2G = 2,000,000,000 2Gi = 2,147,483,648 Where is 2Gi a documented standard, other than IBM-Main? Yes. This is official (documented standard) way of naming "binary prefixes". However it's rarely used. For example - IBM mainframe documentation widely use "the old way", t

Re: Vista large screen size not working

2010-06-30 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
On 6/30/2010 10:12 AM, William H. Blair wrote: Miklos Szigetvari asked: For a PC the Vista large screen size is not working ... for all other PC's it is o.k and for this PC it was still yesterday o.k. I have seen this before; in fact, I see it about every 2-3 months. The solution is

Re: Vista large screen size not working

2010-06-30 Thread William H. Blair
Miklos Szigetvari asked: > For a PC the Vista large screen size is not working ... for all > other PC's it is o.k and for this PC it was still yesterday o.k. I have seen this before; in fact, I see it about every 2-3 months. The solution is to delete the involved (selected/specified) ".ses" fil

How to implement zFS

2010-06-30 Thread ibmnew
Dear all Our shop is a parallel sysplex.We just migrated our z/OS from z/OS 1.9 to 1.11. We didn't migrate any existing data from HFS to zFS. Our application team want to use zFS new function,but we don't want to migrate any existing data from HFS to zFS. We don't have any experience of zFS.

Vista large screen size not working

2010-06-30 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi If someone has seen this: For a PC the Vista large screen size is not working any more, for all other PC's it is o.k and for this PC it was still yesterday o.k. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructi