date:20100715

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:01:44 -0400, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com wrote:

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So maybe not zNext or z11 maybe z1 or zOne or zNeo grin

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So I missed a possible Lord of the Rings alliteration. Don't worry, we won't
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Re: Dataset Aliases - How to find ALL of them

I'm well aware of the subject, but he may have missed it.

 Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com 07/14/10 6:24 PM 
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:27:38 -0400, Scott Rowe wrote:

I think Todd was thinking about catalog aliases, rather than dataset aliases.  

Read the Subject: line.

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Re: IBM System z - A New Dimension in Computing webcast

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:59:51 -0300, Clark Morris 
Will there be a way to get the information at a later date since I
will probably be out of town on that day?

Clark Morris

Clark:

Their will be a replay. Plus all the related materials will be posted on the
web on 7/22. There will also be roadshows around the world over the next few
months.

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Re: IBM System z - A New Dimension in Computing webcast

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:09:12 -0400, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com wrote:

I haven't seen anything definite but as an IBM sponsored webcast I would
be surprised if it was not available as a reply after the event.

Failing that I'm sure there will be SHARE presentations that cover the
same topic.

I already posted the information on what will be happening at SHARE in
another thread. All the details are at
http://www.ibm.com/software/os/systemz/share/

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Re: IBM System z - A New Dimension in Computing webcast

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 03:33:45 EDT, Ed. Benoit ibmm...@aol.com wrote:

Jim,
Is the form to join you on a webcast on July 22 requesting my email address
 and my PASSWORD to my email addresses?  I think I have use the webcase
before but I do not remember giving my PASSWORD.
I am confused.

Ed. Benoit
Member IBM PartnerWorld

Ed: You are creating an ID on the event web site so this is a new password
to be used when you come back on the day of the event. This is NOT your
password for your e-mail system.

Jim

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Re: VTAM Cross domain

It's not that I want him to stay in his safety zone, I was just trying to 
inform him that he did have that option.  I don't have any PATH statements in 
my configuration.

 Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net 07/14/10 8:47 PM 
Neal

 Because it's easier and cleaner to just put an entry into the session 
manager, ...

It seems - not unusually of course - that you are looking for the easiest 
solution. This will be true *only* if you can replace your assumed subarea 
ESCON channel-to-channel with a like-for-like connection between the VTAM 
subarea nodes so that the DISPLAY NET,STATIONS command has the same 
output with the z/10 as with whatever the z/10 replaced.

You will continue to use subarea PATH statements and home and away 
CDRMS - possibly along with liberal start options - or possibly your 
installation is antediluvian and has CDRSCs whenever there is a sniff 
of cross-domain. It's the dreaded PATH statements that are forcing you 
down that easy road.

If this isn't possible, sleeves will need to be rolled up!

Judging from his responses, Scott Rowe - assisted by Allan Staller and to 
some extent by Dave Gibney - seems to want you to stay in the VTAM 
subarea comfort zone maybe because he is - and they are - also aware of 
the PATH statement handcuffs but want also to protect you from APPN. Thus 
there is some emphasis on contriving to set up channel-to-channel definitions 
along the lines of my initial suggestion So my first suggestion is to check 
whether or not there really is no channel-to-channel capability and, if not, 
why not..

However, if you really cannot manage to repair the damage caused by not 
having planned for a replacement for the ESCON-based connections used by 
the replaced CEC or CECs, you'll need to read - again? - my previous post and 
go the TN3270E route or the APPN/Enterprise Extender route - or both.

Chris Mason

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:38:05 -0500, Neal Eckhardt 
neckha...@cnyric.org wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:39:57 -0700, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu
wrote:

Hipersocket  and then you can use  TSO telnet to reach the other LPAR.

But, I have to ask, why not just have them start another 3270 emulator
session to the other LPAR?


Because it's easier and cleaner to just put an entry into the session manager,
and let it find the software running in another LPAR through the cross domain
connection.

Neal

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Re: IBM System z - A New Dimension in Computing webcast --- Their will be a replay. Plus all the related materials will be posted on the web on 7/22 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2010-07-15 Thread Jan Vanbrabant

Their will be a replay. Plus all the related materials will be posted on the
web on 7/22.

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Re: BCPii Sample code - is there any?

2010-07-15 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz

Precious little so far. Sam Knutson provided some in his bit bucket 
presentation: 
http://ew.share.org/client_files/callpapers/attach/SHARE_in_Denver/S2208SK13
1053.pdf
He indicated SAF was usually a problem. 

Steve Warren is doing the following presentation at Share in 3 weeks: 
BCPii for Dummies: Start to finish installation, setup and usage 
Tuesday, August 3, 2010: 4:30 PM-5:30 PM
Room 313 (Hynes Convention Center)
Speaker: Steve Warren (IBM Corporation) 
This session goes thru a complete BCPii setup, including step by step 
installation and configuration instructions, including configuration of the 
support element, security definitions and BCPii address space. Real coding 
examples will also be given. Included in the presentation will be a quick BCPii 
update for z/OS 1.12.
http://share.confex.com/share/115/webprogram/Session7543.html


From Sam's presentation: (Sorry for the formatting.)
BCPii test case
* ConnectTypeValue_Ptr
  LA REG4,HWI_LOCAL_HOST_CPC special case *
  ST REG4,CONNECTTYPEVALUEPTR
  LA REG4,CONNECTTYPEVALUEPTR
  ST REG4,HWICONNTYPEVALUE_PTRPTR
* Call HWICONN
  LOAD EP=HWICONN LOAD AND CALL HWICONN
  LR 15,0
  LR REG1,REG5
  BALR 14,15 
  MVC RETN+11(8),HWICONN MOVE HWICONN INTO WTO 
  MVC EXPN+11(8),HWICONN MOVE HWICONN INTO WTO
  LA REG15,CHECKRC GO CHECK RC FROM SERVICE

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Re: Dataset Aliases - How to find ALL of them

2010-07-15 Thread Mark Zelden

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:33:01 -0500, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 17:29:10 -0400, David Purdy wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com

..Data set aliases are required to be defined in the same
catalog as the data set.



I would swear that we had an applications manager STEPCAT
during a dataset creation to a different catalog than
where the alias was defined.

Are you thinking of the alias for the HLQ?  That is different from a
data set alias.  In an SMS environment STEPCAT is not allowed.



Change that to was not allowed because JOBCAT/STEPCAT is no longer
allowed period.  They were disabled by default at z/OS 1.5 and the ability
to use them at all was removed in z/OS 1.7.   Goodness IMHO (and please,
let's not start the whining about DEFINE PAGESPACE for a target system).

Mark
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Re: Missing data in SVC Dump

2010-07-15 Thread Grimmette, John

 
Hi,

Thanks Jim  Tony,

it was worth putting my pennyworth in. I learnt something very useful.


-Snip1 -
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Tony Harminc
Subject: Re: Missing data in SVC Dump


Yes - it's trivial. And it even seems to be a Programming Interface, if you 
trust the various BLS and AMD macros that define this stuff.
You can easily see the z/OS level in the (usually) first dump record - the one 
that starts with what looks like DR2 H . (That first blank is actual a length 
byte that just happens to be 64.)


The official IBM approach is to run any level of IPCS, which will then report 
on the z/OS level found in the dump. Then one must delete all the dump index 
info that the mismatched IPCS has built, and reload the dump using the correct 
level.

--endSnip1 -

We were indeed given the official IBM approach!


-Snip2 -
 In the dump header record (mapped by SYS1.MODGEN(IHAPRD) ), there is:

PRDPRODN DSCL16 Product name   @L9C
PRDPRODV DSCL2  Product version@L9C
PRDPRODR DSCL2  Product release@L9C
PRDPRODM DSCL2  Product modification   @L9A

  This identifies the level of the dump program.  It is same as the level of 
z/OS for SVCDUMP/SYSMDUMP/IEATDUMP.

Jim Mulder   z/OS System Test   IBM Corp.  Poughkeepsie,  NY
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It's always good to know the correct macro - thanks once again.

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Re: Dataset Aliases - How to find ALL of them

2010-07-15 Thread John Eells

I am not sure what the OP meant by data set alias, or whether we mean 
the same thing when using this term, so...


There are two kinds of aliases.  User catalog connector aliases are 
well-defined in the books, I think, but the other kind, which I'll 
call data set aliases for now, are not so well-defined if I recall 
correctly.  The VSAM equivalent for what I call a data set alias is a 
PATHENTRY.  (I'm too lazy to search for terms, look up the command 
syntax today, or test it, so all this is from memory, but you should get 
the idea anyway.)


A user catalog connector alias is created by using:

DEFINE -
  ALIAS(NAME(aliasname) -
  RELATE(user.catalog.name)) -
  CAT(master.catalog)

A data set alias is created by using

DEFINE -
  ALIAS(NAME(real.data.set.name) -
  RELATE(other.name.you.want.to.use.for.the.data.set)) -
  CAT(same.catalog.as.for.real.data.set.name)

As you can see, the differences are what you specify as the alias name, 
what you RELATE the alias to, and where you must place the alias entry.


LISTCAT ALIAS will show both kinds.  The associations (related-to) 
field in the output will tell you what kind of alias it is; if it's a 
user catalog name, it's a catalog connector alias.  Otherwise, it's a 
data set alias.


To find all the user catalog connector aliases in the normal order of 
catalog search (not what I think the OP wanted, but just to be 
complete), run a LISTCAT ALIAS ALL against the master catalog.  All 
those associated with a user catalog name are catalog connector aliases. 
 Any others are data set aliases.  (If you don't know the names of your 
catalogs, see the first command below.)


To find the data set aliases, run:

- LISTCAT USERCATALOG against the master catalog to find all the user 
catalog entries.


- LISTCAT ALIAS ALL CAT(usercat.name) against *each* of the catalogs 
appearing in the output from the command above.  For true user catalogs, 
this will show only data set aliases.  For other master catalogs that 
are connected to the master catalog (as user catalogs), it will show 
both user catalog connector aliases and data set aliases.


For any catalogs that are not connected to the master catalog, I'm 
afraid you're on your own so far as finding them goes, but once you find 
them and IMPORT CONNECT them to the master catalog, the second command 
above will work.


Having completed the steps above, you should have a complete list of 
every kind of alias entry on your entire system.


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Access to RACF entries dataset. Operation attribute

2010-07-15 Thread Jorge Garcia

Hello:

 We want to protect a dataset (only one) from access of any user (included 
operations users) except one (T99MIHP, no operations user). 
The job that define and delete the dataset, is submited by control-m. The 
control-m user is operations and we have create a surrogat entries called 
T99MIHP.SUBMIT. We've added to this access list the control-m user 
(T99CTM) with access READ.  In this way we can submit the job from control-
m with T99MIHP user in job card.
But we wan't that T99CTM user can access to dataset in ALTER mode. Only in 
READ mode. We aren't successful. When we submit the job with T99CTM user, 
the jobs ended ok and the delete and define the dataset. We want that 
T99MIHP user can, one and only, access to dataset in ALTER o UPDATE mode.
We've included the T99CTM NONE access in the access list of RACF entries 
(like RACF manual says) but T99CTM user continue deleted and created the 
dataset.
We have done another test. We have removed the operation attribute of one 
of our sysprog user, and this sysprog user isn't in access list of dataset. The 
job cancels with a RACF error. It's right. 
The RACF security administrator guide said that you can limit the access of 
operation users with the access list option, but we aren't successful. The 
T99CTM group and T99MIHP group are differents. Neither are operations group.
Could be the problem the T99CTM operations attribute?. We couldn't remove it 
(it's not recommendable).

Thanks

Jorge García Juanino
Técnico de Sistemas Z/Os
DGTP Departamento de Técnica de Sistemas
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Re: Dataset Aliases - How to find ALL of them

2010-07-15 Thread John McKown

On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 07:53 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:

 
 Change that to was not allowed because JOBCAT/STEPCAT is no longer
 allowed period.  They were disabled by default at z/OS 1.5 and the ability
 to use them at all was removed in z/OS 1.7.   Goodness IMHO (and please,
 let's not start the whining about DEFINE PAGESPACE for a target system).
 
 Mark
 --

Which is simple to get around with MLA.

DEF ALIAS(NAME(PAGE.NEWSYS) RELATE(new.mcat))

DEFINE PAGESPACE(PAGE.NEWSYS.PLPA) -

and so on.

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Maranatha! 

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Re: Access to RACF entries dataset. Operation attribute

2010-07-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht

Jorge Garcia wrote:

The job that define and delete the dataset, is submited by control-m. The
control-m user is operations and we have create a surrogat entries called
T99MIHP.SUBMIT.

You will need to place NONE or READ for BOTH ids (T99MIHP and T99CTM) in 
the access list of that dataset. 

Or clear out all accesses, place the dataset in WARNING and test again.

I would REALLY advise you to REMOVE Operations from Control-M to avoid just 
this type of unrealistic high accesses.

T99CTM group and T99MIHP group are differents

Did you just said ids earlier? 

Could be the problem the T99CTM operations attribute?. We couldn't remove 
it (it's not recommendable).

Hmmm, what is the Started Task OWNER name of the Control-M? The same as 
T99CTM? What is the eventual group access of Control-M? Does T99CTM 
belongs to more than ONE group(s)? 

Also, what is the TRUSTED and PRIVILEGED status of the STC's segment in 
RACF?

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Coupling Facility CPU utilization

2010-07-15 Thread Arthur Gutowski

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:29:36 -0500, Ken Hansen 
khhwk...@comcast.net wrote:

In former times,  Coupling Facility CPU utilizations were reported as High 
values (90-100% busy).   This made it difficult to determine fail-over 
capabilities and was later amended by an IBM APAR the produced more 
realistic results. But in returning to this topic,  I am seeing the TYPE70 
records 
showing the ICF as 100% busy (z/OS 1.9) and the RMF Reports Coupling 
Facility reports showing the same thing.

Yet when I go to the TYPE74 structure records, I see low CPU utilization 
time values that indicate the Coupling Facility is much less busy (5% to 18% 
of the RMF interval time).

Can anyone tell me how I can reconcile this deference?

Short answer:  Use the type 74's, as RMF does.

Our RMF Mon III CF Report shows:

 CF Policy: NORMAL  Activated at: 05/06/10 18.15.31  
 
 - Coupling Facility --  -- Processor ---
 Name  Type  Model Lvl  Dyn  Util% Def Shr Wgt Effect
 
 CF01  2097E40  16  OFF   2.81   1950   1.0 
 CF02  2097E40  16  OFF   1.11   01.0 

This data comes from the type 74's, as does SYSRPTS(CF), so I don't 
understand your statement:
I am seeing the TYPE70 records showing the ICF as 100% busy (z/OS 1.9) 
and the RMF Reports Coupling Facility reports showing the same thing.

From RMF on SYSRPTS:

CF | NOCF
Specifies the Coupling Facility Activity report.To obtain an entire 
Coupling 
Facility Activity report, ensure that you supply the Postprocessor with a 
complete set of SMF 74 subtype 4 records from all systems in the sysplex

Regards,
Art Gutowski
Ford Motor Company

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Re: Dataset Aliases - How to find ALL of them

2010-07-15 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM

John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote in message
news:1279200787.32235.223.ca...@mckown5.johnmckown.net...
 On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 07:53 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
 
  
  Change that to was not allowed because JOBCAT/STEPCAT is no longer
  allowed period.  They were disabled by default at z/OS 1.5 and the
ability
  to use them at all was removed in z/OS 1.7.   Goodness IMHO (and
please,
  let's not start the whining about DEFINE PAGESPACE for a target
system).
  
  Mark
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 Which is simple to get around with MLA.
 
 DEF ALIAS(NAME(PAGE.NEWSYS) RELATE(new.mcat))
 
 DEFINE PAGESPACE(PAGE.NEWSYS.PLPA) -
 
 and so on.
 
 -- 
 John McKown
 Maranatha! 

You don't need MLA and a ucat, just define an alias to the target
system's mcat.

On SYSB:
DEF ALIAS(NAME(SYSA) RELATE(SYSA's.mcat))
On SYSB:
DEFINE PAGESPACE(SYSA.PAGE.PLPA) -
 
Kees.

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Re: Dataset Aliases - How to find ALL of them

2010-07-15 Thread John P Kalinich

John,

I think it should be...

DEFINE -
   ALIAS(NAME(other.name.you.want.to.use.for.the.data.set) -
   RELATE(real.data.set.name)) -
   CAT(same.catalog.as.for.real.data.set.name)

Regards,
John K



   
  From:   John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com 
   

   
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu  
   

   
  Date:   07/15/2010 08:25 AM   
   

   
  Subject:Re: Dataset Aliases - How to find ALL of them 
   

   





I am not sure what the OP meant by data set alias, or whether we mean
the same thing when using this term, so...

There are two kinds of aliases.  User catalog connector aliases are
well-defined in the books, I think, but the other kind, which I'll
call data set aliases for now, are not so well-defined if I recall
correctly.  The VSAM equivalent for what I call a data set alias is a
PATHENTRY.  (I'm too lazy to search for terms, look up the command
syntax today, or test it, so all this is from memory, but you should get
the idea anyway.)

A user catalog connector alias is created by using:

DEFINE -
   ALIAS(NAME(aliasname) -
   RELATE(user.catalog.name)) -
   CAT(master.catalog)

A data set alias is created by using

DEFINE -
   ALIAS(NAME(real.data.set.name) -
   RELATE(other.name.you.want.to.use.for.the.data.set)) -
   CAT(same.catalog.as.for.real.data.set.name)

As you can see, the differences are what you specify as the alias name,
what you RELATE the alias to, and where you must place the alias entry.

LISTCAT ALIAS will show both kinds.  The associations (related-to)
field in the output will tell you what kind of alias it is; if it's a
user catalog name, it's a catalog connector alias.  Otherwise, it's a
data set alias.

To find all the user catalog connector aliases in the normal order of
catalog search (not what I think the OP wanted, but just to be
complete), run a LISTCAT ALIAS ALL against the master catalog.  All
those associated with a user catalog name are catalog connector aliases.
  Any others are data set aliases.  (If you don't know the names of your
catalogs, see the first command below.)

To find the data set aliases, run:

- LISTCAT USERCATALOG against the master catalog to find all the user
catalog entries.

- LISTCAT ALIAS ALL CAT(usercat.name) against *each* of the catalogs
appearing in the output from the command above.  For true user catalogs,
this will show only data set aliases.  For other master catalogs that
are connected to the master catalog (as user catalogs), it will show
both user catalog connector aliases and data set aliases.

For any catalogs that are not connected to the master catalog, I'm
afraid you're on your own so far as finding them goes, but once you find
them and IMPORT CONNECT them to the master catalog, the second command
above will work.

Having completed the steps above, you should have a complete list of
every kind of alias entry on your entire system.

HTH,

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Re: IBM System z - A New Dimension in Computing webcast

2010-07-15 Thread Ken Porowski

I'll settle for Galadriel grin  

-Original Message-
Jim Elliott

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:01:44 -0400, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com
wrote:

From the signup page

IBM Breakthrough System Virtual Event

Every once in a while a technological breakthrough changes everything.

Today's IT environments are built using diverse computing technologies.
On a smarter planet, these systems can operate as one. Please join us 
to be the first to hear about a groundbreaking approach to computing

The one system that will unite all coming July 22nd.

So maybe not zNext or z11 maybe z1 or zOne or zNeo grin

One system to rule them all, One system to find them, One system to 
bring them all and in the cloud bind them

Apologies to JRRT

So I missed a possible Lord of the Rings alliteration. Don't worry, we
won't have Frodo running around as an avatar.

Jim

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Not getting my own posts (REPRO) - Anybody getting any bothersome rejected mails

2010-07-15 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)

Cross-posted to IBM-MAIN and MVS-OE

Since a few days I no longer get a copy of my own posts. I verified the
settings (REPRO). Since this happens on both lists, I'm think it might
be 
our mail server rejecting the mails because they are arriving from the
internet and have been sent on behalf of me.

I hope that the server would silently drop those mails and not be
sending
some kind of rejected message back (which then might be distibuted to
the
list members).

So, if anybody is getting some kind of rejected message from me
(actually 
from our mail server) please tell me so I can find out how to stop
bothering
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Re: Rebuild Pending Duplexed Structures

2010-07-15 Thread Mark A. Brooks

From the z/OS V1.12 preview announcment at
http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/8/897/ENUS210-008/ENUS210-008.PDF

In z/OS V1.12 a new DISPLAY XCF,REALLOCATE,TEST option is planned to
simulate the reallocation process and provide information about changes the
REALLOCATE command would attempt to make, and any errors that might
be encountered if an actual REALLOCATE process were to be performed. This
capability is intended to provide information you can use to decide when to
invoke the actual REALLOCATE process, and also whether you may need to make
any coupling facility configuration changes before issuing the actual REALLOCATE
command. A new DISPLAY XCF,REALLOCATE,REPORT command is also planned,
to provide detailed information on the results experienced by a previously
executed REALLOCATE command. This capability is intended to help you find such
information without searching through the system log for REALLOCATE-related
processing and exception messages.


As to your current issue, since your policy change only showed a few
structures as change pending, there is a fairly good chance that the
REALLOCATE would have touched only those structures -- assuming all the
other structures were already in their preferred locations.  For structures
already in their preferred location, XCF would have read the CFRM policy,
run its algorithm to decide whether the structure ought to be, see that no
change was needed, and moved on to the next structure.  So the only real
overhead in that case would be the messages issued to document what
REALLOCATE decided to do to the structure (namely, nothing).  And even for
the structures that were in fact change pending, depending on what exactly
your policy update was, there is a chance that the REALLOCATE would not have
touched them either.  In a sense, REALLOCATE will look ahead to see what
would be the result of its proposed actions and will simply reset the
change pending condition if it sees the structure would end up in the same
state.

But yes, in the end, you have no way of knowing (until z/OS V1.12) what
structures REALLOCATE would end up touching for real.

Yes, the manual process to resolve the change pending condition for a
duplexed structure is cumbersome.

Mark Brooks
z/OS Sysplex Design and Development

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Re: Dataset Aliases - How to find ALL of them

2010-07-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:00:29 -0500, John P Kalinich wrote:

I think it should be...

DEFINE -
   ALIAS(NAME(other.name.you.want.to.use.for.the.data.set) -
   RELATE(real.data.set.name)) -
   CAT(same.catalog.as.for.real.data.set.name)

As I remember it also.

And the effect of CAT(...) is fairly useless because catalog
search will search for the alias in the catalog corresponding
to its HLQ, and not find it unless that also happens to be the
same.catalog.as.for.real.data.set.name.

Or am I missing something?

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Resolution to previous HSM PSM query

2010-07-15 Thread John Kelly

Previously I asked if anyone noticed that HSM's PSM always migrates one 
DSN from [each] volume that meets the minimum requirement (age and size). 
And in fact it does, reply from my PMR:

during PSM HSM processes all of the datasets in the migration queue by 
priority order until it reaches the low threshold 
and it then processes the very last dataset on the queue.  This part of 
the algorithm was added in z/OS 1.8 when the migration scratch queue 
was added.

Jack Kelly
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Re: Access to RACF entries dataset. Operation attribute

2010-07-15 Thread Walt Farrell

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:23:49 -0500, Jorge Garcia jgarc...@mapfre.com wrote:

The RACF security administrator guide said that you can limit the access of
operation users with the access list option, but we aren't successful. The
T99CTM group and T99MIHP group are differents. Neither are operations group.
Could be the problem the T99CTM operations attribute?. We couldn't remove it
(it's not recommendable).

I'm not sure I understand everything you said, but I think you should check
a few things:

(1) make sure the data set is not covered by a GLOBAL DATASET member that
allows ALTER.

(2) It is likely that your OPERATIONS user will have ALTER access to the
catalog.  For SMS-managed or VSAM data sets, ALTER to the catalog will at
least allow deleting data sets.

(3) Users who have CREATE authority to a group can define new data sets,
even if they do not have access to the generic profile that would protect
that data set.  So, if the HLQ for the data set is a group name, and the
user doing the definition of the data set has CREATE in the group, he can
create your data set.  Your user with OPERATIONS has, by default, CREATE in
all groups, and thus can define new data sets for any group where you have
not explicitly connected him with less than CREATE authority.  So, you might
need to CONNECT him to the group with USE authority or lower.

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Re: Dataset Aliases - How to find ALL of them

2010-07-15 Thread Ed Finnell

 
In a message dated 7/15/2010 9:04:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jkali...@csc.com writes:

I think it should be...



Oh, why not just run Alistar's RCNVTCAT  and get a ready made PDS that has 
all the ALIAS and UCATs?




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Re: Dataset Aliases - How to find ALL of them

2010-07-15 Thread John Eells


Quite right.  Sorry 'bout that.

John P Kalinich wrote:

John,

I think it should be...

DEFINE -
ALIAS(NAME(other.name.you.want.to.use.for.the.data.set) -
RELATE(real.data.set.name)) -
CAT(same.catalog.as.for.real.data.set.name)

Regards,
John K



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   Date:   07/15/2010 08:25 AM

   Subject:Re: Dataset Aliases - How to find ALL of them






I am not sure what the OP meant by data set alias, or whether we mean
the same thing when using this term, so...

There are two kinds of aliases.  User catalog connector aliases are
well-defined in the books, I think, but the other kind, which I'll
call data set aliases for now, are not so well-defined if I recall
correctly.  The VSAM equivalent for what I call a data set alias is a
PATHENTRY.  (I'm too lazy to search for terms, look up the command
syntax today, or test it, so all this is from memory, but you should get
the idea anyway.)

A user catalog connector alias is created by using:

DEFINE -
ALIAS(NAME(aliasname) -
RELATE(user.catalog.name)) -
CAT(master.catalog)

A data set alias is created by using

DEFINE -
ALIAS(NAME(real.data.set.name) -
RELATE(other.name.you.want.to.use.for.the.data.set)) -
CAT(same.catalog.as.for.real.data.set.name)

As you can see, the differences are what you specify as the alias name,
what you RELATE the alias to, and where you must place the alias entry.

LISTCAT ALIAS will show both kinds.  The associations (related-to)
field in the output will tell you what kind of alias it is; if it's a
user catalog name, it's a catalog connector alias.  Otherwise, it's a
data set alias.

To find all the user catalog connector aliases in the normal order of
catalog search (not what I think the OP wanted, but just to be
complete), run a LISTCAT ALIAS ALL against the master catalog.  All
those associated with a user catalog name are catalog connector aliases.
   Any others are data set aliases.  (If you don't know the names of your
catalogs, see the first command below.)

To find the data set aliases, run:

- LISTCAT USERCATALOG against the master catalog to find all the user
catalog entries.

- LISTCAT ALIAS ALL CAT(usercat.name) against *each* of the catalogs
appearing in the output from the command above.  For true user catalogs,
this will show only data set aliases.  For other master catalogs that
are connected to the master catalog (as user catalogs), it will show
both user catalog connector aliases and data set aliases.

For any catalogs that are not connected to the master catalog, I'm
afraid you're on your own so far as finding them goes, but once you find
them and IMPORT CONNECT them to the master catalog, the second command
above will work.

Having completed the steps above, you should have a complete list of
every kind of alias entry on your entire system.

HTH,

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Subject: Re: JES2 Exit 53 problem

2010-07-15 Thread Mark Yuhas

I stand corrected - I thought I had created Exit #53 when we migrated to
z/OS 1.4.
Anyway, I have used the similar code in Exit #3 since 1988.
Yes, I assembled Exit #53 with a USER Environment and it is loaded in
the LPA.  

LOADMOD(JES2X003) STORAGE=PVT
LOADMOD(JES2X053) STORAGE=LPA

JES2X053   $MODULE   ENVIRON=(USER,ANY)
JES2X003   $MODULE   ENVIRON=JES2

I guess I will just call this a feature.


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DFHSM, Control-O, and Top Secret issue

2010-07-15 Thread Bill Johnson

We have an LPAR that isn't running DFHSM and occasionally a dataset needs 
recalled. A WTO is generated and when Control-O tries to issue the CANCEL 
command automatically, Top Secret prevents the issuance of the command. Anyone 
see this before and why does Top Secret stop Control-O from issuing the CANCEL 
command?

Bill Johnson




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The GIS 20: Essential Skills featured at ESRI.com

2010-07-15 Thread Gina Clemmer, New Urban Research

Dear Listers,

I recently wrote a book called The GIS 20: Essential Skills. It has been
published by ESRI press and is featured today at http://www.esri.com/ under
Announcements on the homepage. I wanted to get the word out for those that
are at the UC. It's available at the bookstore and the ESRI press booth. I also
wanted to say thanks to those who filled out the survey, which helped to shape
this book.

The book was inspired by a poll of 500 GIS practitioners, it is an
easy-to-understand guide that emphasizes the top twenty skills most people need
to master to be successful using GIS. A quick and comprehensive introduction to
fundamental GIS skills, this book includes a data CD for completing the
exercises. There are a few unique things about this book:

-This book teaches 20 essential skills in 20 exercises. It's a completely new
way of teaching GIS focusing on completing a specific and common task, such as
geocoding, or reference mapping.

-It's the most version free book ESRI offers to date, it's written for ArcGIS
10 but is compatible with 9.x versions of the software.

-It include a data cd, but the exercises are written so your own data can be
used to complete exercises.

-The book is written in a relaxed tone, using everyday language (non-jargon),
which is a significant change from previous ESRI books.

-The price point is more reasonable than many other GIS books.

To view a table of contents and a sample chapter, please visit
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if you are an educator you can order a free desk copy

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Note that desk copies will not be shipped until well after the initial book
release in mid-July.

Please feel free to email me with any questions or comments. I am also happy to
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Re: The GIS 20: Essential Skills featured at ESRI.com

What the ?

Gina Clemmer, New Urban Research n...@urban-research.info 7/15/2010
1:28 PM
Dear Listers,

-This book teaches 20 essential skills in 20 exercises. It's a completely new
way of teaching GIS focusing on completing a specific and common task, such as
geocoding, or reference mapping.

-It's the most version free book ESRI offers to date, it's written for ArcGIS
10 but is compatible with 9.x versions of the software.

-It include a data cd, but the exercises are written so your own data can be
used to complete exercises.

-The book is written in a relaxed tone, using everyday language (non-jargon),
which is a significant change from previous ESRI books.

-The price point is more reasonable than many other GIS books.

To view a table of contents and a sample chapter, please visit
http://www.esri.com/ or the ESRI Press site at
http://esripress.esri.com/display/index.cfm?fuseaction=displaywebsiteID=176moduleID=1

if you are an educator you can order a free desk copy

http://esripress.esri.com/offers/deskcopy/index.cfm

Note that desk copies will not be shipped until well after the initial book
release in mid-July.

Please feel free to email me with any questions or comments. I am also happy to
schedule a call with you and your GIS colleagues to discuss.

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Re: The GIS 20: Essential Skills featured at ESRI.com

2010-07-15 Thread Ed Finnell

 
In a message dated 7/15/2010 12:33:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
scott.r...@joann.com writes:

What the ?
 

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HMC Standalone Dump Profile

2010-07-15 Thread TUFFORD, CYNTHIA L

Can someone point me at doc to setup a HMC standalone dump profile?

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Re: The GIS 20: Essential Skills featured at ESRI.com

2010-07-15 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht

Gina Clemmer wrote:

I recently wrote a book called The   [ ... rest of spam snipped ... ]

Another writer spamming IBM-MAIN about his/her/it creativity...

Is this spam related to z/OS? 

I looked at that website and the privacy statement and discovered this ugly 
statement:

'Occasionally, ESRI uses the services of bonded mailing houses that are 
authorized to use your personally identifiable data only for the benefit of 
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Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

I wonder if this was tested ever: same business logic in batch or CICS. NO\o
zAAP installed. Who is faster? and in case of zAAP?

Itschak

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Re: DFHSM, Control-O, and Top Secret issue

2010-07-15 Thread Binyamin Dissen

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 10:10:30 -0700 Bill Johnson mellonb...@yahoo.com wrote:

:We have an LPAR that isn't running DFHSM and occasionally a dataset needs 
:recalled. A WTO is generated and when Control-O tries to issue the CANCEL 
:command automatically, Top Secret prevents the issuance of the command. 
Anyone 
:see this before and why does Top Secret stop Control-O from issuing the 
CANCEL 
:command?

First of all, Control-O should be building a UTOKEN with the proper authority
and supply is to MGCRE.

Or you can create profiles in the TSS equivalent of the OPERCMDS class.

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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

The better programmer.

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wonder if this was tested ever: same business logic in batch or CICS. NO\o
 zAAP installed. Who is faster? and in case of zAAP?

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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

2010-07-15 Thread Chase, John

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach
 
 I wonder if this was tested ever: same business logic in batch or
CICS. NO\o
 zAAP installed. Who is faster? and in case of zAAP?

It's been a few months since we did an informal comparison, but on a
z9-BC without zAAP the CICS COBOL code was noticeably faster than the
equivalent CICS Java code.

-jc-

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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

Funny. This is not a 100 m run between an 40+ Cobol programmer and a young
Java prog.

ITschak

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:

 The better programmer.

 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I wonder if this was tested ever: same business logic in batch or CICS.
 NO\o
  zAAP installed. Who is faster? and in case of zAAP?
 
  Itschak
 
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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

As expected, I believe. But did the second run was faster as the JVM was
loaded? What is the ratio?

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:

   -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach
 
  I wonder if this was tested ever: same business logic in batch or
 CICS. NO\o
  zAAP installed. Who is faster? and in case of zAAP?

 It's been a few months since we did an informal comparison, but on a
 z9-BC without zAAP the CICS COBOL code was noticeably faster than the
 equivalent CICS Java code.

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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

And Kirk, you are THE java technolgy here. Protect your case...

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.comwrote:

 As expected, I believe. But did the second run was faster as the JVM was
 loaded? What is the ratio?


 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:

   -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach
 
  I wonder if this was tested ever: same business logic in batch or
 CICS. NO\o
  zAAP installed. Who is faster? and in case of zAAP?

 It's been a few months since we did an informal comparison, but on a
 z9-BC without zAAP the CICS COBOL code was noticeably faster than the
 equivalent CICS Java code.

-jc-

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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

2010-07-15 Thread Chase, John

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach
 
 As expected, I believe. But did the second run was faster as the JVM
was
 loaded? What is the ratio?

Best I can recall, we compared the timings after the JVM was built
(first invocation of the Java txn took about 5 seconds; pretty much
sub-second after that).  The COBOL was just enough faster to be
noticeable at the terminal.  The txn retrieved and displayed one record
from a VSAM KSDS.  Best recollection from TMON data is that the COBOL
ran about 20% - 30% faster than the Java.

-jc-

 
 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:
 
-Original Message-
   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach
  
   I wonder if this was tested ever: same business logic in batch or
  CICS. NO\o
   zAAP installed. Who is faster? and in case of zAAP?
 
  It's been a few months since we did an informal comparison, but on a
  z9-BC without zAAP the CICS COBOL code was noticeably faster than
the
  equivalent CICS Java code.
 
 -jc-
 
 
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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

2010-07-15 Thread Hal Merritt

 Interesting. One also has to wonder about scalability. Even small differences 
in resources can add up pretty quick under high volumes. Did you see any 
evidence on how this might shake out? 

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 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach

 As expected, I believe. But did the second run was faster as the JVM
was
 loaded? What is the ratio?

Best I can recall, we compared the timings after the JVM was built
(first invocation of the Java txn took about 5 seconds; pretty much
sub-second after that).  The COBOL was just enough faster to be
noticeable at the terminal.  The txn retrieved and displayed one record
from a VSAM KSDS.  Best recollection from TMON data is that the COBOL
ran about 20% - 30% faster than the Java.

-jc-

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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

Better not measure the 2nd time, mabye the 200th timeJava's JIT
optimizes frequently run code.
Sure, if you count the overhead of getting the JVM running and Java
app translated to optimized machine code, it will be slower than COBOL
for equivalent code (if such a thing even exists for a complex app).

But I'm sticking with my original answer for most serious
applications: the better programmer wins.   In complex systems, the
better programmer/design is a more significant factor in performance
than the language choice.   Largely, this favors COBOL, since most
Java programmers lack the skill to write high-performance code.   Java
is a much nicer language than traditional COBOL (IMO), supporting
modern OO software engineering, etc. and *can* be used to create fast,
maintainable, and reusable code.  There are lots of examples, but
these are still a *tiny* percentage of all Java apps.

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

PS  Stand back, this is one of those threads :-)

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com wrote:
 As expected, I believe. But did the second run was faster as the JVM was
 loaded? What is the ratio?

 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote:

   -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach
 
  I wonder if this was tested ever: same business logic in batch or
 CICS. NO\o
  zAAP installed. Who is faster? and in case of zAAP?

 It's been a few months since we did an informal comparison, but on a
 z9-BC without zAAP the CICS COBOL code was noticeably faster than the
 equivalent CICS Java code.

    -jc-

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Re: DFHSM, Control-O, and Top Secret issue

2010-07-15 Thread Rob Schramm

Bill,

I am unsure why this would be surprising.  If the security is setup, 
properly.. you can deny pretty much anything.

TSS PER(control-o's acid) OPERCMDS(MVS.REPLY) ACC(READ)

TSSUTIL security report should show the reason for the denial.


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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com wrote:
 And Kirk, you are THE java technolgy here. Protect your case...


OK, how about this:

If your are deciding whether to use COBOL or Java based on asking this
question, use COBOL :-)

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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

2010-07-15 Thread Howard Brazee

On 15 Jul 2010 12:21:10 -0700, k...@dovetail.com (Kirk Wolf) wrote:

If your are deciding whether to use COBOL or Java based on asking this
question, use COBOL :-)

However that should not be the sole criterion.In fact, it almost
is useful only as finding evidence to support the choice I want.

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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

2010-07-15 Thread Chase, John

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hal Merritt
 
 
  Interesting. One also has to wonder about scalability. Even small
differences in resources can add up
 pretty quick under high volumes. Did you see any evidence on how this
might shake out?

No; and since it was a (very) informal comparison, mainly just to get a
feel for running Java in CICS, we didn't really look for any.  And at
the time we didn't have any Java programmers who knew anything about
the mainframe (let alone CICS). A couple of our COBOL wizards
basically just copied an example or two from an IBM Redbook, and I set
up the JVM profiles from the same Redbook.

   -jc-

 
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach
 
  As expected, I believe. But did the second run was faster as the JVM
 was
  loaded? What is the ratio?
 
 Best I can recall, we compared the timings after the JVM was built
 (first invocation of the Java txn took about 5 seconds; pretty much
 sub-second after that).  The COBOL was just enough faster to be
 noticeable at the terminal.  The txn retrieved and displayed one
record
 from a VSAM KSDS.  Best recollection from TMON data is that the COBOL
 ran about 20% - 30% faster than the Java.
 
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The Kreuter Report

2010-07-15 Thread Ron Hawkins

All, 

 

I'm wondering if anyone out there still has a copy of the Kreuter Report Vol
1. This was a set of notes that Len Kreuter gave out as part of his Computer
Performance and Equipment Planning classes, and I have misplaced this
volume. Please contact me off list if you can help me out.

 

I wonder what happened to Leonard A Kreuter? He taught some pretty sound
techniques, but he seems to have faded from view during the late 80s.

 

Ron

 


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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

Kirk, we do not have any influence on the quality of our programmers. John
tested the sample code and at average, Java is slower and consume more CPU
then Cobol (I believe). What I am trying to get is if EGL customers have any
reason to select to generate Java over Cobol.

Do they? What about using zAAP? it will not speed up or consume less cpu
then a CP, the only advantage over CP is that it is not counted in CPU usage
reports (YET).

ITschak

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com
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  And Kirk, you are THE java technolgy here. Protect your case...
 

 OK, how about this:

 If your are deciding whether to use COBOL or Java based on asking this
 question, use COBOL :-)

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Re: Dataset Aliases - How to find ALL of them

2010-07-15 Thread Neil Duffee

FDR client?  FDReport variable DSNALCNT.

[snip]
TITLE   LINE='RUNDATE RUNTIME: +
Datasets having aliases defined'
REPORT  FIELD=(DSNALIAS,
NAME,DSSN,DSNALCNT,RELALCNT)
XSELECT DSNALCNT.GT.0
SORTFIELD=(INDEX,DSN),order by ...
BREAK=(YES,NO)sub-totals?
SUMMARY FIELD=(DSN,BYTES,BYTESUSE)
[snip]

Runs daily here to generate EXCLUDE DSN= cards for *all* my FDR
utilities specifically FdrCopy MOVE TYPE=DSF and FdrAbr DUMP TYPE=ARC
that will both trash the aliases when the base dataset is manipulated.  
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 -Original Message-
 From: Roy Reynolds [mailto:roy.rey...@uco...edu] 
 Sent: July 14, 2010 13:54
 Subject: Dataset Aliases - How to find ALL of them
 
 [snip]
 Is there a way to list all the dataset aliases and their target
datasets?
 [snip]

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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

ITschak,

I'm really not try to pick on you, but surely you must realize the
folly of such a question.
Now we find out that what you *really* want to know is:

How does the performance of Java code generated by EGL compared to
COBOL code generated by EGL?

This is a very different question. Which do you think will give you a
better answer? -

a) Create a set of representative benchmarks in EGL and compare the
results; generating Java vs. COBOL
b) Ask on IBM-Main:  Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Kirk, we do not have any influence on the quality of our programmers. John
 tested the sample code and at average, Java is slower and consume more CPU
 then Cobol (I believe). What I am trying to get is if EGL customers have any
 reason to select to generate Java over Cobol.

 Do they? What about using zAAP? it will not speed up or consume less cpu
 then a CP, the only advantage over CP is that it is not counted in CPU usage
 reports (YET).

 ITschak

 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  And Kirk, you are THE java technolgy here. Protect your case...
 

 OK, how about this:

 If your are deciding whether to use COBOL or Java based on asking this
 question, use COBOL :-)

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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

2010-07-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL

a) Create a set of representative benchmarks in EGL and compare the
results; generating Java vs. COBOL

Representative benchmark is an oxymoron.
Just like country music. (8-{]}

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Re: Access to RACF entries dataset. Operation attribute

2010-07-15 Thread Jorge Garcia

Elardus:

You will need to place NONE or READ for BOTH ids (T99MIHP and T99CTM) 
in the access list of that dataset. 

Or clear out all accesses, place the dataset in WARNING and test again.

It doesn't work.

Hmmm, what is the Started Task OWNER name of the Control-M? The same 
as T99CTM? 

No. It's Z99OWNE. Its the same user for all STC, profile datasets etc.

What is the eventual group access of Control-M? 

The eventual group access is T99GRP00.

Does T99CTM belongs to more than ONE group(s)? 

No It doesn't

Also, what is the TRUSTED and PRIVILEGED status of the STC's segment in 
RACF? 

TRUSTD = No and PRIVILEGED= NO

Walt:

First, sorry for my poor English. I'll try to explain better.


 make sure the data set is not covered by a GLOBAL DATASET member that 
allows ALTER. 

We've defined a profile dataset 
called PRO02.AT00.P02.TCPRBD02.VSAM.NOVALE (generic)
It's the name of dataset. There is another profile dataset called PRO02.* and 
T99CTM has access ALTER in the access list. 

It is likely that your OPERATIONS user will have ALTER access to the 
catalog.  For SMS-managed or VSAM data sets, ALTER to the catalog will at 
least allow deleting data sets. 

Yes It's right. My user has operations attribute. I remove it and when I submit 
the job, I can delete the dataset but I can not defined:

$HASP373 MIGHP01  STARTED - INIT 30   - CLASS A - SYS LEG1 
IEF403I MIGHP01 - STARTED - TIME=14.40.05  
-  --TIMINGS (MINS.)-- 
-STEPNAME PROCSTEPRC   EXCP   CONNTCBSRB  CLOCK   SERV 
-PASO05   00 91 20.00.00 .0803 
ICH408I USER(JGARCI1 ) GROUP(U90ATSF ) NAME(JORGE GARCIA JU )  
  PRO02.AT00.P02.TCPRBD02.VSAM.NOVALE CL(DATASET ) VOL(*BLANK) 
  DEFINE - INSUFFICIENT AUTHORITY  
-PASO10   12 39 11.00.00 .0347 
IEF404I MIGHP01 - ENDED - TIME=14.40.05

---
//PASO05   EXEC   PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(4,LT) 
//* BORRADO DEL VSAM 
//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=*,OUTLIM=0   
//SYSIN DD   *   
   DELETE PRO02.AT00.P02.TCPRBD02.VSAM.NOVALE

---

//PASO10   EXEC   PGM=IDCAMS,COND=(4,LT)  
//SYSPRINT  DD   SYSOUT=*,OUTLIM=0
//SYSIN DD   *
   DEF CL -   
   (NAME (PRO02.AT00.P02.TCPRBD02.VSAM.NOVALE) -  
RECSZ (32752 32752) - 
BUFSP (65536) -   
CISZ (32768) -
REUSE -   
SHR (2 3) -   
VOLUMES (SIS512) -
TRK (1 1) -   
NUMBERED) 
/*

Users who have CREATE authority to a group can define new data sets, 
even if they do not have access to the generic profile that would protect 
that data set.  So, if the HLQ for the data set is a group name, and the 
user doing the definition of the data set has CREATE in the group, he can 
create your data set.  Your user with OPERATIONS has, by default, CREATE in 
all groups, and thus can define new data sets for any group where you have 
not explicitly connected him with less than CREATE authority.  So, you might 
need to CONNECT him to the group with USE authority or lower

All the authoritys are USE. I've pasted below:

USER=T99CTM  NAME=STC CONTROLM  OWNER=Z99OWNE   
CREATED=00.049   
 DEFAULT-GROUP=T99GRP00 PASSDATE=N/APASS-INTERVAL=N/A 
PHRASEDATE=N/A 
 ATTRIBUTES=SPECIAL OPERATIONS   
 ATTRIBUTES=PROTECTED AUDITOR
 REVOKE DATE=NONE   RESUME DATE=NONE 
 LAST-ACCESS=10.196/22:46:50 
 CLASS AUTHORIZATIONS=NONE   
 NO-INSTALLATION-DATA
 NO-MODEL-NAME   
 LOGON ALLOWED   (DAYS)  (TIME)  
 -   
 ANYDAY  ANYTIME 
  GROUP=T99GRP00  AUTH=USE  CONNECT-OWNER=Z99OWNE   CONNECT-
DATE=00.049  
CONNECTS= 5,092  UACC=NONE LAST-
CONNECT=10.196/22:46:50  
CONNECT ATTRIBUTES=NONE

Re: Access to RACF entries dataset. Operation attribute

2010-07-15 Thread Jorge Garcia

Sorry. I forget something:

 make sure the data set is not covered by a GLOBAL DATASET member 
that allows ALTER. 

The dataset is covered with the right profile. --

INFORMATION FOR DATASET PRO02.AT00.P02.TCPRBD02.VSAM.NOVALE (G)
   
LEVEL  OWNERUNIVERSAL ACCESS   WARNING   ERASE 
-      ---   - 
 00Z99OWNE NONE  YES NO
   
AUDITING   
   
FAILURES(READ) 
   
NOTIFY 
   
NO USER TO BE NOTIFIED 
   
YOUR ACCESS  CREATION GROUP  DATASET TYPE  
---  --    
   ALTERU90ATSFNON-VSAM
   
NO INSTALLATION DATA   
   
CATALOGUED DATA SETS AFFECTED BY PROFILE CHANGE
---
PRO02.AT00.P02.TCPRBD02.VSAM.NOVALE
PRO02.AT00.P02.TCPRBD02.VSAM.NOVALE.DATA (D)   

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Re: VTAM Cross domain

2010-07-15 Thread Chris Mason

Scott

 I don't have any PATH statements in my configuration.

Congratulations - although I suspect it was a colleague of yours who at some 
time in the past managed not only to enable your intercommunicating VTAMs 
for APPN but transform them from using subarea SNA to using purely APPN 
SNA - hence the absence of PATH statements.

Of course it was a guess that, if you had been responsible for the 
transformation, you might well have felt inclined to suggest not having to 
tackle enabling APPN.

 ... I was just trying to inform him that he did have that option. 

Incidentally, he did actually say that he really didn't have channel-to-channel 
facilities available so it's more than pointing out an option, it's a matter 
of 
acquiring the necessary probably fibre technology - unless it's built in to 
the z/10 CEC - I'm not a specialist in ordering equipment ...

Chris Mason

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:46:27 -0400, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com 
wrote:

It's not that I want him to stay in his safety zone, I was just trying to 
inform 
him that he did have that option.  I don't have any PATH statements in my 
configuration.

 Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net 07/14/10 8:47 PM 
Neal

 Because it's easier and cleaner to just put an entry into the session
manager, ...

It seems - not unusually of course - that you are looking for the easiest
solution. This will be true *only* if you can replace your assumed subarea
ESCON channel-to-channel with a like-for-like connection between the VTAM
subarea nodes so that the DISPLAY NET,STATIONS command has the same
output with the z/10 as with whatever the z/10 replaced.

You will continue to use subarea PATH statements and home and away
CDRMS - possibly along with liberal start options - or possibly your
installation is antediluvian and has CDRSCs whenever there is a sniff
of cross-domain. It's the dreaded PATH statements that are forcing you
down that easy road.

If this isn't possible, sleeves will need to be rolled up!

Judging from his responses, Scott Rowe - assisted by Allan Staller and to
some extent by Dave Gibney - seems to want you to stay in the VTAM
subarea comfort zone maybe because he is - and they are - also aware of
the PATH statement handcuffs but want also to protect you from APPN. Thus
there is some emphasis on contriving to set up channel-to-channel definitions
along the lines of my initial suggestion So my first suggestion is to check
whether or not there really is no channel-to-channel capability and, if not,
why not..

However, if you really cannot manage to repair the damage caused by not
having planned for a replacement for the ESCON-based connections used by
the replaced CEC or CECs, you'll need to read - again? - my previous post and
go the TN3270E route or the APPN/Enterprise Extender route - or both.

Chris Mason

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:38:05 -0500, Neal Eckhardt
neckha...@cnyric.org wrote:

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:39:57 -0700, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu
wrote:

Hipersocket  and then you can use  TSO telnet to reach the other LPAR.

But, I have to ask, why not just have them start another 3270 emulator
session to the other LPAR?


Because it's easier and cleaner to just put an entry into the session 
manager,
and let it find the software running in another LPAR through the cross 
domain
connection.

Neal

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Re: VTAM Cross domain

2010-07-15 Thread Chris Mason

Dave

Sorry - I used precision in order to resolve the ambiguity and it seems I 
shouldn't - but it was the only clue I had.

Since your TCPIP included a reference to the transport layer - although it 
was the wrong transport layer - perhaps that was an additional clue! - given a 
choice between HiperSockets and Enterprise Extender I chose the one which 
employs a transport layer. HiperSockets of course has no interest whatsoever 
in the transport layer since it provides interfaces and connections for the 
network layer.

Chris Mason

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:04:33 -0700, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu 
wrote:

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Dave

 I missed session manager if it was in your original post.

It wasn't. Very little was!

 I don't know much about running cross domain or Enterprise Extender
of
the Hipersockets, but as it is just another TCPIP, if it's possible over
wire, it's
possible over memory.

Actually Enterprise Extender (EE) is not really just another TCPIP -

It here refers to Hipersocket, not EE

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Is there any IBM supplied sample DB2 stored procedures

2010-07-15 Thread Dave Day

I'm looking for the path of least resistance to be able to start a DB2 
stored procedure address space, and run a stored procedure.  I am not 
interested in what the actual stored procedure does, just the mechanics of the 
address space coming into existence, running the procedure, and then 
terminating.  Does IBM supply any sample that is ready to run?  Anything in one 
of the load libraries that come with DB2?  Any help would be appreciated.

--Dave Day

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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

2010-07-15 Thread John McKown

On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 21:22 +0300, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
 I wonder if this was tested ever: same business logic in batch or CICS. NO\o
 zAAP installed. Who is faster? and in case of zAAP?
 
 Itschak
 

I'd lay my money on COBOL in general. But, then again, it depends on
what the program is doing and how good the programmer is.

Now, if a zAAP is involved, I might go with Java. It depends on the
model of the machine. A zAAP always runs full speed. So it would likely
be faster than COBOL on a kneecapped machine.

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Maranatha! 

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Re: Access to RACF entries dataset. Operation attribute

2010-07-15 Thread Schwarz, Barry A

There are no entries in the access list to deny your OPERATIONS user access.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Jorge Garcia
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Access to RACF entries dataset. Operation attribute

Sorry. I forget something:

 make sure the data set is not covered by a GLOBAL DATASET member
that allows ALTER. 

The dataset is covered with the right profile. --

INFORMATION FOR DATASET PRO02.AT00.P02.TCPRBD02.VSAM.NOVALE (G)

LEVEL  OWNERUNIVERSAL ACCESS   WARNING   ERASE
-      ---   -
 00Z99OWNE NONE  YES NO

AUDITING

FAILURES(READ)

NOTIFY

NO USER TO BE NOTIFIED

YOUR ACCESS  CREATION GROUP  DATASET TYPE
---  --  
   ALTERU90ATSFNON-VSAM

NO INSTALLATION DATA

CATALOGUED DATA SETS AFFECTED BY PROFILE CHANGE
---
PRO02.AT00.P02.TCPRBD02.VSAM.NOVALE
PRO02.AT00.P02.TCPRBD02.VSAM.NOVALE.DATA (D)

Regards

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Re: DFHSM, Control-O, and Top Secret issue

2010-07-15 Thread Bill Johnson

Control-O already has auth to perform all of the commands that we've been 
running for years. This is a new rule owned by contrlo but initiated by 
programmers when they need to recall a migrated dataset. It looks like the 
programmers ID owns the recall and Control-O can't cancel it. Until that is the 
security guy gave storage admin auth to the programmers. The reason for this 
need is a long story and goes away this Sunday.

Thanks






From: Rob Schramm rob.schr...@siriuscom.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 3:18:17 PM
Subject: Re: DFHSM, Control-O, and Top Secret issue

Bill,

I am unsure why this would be surprising.  If the security is setup, 
properly.. you can deny pretty much anything.

TSS PER(control-o's acid) OPERCMDS(MVS.REPLY) ACC(READ)

TSSUTIL security report should show the reason for the denial.


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Re: Did a mainframe glitch trigger DBS Bank outage?

2010-07-15 Thread Linda Mooney

Thirded! 



Stuff happens.  We try to keep it from happening, but sometimes it happens.  In 
most cases, it's what happens next that is the most important part.  I am 
impressed with the way that DBS and IBM handled this issue. 



Linda Mooney 



Thanks for sharing this, Timothy 


- Original Message - 
From: Saul Richman saul.rich...@hp.com 
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:17:01 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: Did a mainframe glitch trigger DBS Bank outage? 

Seconded. 

Best CEO Apology Message I've ever seen. 

It was refreshing honest, clear and concise instead of hiding behind a 
series of coded Dilbert buzzwords. 

If I moved to Singapore, I'd definitely bank with DBS, because I'd trust 
them to tell me the full truth :-) 

Cheers and thanks Tim for the excellent link. 

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:15:30 +0800, Timothy Sipples 
timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com wrote: 

Ken Porowski writes: 
This was one of the best apologies I have seen, even giving some 
details of escalation process. 
 
For what it's worth, I agree. I'm very impressed with that statement. 
 
Speaking only for myself (as always). 
 
- - - - - 
Timothy Sipples 
Resident Enterprise Architect 
STG Value Creation  Complex Deals Team 
IBM Growth Markets (Based in Singapore) 
E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com 
 
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Re: Cobol vs Java - who is faster?

2010-07-15 Thread Robert Woodside

On Thursday 15 July 2010 16:04, Itschak Mugzach wrote:

 Do they? What about using zAAP? it will not speed up or consume less
 cpu then a CP, the only advantage over CP is that it is not counted
 in CPU usage reports (YET).

Um, I believe that all the specialty engines always run at full speed, 
whereas a CP may not (if it's sub-capacity). So, yes, it may speed up 
the Java code.


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http://www.woodsway.com

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IEFU83, IEFU84 and IEFU85

2010-07-15 Thread Charles Mills

Does anyone know - for writing SMF records for invalid logons and access
violations detected by RACF, does RACF use the SMFEWTM interface that
invokes IEFU83? Or does it (ever?) use the branch entry or x-memory branch
entry that invokes IEFU84 or IEFU85?

 

What about ACF2?

 

Thanks,

 

Charles Mills




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Re: VTAM Cross domain