Re: Mainframe Testing

2012-02-06 Thread Mohd Rizwan
Hi Lim, Yes it is QA methodology in the z/OS.. As i am beginner... On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 6:49 AM, Lim Ming Liang limm...@unifi.my wrote: Are you looking for some kind of debugging tools, or QA methodology in the z/OS ? Regards Lim ML On 06/02/12 12:47 PM, Mohd Rizwan wrote: Hi

Re: Mainframe Testing

2012-02-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
As others have pointed out - there are many. Perhaps you can tell us what you want to test? Or how this information is to be used? Is this COBOL, JAVA, CICS, IMS, DB2, MQ, ASSEMBLER, PL/1, etc that will be tested? Do you need interactive testing or batch? Also what software vendors do you

Re: C program and LE/IMS option

2012-02-06 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:04:55 +0200, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com wrote: I have a C program that is called intensively more then 10 times per second. As it runs under LE, it requires LE to re-create the language execution environment which is a huge overhead for a small and short running

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Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Ken MacKenzie
Hi All, I'm not sure if this is the appropriate forum, please point me to the correct one if it's not. I'm playing around with regular expressions and I want to achieve the following. I spoke to a Unix geek but he didn't really understand what I was asking. Given the following sample data,

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Martin Packer
Looks to me like it's being greedy. Look up the term greedy in relation to Regexps and you'll see the match is much wider than you anticipated - matching many more characters. Not sure if awk can do non-greedy matching. But there are usually workarounds if not. (And this just about exhausts my

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Roberto Halais
I don't know if this is what you want: /* REXX */ EXP = ABCDEFGNOPQRXXXABCDEFGNOPQRYYYABCDEFGNOPQRZZZ START = POS(QR,EXP) SAY START EXIT 0 Result is 15 On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Ken MacKenzie ken.macken...@pramerica.ie wrote: Hi All, I'm not sure if this is the

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:02:42 +, Martin Packer wrote: Looks to me like it's being greedy. Look up the term greedy in relation to Regexps and you'll see the match is much wider than you anticipated - matching many more characters. Not sure if awk can do non-greedy matching. But there are usually

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Ken MacKenzie
Yeah, I know I can do that particular search in REXX but I'm trying to utilise regular expressions as I think that they should provide greater flexibility, if they'd only do what I want. The concept of looking for the first string just doesn't seem to exist in the Unix world. Seems crazy to

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread McKown, John
Remember that a regex, by default, is greedy. IOW, it matches as much as is possible. So with the CD.*QR pattern, you match from the first CD until the __last__ QR it can find. Not the first QR it can find. You would need the non greedy regex CD.*?QR . However, it is unfortunate that IBM, in

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Ken MacKenzie
Yes, I pretty much understand the concept of GREEDY. AFAICS I'm supposed to be able to use a ? To stop on first occurrence (eg awk 'gsub(/CD.*?QR/,junkt)' fxdata ) but when I do that I get: awk: /CD.*?QR/: FSUMB031 ?, *, + or - - not preceded by valid regular expression Context is:

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Ken MacKenzie
:-( Xxx:/u/xxx: perl -np -e 's/CD.*?QR/junkt/' fxdata perl: FSUM7351 not found Xxx:/u/xxx: From: McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 06/02/2012 15:44 Subject: Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS) Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Do you need to escape the '?' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ken MacKenzie Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS) Yes, I pretty much understand the

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread McKown, John
On my z/OS 1.12 system (I'm the senior z/OS sysprog), perl in is /usr/lpp/perl/bin. This is where the CBPDO placed it. Perhaps you have this, but just not on your PATH? -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread McKown, John
I just tried that with both sed and awk. Escaping the ? doesn't help. Make is not match at all. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com *

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Ken MacKenzie
It's getting worse :-( Xxx:/usr/lpp/perl/bin: pwd /usr/lpp/perl/bin Xxx:/usr/lpp/perl/bin: ls -la total 1038 drwxr-xr-x 2 ZDDFX3D $#OMGID1 704 Nov 12 2010 . drwxr-xr-x 6 ZDDFX3D $#OMGID1 448 Nov 12 2010 .. -rwxr-xr-x 2 ZDDFX3D $#OMGID1 114688 Nov 12 2010

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread McKown, John
I disagree. At least you have the filesystem there. Unfortunately, I did this so long ago, I did entirely remember what I needed to do to get it running. In addition to the PATH, you need to update the LIBPATH for the dynamically loaded shared objects. On my system, that's:

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 08:44:01 -0600, Ken MacKenzie ken.macken...@pramerica.ie wrote: Hi All, I'm not sure if this is the appropriate forum, please point me to the correct one if it's not. I'm playing around with regular expressions and I want to achieve the following. I spoke to a Unix geek

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread McKown, John
I keep mistyping things today. My fingers are aching horribly. Sorry if I am causing confusion. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com *

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Godfrey Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS) snip try this: awk 'sub(/CD[^Q]*QR/,junkt)' or this:

Global Mirror question.

2012-02-06 Thread Neal Eckhardt
Well, we did a services contract with IBM to get Global Mirror running, and the knowledge transfer was, shall we say, less than impressive. As long as it is working fine, there is no problem, but now that we are trying to deal with a failure, we find a gap in our knowledge. I am learning more

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Ken MacKenzie
Yeah, that worked but in reality, the from string will be supplied by the user and the to string will be computer generated so there's no predicting what they typed. Ken MacKenzie Pramerica Systems Ireland Limited is a private company limited by shares incorporated and registered in the

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:29:07 -0600, McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Godfrey Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:19 AM snip try this: awk 'sub(/CD[^Q]*QR/,junkt)' or this: sed -e

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Martin Packer
Right... This was the kind of workaround for lack of non greedy I was thinking of. Wondering what the IBM C++ support for non-greedy (if any) is. Martin Martin Packer, Mainframe Performance Consultant, zChampion Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email:

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread McKown, John
Yeah, not implementing non greedy regular expressions is not nice. In my not-so-humble opinion. IMO, IBM would have done much better by all to start with Linux as a base and do whatever was needed to get it POSIX compliant and certified. But, IBM tends to have NIH real bad. And z/OS development

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread McKown, John
I would almost bet that awk and sed both use the C language's regex implementation. So I doubt that C (or C++) implements non greedy regexps. Personally, I like pcres: Perl Compatable Regular Expressions. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r)

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:05:01 -0600, McKown, John wrote: Yeah, not implementing non greedy regular expressions is not nice. In my not-so-humble opinion. IMO, IBM would have done much better by all to start with Linux as a base and do whatever was needed to get it POSIX compliant and certified.

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread David Andrews
On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 12:05 -0500, McKown, John wrote: IMO, IBM would have done much better by all to start with Linux as a base and do whatever was needed to get it POSIX compliant and certified. But, IBM tends to have NIH real bad. I recall that Unix-branding was important to IBM, while

Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Hi All, I am being asked if there are relatively simple source-and-JCL inventory control products available for z/OS. I found one myself (XREF product at dcmsi.com), but management wants to know if any other software vendors provide such a product. We're not interested at the moment in full

Re: gcc on z/OS (was: CPP (C++) file on z/OS)

2012-02-06 Thread Tony Harminc
On 4 February 2012 12:03, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 00:53:47 +0100, Tomasz Rola wrote: I don't have any kind of problem with mainframes or the way they are. I accept the fact they are different from what I am used to, and at the same time I am interested. It's

Re: Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-06 Thread Roberts, John J
We just need a simple inventory control product that could answer interactive queries (E.G., What JCL uses this file? Where is this program used?) by programmers and technical support staff. I asked a related question last November (see the thread entitled Scanning JES3 JCL). I am wanting to

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:29:07 -0600, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Godfrey Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Regular

Size of a PDSE member?

2012-02-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(Motivated by a thread on TSO-REXX) Surely PDSE keeps metadata on the storage, whether records or pages, used by each member. It needs the information to reclaim space when a member is deleted. Is there a way to extract the size of a member from this metadata without reading the entire member?

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 12:19:35 -0500, David Andrews wrote: I recall that Unix-branding was important to IBM, while Linus never felt the need for it. Ironically, the market that impelled IBM to OpenEdition never seemed to care that Windows and Linux weren't UNIX branded. -- gil

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6198832018945358.wa.ken.mackenziepramerica...@bama.ua.edu, on 02/06/2012 at 08:44 AM, Ken MacKenzie ken.macken...@pramerica.ie said: I'm playing around with regular expressions and I want to achieve the following. I spoke to a Unix geek but he didn't really understand what I was asking.

Re: gcc on z/OS (was: CPP (C++) file on z/OS)

2012-02-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 12:31:31 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: On 4 February 2012 12:03, Paul Gilmartin wrote: That idea founders on the economics of support. ...  I suspect a single service call to IBM costs, in the aggregate, more than an entire desktop system. Have you priced a support call with

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Martin Packer
John Mckown wrote: I would almost bet that awk and sed both use the C language's regex implementation. So I doubt that C (or C++) implements non greedy regexps. Personally, I like pcres: Perl Compatable Regular Expressions. This is an EXCELLENT example why I advised some developers the

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread McKown, John
Oh, definitely critically important. US Gov required POSIX compliance in order to bid on their contracts. That was the birth of MVS Open Edition. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817)

Re: CPP (C++) file on z/OS

2012-02-06 Thread Donald Likens
I have not made it work yet but I am convinced that the best way to handle sending files that use LF as the new line indicator to a system that understands CRLF as the new line indicator is to use a special translation table (Translate x'15' to x'25'). In the z/OS case I updated the

Sending LF files to z/OS

2012-02-06 Thread Donald Likens
I have not made it work yet but I am convinced that the best way to handle sending files that use LF (unix) new line indicator to a system that understands CRLF as the new line indicator is to use a special translation table (Translate x'15' to x'25'). In the z/OS case I updated the

Re: What Replaced the DATE command?

2012-02-06 Thread Karl Severson
Yep, after further snooping around the old system I found a DATE module and a help file describing the function written by some folks who worked here years ago. Hopefully I can get this exec to work if I have that module on the new system. Thanks! Karl Severson Raytheon Company

Re: gcc on z/OS (was: CPP (C++) file on z/OS)

2012-02-06 Thread Steve Comstock
On 2/6/2012 10:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 12:31:31 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: On 4 February 2012 12:03, Paul Gilmartin wrote: That idea founders on the economics of support. ... I suspect a single service call to IBM costs, in the aggregate, more than an entire desktop

Re: What Replaced the DATE command?

2012-02-06 Thread Karl Severson
Thanks Mark. I will give this a try if the DATE module I found on the old system doesn't work on the new one. Karl Severson Raytheon Company -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread McKown, John
I will agree with you from the Developer's viewpoint. If for no other reason than it gives an explanation which is generally acceptable: We use the IBM supplied regexp engine. If you need changes, IBM is the proper venue for discussion. Maintaining the regexp code itself is just not cost

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:46:58 +, Ken MacKenzie ken.macken...@pramerica.ie wrote: Yeah, that worked but in reality, the from string will be supplied by the user and the to string will be computer generated so there's no predicting what they typed. There's no predicting what they typed? What

Re: gcc on z/OS (was: CPP (C++) file on z/OS)

2012-02-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 10:57:40 -0700, Steve Comstock wrote: On 2/6/2012 10:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 12:31:31 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: On 4 February 2012 12:03, Paul Gilmartin wrote: That idea founders on the economics of support. ... I suspect a single service call to

Re: Sending LF files to z/OS

2012-02-06 Thread McKown, John
I think you want: QUOTE SITE SBDATACON=AMQP.TCPSCBIN -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice:

Re: gcc on z/OS (was: CPP (C++) file on z/OS)

2012-02-06 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: On 2/6/2012 10:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 12:31:31 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: On 4 February 2012 12:03, Paul Gilmartin wrote: That idea founders on the economics of support. ...  I suspect

Re: Very Large Page Datasets (was ASM and HiperPAV)

2012-02-06 Thread Don Deese
Hi Martin, Thanks for paging me. It is good to hear from you, and I hope that all is well! CPExpert has 16 checks (I call them rules) related to potential performance problems with the paging subsystem. Included are checks whether allocation percent exceeded guidance, checks for whether

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread McKown, John
I think that I may have misunderstood what the OP wanted. The awk script you give and the perl one that I gave give different output on the first line of my modified file. It is the way I was envisioning what the OP wanted was: Find the first instance of CD in the given string. Find all other

Re: Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-06 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Peter, We use CA-PanValet.  It offers check out, check in version control, backup process that includes version control, utilties that produce the what is called by what reports and the what is included in what reports.  We use separate Pan libraries for source and for production

Re: gcc on z/OS (was: CPP (C++) file on z/OS)

2012-02-06 Thread Greg Shirey
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:41 AM No; my point is that most personal Windows customers can endure the entire life of the product without making such a call; most z/OS customers can't. Most Windows customers can endure booting

Re: How to reformat JFCB creation date in SMF to 'yyyy/mm/dd' format by DFSORT

2012-02-06 Thread Frank Yaeger
Minoru Massaki at IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 02/05/2012 10:11:51 PM: I did a test with following DFSORT control statements on z/OS V1.12. It worked fine. Assume that input JFCB creation date field is at location 149 in SMF type 15 and output field is at

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0078805690815046.wa.yak36790yahoo@bama.ua.edu, on 02/06/2012 at 11:25 AM, Bill Godfrey yak36...@yahoo.com said: Did you try it? Trying it on a string that you know it handles isn't good enough; try it on a string where a Q appears between the CD and the QR. Where a Q appears with some

Re: Sending LF files to z/OS

2012-02-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6150922890094890.wa.dlikensinfosecinc@bama.ua.edu, on 02/06/2012 at 11:54 AM, Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com said: I have not made it work yet but I am convinced that the best way to handle sending files that use LF (unix) new line indicator to a system that understands CRLF as

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0584589877710221.wa.yak36790yahoo@bama.ua.edu, on 02/06/2012 at 10:19 AM, Bill Godfrey yak36...@yahoo.com said: try this: awk 'sub(/CD[^Q]*QR/,junkt)' or this: sed -e 's/CD[^Q]*QR/junkt/' ABCDEFGNOPQQRXXXABCDEFGNOPQRYYYABCDEFGNOPQRZZZ

Re: Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks Linda. Unfortunately that would involve loading all of our source and JCL, etc. libraries over to Panvalet libraries. Currently we're just looking for something to read what we have and inventory it separately, without any conversions. Unless the Panvalet product has been enhanced

Re: Regular Expressions (OMVS)

2012-02-06 Thread Bill Godfrey
Thanks to you and Shmuel for pointing out the flaw in my logic. Bill On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 12:41:24 -0600, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I think that I may have misunderstood what the OP wanted. The awk script you give and the perl one that I gave give different output on

Re: Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-06 Thread McKown, John
JCLScan? http://www.asg.com/Products/View/ASG-JOB-SCAN-.aspx Info/X? http://www.asg.com/Products/View/ASG-INFO-X--Enterprise.aspx quote ASG-INFO/X Enterprise provides a centralized asset management solution for multiple LPAR data centers. (Data sources include JCL, DB2, IMS, and mainframe

Re: Global Mirror question.

2012-02-06 Thread Neal Eckhardt
I got it figured out. Scratch the question. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

SMS/ISMF Pool Storage Group Screen(s)

2012-02-06 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
Can someone please clarify something for me. Apparently, there were some parameters that were introduced to SMS/ISMF and these parameters were not present in the 1.9 release but are there now in the 1.11 release. In particular I am talking about the Pool Storage Group Define or Alter

Re: SMS/ISMF Pool Storage Group Screen(s)

2012-02-06 Thread Hervey Martinez
The SMS pool thresholds have been there for many years--I'm willing to bet that they were there even before zos came into the picture. Thanks, Hervey -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gilbert Cardenas Sent: Monday,

Re: Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-06 Thread Mitch
Regarding John's email below, JCLScan (actually, Job/Scan) is a JCL scanner that makes it possible to check for the most basic JCL errors. Info/X is a tool ASG acquired, as is Job/Scan, from another vendor (and from what I understand, is no longer supported by the original developer). It

Re: SMS/ISMF Pool Storage Group Screen(s)

2012-02-06 Thread Mark Jacobs
Way before zOS. SMS was delivered in the ESA V4 time frame. Mark Jacobs On 02/06/12 15:16, Hervey Martinez wrote: The SMS pool thresholds have been there for many years--I'm willing to bet that they were there even before zos came into the picture. Thanks, Hervey -Original

ADDRESS IDCAMS?

2012-02-06 Thread McKown, John
I guess there's not __really__ any __need__ for this. But it's been perculating in my back brain for a while. To create an ADDRESS IDCAMS environment for REXX. I know we can do IDCAMS commands in REXX by doing an ADDRESS TSO and using the TSO commands. That works well. But it occurs to me,

Re: What Replaced the DATE command?

2012-02-06 Thread Karl Severson
The DATE module from the VM/ESA 2.3 system worked on the zVM 6.1 system. Thanks for the ideas! Karl Severson Raytheon Company -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: ADDRESS IDCAMS?

2012-02-06 Thread Scott Ford
John, A rexx function package could be written. What environments ? Maybe I will attempt this, i need one too. Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Feb 6, 2012, at 3:34 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I guess there's not

Re: gcc on z/OS (was: CPP (C++) file on z/OS)

2012-02-06 Thread Scott Ford
Tony, It ain't cheap Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Feb 6, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: On 4 February 2012 12:03, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 00:53:47 +0100, Tomasz Rola wrote: I

Re: Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks John. The first one not so much, but the second one looks interesting, though it also looks like a bit more than we were looking to accomplish. I appreciate the suggestions. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf

Re: gcc on z/OS (was: CPP (C++) file on z/OS)

2012-02-06 Thread Scott Ford
That's your opinion, nowadays, yes, ten or more years ago, no Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Feb 6, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 12:31:31 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: On 4 February 2012

Re: gcc on z/OS (was: CPP (C++) file on z/OS)

2012-02-06 Thread Scott Ford
Yep, that I agree with, I am an old dinosaur, but fine the experience we all have is pretty much contained to us older creatures, kids don't want to know Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com

Re: Size of a PDSE member?

2012-02-06 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2012-02-06 18:33, Paul Gilmartin pisze: (Motivated by a thread on TSO-REXX) Surely PDSE keeps metadata on the storage, whether records or pages, used by each member. It needs the information to reclaim space when a member is deleted. Is there a way to extract the size of a member from

DFRMM change Storage Group field on Dataset record

2012-02-06 Thread af dc
Hello, can anyone tell me how can I change the storage group value on dataset record ?? When I do DATASET CHANGE using DFRMM ispf panels and provide dsn + volume the only DFSMS construct I can't change is Storage group, how do I change it ?? z/OS DFSMS V1 R12 Any hint is apreciated. Many thx,

Re: Mainframe Testing

2012-02-06 Thread Cris Hernandez #9
well, whatever runs in production, you're going to need a copy of it in testing.  usually means a lot of batch and then testing the onlines/applications' user access.  I found it always helped to keep a testbed of data for batch/db's, then write an automated batch job scheduler that edits all

Re: SMS/ISMF Pool Storage Group Screen(s)

2012-02-06 Thread Mike Schwab
On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Gilbert Cardenas gilbertcarde...@grocerybiz.com wrote: deleted We have been on z/os 1.11 since around Aug/Sept of last year and we were cruising along just fine until recently.  All of a sudden we have a pool filling up and not migrating datasets like they used

Re: SMS/ISMF Pool Storage Group Screen(s)

2012-02-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 15:24:44 -0500, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com wrote: Way before zOS. SMS was delivered in the ESA V4 time frame. Mark Jacobs MVS/ESA V3. But you could also order / install it with MVS/XA 2.2.3. IIRC, that was really the only difference between MVS/XA 2.2.0 and

Re: Mainframe Testing

2012-02-06 Thread Mitch
Folks: What you want is an automated tool that can modify the batch executables on the fly for each environment. If you have a change control tool like ISPW, SYSChange, Endevor or ChangeMan, it is pretty straightforward to set up rules through an automated JCL management tool such as J-Man

Re: ADDRESS IDCAMS?

2012-02-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 14:34:15 -0600, McKown, John wrote: The thought of trying to duplicate this feat is scary to me. But, being the weirdo that I am, it occurs to me that I can write an IDCAMS front end program __in UNIX__ which is marked as APF authorized. There would be something like

Re: gcc on z/OS (was: CPP (C++) file on z/OS)

2012-02-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 16:25:09 -0500, Scott Ford wrote: That's your opinion, nowadays, yes, ten or more years ago, no On Feb 6, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: No; my point is that most personal Windows customers can endure the entire life of the product without making such a call;

Re: Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am being asked if there are relatively simple source-and-JCL inventory control products available for z/OS. I found one myself (XREF product at dcmsi.com), but management wants to know if any other software vendors provide such a product. We're not interested at the moment in full life

Re: gcc on z/OS (was: CPP (C++) file on z/OS)

2012-02-06 Thread Scott Ford
Gil, No worries, My fault, guess I am old school. I make calls no matter what the posts, I am just that kinda of guy who wants to know how things work. Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Feb 6, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com

Re: Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks Lizette, someone did already mention that to me. I will add it to the mix of products we look at. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:59 PM To:

Re: DFRMM change Storage Group field on Dataset record

2012-02-06 Thread Hervey Martinez
The storage group is assigned by your SMS storage routines and it will be the one used for Storage Group. The Storage Group cannot be altered, it has to be assigned. Your Storage Admin person should know where these are how to update them. Thanks, Hervey -Original Message- From:

Re: DFRMM change Storage Group field on Dataset record

2012-02-06 Thread retired mainframer
You don't. Storage groups are assigned by the ACS routines if the dataset is assigned a storage class. Does it have meaning if the dataset is not disk resident? :: -Original Message- :: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On :: Behalf Of af dc :: Sent:

Re: Simple iinventory control products?

2012-02-06 Thread Timothy Sipples
Rational Asset Analyzer for z/OS is quite excellent: http://www.ibm.com/software/rational/products/raa/systemz/ I think you were asking about more than just JCL inspection. RAA does that but also much more. There's a trial of RAA available so you can take it for a spin. Just click on the Trial

Re: Sending LF files to z/OS

2012-02-06 Thread Alan Altmark
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:54:23 -0600, Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com wrote: I have not made it work yet but I am convinced that the best way to handle sending files that use LF (unix) new line indicator to a system that understands CRLF as the new line indicator is to use a special

Re: gcc on z/OS (was: CPP (C++) file on z/OS)

2012-02-06 Thread Timothy Sipples
Paul Gilmartin writes: Exactly; I mean per installation. The putative personal z/OS makes each customer a systems programmer. You can run a Linux/OS X/Windows system without a systems programmer; not likely z/OS. (But note that when IBM makes steps in that direction, many contributors to this