Re: Crazy(?) thought - run z/Linux binaries on z/OS UNIX.

2008-11-11 Thread P S
It's not crazy, it's just that it would be a TON of work, with unproven requirement/return, and where most folks would say Run in an IFL. Where the data is doesn't really do much for me -- an IFL in the same box over HiperSockets isn't very far away, and offers all the usual benefits of z. On

Re: The Register article on HP replacing z

2008-11-13 Thread P S
to lower the overall price. On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:12 AM, Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:28:59 -0500, P S wrote: ... specialty engines help keep the cost of z/OS and friends high... They do? Not that I can tell

Re: The Register article on HP replacing z

2008-11-13 Thread P S
You say that like it's a negative thing. Seriously, what's your point? Do you really think a Cadillac costs 2x as much to build as a Chevy? Do you really think a large Coke at McDonald's costs them a fraction of what they charge? Do you really think that the manufacturing cost of the latest x86

Re: good practise to run linux on mainframe

2008-11-13 Thread P S
BTW: Does anyone use VM and no other OS under it ? I'm aware of single installation in Poland (they gone AFAIK). Nobody does that -- they at least run CMS, and VM itself when testing. But that probably isn't what you meant -- sure, there are still CMS-only shops, though many of them are at

Re: The Register article on HP replacing z

2008-11-25 Thread P S
If they start talking layoffs, suggest an 18-month schedule... On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Ken Gunther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rex, Sadly our goal of getting off the mainframe still persists. We are in YEAR 15 of an 18 MONTH project to accomplish this goal ;-}.

Re: another one biting the dust?

2008-12-06 Thread P S
No. iSeries, pSeries, xSeries, zSeries begat System i, System p, System x, System z. Now that they've converged the i and p hardware, IBM is playing games with i -- it's now just i, no System or Series (stupid -- unsearchable!). There was no tSeries; there are ThinkPads in various lines,

Re: OCO, documentation, support from IBM-Main, etc. (was Re: Health Checker questions)

2008-12-17 Thread P S
Both are often necessary -- the PLM tells you what the author MEANT to happen. ObAnecdote: I supported a set of products that I knew nothing about, had no PLM, no original author to consult. I wound up calling my favorite customer about once a month to ask what he thought it SHOULD be doing in a

Re: ISPF and long lines (was: CLIST/REXX Philosophy)

2008-12-17 Thread P S
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: Why, why doesn't ISPF edit, as an option, provide the facility to display long lines as single fields occupying multiple screen lines, as XEDIT does. 1. ISPF EDIT appears to be 'stabilised'. 2. Open a requirement. 3.

Re: ISPF and long lines (was: CLIST/REXX Philosophy)

2008-12-17 Thread P S
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: 4. Use z/VM. :-) In an all z/OS shop? This: :-) is called an emoticon or a smiley. That one indicates that I was kidding. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: A Techie Goes to SHARE

2008-12-17 Thread P S
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Warner Mach ma...@resa.net wrote: I happened to read IBM-Main when there was mention that, at the next SHARE, Sam Knutson would be doing his Fully Wired Topics presentation; and also that there would be sessions on the PDS and Review commands. So I will

Re: State of Nevada Employment Opportunity

2008-12-19 Thread P S
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:38 AM, Sam Golob sbgo...@cbttape.org wrote: Hi Folks, I worked with Eileen Barkow at NYC DOITT (Data Center). Everything she says is absolutely true. You can't believe it when you're hired there. Every piece of bureaucracy appears so ridiculous, and that's the

Re: 3270 screen size with Attachmate Extra!

2008-12-19 Thread P S
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Bill George william.geo...@ftb.ca.gov wrote: Does anyone know if it is possible with Attachmate's Extra! (I have version 6.71) to modify the screen size to something other than the standard models (2,3,4,5)? I was able to do this with PComm and Vista and change

Re: another one biting the dust?

2008-12-21 Thread P S
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: x == I have no idea. They started as Blade Servers. There is also the 't' -- thinkpads (now Lenovo). I know because I had a T60 a T90 before they sold off the division. No, as noted previously, x did not start as blades

Re: Security Breach on System z HMC?

2008-12-21 Thread P S
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:11 AM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: snip Forcing an operator to type in his/her password over and over is as annoying as it is wrong-headed. Passwords are intended to stay secure and every password prompt is a potential, but usually necessary,

Re: A Smile for the Week

2009-01-03 Thread P S
On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com wrote: I hope that when people say Real Programmers don't comment code that they are being humorous, or just kidding around. Assemble code for someone like myself who has done a lot of coding, but done it a long time ago, is

Re: A Smile for the Week

2009-01-04 Thread P S
Argh, key typo: ...they're NOW out of business...! On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 12:10 AM, P S zosw...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com wrote: I hope that when people say Real Programmers don't comment code that they are being humorous, or just

Survey says...

2009-01-06 Thread P S
I'm trying to judge the level of penetration of the (relatively) new DLL technology. So without getting into theology or categorical imperatives, I'd be grateful if y'all could answer this question: If you were told that to use a feature of a vendor product on z/OS, you need to put some code in a

Re: SHARE v zExpo

2009-01-06 Thread P S
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Jeffrey Deaver jeffrey.dea...@securian.com wrote: Anybody know where I can find a list of the sessions held at the 2008 System z Expo? All the old links seem to point to the generic 2009 page now. I'm trying to decide if my new Sys. Prog should head to SHARE

Re: z/Linux, Was SAS, now Oracle

2009-02-06 Thread P S
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: I may be wrong, but I thought Oracle was still a per processor license, even under z/Linux. A dozen Oracles on a zprocessor is cheaper than the same on dedicated Intel boxen. Yes, you are correct. But, aside from being

Re: z/Linux, Was SAS, now Oracle

2009-02-07 Thread P S
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: You're assuming that you can only run ONE copy of Linux on a CPU. I'm making no such assumption. Pardon me. Implying. See below. snip While this is all very interesting, it doesn't answer my original query. Somebody stated

Re: z/Linux, Was SAS, now Oracle (why?)

2009-02-07 Thread P S
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:33 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: I understand pricing (dis)advantages, which causes that it is cheaper to use SAS on Intel than on z/OS, or run several Linux+Oracle images on IFL than on several Intel machines. However I'm curious - WHY ??? Why does

Re: z/Linux, Was SAS, now Oracle (why?)

2009-02-07 Thread P S
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: I've heard (anecdotally) that Oracle is abandoning z/OS because the z/OS customers have abandoned Oracle. That statement is both true and false. 1. ORACLE is abandoning z/OS. 9 was the last (and 32-bit) release. If you

Re: z/Linux, Was SAS, now Oracle (why?)

2009-02-09 Thread P S
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com wrote: I think there may be some over-analysis here. In theory at least, any vendor introducing their software product to a new (for them) platform can price it however they want. SNIP Of course. What I've seen is

USS and C

2009-02-23 Thread P S
Do folks care about USS? That is, do most z/OS shops actually use USS for anything beyond the things they're forced to (TCP/IP stuff, for example)? My experience suggests that the general answer is No (with exceptions, of course). The related question is: Do folks use C on z/OS much? And the

What do you call...

2009-02-24 Thread P S
...your: network folks security folks sysprogs applications programmers ? No, I don't mean those buttheads from downstairs, I mean what titles do they typically have? We're discussing this internally and realized we don't really know -- Engineer gets used a lot these days, except in countries

Re: What do you call...

2009-02-24 Thread P S
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: snip Or, followed by: I II III I've Thanks! Just curious -- was the I've spellcheck/autocorrect to the (un)rescue? Or automatic fingers? (There are words I can't type reliably because they're too close to other words;

z/OS contract work

2008-07-10 Thread P S
We are for someone to do some porting work to z/OS on a contract basis: porting C code, packaging (not SMP/E), RACF, ICSF integration. This is a several-month gig with possibly more work to follow, and would be telecommuting. If you think you might be this person, please send a résumé to this

Re: Emergency

2008-07-26 Thread P S
What version of z/VM are you running? 2008/7/26 Tsai Laurence [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am in hurry writing you this short message, i traveled to Nigeria and i got my self stranded.I am really stranded in Nigeria because I forgot my little bag in the Taxi where my money, passport, documents and

Re: OT Comcast Internet Service Limitations

2008-08-29 Thread P S
This is indeed OT, not that that stops anyone on this group :-) . The real killer here is that Comcrap doesn't provide any way to measure your usage -- so now we'll have Yet Another category of software we have to buy for a stupid reason (to go with antivirus and antispam): bandwidth measurement.

Re: OT: Stretch article

2008-09-17 Thread P S
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:30 AM, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the article on Stretch: [Stretch] ... could perform 100 billion computations a day and handle half a million instructions per second. There are 86400 seconds in one day. Half a million instructions

Re: REXX EXEC

2008-09-24 Thread P S
This is simpler? Three lines to replace one? I'd hate to see your definition of cheaper ... :-) On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Lindy Mayfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but there is always a simpler solution: /* Rexx */ year=2010 y=year//100 c=(year-year//100)/100 mons = 'Sat Sun Mon

Re: Senior project title about MF

2008-09-24 Thread P S
Do a *complete* port of cURL, including libcurl! On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/24/2008 at 12:09 AM, Ahmet Alper TEC MER [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there anybody who can advise to me a project title? What are

Re: Article on z/OS on Intel, sort of.

2008-09-25 Thread P S
Psystar is the current Mac clone vendor. Apple wants them dead. On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:39 AM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember Mac clones. Hardware manufactured by some Taiwan company with (legal) MacOS. It was approx. 14 years ago, possibly before MacOSX premiere, surely on

Re: REXX question

2008-10-03 Thread P S
This would work: == do until answer = N' say 'Do you want to exit? (s/n)' pull answer if answer = 'S' then exit end == It could be made a lot more elegant, of course. On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Claudio Marcio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, How make to receive

Re: REXX question

2008-10-04 Thread P S
Why are folks giving him the same answer over and over again? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: IBM 3179

2008-10-07 Thread P S
OK, that wasn't entirely coherent. I meant, There are companies who buy them to resell, and every now and then, someone NEEDS one. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:32 AM, P S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are folks who buy them. And every now and then, someone wants to buy one. So it's A Good Thing

Re: REXX error

2008-10-07 Thread P S
Or just replace the first line of the program with /**/ and you'll know it's good (less scientific, but easier!). On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:59 AM, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under ISPF, edit your REXX using ISPF Picture Strings. Issue the command on the command line:F P'.'

Re: IBM 3179

2008-10-07 Thread P S
There are folks who buy them. And every now and then, someone wants to buy one. So it's A Good Thing if you can find someone to take 'em, even for pennies. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On

Re: REXX error

2008-10-07 Thread P S
Ummm. If the program was loaded from SYSPROC, this will cause it to be treated as a CLIST rather than an EXEC, and the OP is not likely to know it's good. Ah. That would be a TSO requirement -- that the first line have REXX in it? If so, then my apologies. I use Rexx on other platforms.

Re: REXX error

2008-10-08 Thread P S
Well, technically he's OK with the lack of continuation, but it's poor style. That shouldn't be causing the message. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:20 AM, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need a single quote at the end of line 100 and a comma after that to continue the SAY to a second line -

Re: question on REXX stem

2009-03-14 Thread P S
This kind of feels like you really want to use a multi-level tail: temp.1.x Then drop temp. clears the whole set. I realize that might *not* be what you want/need, but if you haven't considered it, you might. Be aware that a stem is defined as the part before the FIRST period: i.e., if you do:

Basic capacity question

2009-03-17 Thread P S
I understand SCRT (at least, in theory). But how do I find out the full theoretical MSU capacity of an LPAR? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message:

Re: Multi-dimensional arrays in REXX

2009-03-19 Thread P S
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Patrick O'Keefe patrick.oke...@wamu.net wrote: I agree, but I think the astonishment is aimed at the drop rather than the stem assignment.  (At least MY astonishment is.)   That behavior implies that the interpreter has to maintain both a list of specifically

Re: Old discussion about Windows running on a mainframe ( I brought up)

2009-03-24 Thread P S
IANALE, so wild speculation alert: Emulation *might* be different--PSI kept saying they didn't do emulation, although it quacked like a duck. The AMD licensing might be slightly different, since their architecture is slightly different. But it's a great question! I'd love to know the answer.

Cost of RACF vs. small file I/O

2009-03-25 Thread P S
Ignoring for the moment the very tangible benefits RACF bestows beyond just the obvious, do y'all think it's more expensive (FSVO expensive) to: - read a 1-block QSAM file - make a RACF request ? This will settle an argument (maybe!) about whether it's worth stuffing something in RACF just

Re: Cost of RACF vs. small file I/O

2009-03-25 Thread P S
Well, I'm showing my RACF ignorance in a big way, obviously! That doesn't bother me, I can take it. The issue is code that currently generates some data objects (they're all small) and caches them in HFS. Someone said, They should be in RACF. So a corollary question is, Does RACF allow definition

Re: Cost of RACF vs. small file I/O

2009-03-26 Thread P S
Sure, I've been being unnecessarily cagey -- trying to keep the scenario simple, and overdoing it! Sorry 'bout that. I think it really is an access control issue: we have symmetric encryption keys that are managed by a process, but in the non-mainframe world, you ask the key server whether you're

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-03 Thread P S
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Timothy Sipples e99...@jp.ibm.com wrote: snip So this is a marketplace contest of sorts to see who's got the most efficiency (on a quality-adjusted basis) in their IT service delivery. There are so many very savvy IT organizations betting heavily that the modern

Re: Rexx

2009-04-03 Thread P S
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:02 PM, gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com wrote: I need to learn REXX and fast.  Does anyone know a good REXX for dummies book? The Rexx Language by Michael Cowlishaw. The IBM Rexx User's Guides are good, too -- the one I remember (from 25 years ago, but why would it have been

Re: Rexx

2009-04-04 Thread P S
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Scott T. Harder scott.har...@embarqmail.com wrote: You are the man, and I mean that sincerely (your questions and comments at the TDM's are legendary as far as I'm concerned), but isn't the parsing in REXX better than Clist?  I have no knowledge of IKJPARS and

Re: Rexx

2009-04-05 Thread P S
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: snip The approach I took, which I still regard as an excellent one from an upward compatibility and interoperability standpoint, was to replace the CLISTs one-by-one with REXX counterparts over several releases.

Re: Rexx

2009-04-07 Thread P S
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Does this imply that the specifications of interpreted Rexx and compiled Rexx are apt to diverge?  Ugh! (Or is the syntax governed by a shared code base?) I'd be astonished if they diverged. There's a shared codebase

Re: Virtual Machine Display Manager for CMS?

2009-04-11 Thread P S
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Todd Burch pro...@burchwoodusa.com wrote: I was reviewing the CMS Application Programming Guide and came across a reference to this Full Screen layout facility. It referred to this VM CMS V2 publication.  I looked it up on the IBM pub ordering site, and it

Re: The speed of the 64 bit code

2009-04-15 Thread P S
Que'est-que c'est HIS? Horrible name to Google for, of course. I'm guessing it's a HIStogram generator of some sort? On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: Miklos Szigetvari wrote: We have converted our complex C++ document generation application to

Re: Data masking/data disguise Primer 1) WHY

2009-04-21 Thread P S
Robert Galambos wrote: It isn't Hyperbole. According to studies, which I mention at least one, the average cost is about $197 USD and that was in 2007. If you consider ALL cost (which can include lost of sales, legal costs, cost to 'maintain the customer base', cost for credit

Re: What (More) Open Source Software for z/OS?

2009-04-22 Thread P S
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:26 AM, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote: Couldn't agree more.  Forget about open source and give us back the FLEX-ES offering. You do realize FLEX-ES wasn't an IBM offering, right? -- For

Re: Data masking/data disguise Primer 1) WHY

2009-04-22 Thread P S
Yeah, the $200/card probably reflects the fact that if a stolen card gets used, it likely get used for several under-$500 purchases (I believe that's the current level to increase the card provider's interest in verification). So if a stolen card that gets used costs $2,000 on average, that means

Re: CP commands from z/os

2009-04-24 Thread P S
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Paul Schuster pgs4ibmm...@pacbell.net wrote: From, for example, a batch job running on a z/os system which in turn is a VM guest, can this batch job issue CP commands?  I was looking at DIAG 8 but it sort of implies that this works for the VM id which is the VM

Re: How to display Stars for Password in ISPF

2009-05-08 Thread P S
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: I kinda thought that might be the answer.  Maybe I will put in a Share Request for ISPF to do this. Waste of time -- it's a hardware limitation and I don't think there's a whole lot of 3270 hardware enhancements

Re: Share Website Hacked

2009-05-18 Thread P S
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Gilbert Saint-Flour usenet5...@yahoo.com wrote: Most of the things I see on http://www.share.org/ have a .aspx suffix, which, if I'm not mistaken, tells us they use a Microsoft Web server. Perhaps they should use something that's less likely to be broken into ?

Re: HTTP servers on z/OS

2009-05-18 Thread P S
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: I'd like to compile a list of available HTTP servers for z/OS. I'm aware of these: * the free HPPT server V5R3 that comes with z/OS  based on the old CERN technology (but still a  viable server) * the version

Re: IBM Optim question...

2009-05-22 Thread P S
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Bob Rutledge deerh...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Ummm, guys, I kind of guessed that obfuscation was the general intent of the exercise.  The ignorance part was about the mechanics involved; e.g. if the OP is talking about masking a database record for each of those

Re: TCB time question

2009-05-27 Thread P S
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com wrote: The following is typical output found in the SYSMSG produced by a batch job on our z/OS 1.9 system:  -STEPNAME PROCSTEP    RC   EXCP   CONN    TCB    SRB  CLOCK   SERV  -NNN1SW               00   2326   1195 200.44    .00  

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread P S
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:53 PM, William Donzelli wdonze...@gmail.com wrote: I can think of only one tiny shop in Ohio that still uses punch cards, although very rarely (once a month?). Any others? My dad used punch cards until he died in 2006. Of course, he carried them in his shirt pocket as

Re: TCB time question

2009-05-28 Thread P S
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote: I am told that APAR OA20761 fixed the IEFACTRT sample exit (named IEEACTRT), among other things.  This fix is in the GA version of z/OS 1.9 and does not need to be installed. You could not order the GA z/OS 1.9 without that

Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products

2009-06-02 Thread P S
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, where does IND$FILE get or put files that are being transferred.  I don't remember ever having any kind of file system on a 3270. It transfers them fine, just doesn't store the result.

Re: SEs History Lessons (was: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?)

2009-06-07 Thread P S
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Arthur Gutowskiaguto...@ford.com wrote: On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:43:38 -0400, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com wrote: -- 40+yrs virtualization exerience (since Jan68), online at home since Mar1970 Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. (Or

Re: DNS

2009-06-18 Thread P S
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Ron Wells rwe...@agfinance.com wrote: thanks looks like your right lan people has not updated the server with all the names yet.. That's vaguely scary -- you have two separate DNS that don't talk to each other? One should (FSVO should) be a secondary,

Re: How big of a staff do you have on your mainframe?

2009-06-23 Thread P S
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Bill Washburn bwashb...@winwholesale.comwrote: This might seem like an odd request- But, as part of the platform analysis we're undertaking, I'd like to gauge how our staff size compares with other companies' resource allocation to their mainframe. If

Re: SHARE Requirements and IBM

2009-06-24 Thread P S
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.comwrote: And, sometimes they're rejected even *after* they're implemented! :-D http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0407L=ibm-main-archivesP=R2529I=1X=- And I remember a VM session at SHARE where a requirement went from

Re: Messages as Programming Interfaces

2009-07-06 Thread P S
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.comwrote: While not a 'programming interface' as such, message text figures prominently in all automation products I know of, including IBM's. Great pains are taken to inform customers of text changes via 'AO' System Hold

Re: Preview: z/VM V6.1; IBM Declares New Architecture Level Set (ALS)

2009-07-09 Thread P S
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.comwrote: snip As I recall, z/VM Version 5 was the first major software product that required ARCHLVL 2 (z/Architecture). z/VM Version 4. z/VM 3.1 was the last that would run on pre-z machines. IIRC, z/VM V5 got a new

Re: Preview: z/VM V6.1; IBM Declares New Architecture Level Set (ALS)

2009-07-10 Thread P S
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.comwrote: Now that makes absolutely no sense. I'd be willing to bet that others have had the opposite happen. Sure it does. If the existing box is old enough, IBM really does NOT want to maintain it: they'd rather upgrade you

Re: Find the computer error

2009-07-16 Thread P S
And of course: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion_%28word%29 explains it properly. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Re: Find the computer error

2009-07-16 Thread P S
Ah...it looks like what happens if you interpret 8 ASCII space characters as an integer: x'2020202020202020' = 2314885530818453536 The bogus value is allegedly 23148855308184500, but I'd be willing to believe that someone dropped the $35.36 on the end! Either that or the value was ALMOST blank

Re: Offload work to zIIP with zPRIME

2009-07-17 Thread P S
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Denis Gäbler denisgaeb...@netscape.netwrote: Taking the electric meter example. What if I install solar electicity panels? Am I stealing ressources and bypass the power companies meter? Am I not allowed to use the electricity that the panels produce, just

Mainframe hacking

2009-07-19 Thread P S
Does anyone here recall any published news articles or incidents involving mainframe hacking (any flavor of VM, VSE or MVS)?  Do you personally know of any incidents? Or have any such been kept on the QT? -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Mainframe hacking

2009-07-19 Thread P S
You don't say? :-) On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 5:51 PM, John P. Bakerjbaker...@comporium.net wrote: John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of P S Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 5:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject

Re: Mainframe hacking

2009-07-19 Thread P S
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Gainsford, Allenallen.gainsf...@eds.com wrote: Anyone who's read The Adolescence of P-1 by Thomas Ryan will know exactly how to do it.  :) Ouch. Besides the technical inaccuracies, that book was irritating because for no apparent reason it misplaced University

Re: Bulletproof (was Re: Mainframe hacking (getting back on topic))

2009-07-22 Thread P S
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Hal Merritthmerr...@jackhenry.com wrote: Well, does a hurricane count? Generally, the category of a hurricane just about matches the F number for a tornado (a category three hurricane is about the same wind speed and destructive force as a F-3 tornado). In

Re: CA Mainframe 2.0

2009-07-23 Thread P S
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Jerry Whitteridgejerry.whitteri...@safeway.com wrote: Agreed -- we are allowed no unsecured file transfer to the mainframe due to PCI. Our preference is FTPS but we could (for certain kludges) work with SFTP.  All vendors need to be reconsidering their

Re: Find the computer error

2009-07-23 Thread P S
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Kirk Talmanrkueb...@tsys.com wrote: Visa does have cards beginning w/2.  Don't know what they are yet. See http://www.merriampark.com/anatomycc.htm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10

2009-07-23 Thread P S
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Shaneibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: This just has to get uglier. Seems every vendor (IBM included) has been been announcing (to great fanfare) new exploitation of specialty engines. Presumably with IBMs imprimatur. So the initial concept has become quite a bit

Re: Neon's zPrime - IBM response from July 10

2009-07-23 Thread P S
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Edward Jaffeedja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: That might be their objective. If so, it's a failed strategy. IBM knows that many ISVs figured out long ago how to enable 3rd-party code to run on zAAP/zIIP. (A fun exercise.) If IBM bought NEON (or zPrime) to

IMS and POSIX(ON)

2009-07-24 Thread P S
In reading various LE and IMS documentation, I've come to the [conc][de]lusion that invoking a set of C functions that require POSIX(ON) won't be that hard under IMS (as opposed to, say, CICS, where it basically doesn't work without a lot of undocumented environmental setup). Anyone done this?

Re: Fw: IMS and POSIX(ON)

2009-07-25 Thread P S
. probably prevails. P S zosw...@gmail.com wrote in message news:67954f200907240856p5abee351ub4149455c4545...@mail.gmail.com... In reading various LE and IMS documentation, I've come to the [conc][de]lusion that invoking a set of C functions that require POSIX(ON) won't be that hard under IMS

Re: z/OS support of HMC's 3270 emulation?

2009-07-31 Thread P S
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:28 AM, Scott Rowescott.r...@joann.com wrote: You certainly can specify both a port number and a resource name for the x3270 sessions.  IIRC, the implementation is a little strange, but it can be done, I have done it. Anyone ever wonder what kind of drugs the HMC

Re: USS misuse

2009-07-31 Thread P S
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_sandwich And now back to your regularly scheduled ramblings... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET

Re: USS misuse

2009-08-02 Thread P S
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Patrick O'Keefepatrick.oke...@wamu.net wrote: No z/... abbreviation or phrase for anything Unixy except for zFS . Even z/Linux is omited. Official IBM policy is that it does not use terms that include others' trademarks. Thus the official name is Linux for System

Re: Hercules; more information requested.

2009-08-03 Thread P S
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bill Fairchildbi...@mainstar.com wrote: Not trying to be pendantic, but I think the word is pedant.  :-) True, but pe(n)dants are used to being hung... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: IBM to slash MF Prices?

2009-08-17 Thread P S
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Ed Gouldps2...@yahoo.com wrote: IBM wants to get more workloads running on more mainframes, and is willing to slash prices to do so - but shops will have to put new workloads designated by IBM as solution editions to get cheaper iron.

Re: IBM to slash MF Prices?

2009-08-17 Thread P S
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Edward Jaffeedja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: P S wrote: Interesting. I wonder what this was SUPPOSED to say: The Solution Edition pricing is not just available to customers who buy new System z10 Business Class (BC) or Enterprise Class (EC) mainframes

Re: Check out The Associated Press: Prosecutors say man stole 130M credit card nu

2009-08-18 Thread P S
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Ed Finnellefinnel...@aol.com wrote: _The  Associated Press: Prosecutors say man stole 130M credit card numbers_ (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i8XW66VLO5uQTgUW-ha_8H6Qm BZAD9A596H85) This isn't a new breach, despite how the mainstream press

Re: IBM halves mainframe Linux engine prices

2009-08-18 Thread P S
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Mark Postmp...@novell.com wrote: That's what the article is implying, except the author doesn't seem to have a grasp of TCA, let alone TCO.  He seems to have some sort of issue with Linux for System z.  Not sure why. Right, things like this: Because IBM is

Re: The Death of Servers and Software

2009-08-18 Thread P S
Nicely put! On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Timothy Sipplese99...@jp.ibm.com wrote: Hewlett-Packard reported its 3Q earnings earlier today: snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: zAAP on zIIP

2009-08-20 Thread P S
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Edward Jaffeedja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: As I understand it, ONE useless IPL-time instruction program checks on an IFL (and possibly other specialty engines). This conveniently prevents z/OS from IPLing on a specialty engine. I know one ISV that wanted

Re: SV: CLIST/REXX Library Formats

2009-09-11 Thread P S
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote:  SNIP Somewhat OT:  I have the experience that VB files (lrecl1000 at least) have *much* worse prestanda than FB files in the ISPF editor. Anyone with the same or other experience ? prestanda is Swedish for

Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed

2009-09-11 Thread P S
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: And, airfare from Japan to the U.S. isn't free... ? Not trying to be confrontational, but what does that have to do with it? -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed

2009-09-11 Thread P S
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com wrote: I know this isn't actually a mainframe topic, but it is computer related and kind of funny.  I'm just glad I'm not a performance analyst for Telkom. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090910/od_nm/us_safrica_pigeon

Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed

2009-09-11 Thread P S
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: Cost/benefit analysis... Ah. Well, still cheaper than a 1Gbit/sec line for 24 hours... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

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