Re: Tape dataset not Visible
Lizette, I suspect he is trying to actually browse the tape dataset itself which cannot be done from ISPF... Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 7:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Tape dataset not Visible Hi, The tape dataset gets created when we go for a back up. We can view the same tape datasets in 3.4 when its gets created in BACK up(adrdssu) JCL. Here I tried browsing the tape dataset which was created during back but i am not able view it. Could anyone please suggest me your ideas or hint. Regards, Jags Jags, 1) Is the tape CATALOGED? If not, 3.4 will not see it 2) Do you use RMM or CA1 or Other tape management software 3) What version of z/OS are you running? 4) In 3.4 what options do you have selected on the panel? There are 4 or 5 of them 5) In 3.4 are you fully qualifying the datasets name or using wildcards? 6) Did you use 3.4 with the dataset name only or with dataset name and volser? Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Tape dataset not Visible
Unless the user has MOUNT privileges. Granted. Unlikely, but granted g Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Tape dataset not Visible On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:07:05 -0400 Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: :As a reminder, you cannot view/edit/browse data on TAPE in ISPF. You can :only dump tape into a physical DASD Dataset then view it. Unless the user has MOUNT privileges. : -Original Message- : From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On :Behalf Of : Lizette Koehler : Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 7:55 AM : To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu : Subject: Re: Tape dataset not Visible : : : Hi, : : The tape dataset gets created when we go for a back up. We can view : the : same tape : datasets in 3.4 when its gets created in BACK up(adrdssu) JCL. Here I : tried browsing : the tape dataset which was created during back but i am not able view :it. : Could anyone : please suggest me your ideas or hint. : : Regards, : Jags : : : : Jags, : : 1) Is the tape CATALOGED? If not, 3.4 will not see it : 2) Do you use RMM or CA1 or Other tape management software : 3) What version of z/OS are you running? : 4) In 3.4 what options do you have selected on the panel? There are 4 or :5 of them : 5) In 3.4 are you fully qualifying the datasets name or using wildcards? : 6) Did you use 3.4 with the dataset name only or with dataset name and :volser? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Status of my posts
Re:: posts : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegitimi_non_carborundum You have a way with mock latin John LOL -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 3:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Status of my posts Shai, do stay here. You are enthusiastic and usually interesting. And for number of posts, remember how many newbie questions that Jags has posted recently. As for the complainers (mainly one) about MFNetDisk posts : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegitimi_non_carborundum On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 20:36 -0700, shai hess wrote: Many people ask me to joint my users list. Some of them write to me that they do not have deep knowledge in the area I mention. Some said that they do not have the knowledge, but will test my product, other say that they will help me with documentation etc.. So, I felt bad about it. So, what I am going to do about it? I was blessed to receive many excellent people from Hercules and IBM-MAIN group who like to joint my group. I will use their knowledge for sure and I am very happy with it. But, in this email I want to ask the users who really do not like my posts to reconsider it for many other who like it and want to hear about my product and other computer issue. Everyday I think that more than 50% of my emails I delete it without open the emails. Many go directly to SPAM emails. Anyone can do it with my posts or emails. I am sure that it can be automatically. As I said before, the product is fun to me. I will not fight for it. I will not change my feeling because of it. If somebody like to fight this product I will give up writing to this forum. You must understand that MFNetDisk take small time compared to my reading of religious books. When I have bug, I fix 90% of the bugs in minutes and after some tests I continue to read my holy books. Reading these books is not MFNetDisk bugs or implementation, after fixing bug in MFNetDisk, I do not think about it anymore. After reading my books, and understand that really without God nothing was possible, I want to know more. I am just looking for tomorrow to open the books and study more about how controllable all of us by God, How blind I was before my father sickness, my eyes was opened, but my brain was closed. I was the same as the hero in the computer game who fight the evil with gun and think that he is the good hero and nobody controlled him. At the same time 9 years old boy press the bottom in his PC, and make the hero to move right and left and to shot and kill or be killed by the bad guys. The hero never stop to think if he is controlled by something. he just did not have time to do so. So, I can try to moderate my posting. I will keep my users list for only really deep technical issue, but the people who disturbed by my emails and posts must ignore it. If you can ignore it, I will continue to posts and I can promise not the same as before, because now I have my excellent users list which will give me feed backs and knowledge about my product an other subjects. So, to the people who were disturbed by my posts, please send me note, privately or public, if you really want me to stop for sure, or continue with my posts. Limited posts I must say not as before. Thanks, Shai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- John McKown Maranatha! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CAMLST MACRO question
Are there alternate methods to retaining authorization when running under the TMP other than using IKJEFTSR? I have some REXX functions written in assembler that call other functions requiring authorization and the only method I was aware of to retain my authorization was to use the TSR? My thanks ahead of time Regards, Stan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CAMLST MACRO question In listserv%201106200957514286.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 06/20/2011 at 09:57 AM, Walt Farrell wfarr...@us.ibm.com said: True, but not if it simply LINKs or ATTACHes IDCAMS (which might be the immediate choice of most programmers). It would have to use IKJEFTSR, There are other ways, but they all involve the TMP testing for authorization before running the request in a parallel task. Note that authorized call and authorized service are controlled by distinct lists. then it would only work if running under TSO (foreground or background). That's why I wrote If it's running under TSO. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CAMLST MACRO question
You are correct Walt. I should have said obtain, not retain. I start out authorized but lose it as soon as I call the REXX function. I require APF for a certain call while in the REXX function. It does sound like the TSR is required one way or the other (along with the AUTHTSF entry of course). Regards and thanks Stan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CAMLST MACRO question On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:58:21 -0400, Stan Weyman stan.wey...@emc.com wrote: Are there alternate methods to retaining authorization when running under the TMP other than using IKJEFTSR? I have some REXX functions written in assembler that call other functions requiring authorization and the only method I was aware of to retain my authorization was to use the TSR? My thanks ahead of time I think you meant obtain authorization not retain authorization, Stan. If you were already running authorized while in your REXX function there's nothing that would cause you to lose it, except trying to invoke something that was not in an authorized library. If you're not running authorized, and want to perform a function that requires authorization, then you can bury that function within an SVC or PC routine, or use IKJEFTSR to invoke it (if it's appropriately listed in the TSO/E parmlib member), or (if the function is written in REXX) you could simply use the TSO/E call command (not the REXX call statement) if the module is appropriately listed in the parmlib member. -- Walt Farrell IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Customizing TSOPROC
What are the disadvantages of running under the interpreter? By stacking a command do you mean putting a command out on the external data queue and exiting, thus running the 'command'. Can you be clearer on this comment please? This is more out of curiosity. The last installation I was at I converted the CLIST logon processing to REXX as there were things I wanted to do that lent were easier to accomplish in REXX (just lazy in some respects too I must admit as I know REXX much better than I know the CLIST language). I'm no longer responsible for logon procedures and execs although I do handle my own on some of my systems. Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Customizing TSOPROC In 0377b9a583fd0e4aacd676ee33ee994b4a855...@sdkmail13.emea.sas.com, on 06/17/2011 at 09:28 AM, Lindy Mayfield lindy.mayfi...@ssf.sas.com said: And looking at ISPPDF, yep, the first thing they do is reallocate SYSPROC and the rest of the ISPF libraries. (And it is a CLIST - yük). This is one of the rare cases where using a CLIST makes sense. Do it in REXX and you have to either run the rest of your session under the interpreter or stack a command prior to exit. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Customizing TSOPROC
Lindy raises a good point about not trusting the ddname allocation in the logon procedure as in almost 100% of the cases, the logon clist or logon REXX exec will have changed the DDNAME and TSO allocations. How do you tell what is allocated to your TSO session at any one point while in ISPF. TSO ISRDDN or DDLIST from the command line will put you in a nice application showing your allocations. Keep in mind that this list can change by going into applications under ISPF as they can, and often do, change the environment for their own purposes. Hope this helps as well Jags. Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 3:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Customizing TSOPROC the documentation is quite clear. you just have to learn to find it. that's a huge challenge, and takes a lot of detective work, but the payoff is massive. and sometimes you have to learn for yourself -- while the documentation may be clear, they often assume (and rightly so) a certain level of knowledge on the part of the reader. hence the ABC's books as a good starting point. I won't answer your question, but I'll help. Follow the white rabbit... On my Custompac install it goes like this. Go to SDSF DA and look for your TSO user id. Mine looks like this: JOBNAME StepName ProcStep IBMUSER IKJACCNT C17P0601 Now put a ? on the line and select JESYSMSG. The 2nd line is what you want: PROCEDURE IKJACCNT WAS EXPANDED USING SYSTEM LIBRARY SYS1.PROCLIB.ZMVS Now browse the proclib and look for IKJACCNT. The comments in mine are interesting: //* SERVERPAC LOGON PROCEDURE //* //* THIS PROCEDURE ENABLES USERS TO LOG ON TO TSO/E. //* THE CLIST ISPPDF, WHICH RESIDES IN CPAC.CMDPROC, //* IS EXECUTED AT FIRST TO INVOKE THE ISPF. But now the good stuff. Here are the important JCL proc lines you need: //IKJACCNT PROC //IKJACCNT EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,DYNAMNBR=500,PARM=ISPPDF //SYSPROC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=IBMUSER.LINDY.REXX //DD DISP=SHR,DSN=CPAC.CMDPROC.ZMVS //DD DISP=SHR,DSN=CPAC.CMDPROC Just looking at the proc it allocates all necessary ISPF libraries. Now look at the PARM=ISPPDF. That will either be a CLIST or Rexx exec, and you'll find it in one of the SYSPROC libraries. In this exec you can do anything (most anything), for example you can re-allocate libraries -- which means you cannot trust that the DD's in the Proc source are really what are allocated. And looking at ISPPDF, yep, the first thing they do is reallocate SYSPROC and the rest of the ISPF libraries. (And it is a CLIST - yük). So here is where you can write a Rexx exec to do what you want. You can hard code the user-ids so that you dynamically define your ISPF session, keep them in a table, and so on. HTH.Lindy. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of jagadishan perumal Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 7:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Customizing TSOPROC Hi, We have initialized a new OS V1R12. Here all the system programmers have ability to view the the below screen. ISP@MSTRCUSTOMPAC MASTER APPLICATION MENU OPTION === SCROLL === PAGE USERID - xx TIME - 10:04 IS ISMF - Interactive Storage Management Facility P PDF - ISPF/Program Development Facility IP IPCS - Interactive Problem Control Facility DB DB2 - Perform DATABASE 2 interactive functions R RACF - Resource Access Control Facility ADM ADMIN- ADMINISTRATION HELP PANEL DI DITTO- Data Interfile Transfer, Testing and Operations IDI IDI - Interactive Dump Analyzer (Fault Analyzer) SM SMP/E- SMP/E Dialogs IC ICSF - Integrated Cryptographic Service Facility SD SDSF - System Display and Search Facility S SORT - DF/SORT Dialogs HC HCD - Hardware Configuration Definition MQ WMQ - WebSphere MQ Operations and Control Panel BMB BMR BLD - BookManager Build (Create Online Documentation) But I would like to create a new tsoproc for a application developer, so that he/she doesnt view the above panel instead they should land at ISPF screen alone. Any idea or suggestions would be much appreciated. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http
Re: SDSF to display Job
One other suggestion would be to enter the command OWNER ** on the DA screen. Both PREFIX and OWNER can be used to filter what you see on many SDSF screens. It is unlikely your problem but can cause the same type of display issue. Check with your SDSF administrator to get an answer to your question(s) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of jagadishan perumal Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 3:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SDSF to display Job I tried but no luck( PRE CICS**/*PRE ** ) .. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Quasar Chunawala quasar.chunawa...@gmail.com wrote: *Hello - * Can you try *PRE CICS** or just *PRE * *on the SDSF Screen. Thank you very much. Quasar Chunawala On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:45 AM, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, In one of our test lpar. I am not able to find the Job CICS1(Job responsible for cics region). I know this question is totally related to security, but i am unable to subscribe RACF-L currently. Any thoughts or idea on this would be much appreciated. Apology in advance for asking a racf related questions here. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Quasar Chunawala, Mainframes Professional, Mumbai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Indirect Cataloging
heavy emphasis on the NOSCRATCH g It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Indirect Cataloging You can generate the entries manually DEL SYS1.LINKLIB NOSCRATCH CAT(MASTER.CATALOG) DEFINE NONVSAM(NAME(SYS1.LINKLIB) DEVT(X'') VOLUME(**)) CATALOG(NEW.MASTER.CATALOG) You could use the MCNVTCAT utility on the CBT that will help you generate the commands. www.cbttape.org File # 542 Alastair Gray-replacement for MCNVTCAT, other tools You can do as Mark indicated just go to http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html and do a find on INDIRECR.TXT (which looks simpler than using MCNVTCAT) Of course if both these suggestions aren't clear, you may want to retain someone to help guide you through the process. I am sure there are any number of folks (myself included) on IBM-MAIN open to contract work. Rob Schramm On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:31:26 +0530, SAURABH KHANDELWAL saurabh.khandel...@oracle.com wrote: Hello, Thanks Mark. Can you please help me to setup this indirect cataloging into my system. What are all steps has to be followed and what are all dataset are required to be indirect cataloged. If you take a list from the SYSRES vtoc (and take out data sets like VTOCIX) you can create the delete/define statements for IDCAMS with the help of the INDIRECR exec from my web site / CBT file 434. URL of my web site below ... -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ *** Please note the new URL for Mark's MVS Utilities *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Rob Schramm Senior Systems Engineer w: 513.305.6224 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
Keep in mind that the HMCs on your SE LAN are may be ;-) an integral part of the BCPii connectivity between CECs. For a remote request, BCPii will tunnel through to the SE on the local CEC and if the BCPii request is not for this CEC then move to the HMC looking for a route to the SE for the remote CEC in question. The HMC has moved beyond just console/IPL support, but then you all knew that already, didn't you g I really like the OSA support for consoles and also the ability to easily get to the HMC via a web browser (of course with the proper firewall support and not directly on the SE LAN subnet). Back in a previous life it saved me a LOT of walking back and forth to the HMC console during test IPLs. Regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of W. Kevin Kelley Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: HMC System Console usage (one more time) I'm being asked one more time by TPTB to determine how the HMC System Console is actually being used by z/OS customers: 1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the console of last resort? 2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles? 3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles (or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)? W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)
Until JES is initialized and the log captured, it is extremely difficult to debug PARMLIB errors, etc amen to that... Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time) 2 and 3. Especially during sand-box type operations of building a new system. Until JES is initialized and the log captured, it is extremely difficult to debug PARMLIB errors, etc -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Downloading PoOps?
Logging directly into Resource Link and using the Library tab specifying z196 shows me the latest version as 08. Is 09 readily available yet. All of the suggested links I've seen so far have been for 08. Regards, Stan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 11:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Downloading PoOps? In 263395350882ce4d818eb08cd97b1bf70447b...@crplivexc52.citnet.cit.com, on 03/24/2011 at 10:50 AM, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com said: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/r11pdf/#zarchpops That gets me to SA22-7832-07, nopt to the current (-9) PoOps. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: creating mainframe bookmanager from pdf documents???
I take it the index cannot be built after the fact using a standard version of Adobe let alone just the reader right? From your post I take it the author has to consider this ahead of time and 'attach' this index to the PDF somehow for distribution? The CTRL-SHIFT-F that has been mentioned is nice but dreadfully slow... Thanks for the education none the less Sam. Regards, Stan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: creating mainframe bookmanager from pdf documents??? On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Stan Weyman stan.wey...@emc.com wrote: Bookmanager's ability to search across shelves was the main feature I used when in Bookmanager otherwise I spent more time in the PDF version. It would be nice if Abobe would search across a group of PDF files as well as Bookmanager does. Adobe Reader can search across multiple pdf files via an index. It is up to the person/organization which creates the pdf to build and distribute the related index. Stan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Grinsell, Don Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: creating mainframe bookmanager from pdf documents??? It's possible I misunderstood the original question, but why would you want to??? We use library server and view the documents via a web browser. IMO it's a case of using the best tool for the job and viewing manuals via a 3270 interface just doesn't make sense to me. If 3270 is all you have, then I don't have any suggestion for you. -- Donald Grinsell State of Montana 406-444-2983 dgrins...@mt.gov The only rational patriotism is loyalty to the nation all the time, and loyalty to the government when it deserves it. -- Mark Twain -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jan MOEYERSONS Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 05:22 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: creating mainframe bookmanager from pdf documents??? On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:34:56 +, Grinsell, Don dgrins...@mt.gov wrote: Chris, I don't know if this is of interest, but it is possible to create an extended bookshelf and load your pdf files to make them accessible via book manager. You can also index and search the pdf files if desired. I've taken that approach with several vendors manuals. And how do you go about displaying PDF on a 3270? Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: creating mainframe bookmanager from pdf documents???
with the Standard version 9 of Adobe one can create and embedded an index within a PDF that would help later with the search process. Of course this begs the question as to whether Adobe can index across a number of files in a folder creating an embedded index in each as it goes along. I apologize if this is getting a bit off topic. Regards, Stan It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 6:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: creating mainframe bookmanager from pdf documents??? On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Stan Weyman stan.wey...@emc.com wrote: I take it the index cannot be built after the fact using a standard version of Adobe let alone just the reader right? From your post I take it the author has to consider this ahead of time and 'attach' this index to the PDF somehow for distribution? The CTRL-SHIFT-F that has been mentioned is nice but dreadfully slow... Definitely not with the free standard version of Acrobat. It may however be possible to create an index after the fact with an authoring version of Acrobat. There may be some dependencies on the embedded security, etc. which were applied when the pdf was created. Try searching on things like 'pdf index creation', etc. Cheers, Sam Thanks for the education none the less Sam. Regards, Stan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: creating mainframe bookmanager from pdf documents??? On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Stan Weyman stan.wey...@emc.com wrote: Bookmanager's ability to search across shelves was the main feature I used when in Bookmanager otherwise I spent more time in the PDF version. It would be nice if Abobe would search across a group of PDF files as well as Bookmanager does. Adobe Reader can search across multiple pdf files via an index. It is up to the person/organization which creates the pdf to build and distribute the related index. Stan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Grinsell, Don Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: creating mainframe bookmanager from pdf documents??? It's possible I misunderstood the original question, but why would you want to??? We use library server and view the documents via a web browser. IMO it's a case of using the best tool for the job and viewing manuals via a 3270 interface just doesn't make sense to me. If 3270 is all you have, then I don't have any suggestion for you. -- Donald Grinsell State of Montana 406-444-2983 dgrins...@mt.gov The only rational patriotism is loyalty to the nation all the time, and loyalty to the government when it deserves it. -- Mark Twain -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jan MOEYERSONS Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 05:22 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: creating mainframe bookmanager from pdf documents??? On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:34:56 +, Grinsell, Don dgrins...@mt.gov wrote: Chris, I don't know if this is of interest, but it is possible to create an extended bookshelf and load your pdf files to make them accessible via book manager. You can also index and search the pdf files if desired. I've taken that approach with several vendors manuals. And how do you go about displaying PDF on a 3270? Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive
Re: creating mainframe bookmanager from pdf documents???
Bookmanager's ability to search across shelves was the main feature I used when in Bookmanager otherwise I spent more time in the PDF version. It would be nice if Abobe would search across a group of PDF files as well as Bookmanager does. Stan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Grinsell, Don Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 12:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: creating mainframe bookmanager from pdf documents??? It's possible I misunderstood the original question, but why would you want to??? We use library server and view the documents via a web browser. IMO it's a case of using the best tool for the job and viewing manuals via a 3270 interface just doesn't make sense to me. If 3270 is all you have, then I don't have any suggestion for you. -- Donald Grinsell State of Montana 406-444-2983 dgrins...@mt.gov The only rational patriotism is loyalty to the nation all the time, and loyalty to the government when it deserves it. -- Mark Twain -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jan MOEYERSONS Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 05:22 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: creating mainframe bookmanager from pdf documents??? On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:34:56 +, Grinsell, Don dgrins...@mt.gov wrote: Chris, I don't know if this is of interest, but it is possible to create an extended bookshelf and load your pdf files to make them accessible via book manager. You can also index and search the pdf files if desired. I've taken that approach with several vendors manuals. And how do you go about displaying PDF on a 3270? Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
How to get the CPC name on which the current system is running
I'm looking for areas in z/OS where I can get the CPC name that the current system is running on. The IPA is a possibility but looks to be populated via LOADxx and we've had issues with the HWNAME filtering causing problems with the CPC name. I've looked at IBM's CSRSI service and they have a neat setup where you can request information at the CPC, LPAR, or VM level *OR* any combination of the three. However, in IBM's infinite wisdom it appears they left the CPC name off the list of information returned via a CPC call sigh. They have a CPCNAME defined in the macro expansion but it is an ORG of the LPARNAME and is in the LPAR area, not the CPC area so it's not a matter of doing a single vs multiple call type. Very strange they would leave out the CPC name. I've used the REXX CONSOLE interface in the past to do a D M=CPU and then GETMSG to retrieve it but I'd prefer not to use this method. Does anyone know where the CPC name is obtained when D M=CPU is issued or, barring that, another place I can get the CPC name? Regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.commailto:weyman_s...@emc.com EMC² *(508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to get the CPC name on which the current system is running
My guess would have been D M=CPU uses an undocumented area. I've settled on using the ECVTHDNM and ECVTLPNM fields as they're part of the programming interface and should be more reliable than the fields in the IPA. BPCII has many parts that are quite hidden and not documented. Trying to get details out of IBM is fun. The BCPii interface you are speaking of may be the one that returns the CPC name for a LOCALCPC query which doesn't require RACF authority to get to it. You can also get the local LPAR name but after that you have to know what you are looking for before making the BCPii request The response I got from IBM concerning CSRSI leads me to believe that the CPC Name (the 8 character name used to identify the CEC in HCD which is appended to the NETID value for the HMC network to form the value BCPii uses - netid.nau) is NOT part of the returned data from STSI (I'll have to get out the POPs to verify this one though - sigh) Thanks to all who made suggestions to help me out here. It was greatly appreciated Regards, Stan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Mulder Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 3:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: How to get the CPC name on which the current system is running IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 03/17/2011 09:40:13 AM: I'm looking for areas in z/OS where I can get the CPC name that the current system is running on. The IPA is a possibility but looks to be populated via LOADxx and we've had issues with the HWNAME filtering causing problems with the CPC name. I've looked at IBM's CSRSI service and they have a neat setup where you can request information at the CPC, LPAR, or VM level *OR* any combination of the three. However, in IBM's infinite wisdom it appears they left the CPC name off the list of information returned via a CPC call sigh. They have a CPCNAME defined in the macro expansion but it is an ORG of the LPARNAME and is in the LPAR area, not the CPC area so it's not a matter of doing a single vs multiple call type. Very strange they would leave out the CPC name. I've used the REXX CONSOLE interface in the past to do a D M=CPU and then GETMSG to retrieve it but I'd prefer not to use this method. Does anyone know where the CPC name is obtained when D M=CPU is issued or, barring that, another place I can get the CPC name? D M=CPU uses an undocumented internal interface to obtain the CPC name. Another BCP component also obtains the CPC name, but saves it in an OCO control block. There is also a BCPii module which uses this internal interface to obtain the CPC name. I don't know if this is just for BCPii's internal use, or if it makes the CPC name available to BCPii users. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PSAAOLD question - when is it updated?
having been down this road on numerous occasions I think Rob has it pretty much nailed IMHO. Please send check payable to Rocket Software, etc, etc... G Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 2:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PSAAOLD question - when is it updated? The following could explain what you are seeing but is based on a fair amount of guesswork : (1) ISV code using some sort of BPX* service that results in new ASID being created to perform the work - one of those *OMVSEX chaps (2) ISV (or IBM) code that runs in the new ASID wants, with good reason, to setup a ASID-level RESMGR routine to clean-up when the BPX-thing terminates. (3) RESMGR code uses some sort of pointer to a TCB in the now-terminated ASID (4) TCB addresses *can* be similar in different address spaces (obviously they are not the same thing) (5) RESMGR routine has (for years) been processing the TCB address passed to it and finding a valid address in ASID(0001) - hence there has been no abend (6) Something has changed in R12 that has made that TCB address not valid and the bug (that has been there for ages) now suddenly bites. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: 14 March 2011 17:11 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PSAAOLD question - when is it updated? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 11:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PSAAOLD question - when is it updated? John PSAAOLD points to the *HOME* ASID (HASN). When space switching occurs it is the control registers that are updated to contain the new values of PASN and SASN. There are instructions to extract the values for both PASN and SASN (EPAR and ESAR) on the fly or just look at the control regs in IPCS if you have a dump. From what you are saying it sounds like the products ASID level RESMGR routine has got its knickers in a twist. Rob Scott I don't think so, but could be wrong. It's a monitor tool. I can't say more. We continue to use the product under a permanent use license that we got many years ago. But we dropped the support license in order to save money. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: rejected messages from verizon account
Both you and Kirk have valid points. I am obviously trying to set up a non work account for IBM Main. I'd rather use my ISP as I pay for it anyhow, the speed is usually pretty good and I can use something like Outlook from home or the webmail ISP interface via a browser when at work. At least that's the theory. I didn't have a chance last night to try a post from Outlook. I still think the webmail interface is using something like HTML but I haven't tried calling them yet. That's the next step after trying outlook from home. It'll get resolved eventually. One thing I've learned in this business is patience. Thanks to all for the suggestions and support. Regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Goossen Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: rejected messages from verizon account Kirk, People have different situations. I have had the same ISP for the last 9 years because, until recently, nothing else in my area had the speed I wanted at the same or lower price. Now there are some options. But I am hearing from neighbors that I am getting better service than they are. I had a Hot Mail account for a short time, until I had a problem with it and dropped it. I seldom go directly to the ISP web mail. I use a PC application to access my email. My ISP has great SPAM filtering, but I have better on my PC. And my ISP has given me great support when things have gone wrong. There are likely hundreds of different situations among the readers here. Solutions for our own situations that are not similar to that of the OP are not helpful. Stan, To help with your situation: If it isn't a text versus HTML situation as suggested earlier, I suggest starting with your ISP and see if they can help. I had similar issues at work getting subscribed to IBM-MAIN. It turned out that the company had blocked the website because it did something that was unsafe. They opened it up for me just long enough to subscribe and then blocked it again. I have heard of some ISPs that default to blocking some things to protect their subscribers. If that is your case, then they can tell you how to unblock it. Thank you and have a Terrific day! Jonathan Goossen, ACS, CL Tape Specialist ACT Mainframe Storage Group 651-361-4541 From: Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 03/09/2011 02:18 PM Subject:Re: rejected messages from verizon account Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Stan, This is not really what you asked, but why would you want to use an email account from your ISP? I end up switching ISPs every couple of years to get a better deal. Just get yourself a GMail account (or Hotmail, etc, etc). Its a better product that you will get from an ISP, and you never have to change if you decide to dump your ISP. You might even want a separate one just for list subscriptions and then you can read it via a POP or IMAP client, along with your real email account. Even better, get yourself a domain name and then pay for an email hosting service.We use TuffMail. They have a terrific offering for a reasonable price and they do a great job of SPAM filtering and support. The support is worth its weight in gold if you ever need it - ever try calling an ISP or free email provider for support? Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com PS Other unsolicited tips for using an ISP, especially if you work from home: -- don't use an ISP's DNS service, either OpenDNS or Google's DNS will be faster and you will often avoid outages caused by their crappy DNS servers -- don't install their software on your computer. You don't need it and it is only designed to sell you ads and make them money. -- don't pay for their modem. You'll save money and get something better from NewEgg (and its easier to avoid using their crappy integrated router) -- don't pay for their WIFI/router. Get yourself a WRT54G or something that you can flash with the open source Tomato firmware, and you will have a *much* better firewall and router. On 3/9/2011 6:22 AM, Stan Weyman wrote: I'm trying to use a personal account on verizon.net and am getting a reject for each message sent. I can't see anywhere in the settings anything that might be causing an issue. The subject line is 'test' and the message is 'Please ignore this test message'. The message I am getting back isn't a lot of help either: -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search
Re: operlog
For a single image setup I would suggest you stay with SYSLOG. OPERLOG is really nice if you want a sysplexed SYSLOG that has entries, by time, for all of the sysplexed systems. It's easier than trying to eyeball multiple syslogs. no one at my last employer was in a hurry to set it up so I did in my copious free time lol Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ibmnew Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: operlog Hi all Our shop is a single image on z/OS 1.11 Do we need to issue 'VARY OPERLOG,HARDCPY' command? Do the single image need OPERLOG? Any suggestion would be helpful! Best Regards, Jason Cai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
rejected messages from verizon account
I'm trying to use a personal account on verizon.net and am getting a reject for each message sent. I can't see anywhere in the settings anything that might be causing an issue. The subject line is 'test' and the message is 'Please ignore this test message'. The message I am getting back isn't a lot of help either: Your posting to the IBM-MAIN list has been rejected because it only contains material in a format disallowed by the list configuration. The list is configured to remove unwanted material and process the remaining text; however, in this case, there would be nothing left after removing the disallowed material. You may want to resend your message in plain text, which is always allowed. Does anyone else post from verizon.net and did you have any troubles with rejected messages? I'm thinking it might be a text vs HTML thing but can't see anywhere in the verizon setup where I might set this. Thanks for any assistance. Stan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment
XCF (sysplex) - the key one. Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rabbe, Luke Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 1:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment I know these CDS types: ARM BPXMCDS CFRM LOGR SFM WLM What's the 7th type? Luke -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 12:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment Daniel Allen pisze: We have a XCF-local system with no access to a coupling facility. However, we would like to run CICS/TS 4.1 with DASD-only logging. Can we create a COUPLExx parmlib member with LOGR only ? Or do we need all five COUPLE facilities ? No, and no. You have to create two CDS types: sysplex (aka XCF) and LOGR. Oh, BTW, there are 7 CDS types. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 16.07.2010 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.248.328 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment
BPXMCDS is the OMVS CDS type Allan. Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 2:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Moving from XCF-local to single-system sysplex environment OMVS snip I know these CDS types: ARM BPXMCDS CFRM LOGR SFM WLM What's the 7th type? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ASC. Mode
Rob gets the 'Understatement of the Month' award for this one g -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ASC. Mode There is a very readable section on synchronous cross-memory terminology in the MVS Extended Addressability Guide manual - it is *much* easier to digest than POPs. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Micheal Butz Sent: 17 February 2011 20:35 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: ASC. Mode Hi I know ASC mode refers to the Set Address Space Control instruction SAC. 0. Primary SAC 512 AR. Mode But what does it mean ASC mode: Primary or Secondry In the IBM manuals Sent from my iPhone -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK Down?
MA down as well... Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 8:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBMLINK Down? Here in CT also -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 8:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBMLINK Down? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Getting an 500 Internal Server Error this morning. Is anyone else getting the same error? Same error in Chicagoland. I'm SO-O-O surprised. :-| -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLink f*ed up again??
I had this problem almost a month ago and never got a good answer as to what was causing it. Eventually it went away for the ETR I was trying to update. IBM's need to know stance you know... Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 9:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: IBMLink f*ed up again?? Trying to create an ETR. Fill in the usual stuff and get this: An error has occurred: * The Comments field is not valid. WHAT??? There is NO comments field visible anywhere! WTF is going on with this POS now?? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: If Else JCL question
Beware of COND=ONLY to suppress execution. Decades ago, a colleague did that, but a prior step ABENDed. Embarrassing because it was my program. I've since used COND=(0,LE). I've had terrible experiences using COND=ONLY and, to a lesser extent, COND=EVEN. Always considered them the lazy way to handle exceptions (just my opinion though) so I've avoided them if at all possible. Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: If Else JCL question On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:08:32 -0600, Robert Birdsall wrote: Similar to Gil's reply - skip if you've had enough... ... // IF (STEPA.RC = 4 AND STEPB.RC = 0 AND STEPC.RUN = FALSE AND // STEPD.RC = 8 AND STEPE.RUN = FALSE) OR ... Is it permissible to omit the continuation mark in col. 72 as you appear to have done? I thought that was permitted only if the continued line ended with a comma. (I looked briefly, not thoroughly, for this in the IF...ELSE chapter of the JCL RM.) Beware of COND=ONLY to suppress execution. Decades ago, a colleague did that, but a prior step ABENDed. Embarrassing because it was my program. I've since used COND=(0,LE). Still waiting for a followup in COND format from the person who posed the challenge... -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: If Else JCL question
right you are about the COND EVEN and ONLY use. I was thinking of another issue when I inserted the 'lazy' comment. I've always considered the inverse nature of COND checking to be a problem (if this condition is met, bypass this step I think is the name of the game - I don't write much JCL anymore). If a job with multiple steps got complex enough to require the use of both COND EVEN/ONLY and the standard COND=(x,op) checks, then I would seriously look to splitting this piece of work into multiple jobs. IMHO of course. Thanks for the correction Cris. regards Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Cris Hernandez #9 Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 4:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: If Else JCL question COND=EVEN and COND=ONLY only take effect when there is a system or user abend returned, they have nothing to do with cond code checking. If either failed to perform according to specs, I'd be raising cain with my sysprogs in short order. hernandez --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Stan Weyman stan.wey...@emc.com wrote: From: Stan Weyman stan.wey...@emc.com Subject: Re: If Else JCL question To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 10:34 AM Beware of COND=ONLY to suppress execution. Decades ago, a colleague did that, but a prior step ABENDed. Embarrassing because it was my program. I've since used COND=(0,LE). I've had terrible experiences using COND=ONLY and, to a lesser extent, COND=EVEN. Always considered them the lazy way to handle exceptions (just my opinion though) so I've avoided them if at all possible. Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: If Else JCL question On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:08:32 -0600, Robert Birdsall wrote: Similar to Gil's reply - skip if you've had enough... ... // IF (STEPA.RC = 4 AND STEPB.RC = 0 AND STEPC.RUN = FALSE AND // STEPD.RC = 8 AND STEPE.RUN = FALSE) OR ... Is it permissible to omit the continuation mark in col. 72 as you appear to have done? I thought that was permitted only if the continued line ended with a comma. (I looked briefly, not thoroughly, for this in the IF...ELSE chapter of the JCL RM.) Beware of COND=ONLY to suppress execution. Decades ago, a colleague did that, but a prior step ABENDed. Embarrassing because it was my program. I've since used COND=(0,LE). Still waiting for a followup in COND format from the person who posed the challenge... -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TSO User with SDSDF Console name of CICSCONS
Check from the DA screen under the pull down called 'Options'. Number 9 is where you can set the console name Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: TSO User with SDSDF Console name of CICSCONS Running z/OS V1.11 I am trying to determine why a TSO User when they issue an MVS command gets the name CICSCONS instead of their TSO ID in the SYSLOG. So I would see CICSCONS 0284 $COJ(5204),OUTGRP=1.1.1 However it is really a TSO ID that is issuing the command through SDSF. Any hints as to where I can start to see how the CICSCONS name is setup for this one tso user? Thanks Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: help
I got the '42' reference Rick g but I may have forgotten the significance of Friday I guess. It's been a LONG time since I read the book(s) Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 7:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: help Go back to The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy series of books. Rick Stan Weyman wrote: what does Friday have to do with the answer ;-) Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Grinsell, Don Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: help 42 ... it's Friday -- Donald Grinsell State of Montana 406-444-2983 dgrins...@mt.gov Humans are the best value in computers. Where else can you get a non-linear computer weighing only about 160 pounds, having a billion binary decision elements, that can be mass-produced by unskilled labor? -- Scott Crossfield, X-15 test pilot -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: List spam
I would agree with you if the rare work related email had been put into this list for all to see. The difference is the company trolled for email addresses and now is sending out emails purporting that I registered/subscribed to their website for product information and, should I no longer want that information, I need to do something to stop it, thus verifying my email address as 'live' This is not the tactic of a company I care to do commerce with I'm afraid... Regards Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Avram Friedman Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: List spam I would not consider a rare work related email as a spam attack. Most firms that seek new clients engage in some form of targeted advertising. There are a few things that seperate the email from Recovery Knowelage from spam. 1. Appears to to a rare event. 2. It is targeted and directed ... i.e. is not an advert for tulip bulbs. 3. Presents a real product from a small company that has been around for many years. When one posts to a public forum like IBM-MAIN or even joins a public forum some privicy is sacrficed Best wishes Avram Friedman On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 05:57:02 -0700, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: On 1/14/2011 1:33 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote: Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. Must have been done as a harvesting of the list as both addresses I use to post have been hit. No way I would have signed up (twice) for DB2 paraphernalia. Probably seen it before and just trashed it. Yeah, not only did I get spammed, they spelled my company name wrong throughout the email: Transiners Friend very primitive. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our new tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: List spam
I would go so far as to say I wouldn't rule a company like this out but I still take some exception to the back door method used to send out their message, after getting their email list (I'm sure they also 'checked' the DB2 list for email addresses as well - among others). I am also a realist and this appears to be somewhat accepted in the world of email. I harken back to the days when anything posted that even smelled commercial would bring a stinging and last rebuke from the community. Ah the good old days (or were they g) LOL Regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: List spam Stan, I agree. There are always some grey areas (or grey persons, who besides plugging their training company also provide useful contributions ;-)). However this is indiscriminate spanning to z/OS customers including suggesting they have subscribed, while it strictly concerns DB2 and there is a DB2-list. Kees. Stan Weyman stan.wey...@emc.com wrote in message news:63f312e6f4b4674a8f5ac4512c47ec8003e0e23...@mx06a.corp.emc.com... I would agree with you if the rare work related email had been put into this list for all to see. The difference is the company trolled for email addresses and now is sending out emails purporting that I registered/subscribed to their website for product information and, should I no longer want that information, I need to do something to stop it, thus verifying my email address as 'live' This is not the tactic of a company I care to do commerce with I'm afraid... Regards Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Avram Friedman Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: List spam I would not consider a rare work related email as a spam attack. Most firms that seek new clients engage in some form of targeted advertising. There are a few things that seperate the email from Recovery Knowelage from spam. 1. Appears to to a rare event. 2. It is targeted and directed ... i.e. is not an advert for tulip bulbs. 3. Presents a real product from a small company that has been around for many years. When one posts to a public forum like IBM-MAIN or even joins a public forum some privicy is sacrficed Best wishes Avram Friedman On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 05:57:02 -0700, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com wrote: On 1/14/2011 1:33 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote: Any/every-one else getting spammed by recoveryknowledge ?. Must have been done as a harvesting of the list as both addresses I use to post have been hit. No way I would have signed up (twice) for DB2 paraphernalia. Probably seen it before and just trashed it. Yeah, not only did I get spammed, they spelled my company name wrong throughout the email: Transiners Friend very primitive. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our new tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e
Re: help
what does Friday have to do with the answer ;-) Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Grinsell, Don Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 11:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: help 42 ... it's Friday -- Donald Grinsell State of Montana 406-444-2983 dgrins...@mt.gov Humans are the best value in computers. Where else can you get a non-linear computer weighing only about 160 pounds, having a billion binary decision elements, that can be mass-produced by unskilled labor? -- Scott Crossfield, X-15 test pilot -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: BCPii code
My thanks for the history lesson for BCPii. I was under the impression, from a z/OS customer point of view it was quite a bit less mature. I may just be hitting problems that hadn't been encountered elsewhere. Two issued were related to the ENF OpSys MSG interface. If the z/OS Image name connected to via BCPii and enabled via HWIEVENT was exactly 8 characters, it didn't work at all. Most all image name here are 8 characters but some are less and those worked which led us down a path looking more at the CEC than the Image. The PTF for this fix was just released. Another problem relates to long single line messages. I was testing throughput via my ENF exit and found D U,,,,52 works fine but D U,,,,53 causes an abend in BCPii indicating some limit on the number of characters BCPii handles through its data space. I've only been working with the product since late last Spring but have hit a good number of issues. IBM has been good about dealing with them if not a little on the slow side. Pleasure talking with you... Regards, Stan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of W. Kevin Kelley Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: BCPii code On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:47:45 -0500, Stan Weyman stan.wey...@emc.com wrote: The sample code is ok but nothing that will help that much. One of the two examples is specifically for the ENF interface BCPii provides for, among many other things, getting return code info for things such as issuing z/OS commands. The return code you receive from BCPii simply means BCPii was able to issue its call, not that the specific function you were attempting worked sigh. To get the results of some BCPii calls, you need to code an ENF exit. Another ENF interface is for Operating System message tracking. Seems to work ok as long as the operating system message isn't too long, then it doesn't work so good g. Given how 'young' this product is, there are problems I've come across. Stan, I haven't seen the sample BCPii code but the ENF stuff that you refer to has been there since around 1990 or so. BCPii is an extension to the architecture, and is built on top of some of the same infrastructure, that was put in-place to support the HMC System Console and remote hardware operations that was exploited by the Target System Control Facility (TSCF) around 1990. (I was the chief designer of TSCF). TSCF subsequently became the Processor Operations (ProcOps) component of the Tivoli System Automation (TSA) product. So the underlying architecture and infrastructure that BCPii is based on has been there quite awhile. What is new is the SNMP layer and the ability to use the internal network to go from image to image. I ran the original task force in 1989 that defined the underlying architecture and I am a co-author of the patent that was issued for the architecture. The idea for BCPii came from me to solve a GDPS hardware control problem and I brought together the folks that funded and coded the initial GDPS implementation. Other folks in z/OS found a need for hardware control and the GDPS implement was subsequently reworked into system code. I haven't had anything to do with it directly in quite awhile, but I do keep an eye on it. W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: BCPii code
The sample code is ok but nothing that will help that much. One of the two examples is specifically for the ENF interface BCPii provides for, among many other things, getting return code info for things such as issuing z/OS commands. The return code you receive from BCPii simply means BCPii was able to issue its call, not that the specific function you were attempting worked sigh. To get the results of some BCPii calls, you need to code an ENF exit. Another ENF interface is for Operating System message tracking. Seems to work ok as long as the operating system message isn't too long, then it doesn't work so good g. Given how 'young' this product is, there are problems I've come across. Luc, while not in a position to simply hand over working code, I can provide something I didn't have while writing API interfaces for all of the BCPii call types (CONN, DISC, CMD, et al); namely someone to ask questions of. If you run into problems feel free to ask through this forum or you can contact me via my email address. Good luck. Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 6:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: BCPii code Luc, IBM is providing two samples via apar OA31731. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?crawler=1uid=isg1OA31731 The bad news is, they are in C. Mary Anne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/os x z/os.e differences
snip This shows to me (I´m a fresh new guy in z/os world) that binaries for z/os 1.8 and z/os.e 1.8 are same, and functions are enabled or disabled by changing product ID from 5655-G52 to 5694-A01. So, I can conclude that PSP upgrade zosv1r8 could be applied to z/os.e 1.8. In other words, there are no specific psp for z/os.e 1.8. I´m correct? snip I hope you're right about that but I wouldn't make that assumption myself. Not sure of the FMID environment differences so you might have trouble putting the z/OS 1.8 psp onto z/OS 1.8.e just for that reason. You'll see I'm sure. I wish you luck Carlos. Regards, Stan It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Carlos Bodra - Pessoal Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: z/os x z/os.e differences Hi listners, Contuning my saga about z/os.e and z10 BC, we tried to IPL it before install psp and get following message: IFA200W LICENSE=z/OSe WAS SPECIFIED BUT IS NOT ALLOWED. This message says that z/os.e runs only in z800 and z890 machines and Lpars needs to have an specific name zose. Checking google about z/os.e and z10 BC we found a Share presentation dated from 2007 that says something about z/os.e 1.7 and 1.8 and z9 BC. It says in one step of migration following statement: If you currently run z/os.e 1.7 or 1.8 and want to run same level, but with z/os zNalc pricing do the following: a - Get your z/os license with zNalc pricing. Ensure to have same priced features in new z/nalc license as you have in z/os.e. b - Shutdown your z/os.e system c - Modify the z/os.e customization as follows: c1 - In parmlib member IFAPRDxx convert all the enabled z/OS.e statements for ID 5655-G52 to z/OS statments for ID 5694-A01 This shows to me (I´m a fresh new guy in z/os world) that binaries for z/os 1.8 and z/os.e 1.8 are same, and functions are enabled or disabled by changing product ID from 5655-G52 to 5694-A01. So, I can conclude that PSP upgrade zosv1r8 could be applied to z/os.e 1.8. In other words, there are no specific psp for z/os.e 1.8. I´m correct? Thanks in advance for any comment about. -- Carlos Bodra IBM zSeries Certified Specialist Sao Paulo - Brazil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zOS messages.. totally true... almost totally useless
holding breath.turning blue.. Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of W. Kevin Kelley Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: zOS messages.. totally true... almost totally useless On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:19:00 -0800, John Mattson john_matt...@ea.epson.com wrote: Continuing to voice my annoyance with zOS messages. May I suggest that you open a formal problem with IBM for each of these? W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFDSS question
My area isn't really DFDSS but the format of the command used to create the backup determines whether the backup is a logical or physical one. A logical backup can be restored to most any DASD type whereas a physical must be restored to the same DASD format from which it was backed up. I'm sure there are other differences but for my understanding this is the basic one. I had a colleague who was handed a bunch of tapes and asked to restore some old files. Recovery went well until he realized he had a physical backup from an old 9345 DASD volume. Regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Norgauer Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: DFDSS question What makes a DFDSS back-up a logical dump as opposed to a physical dump? John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004 Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HMC Web Interface
have you tried reloading Java on your machine. I ran into a similar problems with IE and the HMC. Firefox worked fine but I couldn't get into the HMC using IE. Reloaded Java and all worked fine. Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Kopischke Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HMC Web Interface On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:37:07 -0400, Jousma, David wrote: What kind of errors are you getting? I am running XP at work yet, but am using IE8 with no problems. I get the initial home page for the HMC, but when I click for the sign-on page, the app hangs. It's that flash page that says Please Wait with CANCEL and HELP buttons. It used to be a quick flash of that page and then the sign-on page would display. Now it hangs. I also went through several iterations of JAVA maintenance trying to find a workable combination. I finally managed to get the sign-on page and get signed on, but when the app displayed the HMC pages, the scrollable task pane on the right is totally missing and right-clicking for a task list wouldn't work. XP with IE8 does work ??? That's interesting. One of my colleagues has been using Windows 7/IE8 for about 6 months. His AS/400 HMC was working fine. Then the desktop folks pushed out a standardized desktop to him and it all quit. Same errors as I'm getting. Hmm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC
With the exception of the VM issue and some pain getting the security profiles configured (IBM and/or the SAF vendor should be of help), BCPII is the way to do this. VM is an interesting challenge. Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Austin Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 4:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC Thanks for all your responses. Essentially I'm looking for a method of identifying MVS images so that I can talk to my agent running in each of those images. If my agent is not running on an image then neither is any other of my software. BCPii looks interesting, but obviously has security issues and won't run on an MVS image running under VM. This is very very early days in my research. My initial thought was that I might be able to extract the 'hypersocket' data in some way. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Don Williams Sent: 21 September 2010 22:47 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC Why would a dishonest customer be willing to grant your product the security it needs to validate the seating arrangements (assuming that is your intent)? [Think security exit, etc. that tells your product it is authorized, but suppresses actual access.] If the customer is honest, then he would just abide by the contract as agreed. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Austin Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Identify all MVS images in a CEC I am researching seat based licensing for Cloud computing on z/OS and have the following question. From an MVS image is it possible to identify all other active MVS images in the CEC even if some of those images are not in a sysplex? Thanks Steve - - --- This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 internal virus protection system. . - --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 internal virus protection system. . - This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 internal virus protection system. . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC
Using a new tool for z/OS 1.11 (and 1.10 as a deliverable) called BCPii you can query not only the CEC you are on but all network connected CECs that the LPAR running BCPii can 'see'. This does require some security setup on the HMC (cross partition authority and community names) and RACF facility classes to get there but, once there, you can see all kinds of information about the CPCs, LPARs, Capacity Records, activation profiles and more. Check out the Callable Service Guide for High Level Languages SA22-7613-05 for more information on setting up and using BCPii. The applies to all LPARS and CECs regardless of sysplex connectivity Feel free to ask questions Steve. The documentation leaves a lot to be desired (trust me on this one...) Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Austin Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Identify all MVS images in a CEC I am researching seat based licensing for Cloud computing on z/OS and have the following question. From an MVS image is it possible to identify all other active MVS images in the CEC even if some of those images are not in a sysplex? Thanks Steve - This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 internal virus protection system. . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC
I strongly suggest BCPii over the HWMCAAPI SNMP interface. Hands down the BCPii interface is easier to use. Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Shorkend Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 4:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC Barbara - very true regarding LPAR names , but this gave me another idea. The newer HMC (2.10.x ?) shows an OS type for each LPAR. You could write some code using BCPii (or the older SNMP API) to harvest this information for each LPAR. I think that this answers the OP's request? On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: What about RMF monitor III? The CPC command shows all LPARS including z/OS, CF and z/VM Yes, and that's what the SMF70 records are also showing. But unless you know the naming convention for lpars and system names, you cannot distinguish if that lpar is running z/OS, z/VM or (native) zLinux. Believe me, our lpar names shown via the CPC command have no resemblance whatsoever to any MVS system name here. Which is why every mvs system (or VM, for that matter) can be IPL'd in just about any lpar (provided the necessary hardware is defined to that lpar). Regards, Barbara Nitz -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Mike Shorkend m...@shorkend.com www.shorkend.com Tel: +972524208743 Fax: +97239772196 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC
I would agree that if you are putting a product out to other customers then it would be difficult to rely on them being on the proper hardware and z/OS level to support BPCii (currently at least a z9 CEC and z/OS 1.11 (1.10 with BCPii installed after the fact although this doesn't include everything at the 1.11 level). I'm not sure why your security folks had trouble with the facility classes. the base HWI.APPLNAME.HWISERV is pretty straightforward and only requires READ authority. You can then set up a single profile for each CEC with the community name in the APPLDATA to connect to the HMC and even run with a generic facility class for the LPARs as no community name is needed in the APPLDATA field. I though the RACF side was a lot easier than trying to figure out other aspects of the tool given the dearth of documentation available (in particular when using the ENF68 interface which I am still playing around with). Still far and away WORLDS better than SNMP HWMCAAPI programming g Regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Field, Alan C. Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC I see you are from a software vendor. Don't depend on the BCPii interface being implemented at a customer site. I've had to give up on experimenting with it. Our security admins are unable to get the definitions implemented so we can use it, or debug the wrong definitions they have implemented. Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Austin Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 02:41 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Identify all MVS images in a CEC I am researching seat based licensing for Cloud computing on z/OS and have the following question. From an MVS image is it possible to identify all other active MVS images in the CEC even if some of those images are not in a sysplex? Thanks Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS, TCP/IP, and OSA
You could try a 2216. I may have one in my garage holding up some other junk g. OSA is really the way to go these days. In addition to TCPIP communications, with the proper OSA card and configuration, you can even use then for console support and eliminate those incredibly expensive OS/2 boxes IBM dubbed the 2074s. Very big, very heavy and very useless these days. Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS, TCP/IP, and OSA Technically true, I suppose, but what's the point? OSA's come pretty much as standard equipment these days. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: z/OS, TCP/IP, and OSA Hello all, I have a question. I was talking with someone that said you don't need OSA's to run tcpip under z/os and use it to communicate with the outside world. If that's true then what would be used instead of an OSA? NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: System Dump - Long non-dispatchable
I ran into this at another place after I upgraded their systems to 1.11 more than a year ago. I don't recall PMR numbers, etc but I think it had to do with the QUIESCE option on the DUMP. We were seeing very long times in one of the GRS exits during dump processing if I recall correctly Do a search at IBMLink on DUMP and QUIESCE and you should find it. Regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Mike Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 4:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: System Dump - Long non-dispatchable All, Since we upgraded to z/OS 1.11, we have encountered a couple of system dumps that have set the system non-dispatchable during global data capture for 15 seconds! This long delay caused an application outage because the application could not tolerate that long of wait. The two dumps causing the long wait were unrelated (i.e. different products/different abends). We have had other system dumps where the global data capture only took about 1 second. IBM is looking at one of the dumps where the system was set non-dispatchable for 15 seconds, but I was wondering if anyone has encountered this? Mike Martin /PREThis email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. Personal emails are restricted by policy of the State Employees' Credit Union (SECU). Therefore SECU specifically disclaims any responsibility or liability for any personal information or opinions of the author expressed in this email. /P -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Issuing WTOR SVC In Multitask Environment
WTOR 'WAIT AND DON'T GIVE CONTROL TO ANOTHER TASK.',REPLY,1,RESPECB So instead of doing a WAIT ECB=RESPECB AFTER THE WTOR HARDLOOP DS 0H TM RESBECB,X'40' BNO HARDLOOP Can you imagine if everyone did this to get around giving up control of the processor sigh This is not a solution. It might work, but not a solution. Can you describe more what you are trying to do?? Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of michealbutz Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 1:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Issuing WTOR SVC In Multitask Environment WTOR 'WAIT AND DON'T GIVE CONTROL TO ANOTHER TASK.',REPLY,1,RESPECB So instead of doing a WAIT ECB=RESPECB AFTER THE WTOR HARDLOOP DS 0H TM RESBECB,X'40' BNO HARDLOOP -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gerhard Postpischil Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 1:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Issuing WTOR SVC In Multitask Environment On 9/12/2010 12:56 AM, michealbutz wrote: In a multitask environment this would cause the dispatcher to give control to another task while waiting for a operator reply Did somebody rewrite the Operating System while I wasn't looking? When you issue a valid WTOR, control is returned to your task (subject to normal dispatching considerations). The communications task will asynchronously issue the WTOR request to the appropriate console. Is there some way of making sure that the dispatcher doesn't give up control of the task that issued the WTOR and wait for a reply No, but I think you're confused. Nobody is forcing you to wait for a reply unless your program has a WAIT SVC. If you want to keep running, don't WAIT. But if your intention is to keep running normally, with a WTOR response being optional, you should look at the MODIFY facility, that allows the operators to issue a command to your task without tying up a response number. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CFMODE STATUS
This is set in the HMC while within the CF partition. The command escapes me at the moment as I don't do this kind of support any longer (something simple like SET MODE NONVOLATILE) but it is indeed kept across IPLs but does go back to a default I believe when a POR is performed... Regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN itsystem BPER Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 5:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CFMODE STATUS I cannot found whre the MODE of the CF (VOLATILE or NONVOLATILE) is saved ? Somehewhere in the SE ? It survives to a poweron reset. Thanks and regards Bernard Coeytaux -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CFMODE STATUS
you are correct Mark. I do think at one point it did revert on POR because I remember having to reset it for some reason. As I said, I don't directly do this support (did so in another life elsewhere g). Thanks for correcting my mistake... regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 11:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CFMODE STATUS The OP didn't ask how to set it, they asked where the setting is saved. And no, it doesn't go back to a default when you POR, which I'm sure is why the OP was curious / asking where the setting is saved. DYNDISP is also saved. The CF command is: MODE NONVOLatile | VOLatile Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:mzel...@flash.net Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:21:05 -0400, Stan Weyman stan.wey...@emc.com wrote: This is set in the HMC while within the CF partition. The command escapes me at the moment as I don't do this kind of support any longer (something simple like SET MODE NONVOLATILE) but it is indeed kept across IPLs but does go back to a default I believe when a POR is performed... Regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN itsystem BPER Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 5:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: CFMODE STATUS I cannot found whre the MODE of the CF (VOLATILE or NONVOLATILE) is saved ? Somehewhere in the SE ? It survives to a poweron reset. Thanks and regards Bernard Coeytaux -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CFMODE STATUS
my guess is it changed after the z900 as I previously supported a pair of z900 from which we migrated to a pair of z10s. At that point I suspect we no longer had to do the reset. Prior to that it was years before when we converted off a pair of 9672s. Water under the bridge though as you are correct. Now-a-days it's Set it and forget it and it is kept in the SE itself. Stan p.s. as an aside and not to stroke your ego g but I do appreciated some of the utilities you've made available. IPLINFO being one I like as it takes very little set up time to use. Every once in a while when I have time I explore to see what's out there and invariably wander by your website. Thanks Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 12:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CFMODE STATUS On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:00:52 -0400, Stan Weyman stan.wey...@emc.com wrote: you are correct Mark. I do think at one point it did revert on POR because I remember having to reset it for some reason. As I said, I don't directly do this support (did so in another life elsewhere g). Thanks for correcting my mistake... Yes, that is true from what I recall. I'm not sure if it changed with z900 or a generation (or 2) before or with z990 and later. Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:mzel...@flash.net Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where is APF documented?
I really have to chuckle at the question Charles since I'll wager at some point in time every person on this list has asked this same question. To date I really know of no single place where APF is outlined, explained, and/or documented other than what's in the Authorized Guide. Not the greatest but the place to start... It's easy to know how to get APF authorized. The trickier part is knowing the many ways to lose it and tricks on how to get around it. Regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 7:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Where is APF documented? I know what APF-authorization means for a dataset well enough to use it. I'm writing a manual and I would like a formal definition of APF-authorization. I search the book manager z/OS MVS shelf for APF and I get lots of hits but the ones I looked at are either very peripheral or else they are how to set up your APF list in PARMLIB or the SETPROG APF command. Where is a formal statement of what APF-authorization means? Charles Mills -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where is APF documented?
Everything else is a detail. truer words have yet to be said g... Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Where is APF documented? Yeah, it's documented bottom-up and in the wrong place. APF is not an authorized assembler service. APF authorization is in the realm of operations and security, not assembler programming. Sure, it impacts assembler programs and programmers, but it also impacts COBOL and Rexx programs. Catalog management affects assembler programs, but it's not documented with the GET macro. APF is a facility for identifying certain load libraries to z/OS. If an executable program is (1) stored in an APF-authorized library and (2) link-edited with AC(1) then it is said to be APF-authorized. APF-authorized programs are eligible to use certain privileged facilities of z/OS that are not available to non-APF-authorized programs. Among these facilities are the ability to switch into supervisor mode and/or storage protection key zero. The documentation for each z/OS program service generally indicates whether the service requires APF authorization. Certain services require APF authorization only for certain combinations of parameters. A service requires APF authorization if in IBM's judgment it has the potential to affect the integrity, reliability, or availability of z/OS. As an untrusted programmer can freely link edit or bind a program with AC(1), an installation can only protect these privileged facilities by using RACF or another security subsystem to control the ability to store programs into APF-authorized libraries, and also the ability to APF-authorize a load library. Everything else is a detail. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Stan Weyman Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Where is APF documented? I really have to chuckle at the question Charles since I'll wager at some point in time every person on this list has asked this same question. To date I really know of no single place where APF is outlined, explained, and/or documented other than what's in the Authorized Guide. Not the greatest but the place to start... It's easy to know how to get APF authorized. The trickier part is knowing the many ways to lose it and tricks on how to get around it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where is APF documented?
In other words we will never, EVER shoot you in the foot but will make it quite easy for you to shoot yourself. Does that about cover it? Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of J R Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: FW: Where is APF documented? Doh! I forgot the URL for the Statement of Integrity ... http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/racf/zos_integrity_statement.html Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:34:41 -0400 From: jayare...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Where is APF documented? To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 'Programmers Writing Authorized Applications: Programmers writing authorized applications (that is, APF-authorized programs) can use the RACROUTE macro to request security-related services,...'. It means, being in APF status, you can do 'privileged' things. It means that APF-authorized code *should* use RACROUTE requests and avoid doing anything privileged on behalf of users that are not defined with sufficient authority. There is also the z/OS Statement of Integrity which aludes to APF-authotization as one of the three authorized states, along with supervisor state and protection key less than 8. Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 08:01:27 -0500 From: elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za Subject: Re: Where is APF documented? To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Charles Mills wrote: Thanks. That's certainly better than anything else I found. Agreed. Chap 21 is indeed useful, but could be too technical for auditors. But I would really like a formal or fairly formal *definition* of APF authorization. This could be messy as I just found out. May I join you? ;-D Here's a way to re-phrase the question. Suppose an auditor said show me a definition of APF authorization and a statement of what it means. Where would you point him? (No smart answers please.) Look at Init and Tuna Ref. I quote this useful statement you can fire of at your auditors: 'The authorized program facility (APF) allows your installation to identify system or user programs that can use sensitive system functions.' Other useful quote from 'Assembler Services Guide': 'The authorized program facility (APF) helps your installation protect the system. APF-authorized programs can access system functions that can affect the security and integrity of the system.' Failing that, research the words 'supervisor state/status', MODESET. Other useful quote (yes, I know it is very technical), you can rewrite for brevity, from 'Security Server RACF Security Administrator's Guide': 'Programmers Writing Authorized Applications: Programmers writing authorized applications (that is, APF-authorized programs) can use the RACROUTE macro to request security-related services,...'. It means, being in APF status, you can do 'privileged' things. February 25, 2003, SHARE Session Number: 2889 is also interesting, but very technical... Does this help you? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Where is APF documented?
thank you for clarifying that Walt! g Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com EMC² (508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Where is APF documented? On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 07:34:23 -0700, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: YES! That's it! Exactly. Charles ...snipped... This looks pretty good: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2E2B0/1.6 quote The authorized program facility (APF) allows your installation to identify system or user programs that can use sensitive system functions. To be APF-authorized, programs must reside in APF-authorized libraries, and be link-edited with authorization code AC=1. The system maintains a list of APF-authorized libraries that contains the following information for each library: /quote That may have made you happy, Charles, but technically it's wrong. A program is only APF-authorized if it's running. It only becomes APF-authorized while running only if: (a) it resides in an APF-authorized library and is link-edited with AC(1) and when it's started it comes from that APF-authorized library and (some other stuff here omitted for simplicity, such as some UNIX aspects, tasklibs, etc.) -and- (a1) it's run by the initiator directly; or (a2) it's run by some other mechanism that supports starting APF-authorized programs, such as IKJEFTSR, or execmvs(), or ATTACH with RSAPF=YES; -or- (b) it resides in an APF-authorized library and it's loaded by a program already running APF-authorized. The fact that it's in an APF-authorized library and link-edited with AC(1) does not make it APF-authorized. It merely makes it possible to run APF-authorized, subject to some other conditions. The fact that it's in an APF-authorized library and -not- linked AC(1) does not make it not APF-authorized. It merely means that when it runs it won't be APF-authorized by default. But it might be APF-authorized if run by something that's already running APF-authorized. And all this ignores programs that run in supervisor state or system key, which is very closely related to running APF-authorized. But wasn't your question more about what a program running APF-authorized can do? That has a very simple answer, in a z/OS context: Basically, anythying it wants to. In the most simple terms it can issue MODESET to switch to supervisor state or system key, and that's really what APF-authorization means. But in slightly more complex terms it can also use privileged system macros that honor APF-authorization as one means of control. But the important thing is that anything it wants to. It can bypass all security in the system, access any data in the system, and hide all traces that it has done that. I'm not sure we have any documentation that says that all in one place, and little (if any) of the documentation properly distinguishes between being APF-authorized and having the capability of becoming APF-authorized. We even have (or had?) documentation in the z/OS UNIX System Services books stating that having the +a extended attribute makes a UNIX executable APF-authorized, and that's also wrong. It really means consider this program as residing in an APF-authorized library. It seems to be a hard concept to understand, and to describe properly. -- Walt Farrell IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Virginia DOT outage
There also are some fiascos that real-time backup won't guard against. such as? Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gerhard Adam Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 3:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Virginia DOT outage Having been in on a couple of recovery actions due to major files getting fouled up, I can believe that things could take up to a week. How do major files get fouled up with adequate backups? There also are some fiascos that real-time backup won't guard against. Not true. Especially when every company that does DR testing always come back proclaiming how successful the test was. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Virginia DOT outage
Any DASD device is going to eventually fail. If the data is not backed up efficiently (mirrored, physical or otherwise) and there aren't solid and, more importantly, TESTED procedures in place for when that failure does happen (the DMX-3 is an older piece of EMC hardware) then the DOT in Virginia have no one to point at other than themselves. I can sympathize if procedures in place fail but lack of procedures doesn't let them off the hook EMC has a number of DR solutions (GDDR most prominent) that would have made this failure completely invisible to the outside world. It's all a matter of how much of an investment the Virginia DOT wants to make in YOUR data's security and persistence... Regards, Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.com where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Virginia DOT outage That's my feeling also. In looking at the timeline on the Virginia Government web site, it looks like it took about 24 hours to do the full maintenance and repair of the EMC box. It was up by the morning of the next day. However, it took a week to get the data completely recovered. What took so long? What kind of backup/recovery procedures do they have in place? Tom Kelman Capacity Planning Commerce Bank, Kansas City -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gerhard Adam Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 2:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Virginia DOT outage Regardless of the cause, doesn't this say more about the disaster recovery scenario than anything else? Adam -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
BCPii and ENF
Has anyone else had the pleasure so far of trying to reverse engineer parts of IBM's BCPii implementation?? The straightforward stuff is easy to figure out and get working but the ENF68 interface is supported by no docs (a promised Info APAR has been in the works all summer). Has anyone gotten this working who might be willing to share a peek at both the ENF and HWIEVENT side of things (strictly z/OS ENF, not the OMVS side they also haven't documented). My thanks ahead of time! Regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer stan.wey...@emc.commailto:weyman_s...@emc.com EMC² *(508)249-3966 where information lives It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SMF records for data set open/close
Does anyone know of a way to prevent the cutting of SMF records for certain dataset open/close activities. We don't want to recommend use of SMFPRMxx as they want to continue cutting SMF records for other dataset names but not some. Thanks ahead of time for the assistance Stan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMF records for data set open/close
In addition to the dataset name, would I also be able to filter on the STC name as well? Thanks to all who've helped answer this question for me. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 10:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMF records for data set open/close Stan, You need to code up IEFU83/4/5 exit to suppress the SMF records being written for subsets of dataset names. Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Stan Weyman Sent: 03 August 2010 16:28 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SMF records for data set open/close Does anyone know of a way to prevent the cutting of SMF records for certain dataset open/close activities. We don't want to recommend use of SMFPRMxx as they want to continue cutting SMF records for other dataset names but not some. Thanks ahead of time for the assistance Stan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing
clever - ROTFLMAO Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer - zSeries EMC Corporation 176 South Street Hopkinton MA 01748 weyman_s...@emc.com Direct: (508)249-3966 Internal: 43966 People think computers will keep them from making mistakes. They're wrong. With computers you just make mistakes faster... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John P. Baker Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing I have a thought. D2X(196) = C4. Perhaps IBM is trying to blow up the competition. Sorry. I just could not resist. John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing I'm still trying to figure out where 196 comes from. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
available lists
Can someone point me towards a 'master' list of discussion groups, if indeed something like this exists. I'm going to check bama.ua.edu for others but I have to think others exist out there beyond the bama site. Looking for sites along the lines of IBM-MAIN but perhaps a bit more specialized (IBM hardware, BCPii, HMC, etc). Thanks, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer - zSeries EMC Corporation 176 South Street Hopkinton MA 01748 weyman_s...@emc.com Direct: (508)249-3966 Internal: 43966 People think computers will keep them from making mistakes. They're wrong. With computers you just make mistakes faster... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: available lists
specifically I was looking for someone else who's gotten into using the new BCPii interface for HMC management now in z/OS 1.11 (and back level via distributable to 1.10). There are aspects about it that I'm not completely familiar with and was looking for some assistance. Haven't heard anything so I thought there might be someplace more specific to the hardware issues where I could try. I've been attached to the forum on and off for the past 10+ years and it's a good one but can sometimes have a little too much information to wade through. Thanks for the response Lizette. I can tell you it's honestly appreciated!! Best regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer - zSeries EMC Corporation 176 South Street Hopkinton MA 01748 weyman_s...@emc.com Direct: (508)249-3966 Internal: 43966 People think computers will keep them from making mistakes. They're wrong. With computers you just make mistakes faster... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: available lists Do you have specific areas you are interested in? There are newsgroups for just about everything mainframe or distributed. IBM Main is a fairly broad area of interests and covers the elements you are looking for (BCPii, HMC, etc..). I am not currently aware of specific newsgroups for those areas. Nor do I know of anything specific to hardware only. However, IBM Main will cover most of that. However there are newsgroups for JES2, JES3, ISPF, TSO-REXX, IMS, CICS, MQ, MVS/OE, PL/I, COBOL, C (all forms), LINUX, etc... If you have a more specific question, please let us know. Lizette Can someone point me towards a 'master' list of discussion groups, if indeed something like this exists. I'm going to check bama.ua.edu for others but I have to think others exist out there beyond the bama site. Looking for sites along the lines of IBM-MAIN but perhaps a bit more specialized (IBM hardware, BCPii, HMC, etc). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: available lists
thanks Mark! Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer - zSeries EMC Corporation 176 South Street Hopkinton MA 01748 weyman_s...@emc.com Direct: (508)249-3966 Internal: 43966 People think computers will keep them from making mistakes. They're wrong. With computers you just make mistakes faster... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark T. Regan, K8MTR Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: available lists http://www.lsoft.com/catalist.htm The master list of LISTSERVs is at http://www.lsoft.com/catalist.html Thanks, Mark Regan From: Stan Weyman weyman_s...@emc.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 10:54:55 AM Subject: available lists Can someone point me towards a 'master' list of discussion groups, if indeed something like this exists. I'm going to check bama.ua.edu for others but I have to think others exist out there beyond the bama site. Looking for sites along the lines of IBM-MAIN but perhaps a bit more specialized (IBM hardware, BCPii, HMC, etc). Thanks, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer - zSeries EMC Corporation 176 South Street Hopkinton MA 01748 weyman_s...@emc.com Direct: (508)249-3966 Internal: 43966 People think computers will keep them from making mistakes. They're wrong. With computers you just make mistakes faster... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: available lists
thanks to you too Ed! Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer - zSeries EMC Corporation 176 South Street Hopkinton MA 01748 weyman_s...@emc.com Direct: (508)249-3966 Internal: 43966 People think computers will keep them from making mistakes. They're wrong. With computers you just make mistakes faster... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: available lists In a message dated 7/23/2010 10:17:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, netsfw-ibmm...@yahoo.com writes: http://www.lsoft.com/catalist.html Thanks, Thanks for errata. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: available lists
Steve did a great job with his share session (I've read it). I won't be able to do Share this time around but appreciate the suggestion none the less. IBM dropped the ball on the documentation by not only not including things that should have been in the Callable Service Guide but also putting in things that were just plain wrong. Version 1.0 blues all over again g Regards, Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer - zSeries EMC Corporation 176 South Street Hopkinton MA 01748 weyman_s...@emc.com Direct: (508)249-3966 Internal: 43966 People think computers will keep them from making mistakes. They're wrong. With computers you just make mistakes faster... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: available lists In a message dated 7/23/2010 12:11:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, weyman_s...@emc.com writes: Haven't heard anything so I thought there might be someplace more specific to the hardware issues where I could try. I've been attached to the forum on and off for the past 10+ years and it's a good one but can sometimes have a little too much information to wade through. The upcoming SHARE in Boston might give some clarification. Just a quick session search at _www.share.org_ (http://www.share.org) reveals this update: BCPii for Dummies by Steve Warren of IBM. The abstract mentions going forward to 1.12 but not backwards. They usually have a QA time permitting. http://share.confex.com/share/115/webprogram/Session7543.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?
POPS for the Z196 is not there yet. Just a handful there now (CHPID Mapping, Install Manual, PS/SM Guide, etc Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer - zSeries EMC Corporation 176 South Street Hopkinton MA 01748 weyman_s...@emc.com Direct: (508)249-3966 Internal: 43966 People think computers will keep them from making mistakes. They're wrong. With computers you just make mistakes faster... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS? According to the product announcement: The following publications will be available at planned availability in the *Library* section of Resource Link: Application Programming Interfaces for Java (API-JAVA)Application Programming Interfaces (SB10-7030)Capacity on Demand User's Guide (SC28-2605)Common Information Model (CIM) Management Interface (SB10-7154)Hardware Management Console Operations Guide (V2.11.0) (SC28-6895)Parts Catalog (GC28-6898)SCSI IPL - Machine Loader Messages (SC28-6839)Service Guide for HMCs and SEs (GC28-6861)Stand-Alone IOCP User's Guide (SB10-7152)Support Element Operations Guide (V2.11.0) (SC28-6896)OSA-Express Customer's Guide and Reference (SA22-7935)OSA-Express3 Integrated Console Controller Dual-Port User's Guide (SC23-2266)Coupling Links I/O Interface Physical Layer (SA23-0395)ESCON and FICON CTC Reference (SB10-7034)ESCON I/O Interface Physical Layer (SA23-0394)Fiber Optic Cleaning Procedures (SY27-2604)Fibre Channel Connection (FICON) I/O Interface Physical Layer (SA24-7172)Maintenance Information for Fiber Optic Links (SY27-2597)Planning for Fiber Optic Links (GA23-0367)z/Architecture Principles of Operation (SA22-7832)z/Architecture Reference Summary (SA22-7871) On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:25 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I was reading the new Redpiece about the zEnterprise. It had a section which stated the z196 has 110 new instructions in the following catagories: High-word facility Interlocked-access facility Load/Store on condition facility Distinct operands facility Integer to/from floating point conversions PER zero address detect Decimal floating point quantum exceptions New crypto functions and modes Virtual architectural level Non-quiescing SSKe Anybody know if a new PoPS documenting these exists anywhere? John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Rich Smrcina Velocity Software, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
New BCPii interface for z/OS 1.11 (and 1.10)
Has anyone else delved into using the new BCPii interface for HMC management. The IBM documentation in the Callable Services Guide leaves a LOT to be desired. It appears the HWICMD interface (which is where most of us are going to be spending our time) is an ASYNCHRONOUS interface and IBM expects the use of another BCPii call (HWIEVENT) along with a customer written ENF routine to get the return codes and responses from the CMD calls. Has anyone worked with this yet and hit any serious problems? I have a set of API routines written to use each of the interfaces (LIST, QUERY, SET, CMD, CONN, DISC) and am going to have to add this ENF processing to be sure the CMD interface is working properly. My ENF knowledge is a not as good as I'd likeyet... Any assistance/insight would be greatly appreciated Stan Stan Weyman Senior Software Engineer - zSeries EMC Corporation 176 South Street Hopkinton MA 01748 weyman_s...@emc.com mailto:weyman_s...@emc.com Direct: (508)249-3966 Internal: 43966 There are two kinds of people, those who do the work and those who take the credit. Try to be in the first group; there is less competition there... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z/OS-MVS Control Block Layout - Offsets
Hi there, At one time I had a cheat sheet holding the control blocks, their offsets from other control blocks, fields and offsets to help when traversing through IPCS. I've searched and can't seem to find it again. Does anyone have a text, PDF or whatever file that shows the MVS control block layout, offset, fields, relation to other control blocks, etc that is somewhat current? I'm working with z/OS 1.9 right now. Thanks as always for any help. Regards, Stan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
