Re: Ziip on Z9 BC running on z/OS 1.9
Every LPAR on your z9BC has a profile which defines it's resources. Such as how much memory it has and the number of CPs it can use. Another of the resources is how many zIIP engines it can use (likewise for zAAP engines). You need to edit the LPAR definition to include zIIP engines. This is done from the HMC. Don't ask me how, if you don't know, I don't want to be responsible. Anyway, once you've done that, you must take down z/OS in that LPAR, deactivate the LPAR to release it's profile and resourses, then activate the LPAR with the updated profile to include the changes (this would be true to increase the number of CPs or the memory size too). Once successfully activated, you can reIPL z/OS in the LPAR. On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 09:46 +0300, Azim Syed wrote: Dear All, I enable Ziip on our machine but I can see it active on any LPAR , do I have to do something on HCM console please help. Azimuddin Syed System Software Support Saudi Arabian Airlines Jeddah Saudi Arabia -- John McKown Maranatha! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Ziip on Z9 BC running on z/OS 1.9
Dear All, I enable Ziip on our machine but I can see it active on any LPAR , do I have to do something on HCM console please help. Azimuddin Syed System Software Support Saudi Arabian Airlines Jeddah Saudi Arabia -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
In a90766b5039c59409110c92d47216f5905835...@s1flokydce2k322.dm0001.info53.com, on 10/06/2011 at 02:00 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com said: And it's not like MSM is a light-weight product either, with ZFS file systems, Are you saying that it won't work with HFS? While I understand that zFS is IBM's stated direction, aren't there still issues with it? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
Sorry, no, It should work with HFS. I was using that as a generic term for requiring USS support. g,d r. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 1:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 In A90766B5039C59409110C92D47216F5905835260@s1flokydce2k322.dm0001.info53. com, on 10/06/2011 at 02:00 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com said: And it's not like MSM is a light-weight product either, with ZFS file systems, Are you saying that it won't work with HFS? While I understand that zFS is IBM's stated direction, aren't there still issues with it? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:18:55 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In a90766b5039c59409110c92d47216f5905835...@s1flokydce2k322.dm0001.info53.com, on 10/06/2011 at 02:00 PM, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com said: And it's not like MSM is a light-weight product either, with ZFS file systems, Are you saying that it won't work with HFS? I don't see why it wouldn't. The application doesn't know the difference. While I understand that zFS is IBM's stated direction, aren't there still issues with it? Issues with it is extremely vague. HFS is stabilized. zFS far out performance in most cases and RAS is much better. Are you thinking of PDSE? g,d, r Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
In 3312735105136745.wa.markmzelden@bama.ua.edu, on 10/07/2011 at 01:15 PM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com said: Are you thinking of PDSE? I wasn't. Thanks for reminding me :-( -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
On 10/6/2011 8:10 AM, Silvio Camplani wrote: The release notes for MSM v4 say z/OS 1.10 is required. This seems to be because IBM supports current-2... The current release is z/OS 1.13. z/OS 1.9 is four releases back -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
The release notes for MSM v4 say z/OS 1.10 is required. This seems to be because IBM supports current-2... Is anyone running MSM v4 on a pre z/OS 1.10 lpar? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
with MSM there was a conscious decision to follow IBM support policies, which makes sense if you think about it. I have no idea whether anyone is running it in an unsupported config. I would point out that if a vendor says release X is required, it usually means just that. You can go off and do your own thing (of course) but you should not expect too much sympathy from the vendor if your way doesn't work. CC Sent from my iPad On Oct 6, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Silvio Camplani sysp...@silvio.fastmail.fm wrote: The release notes for MSM v4 say z/OS 1.10 is required. This seems to be because IBM supports current-2... Is anyone running MSM v4 on a pre z/OS 1.10 lpar? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
Speaking of MSM, and having Mr, Craddock responding It sure would be nice if there were a happy medium between doing nothing, and installing/using MSM. It would be *really* nice if CA implemented their own order server to support SMPE RECEIVE ORDER. Jumping into MSM is not a small task, and I'm not convinced that it isn't a net increase in labor using it vs, RYO method for maintenance today... _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Craddock Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 with MSM there was a conscious decision to follow IBM support policies, which makes sense if you think about it. I have no idea whether anyone is running it in an unsupported config. I would point out that if a vendor says release X is required, it usually means just that. You can go off and do your own thing (of course) but you should not expect too much sympathy from the vendor if your way doesn't work. CC Sent from my iPad On Oct 6, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Silvio Camplani sysp...@silvio.fastmail.fm wrote: The release notes for MSM v4 say z/OS 1.10 is required. This seems to be because IBM supports current-2... Is anyone running MSM v4 on a pre z/OS 1.10 lpar? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
I guess you could count me as one of those people who was an extreme skeptic about MSM. However, after installing 3 and upgrading to 4, it really is a time saver, as advertised. Maybe not so much if you only a couple CA products, but we have many. The Datacom guys love it. And the only drawback I can even think of is the explosion of zfs files. Give it a shot. It's definitely worth it. Mary Anne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
Actually, MSM V4 is really great for downloading new Products or new releases of Products or Maintenance for Products and then installing them. For me, it has really speeded things up for getting new releases or maintenance on current releases on. Not to mention, the ability to deploy those products to another site in your company. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email:jim_peter...@homedepot.com 512-977-2615 direct 512-977-2930 fax 210-859-9887 cell phone -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 Speaking of MSM, and having Mr, Craddock responding It sure would be nice if there were a happy medium between doing nothing, and installing/using MSM. It would be *really* nice if CA implemented their own order server to support SMPE RECEIVE ORDER. Jumping into MSM is not a small task, and I'm not convinced that it isn't a net increase in labor using it vs, RYO method for maintenance today... _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Craddock Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 with MSM there was a conscious decision to follow IBM support policies, which makes sense if you think about it. I have no idea whether anyone is running it in an unsupported config. I would point out that if a vendor says release X is required, it usually means just that. You can go off and do your own thing (of course) but you should not expect too much sympathy from the vendor if your way doesn't work. CC Sent from my iPad On Oct 6, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Silvio Camplani sysp...@silvio.fastmail.fm wrote: The release notes for MSM v4 say z/OS 1.10 is required. This seems to be because IBM supports current-2... Is anyone running MSM v4 on a pre z/OS 1.10 lpar? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information in this Internet Email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this Email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this Email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing The Home Depot terms of business or client engagement letter. The Home Depot disclaims all responsibility and liability for the accuracy and content of this attachment and for any damages or losses arising from any inaccuracies, errors, viruses, e.g., worms, trojan horses, etc., or other items of a destructive nature, which may be contained in this attachment and shall not be liable for direct, indirect, consequential or special damages in connection with this e-mail message ! or its attachment. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
We just licensed a new CA product, and I thought it might be a good time to look at bringing in MSM to install it. I spent about half a day downloading MSM, and looking at the installation process. Seemed like it would be a while before MSM was up and doing productive work, and a bit overkill for out CA product set (10 products), so I abandoned MSM and spent less than an hour downloading and installing the new product and current maintenance for it. Just how much time can it save? Not trashing the product, just looking for real world experiences. If I can install a new product in less than an hour, how much time can MSM save me? Tom Chicklon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Petersen Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 Actually, MSM V4 is really great for downloading new Products or new releases of Products or Maintenance for Products and then installing them. For me, it has really speeded things up for getting new releases or maintenance on current releases on. Not to mention, the ability to deploy those products to another site in your company. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email:jim_peter...@homedepot.com 512-977-2615 direct 512-977-2930 fax 210-859-9887 cell phone -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 Speaking of MSM, and having Mr, Craddock responding It sure would be nice if there were a happy medium between doing nothing, and installing/using MSM. It would be *really* nice if CA implemented their own order server to support SMPE RECEIVE ORDER. Jumping into MSM is not a small task, and I'm not convinced that it isn't a net increase in labor using it vs, RYO method for maintenance today... _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Craddock Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 with MSM there was a conscious decision to follow IBM support policies, which makes sense if you think about it. I have no idea whether anyone is running it in an unsupported config. I would point out that if a vendor says release X is required, it usually means just that. You can go off and do your own thing (of course) but you should not expect too much sympathy from the vendor if your way doesn't work. CC Sent from my iPad On Oct 6, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Silvio Camplani sysp...@silvio.fastmail.fm wrote: The release notes for MSM v4 say z/OS 1.10 is required. This seems to be because IBM supports current-2... Is anyone running MSM v4 on a pre z/OS 1.10 lpar? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information in this Internet Email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this Email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this Email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in any applicable governing The Home Depot terms of business or client engagement letter. The Home Depot
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
Jim, You see that's the problem. I really don't want to install another product, just to help maintain the others. Just another product to keep current. Honestly, the biggest hassle is just finding the maintenance and downloading it. And at that, not a huge problem that I need to have another piece of software to do it. And it's not like MSM is a light-weight product either, with ZFS file systems, STc's, etc all needed just run it. Nothing is easier than running a SMPE receive order. Even if CA just had a FTP site that I could access directly and download and then receive the maintenance for each product I would be happy. We already have a process/method to deploy updates, so that doesn't buy me anything. We only touch a product once per year(unless a fix is needed for a problem). _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Petersen Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 Actually, MSM V4 is really great for downloading new Products or new releases of Products or Maintenance for Products and then installing them. For me, it has really speeded things up for getting new releases or maintenance on current releases on. Not to mention, the ability to deploy those products to another site in your company. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email:jim_peter...@homedepot.com 512-977-2615 direct 512-977-2930 fax 210-859-9887 cell phone This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
Speaking of MSM, and having Mr, Craddock responding It sure would be nice if there were a happy medium between doing nothing, and installing/using MSM. It would be *really* nice if CA implemented their own order server to support SMPE RECEIVE ORDER. Jumping into MSM is not a small task, and I'm not convinced that it isn't a net increase in labor using it vs, RYO method for maintenance today... _ Dave Jousma Dave, I support your point. MSM does remove the need to setup FTP jobs and UNPAX functions to download and install a CA product. However, the interface itself is inefficient. I spend way to much time in the following 1) Going to and from the SOFTWARE CATALOG tab to SMPE TAB to Task History tab to install fixes or products. 2) Sitting there until the PLEASE WAIT goes away. 3) Trying to remember if it is the SOFTWARE CATALOG Tab or the SMPE Tab where I can load external fixes (all of the APARs I get have to go this way. I did get a brief look at IBM's z/OSMF product as Share. I think the interface is a lot cleaner and less likely to confuse you when you need to do work. But that is based on how the Demo worked. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
Well . For CA-IDMS that's exactly what I do (we do not have MSM yet installed, but even if we did - I would first want to non-MSM install a product, then a MSM install and compare the results) I put in a request - CA spits me back a from path, and I FTP the pax file directly to the mainframe, unpack and unload - and I am ready to install just as if it had been delivered on tape! Is IDMS the only CA product that allows this choice of acquisition ? I hope not Chris Hoelscher IDMS DB2 Database Administrator 502-476-2538 You only need to test the programs you don't want to get called on later -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 Jim, You see that's the problem. I really don't want to install another product, just to help maintain the others. Just another product to keep current. Honestly, the biggest hassle is just finding the maintenance and downloading it. And at that, not a huge problem that I need to have another piece of software to do it. And it's not like MSM is a light-weight product either, with ZFS file systems, STc's, etc all needed just run it. Nothing is easier than running a SMPE receive order. Even if CA just had a FTP site that I could access directly and download and then receive the maintenance for each product I would be happy. We already have a process/method to deploy updates, so that doesn't buy me anything. We only touch a product once per year(unless a fix is needed for a problem). _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Petersen Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 Actually, MSM V4 is really great for downloading new Products or new releases of Products or Maintenance for Products and then installing them. For me, it has really speeded things up for getting new releases or maintenance on current releases on. Not to mention, the ability to deploy those products to another site in your company. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email:jim_peter...@homedepot.com 512-977-2615 direct 512-977-2930 fax 210-859-9887 cell phone This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
The last time I installed ACF2 R15 I looked at the MSM install and the SMP install. Guess which one I chose. Mark Jacobs From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Chris Hoelscher [choelsc...@humana.com] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 5:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 Well . For CA-IDMS that's exactly what I do (we do not have MSM yet installed, but even if we did - I would first want to non-MSM install a product, then a MSM install and compare the results) I put in a request - CA spits me back a from path, and I FTP the pax file directly to the mainframe, unpack and unload - and I am ready to install just as if it had been delivered on tape! Is IDMS the only CA product that allows this choice of acquisition ? I hope not Chris Hoelscher IDMS DB2 Database Administrator 502-476-2538 You only need to test the programs you don't want to get called on later -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 Jim, You see that's the problem. I really don't want to install another product, just to help maintain the others. Just another product to keep current. Honestly, the biggest hassle is just finding the maintenance and downloading it. And at that, not a huge problem that I need to have another piece of software to do it. And it's not like MSM is a light-weight product either, with ZFS file systems, STc's, etc all needed just run it. Nothing is easier than running a SMPE receive order. Even if CA just had a FTP site that I could access directly and download and then receive the maintenance for each product I would be happy. We already have a process/method to deploy updates, so that doesn't buy me anything. We only touch a product once per year(unless a fix is needed for a problem). _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Petersen Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 Actually, MSM V4 is really great for downloading new Products or new releases of Products or Maintenance for Products and then installing them. For me, it has really speeded things up for getting new releases or maintenance on current releases on. Not to mention, the ability to deploy those products to another site in your company. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email:jim_peter...@homedepot.com 512-977-2615 direct 512-977-2930 fax 210-859-9887 cell phone This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9
Most of the CA products are now shipped in Enhanced ESD format, you can download them from the CA Support web site, of course with registered userid. Those product downloaded files are in the format of *.pax.Z, you have to shoot it up to the USS dir, and then use GMUNZIP to unpax it to MVS SMPE install datasets. Regards Lim ML On 07/10/11 5:21 AM, Chris Hoelscher wrote: Well . For CA-IDMS that's exactly what I do (we do not have MSM yet installed, but even if we did - I would first want to non-MSM install a product, then a MSM install and compare the results) I put in a request - CA spits me back a from path, and I FTP the pax file directly to the mainframe, unpack and unload - and I am ready to install just as if it had been delivered on tape! Is IDMS the only CA product that allows this choice of acquisition ? I hope not Chris Hoelscher IDMS DB2 Database Administrator 502-476-2538 You only need to test the programs you don't want to get called on later -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 Jim, You see that's the problem. I really don't want to install another product, just to help maintain the others. Just another product to keep current. Honestly, the biggest hassle is just finding the maintenance and downloading it. And at that, not a huge problem that I need to have another piece of software to do it. And it's not like MSM is a light-weight product either, with ZFS file systems, STc's, etc all needed just run it. Nothing is easier than running a SMPE receive order. Even if CA just had a FTP site that I could access directly and download and then receive the maintenance for each product I would be happy. We already have a process/method to deploy updates, so that doesn't buy me anything. We only touch a product once per year(unless a fix is needed for a problem). _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Petersen Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 1:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA MSM v4 on z/os 1.9 Actually, MSM V4 is really great for downloading new Products or new releases of Products or Maintenance for Products and then installing them. For me, it has really speeded things up for getting new releases or maintenance on current releases on. Not to mention, the ability to deploy those products to another site in your company. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depot Technology Center 1300 Park Center Drive, Austin, TX 78753 www.homedepot.com email:jim_peter...@homedepot.com 512-977-2615 direct 512-977-2930 fax 210-859-9887 cell phone This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Mellon Mods for z/OS 1.9 thru 1.12 available
Hi Folks, Steve McColley, who has been supporting the Mellon Mods to JES2 up until now, has come up with updates to the Mellon Mods for z/OS 1.12, which also work on JES2 releases back until at least 1.10. This version of the Mellon Mods can be found at www.cbttape.org on the Updates page, on File 856. There is an SMP/E install, and a non-SMP/E install. All the best of everything to all of you. Sincerely,Sam -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
I checked my UTILITY ENTRY LKED and it has HIGHEST RETURN CODE,===,4 but my SMPE says: MAX ACCEPTABLE RC=0 There are three possible sources for the maximum acceptable return code for a load module, used in this order: 1) RETURN CODE subentry in the LMOD entry. Gleaned from the JCLIN if specified, this value is stored in the LMOD entry and used whenever the subject load module is link edited. In this situation, LMOD IEAVNPF9 does indeed have a RETURN CODE subentry of 0 as defined in its JCLIN, hence you see the comment MAX ACCEPTABLE RC=0 in the link edit control statement output. 2) RETURN CODE subentry in the UTILITY entry. Defined by you, usually with recommendations from the software vendor (for z/OS IBM recommends RC=4). Remember the active UTILITY entry is identified by the active OPTIONS entry, and the active OPTIONS entry is either specified on the SET command or defined in the TZONE entry as the default OPTIONS entry to use for that target zone. 3) SMP/E's default link edit return code. The default value is 8, which is used only if a value was not found in the LMOD entry or the active UTILITY entry. Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
I am up the creek without a paddle. We are still on z/OS 1.9 and are going
to z 10 processor. There is a PSP bucket for the z10
that includes UA48080 and UA49199. When SMPE tries to apply these two I
get the following:
BATCH EMULATOR JOB(SYSJCNSM) STEP(S1 ) PGM= HEWLH096
IEW2322I 1220 65ENTRY IXCINRIM
IEW2322I 1220 66INCLUDE SMPWRK3(IXCI2PRM) UA48080 SEQ #
IEW2322I 1220 67 IDENTIFY IXCI2PRM('UA48080')
IEW2322I 1220 68 SETSSI 01118080
IEW2322I 1220 69INCLUDE SMPWRK3(IXCI2RIM) UA49199
IEW2322I 1220 70 IDENTIFY IXCI2RIM('UA49199')
IEW2322I 1220 71 SETSSI 01119199
IEW2322I 1220 72INCLUDE NUCLEUS(IEAVNPF9)
IEW2322I 1220 73NAME IEAVNPF9(R) MAX ACCEPTABLE
RC=0
IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL IXCMIFNP UNRESOLVED. NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.
Any suggestions as to how I can get passed this error?
John Norgauer
Senior Systems Programmer
Mainframe Technical Support Services
University of California Davis Medical Center
2315 Stockton Blvd
ASB 1300
Sacramento, Ca 95817
916-734-0536
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Re: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
There are some more messages in the SMPLOG that will give you more info.
Does SMPLOG indicate a failure.
Also, read the PTF descriptions in your SMPPTS. There is most likely an
hold (action, uclin) on one or more of the PTF's.
IIRC, an unresolved reference with NCAL will always generate an RC=4
(which I would consider acceptable), even for a nucleus link.
Where does SMP think module IXCMIFNP is supposed to live? Is this in
your SMP utility entry for the Binder?
HTH,
Al Staller | Z Systems Programmer | KBM Group | (Tel) 972 664 3565 |
allan.stal...@kbmg.com
snip
I am up the creek without a paddle. We are still on z/OS 1.9 and are
going
to z 10 processor. There is a PSP bucket for the z10
that includes UA48080 and UA49199. When SMPE tries to apply these two I
get the following:
BATCH EMULATOR JOB(SYSJCNSM) STEP(S1 ) PGM= HEWLH096
IEW2322I 1220 65ENTRY IXCINRIM
IEW2322I 1220 66INCLUDE SMPWRK3(IXCI2PRM) UA48080 SEQ
#
IEW2322I 1220 67 IDENTIFY IXCI2PRM('UA48080')
IEW2322I 1220 68 SETSSI 01118080
IEW2322I 1220 69INCLUDE SMPWRK3(IXCI2RIM) UA49199
IEW2322I 1220 70 IDENTIFY IXCI2RIM('UA49199')
IEW2322I 1220 71 SETSSI 01119199
IEW2322I 1220 72INCLUDE NUCLEUS(IEAVNPF9)
IEW2322I 1220 73NAME IEAVNPF9(R) MAX
ACCEPTABLE
RC=0
IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL IXCMIFNP UNRESOLVED. NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.
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Re: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
A number of 'normal' situations can lead to RC 4 from link edit. I suggest
setting GLOBAL UTILITY LKED to allow RETURN CODE 4. Anything higher than 4
should be considered a problem.
.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
From: Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: 07/15/2011 08:41 AM
Subject:Re: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS
1.9
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There are some more messages in the SMPLOG that will give you more info.
Does SMPLOG indicate a failure.
Also, read the PTF descriptions in your SMPPTS. There is most likely an
hold (action, uclin) on one or more of the PTF's.
IIRC, an unresolved reference with NCAL will always generate an RC=4
(which I would consider acceptable), even for a nucleus link.
Where does SMP think module IXCMIFNP is supposed to live? Is this in
your SMP utility entry for the Binder?
HTH,
Al Staller | Z Systems Programmer | KBM Group | (Tel) 972 664 3565 |
allan.stal...@kbmg.com
snip
I am up the creek without a paddle. We are still on z/OS 1.9 and are
going
to z 10 processor. There is a PSP bucket for the z10
that includes UA48080 and UA49199. When SMPE tries to apply these two I
get the following:
BATCH EMULATOR JOB(SYSJCNSM) STEP(S1 ) PGM= HEWLH096
IEW2322I 1220 65ENTRY IXCINRIM
IEW2322I 1220 66INCLUDE SMPWRK3(IXCI2PRM) UA48080 SEQ
#
IEW2322I 1220 67 IDENTIFY IXCI2PRM('UA48080')
IEW2322I 1220 68 SETSSI 01118080
IEW2322I 1220 69INCLUDE SMPWRK3(IXCI2RIM) UA49199
IEW2322I 1220 70 IDENTIFY IXCI2RIM('UA49199')
IEW2322I 1220 71 SETSSI 01119199
IEW2322I 1220 72INCLUDE NUCLEUS(IEAVNPF9)
IEW2322I 1220 73NAME IEAVNPF9(R) MAX
ACCEPTABLE
RC=0
IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL IXCMIFNP UNRESOLVED. NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.
/snip
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Re: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
Missing a SYSLIB ??.
Kind Regards
Jim Thomas
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636-294-1014(res)
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Of John Norgauer
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:18 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
I am up the creek without a paddle. We are still on z/OS 1.9 and are going
to z 10 processor. There is a PSP bucket for the z10
that includes UA48080 and UA49199. When SMPE tries to apply these two I
get the following:
BATCH EMULATOR JOB(SYSJCNSM) STEP(S1 ) PGM= HEWLH096
IEW2322I 1220 65ENTRY IXCINRIM
IEW2322I 1220 66INCLUDE SMPWRK3(IXCI2PRM) UA48080 SEQ #
IEW2322I 1220 67 IDENTIFY IXCI2PRM('UA48080')
IEW2322I 1220 68 SETSSI 01118080
IEW2322I 1220 69INCLUDE SMPWRK3(IXCI2RIM) UA49199
IEW2322I 1220 70 IDENTIFY IXCI2RIM('UA49199')
IEW2322I 1220 71 SETSSI 01119199
IEW2322I 1220 72INCLUDE NUCLEUS(IEAVNPF9)
IEW2322I 1220 73NAME IEAVNPF9(R) MAX ACCEPTABLE
RC=0
IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL IXCMIFNP UNRESOLVED. NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.
Any suggestions as to how I can get passed this error?
John Norgauer
Senior Systems Programmer
Mainframe Technical Support Services
University of California Davis Medical Center
2315 Stockton Blvd
ASB 1300
Sacramento, Ca 95817
916-734-0536
SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004
Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon
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Re: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
No info in the HOLD data or the SMPLOG. John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004 Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
I checked my UTILITY ENTRY LKED and it has HIGHEST RETURN CODE,===,4 but my SMPE says: MAX ACCEPTABLE RC=0 John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004 Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
Be sure that your specified (or default) OPTIONS entry points to the UTILITY entry by name. Sounds like there's a disconnect. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com From: John Norgauer john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 07/15/2011 09:46 AM Subject:Re: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu I checked my UTILITY ENTRY LKED and it has HIGHEST RETURN CODE,===,4 but my SMPE says: MAX ACCEPTABLE RC=0 John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004 Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:17:54 -0700, John Norgauer wrote: I am up the creek without a paddle. We are still on z/OS 1.9 and are going to z 10 processor. There is a PSP bucket for the z10 that includes UA48080 and UA49199. When SMPE tries to apply these two I get the following: Any suggestions as to how I can get passed this error? Check the SYSMOD STATUS REPORT in SMPRPT. What's the status and the causer for UA48080 UA49199? Another (failing) PTF (UA44164?) could be the root cause. IXCMIFNP is an entry in MOD IXCM2FNP. Norbert Friemel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
SYSLIB is not used if NCAL is specified.
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Missing a SYSLIB ??.
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636-294-1014(res)
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Behalf
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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:18 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
I am up the creek without a paddle. We are still on z/OS 1.9 and are going
to z 10 processor. There is a PSP bucket for the z10
that includes UA48080 and UA49199. When SMPE tries to apply these two I
get the following:
BATCH EMULATOR JOB(SYSJCNSM) STEP(S1 ) PGM= HEWLH096
IEW2322I 1220 65ENTRY IXCINRIM
IEW2322I 1220 66INCLUDE SMPWRK3(IXCI2PRM) UA48080 SEQ #
IEW2322I 1220 67 IDENTIFY IXCI2PRM('UA48080')
IEW2322I 1220 68 SETSSI 01118080
IEW2322I 1220 69INCLUDE SMPWRK3(IXCI2RIM) UA49199
IEW2322I 1220 70 IDENTIFY IXCI2RIM('UA49199')
IEW2322I 1220 71 SETSSI 01119199
IEW2322I 1220 72INCLUDE NUCLEUS(IEAVNPF9)
IEW2322I 1220 73NAME IEAVNPF9(R) MAX ACCEPTABLE
RC=0
IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL IXCMIFNP UNRESOLVED. NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.
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Re: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
Oops ... sorry.
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SYSLIB is not used if NCAL is specified.
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Missing a SYSLIB ??.
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Subject: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
I am up the creek without a paddle. We are still on z/OS 1.9 and are going
to z 10 processor. There is a PSP bucket for the z10
that includes UA48080 and UA49199. When SMPE tries to apply these two I
get the following:
BATCH EMULATOR JOB(SYSJCNSM) STEP(S1 ) PGM= HEWLH096
IEW2322I 1220 65ENTRY IXCINRIM
IEW2322I 1220 66INCLUDE SMPWRK3(IXCI2PRM) UA48080 SEQ #
IEW2322I 1220 67 IDENTIFY IXCI2PRM('UA48080')
IEW2322I 1220 68 SETSSI 01118080
IEW2322I 1220 69INCLUDE SMPWRK3(IXCI2RIM) UA49199
IEW2322I 1220 70 IDENTIFY IXCI2RIM('UA49199')
IEW2322I 1220 71 SETSSI 01119199
IEW2322I 1220 72INCLUDE NUCLEUS(IEAVNPF9)
IEW2322I 1220 73NAME IEAVNPF9(R) MAX ACCEPTABLE
RC=0
IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL IXCMIFNP UNRESOLVED. NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.
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Re: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
Sorry ... hit 'send' by mistake.
My previous reply was meant to state ...
Oops ... sorry .. meant to be INCLUDE (with the correct SYSLIB).
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SYSLIB is not used if NCAL is specified.
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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 9:07 AM
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Subject: Re: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
Missing a SYSLIB ??.
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636-294-1014(res)
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Subject: need help trying to apply PSP bucket ptf's for z/OS 1.9
I am up the creek without a paddle. We are still on z/OS 1.9 and are going
to z 10 processor. There is a PSP bucket for the z10
that includes UA48080 and UA49199. When SMPE tries to apply these two I
get the following:
BATCH EMULATOR JOB(SYSJCNSM) STEP(S1 ) PGM= HEWLH096
IEW2322I 1220 65ENTRY IXCINRIM
IEW2322I 1220 66INCLUDE SMPWRK3(IXCI2PRM) UA48080 SEQ #
IEW2322I 1220 67 IDENTIFY IXCI2PRM('UA48080')
IEW2322I 1220 68 SETSSI 01118080
IEW2322I 1220 69INCLUDE SMPWRK3(IXCI2RIM) UA49199
IEW2322I 1220 70 IDENTIFY IXCI2RIM('UA49199')
IEW2322I 1220 71 SETSSI 01119199
IEW2322I 1220 72INCLUDE NUCLEUS(IEAVNPF9)
IEW2322I 1220 73NAME IEAVNPF9(R) MAX ACCEPTABLE
RC=0
IEW2454W 9203 SYMBOL IXCMIFNP UNRESOLVED. NO AUTOCALL (NCAL) SPECIFIED.
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Re: z/OS 1.9 to 1.12 options
We are in the same situation (on 1.9 and want to get to 1.12). After some research I found that there was really no compat maintenance from 1.11 to 1.12, so we just put on the compat maint for 1.9 to 1.10 and 1.9 to 1.11 and we're currently trying the upgrade to 1.12. So far there have been no issues and with our simple setup I think we should be fine. We are also a simple monoplex. I would probably not try this upgrade if we were any kind of multi-system sysplex. C. Todd Burrell PMP, MCSE 2003:Security MCITP: Enterprise Administrator MCITP: Enterprise Desktop Admin 7 Security+, Network+ ITIL V3 Foundations CSC Lead z/OS Systems Programmer ITSO (404) 723-2017 (Cell) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 3:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS 1.9 to 1.12 options Johnston, Robert E wrote: Short version... We are running z/OS 1.9 and do not have a 1.10 or 1.11 system to install. I'd like to install a 1.12 Serverpac on the road back to being supported. I know about the n+2 rule but how do I get out of this pickle? I'm not talking about toleration and coexistence, just a driving system to install 1.12. We are a pretty simple monoplex. Shopz has a driving system that can be ordered. Is this a good approach? I would like to use our 1.9 system to install 1.12. The 1.12 doc says you must have at least 1.10. Does anyone know if 1.9 will work for the Serverpac install? Are there any other options that I may not know about? (of course, it can't cost a lot of money ;) snip z/OS R10 is the lowest supported release of z/OS, at least for a few more months. While z/OS R9 might or might not work for installing z/OS R12, we didn't test it and won't support it if there is a problem. It would be safest to order a Customized Offerings Driver (5751-COD), IPL it in a test LPAR, and use it to install R12. Having a system available that meets the driving system requirements for the current release is one of the two reasons we have a COD. If you intend to try installing R12 using R9, you might consider ordering the COD as a backup, so if there is a problem you won't have to wait for another order. The price is right (there is no additional charge if you have a z/OS license). Current information on the COD is in z/OS Planning for Installation topic 3.1, What is the Customized Offerings Driver?: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/e0z2b1b0/3.1?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0KDT=20100701181224 -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.9 to 1.12 options
Thanks to everyone who responded, both on and off list. I have the COD ordered and will order my 1.12 Serverpac today. I may try using our 1.9 system to install the 1.12 SP but am going to wait until I see the COD doc before deciding. At least our 1.9 system should have all available maintenance on. Hopefully it won't be too bumpy of a ride... Thanks again and have a great weekend, Robert Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z/OS 1.9 to 1.12 options
Short version... We are running z/OS 1.9 and do not have a 1.10 or 1.11 system to install. I'd like to install a 1.12 Serverpac on the road back to being supported. I know about the n+2 rule but how do I get out of this pickle? I'm not talking about toleration and coexistence, just a driving system to install 1.12. We are a pretty simple monoplex. Shopz has a driving system that can be ordered. Is this a good approach? I would like to use our 1.9 system to install 1.12. The 1.12 doc says you must have at least 1.10. Does anyone know if 1.9 will work for the Serverpac install? Are there any other options that I may not know about? (of course, it can't cost a lot of money ;) Thanks for any advice, Robert Johnston UAMS - Little Rock Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.9 to 1.12 options
We just used 1.9 as a driver system for our 1.12 install. Not a problem. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Johnston, Robert E Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: z/OS 1.9 to 1.12 options Short version... We are running z/OS 1.9 and do not have a 1.10 or 1.11 system to install. I'd like to install a 1.12 Serverpac on the road back to being supported. I know about the n+2 rule but how do I get out of this pickle? I'm not talking about toleration and coexistence, just a driving system to install 1.12. We are a pretty simple monoplex. Shopz has a driving system that can be ordered. Is this a good approach? I would like to use our 1.9 system to install 1.12. The 1.12 doc says you must have at least 1.10. Does anyone know if 1.9 will work for the Serverpac install? Are there any other options that I may not know about? (of course, it can't cost a lot of money ;) Thanks for any advice, Robert Johnston UAMS - Little Rock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS 1.9 to 1.12 options
Johnston, Robert E wrote: Short version... We are running z/OS 1.9 and do not have a 1.10 or 1.11 system to install. I'd like to install a 1.12 Serverpac on the road back to being supported. I know about the n+2 rule but how do I get out of this pickle? I'm not talking about toleration and coexistence, just a driving system to install 1.12. We are a pretty simple monoplex. Shopz has a driving system that can be ordered. Is this a good approach? I would like to use our 1.9 system to install 1.12. The 1.12 doc says you must have at least 1.10. Does anyone know if 1.9 will work for the Serverpac install? Are there any other options that I may not know about? (of course, it can't cost a lot of money ;) snip z/OS R10 is the lowest supported release of z/OS, at least for a few more months. While z/OS R9 might or might not work for installing z/OS R12, we didn't test it and won't support it if there is a problem. It would be safest to order a Customized Offerings Driver (5751-COD), IPL it in a test LPAR, and use it to install R12. Having a system available that meets the driving system requirements for the current release is one of the two reasons we have a COD. If you intend to try installing R12 using R9, you might consider ordering the COD as a backup, so if there is a problem you won't have to wait for another order. The price is right (there is no additional charge if you have a z/OS license). Current information on the COD is in z/OS Planning for Installation topic 3.1, What is the Customized Offerings Driver?: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/e0z2b1b0/3.1?SHELF=EZ2ZBK0KDT=20100701181224 -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging increase when going from z/OS 1.9 to 1.11
Can you tell who/what is paging, (look in RMF). Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Paging increase when going from z/OS 1.9 to 1.11
Hi, We are seeing a paging increase after upgrading to z/OS 1.11. Has anyone else seen this? TIA Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging increase when going from z/OS 1.9 to 1.11
Hi, We are seeing a paging increase after upgrading to z/OS 1.11. Has anyone else seen this? TIA Gadi When we went from 1.9 to 1.11 we saw this effect. We were directed to a GRS PTF. I would open an ETR with IBM to see what other things they might have on this issue. This has helped to reduce our paging. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging increase when going from z/OS 1.9 to 1.11
There's a CPU hit ptf for *master* doing work on available frames queue. It might show up as a paging issue on your system. Might want to check it out. Chip Grantham | Ameritas | Sr. IT Consultant | cgrant...@ameritas.com 5900 O Street, Lincoln NE 68510 | p: 402-467-7382 | c: 402-429-3579 | f: 402-325-4030 Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 05/05/2011 08:19 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: Paging increase when going from z/OS 1.9 to 1.11 Hi, We are seeing a paging increase after upgrading to z/OS 1.11. Has anyone else seen this? TIA Gadi When we went from 1.9 to 1.11 we saw this effect. We were directed to a GRS PTF. I would open an ETR with IBM to see what other things they might have on this issue. This has helped to reduce our paging. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html *** This message may contain confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is legally privileged. If you are not the addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing or copying this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please immediately notify us by replying to the message and delete the original message immediately thereafter. Thank you. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging increase when going from z/OS 1.9 to 1.11
Gadi When we migrated from z/OS 1.9 to 1.11 we were hit by APAR OA33307 which caused excess paging. Description - At z/OS R11, if system is 2Gig REAL, RSM will schedule an SRB ( IAXUO IARUOGBS ) to perform Frame Steal operations running under the *MASTER* asid if a PageFix against HighVirual (64bit) storage is done and no High Frames ( 2Gig Real) are available. RSM attempts to protect 31bit Real Frames as best as possible by first stealing 64bit real frames if none are available. This causes whichever jobs that originally owned those frames (often DB2) to be paged out to AUX when at R10 this was either done to a much smaller extent or not at all. Whichever job/application owns the most High Frames ( 64bit) is most likely to experience the highest number of frames being stolen and thus an increase in AUX Slots. This can *potentially* (though not always) result in performance delays for that application when those pages have to be paged back in to real frames. This problem is usually seen almost immediately upon migrating to z/OS R11, and especially if Real storage is between 2Gig - 4Gig OR (for systems 4Gig) all of the High Frames ( 64Gig ) are in use. For systems between 2Gig - 4Gig the more predominant external symptom is abnormally high CPU in *MASTER*, running under IARUOGBS ( IAXUO ). ADDITIONAL SYMPTOMS: MsgIAR005E may be issued if reconfigurable storage is present. You might want to check that you have the PTF for this APAR applied HTH Mike On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Chip Grantham cgrant...@ameritas.comwrote: There's a CPU hit ptf for *master* doing work on available frames queue. It might show up as a paging issue on your system. Might want to check it out. Chip Grantham | Ameritas | Sr. IT Consultant | cgrant...@ameritas.com 5900 O Street, Lincoln NE 68510 | p: 402-467-7382 | c: 402-429-3579 | f: 402-325-4030 Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 05/05/2011 08:19 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: Paging increase when going from z/OS 1.9 to 1.11 Hi, We are seeing a paging increase after upgrading to z/OS 1.11. Has anyone else seen this? TIA Gadi When we went from 1.9 to 1.11 we saw this effect. We were directed to a GRS PTF. I would open an ETR with IBM to see what other things they might have on this issue. This has helped to reduce our paging. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html *** This message may contain confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is legally privileged. If you are not the addressee, or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, disseminating, distributing or copying this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message by mistake, please immediately notify us by replying to the message and delete the original message immediately thereafter. Thank you. *** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Paging increase when going from z/OS 1.9 to 1.11
Morning, Gadi. My (small) test system is still firmly at 0%, but my (larger, still not big) Prod system went from 0% to ~8%. Cheers,,,Steve Steven F. Conway, CISSP LA Systems z/OS Systems Support Phone: 703.295.1926 steve_con...@ao.uscourts.gov From: גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 05/05/2011 09:03 AM Subject: Paging increase when going from z/OS 1.9 to 1.11 Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Hi, We are seeing a paging increase after upgrading to z/OS 1.11. Has anyone else seen this? TIA Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Looking for the Z/os 1.9 HSM TTOC record layout
I always remembered these layouts being documented in the HSM Diagnosis Guide. I've got an old guide from version 1.5, but can't seem to find the layout in the 1.9 book. Did IBM move them or stop publishing them? Thanks, Jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Looking for the Z/os 1.9 HSM TTOC record layout
I don't know if this will help you: starting with z/OS r10, there is an unnumbered book called DFSMShsm Data Areas at http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/r10pdf/#dfsms (order number is NA). It contains the TTOC layout. Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Darby, Jim Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:42 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Looking for the Z/os 1.9 HSM TTOC record layout I always remembered these layouts being documented in the HSM Diagnosis Guide. I've got an old guide from version 1.5, but can't seem to find the layout in the 1.9 book. Did IBM move them or stop publishing them? Thanks, Jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Looking for the Z/os 1.9 HSM TTOC record layout
Thanks. Exactly what I was looking for. Must not have been one for version 9. Thanks again, Jim -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Starr, Alan Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Looking for the Z/os 1.9 HSM TTOC record layout I don't know if this will help you: starting with z/OS r10, there is an unnumbered book called DFSMShsm Data Areas at http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/r10pdf/#dfsms (order number is NA). It contains the TTOC layout. Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Darby, Jim Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:42 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Looking for the Z/os 1.9 HSM TTOC record layout I always remembered these layouts being documented in the HSM Diagnosis Guide. I've got an old guide from version 1.5, but can't seem to find the layout in the 1.9 book. Did IBM move them or stop publishing them? Thanks, Jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
DFdss DUMP DATASET runs longer on z/OS 1.11 vs. z/OS 1.9
I have a DFdss job that dumps a small subset of datasets and excludes a very large subset of datasets identified by a high-level qualifier mask. DUMP OUTDDNAME(TAPE) - DATASET(INCLUDE( - HLQ.** - )- EXCLUDE( - HLQ.EX*.** - )) - TOL(ENQF)- OPT(4) All of the excluded datasets are VSAM and there are probably hundreds of thousands. Up until Friday the job ran on z/OS 1.9 and took 10 minutes to complete. I migrated to z/OS 1.11 yesterday and today the dump took 2.5 hours. I don't know why and I can't find anything to explain it. Any ideas? Luke -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFdss DUMP DATASET runs longer on z/OS 1.11 vs. z/OS 1.9
W dniu 2010-07-19 20:57, Rabbe, Luke pisze: I have a DFdss job that dumps a small subset of datasets and excludes a very large subset of datasets identified by a high-level qualifier mask. DUMP OUTDDNAME(TAPE) - DATASET(INCLUDE( - HLQ.** - )- EXCLUDE( - HLQ.EX*.** - )) - TOL(ENQF)- OPT(4) All of the excluded datasets are VSAM and there are probably hundreds of thousands. Up until Friday the job ran on z/OS 1.9 and took 10 minutes to complete. I migrated to z/OS 1.11 yesterday and today the dump took 2.5 hours. I don't know why and I can't find anything to explain it. Any ideas? Not ideas, but a few things to check: 1. Try to re-run the job on both environments (if possible) with TYPRUN=NORUN in PARM of ADRDSSU step. It would compare the process of dataset selection. 2. Try to find any differences, like BLKSIZE on tape, maybe compression, etc. 3. What about TOL(ENQF) - is it really used? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFdss DUMP DATASET runs longer on z/OS 1.11 vs. z/OS 1.9
This sounds like OA32120. Larre Shiller US Social Security Administration 410.965.2209 www.ssa.gov The contents of this message are mine personally and do not necessarily reflect any official position of the US Government or the US Social Security Administration. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFdss DUMP DATASET runs longer on z/OS 1.11 vs. z/OS 1.9
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Rabbe, Luke luke.ra...@countryfinancial.com wrote: I have a DFdss job that dumps a small subset of datasets and excludes a very large subset of datasets identified by a high-level qualifier mask. DUMP OUTDDNAME(TAPE) - DATASET(INCLUDE( - HLQ.** - )- EXCLUDE( - HLQ.EX*.** - )) - TOL(ENQF)- OPT(4) All of the excluded datasets are VSAM and there are probably hundreds of thousands. Up until Friday the job ran on z/OS 1.9 and took 10 minutes to complete. I migrated to z/OS 1.11 yesterday and today the dump took 2.5 hours. I don't know why and I can't find anything to explain it. Any ideas? Luke We have encountered a similar problem. I'm in the process of checking apar OA32120 as a possible cause. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFdss DUMP DATASET runs longer on z/OS 1.11 vs. z/OS 1.9
Thanks all. Luke -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DFdss DUMP DATASET runs longer on z/OS 1.11 vs. z/OS 1.9 On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:57 PM, Rabbe, Luke luke.ra...@countryfinancial.com wrote: I have a DFdss job that dumps a small subset of datasets and excludes a very large subset of datasets identified by a high-level qualifier mask. DUMP OUTDDNAME(TAPE) - DATASET(INCLUDE( - HLQ.** - )- EXCLUDE( - HLQ.EX*.** - )) - TOL(ENQF)- OPT(4) All of the excluded datasets are VSAM and there are probably hundreds of thousands. Up until Friday the job ran on z/OS 1.9 and took 10 minutes to complete. I migrated to z/OS 1.11 yesterday and today the dump took 2.5 hours. I don't know why and I can't find anything to explain it. Any ideas? Luke We have encountered a similar problem. I'm in the process of checking apar OA32120 as a possible cause. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF Authority Change with z/OS 1.9
When using the old parms, it's likely that they have not 'lost access but that they have changed their settings and can't see the output because of that. To be sure, when they are in the output queue, they should type the PREFIX command with no options. If they still can't see it, they should type H ALL If they STILL can't see it, then it could be that you have actually changed the parms from the previous release, and you just need to locate the actual parms that you are using, sometimes people will have steplibs, or another set of the parms will be in a linklist library that precedes the one you think you are using. It's usually something quite simple like that. The parms are pretty straightforward, and remember that they are first match oriented, so the first group that they match, is the one that they will use, it's not best match, just first match. If you still can't get this fixed after the above, send me you parms and the userid and the TSO authorizations of the user in question, (i.e. JCL, OPER, etc.) and I'll let you know what the problem was/is. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF Authority Change with z/OS 1.9
Alan, Have you had the user do a WHO in SDSF and confirm that you are using the correct ISFPRM00? Maybe there is a default one shipped with the system you do not know you are picking up? Or perhaps you need to check on if the ISFPRM00 was compiled from before and the wrong version is in the LINKLST somewhere. I would look at the ISFGRP and SDSF member being used and make sure they match from before the upgrade. Lizette Hello group, I have another puzzler that I haven't solved yet. We've migrated from z/OS 1.7 to 1.9 and some people have lost the ability to view output that is in held class 5. This doesn't seem to be affecting everyone as there's lots of entries in class 5 and various jobs and I've only heard from two people. We're using the SDSF server with ISFPRM00 in a pds, not external security. Any clues how I can rectify this? The SDSF manual is a lot less clear on non-SAF security than it used to be. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF Authority Change with z/OS 1.9
All solved. There was a usermod to ISFUSER that was overlooked. IBM gave great guidance: The symptom looks like either the SDSF class and/or the JESSPOOL class is activated on the system. When either one of those 2 classes is activated, and when you have not customized the SDSF user exit, then the dummy SDSF user exit we shipped will direct SDSF to make decision on who can see which jobs using the external security instead of the ISFPRMxx. Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 6:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SDSF Authority Change with z/OS 1.9 Alan, Have you had the user do a WHO in SDSF and confirm that you are using the correct ISFPRM00? Maybe there is a default one shipped with the system you do not know you are picking up? Or perhaps you need to check on if the ISFPRM00 was compiled from before and the wrong version is in the LINKLST somewhere. I would look at the ISFGRP and SDSF member being used and make sure they match from before the upgrade. Lizette Hello group, I have another puzzler that I haven't solved yet. We've migrated from z/OS 1.7 to 1.9 and some people have lost the ability to view output that is in held class 5. This doesn't seem to be affecting everyone as there's lots of entries in class 5 and various jobs and I've only heard from two people. We're using the SDSF server with ISFPRM00 in a pds, not external security. Any clues how I can rectify this? The SDSF manual is a lot less clear on non-SAF security than it used to be. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SDSF Authority Change with z/OS 1.9
Hello group, I have another puzzler that I haven't solved yet. We've migrated from z/OS 1.7 to 1.9 and some people have lost the ability to view output that is in held class 5. This doesn't seem to be affecting everyone as there's lots of entries in class 5 and various jobs and I've only heard from two people. We're using the SDSF server with ISFPRM00 in a pds, not external security. Any clues how I can rectify this? The SDSF manual is a lot less clear on non-SAF security than it used to be. Alan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Tivoli Output Manager Deployment Experiences - z/OS 1.9
I am interested in offline contacts with customers who have installed Tivoli Output Manger Version 2.3 (HAAX230/5698-A26). In particular, I am interested in user experiences, conversion experiences (from CA-View and CA-Deliver), overcome problems, and tips and techniques. William J. Smith Principal z/OS Software Engineer -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z/OS (1.9) FTP client to 'strange' non-z/OS FTP server
Hi all I am trying to FTP to a customer’s FTP server, which is Axway’s XFB.Gateway/Axway File Broker. It seems to want the decision about whether we want to use TLS, and whether we want to use Active or Passive mode, to be made at the time of connection, rather than once the session is established. With the SECUREIMPLICITZOS FALSE statement in SYSFTPD I’ve got it to negotiate the TLS immediately at connect time, but can’t find a way to do the same with Passive Mode. It’s always been my understanding that PASV is issued just prior to each data transfer – whether that be returned command output such as directory displays, or actual file transfers – rather than at the start of the session, so this does strike me as a little weird. But anyway, has anyone managed to successfully connect a z/OS FTP client to an Axway XFB Gateway server? Or perhaps offer advice on how I might do so? Many thanks in advance Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS (1.9) FTP client to 'strange' non-z/OS FTP server
As far as I can tell, the decision to use TLS and passive mode is made during initial session negotiation, and that is the standard protocol. What may be happening is that you are being blocked by a NAT'ing firewall. If that is what is happening, then your only hope is if the firewall and server supports RFC 2428 (the EPSV directive). Or, of course, the NAT'ing firewall were configured to allow encrypted traffic. A key symptom to look for is that the session starts just fine, but hangs upon any attempt to transfer data. The root problem seems to be that a NAT'ing firewall is technically identical to a 'man in the middle' attack which TLS is designed to prevent. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bri P Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 9:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: z/OS (1.9) FTP client to 'strange' non-z/OS FTP server Hi all I am trying to FTP to a customer’s FTP server, which is Axway’s XFB.Gateway/Axway File Broker. It seems to want the decision about whether we want to use TLS, and whether we want to use Active or Passive mode, to be made at the time of connection, rather than once the session is established. With the SECUREIMPLICITZOS FALSE statement in SYSFTPD I’ve got it to negotiate the TLS immediately at connect time, but can’t find a way to do the same with Passive Mode. It’s always been my understanding that PASV is issued just prior to each data transfer – whether that be returned command output such as directory displays, or actual file transfers – rather than at the start of the session, so this does strike me as a little weird. But anyway, has anyone managed to successfully connect a z/OS FTP client to an Axway XFB Gateway server? Or perhaps offer advice on how I might do so? Many thanks in advance Brian NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
logical swapping in z/os 1.9
Hello everybody, Recently, when I was looking at RMF monitor III reports during End of Day processing I have noticed (from time to time) following delays: Job: WMJPXSR0 Primary delay: Swapped out and ready to run. Probable cause: Too many jobs/users running. Help panels contain more possible causes. Primary Reason : OUTR My first thought was that we have (central) storage problems, but I didn't noticed any paging occuring that time (in fact, we had about 50% available frames), then I have read, that z/os doesn't use physical swapping anymore. I noticed, that such situation occurs when simultaneusly many jobs tries to enter the system. Are there any parameters in z/os which can be customized to eliminate such delays, or it's 'deep system flavour'/normal behaviour and it shouldn't be touched? I tried to read about how SRM adjust MPL but didn't understand it. Do you have any ideas how two handle such situation? Regards, Pawel Leszczynski PKO BP SA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9
I'm no expert, but I am fairly sure that swapped out and ready to run is more due to lack of CPU resource, or some sort of WLM problem than a problem due to swapping. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pawel Leszczynski Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: logical swapping in z/os 1.9 Hello everybody, Recently, when I was looking at RMF monitor III reports during End of Day processing I have noticed (from time to time) following delays: Job: WMJPXSR0 Primary delay: Swapped out and ready to run. Probable cause: Too many jobs/users running. Help panels contain more possible causes. Primary Reason : OUTR My first thought was that we have (central) storage problems, but I didn't noticed any paging occuring that time (in fact, we had about 50% available frames), then I have read, that z/os doesn't use physical swapping anymore. I noticed, that such situation occurs when simultaneusly many jobs tries to enter the system. Are there any parameters in z/os which can be customized to eliminate such delays, or it's 'deep system flavour'/normal behaviour and it shouldn't be touched? I tried to read about how SRM adjust MPL but didn't understand it. Do you have any ideas how two handle such situation? Regards, Pawel Leszczynski PKO BP SA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9
Strange - during these delays CEC is not heavily loaded (75%), we have 30% available frames, and these delays are reported in section STORAGE delays (as 100% delays , reason: OUTR 100%) I am not sure (I doubt) it's CPU problem Regards, Pawel On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:04:50 -0500, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I'm no expert, but I am fairly sure that swapped out and ready to run is more due to lack of CPU resource, or some sort of WLM problem than a problem due to swapping. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pawel Leszczynski Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: logical swapping in z/os 1.9 Hello everybody, Recently, when I was looking at RMF monitor III reports during End of Day processing I have noticed (from time to time) following delays: Job: WMJPXSR0 Primary delay: Swapped out and ready to run. Probable cause: Too many jobs/users running. Help panels contain more possible causes. Primary Reason : OUTR My first thought was that we have (central) storage problems, but I didn't noticed any paging occuring that time (in fact, we had about 50% available frames), then I have read, that z/os doesn't use physical swapping anymore. I noticed, that such situation occurs when simultaneusly many jobs tries to enter the system. Are there any parameters in z/os which can be customized to eliminate such delays, or it's 'deep system flavour'/normal behaviour and it shouldn't be touched? I tried to read about how SRM adjust MPL but didn't understand it. Do you have any ideas how two handle such situation? Regards, Pawel Leszczynski PKO BP SA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9
I hear that overly aggressive WLM goal settings can do this. Look for high importance workloads not meeting their goals because the goals are not achievable. I believe that WLM will hold back recourses in an effort to 'push' these workloads towards their goals. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pawel Leszczynski Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9 Strange - during these delays CEC is not heavily loaded (75%), we have 30% available frames, and these delays are reported in section STORAGE delays (as 100% delays , reason: OUTR 100%) I am not sure (I doubt) it's CPU problem Regards, Pawel On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:04:50 -0500, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I'm no expert, but I am fairly sure that swapped out and ready to run is more due to lack of CPU resource, or some sort of WLM problem than a problem due to swapping. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pawel Leszczynski Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: logical swapping in z/os 1.9 Hello everybody, Recently, when I was looking at RMF monitor III reports during End of Day processing I have noticed (from time to time) following delays: Job: WMJPXSR0 Primary delay: Swapped out and ready to run. Probable cause: Too many jobs/users running. Help panels contain more possible causes. Primary Reason : OUTR My first thought was that we have (central) storage problems, but I didn't noticed any paging occuring that time (in fact, we had about 50% available frames), then I have read, that z/os doesn't use physical swapping anymore. I noticed, that such situation occurs when simultaneusly many jobs tries to enter the system. Are there any parameters in z/os which can be customized to eliminate such delays, or it's 'deep system flavour'/normal behaviour and it shouldn't be touched? I tried to read about how SRM adjust MPL but didn't understand it. Do you have any ideas how two handle such situation? Regards, Pawel Leszczynski PKO BP SA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9
I was just reading a presentation made by Rich Olcott at the August 2008 SHARE that might relate to what Hal is referring to. In it Rich is discussing the unattainable goal. He says that after a time WLM will realize that the goal can't be reached and will stop trying for a while. So basically the service class period is removed from the receiver queue, but it remains on the donor queue. Then Rich makes this statement. What happens if you give WLM an unrealistic goal? WLM tries everything it can to help, but then gives up and goes on to help work that can be helped. Meanwhile, the Don Quixote work steadily loses the resources it was given. I don't know it that might be what's happening here or not. Tom Kelman Enterprise Capacity Planner Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9 I hear that overly aggressive WLM goal settings can do this. Look for high importance workloads not meeting their goals because the goals are not achievable. I believe that WLM will hold back recourses in an effort to 'push' these workloads towards their goals. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pawel Leszczynski Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9 Strange - during these delays CEC is not heavily loaded (75%), we have 30% available frames, and these delays are reported in section STORAGE delays (as 100% delays , reason: OUTR 100%) I am not sure (I doubt) it's CPU problem Regards, Pawel On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:04:50 -0500, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I'm no expert, but I am fairly sure that swapped out and ready to run is more due to lack of CPU resource, or some sort of WLM problem than a problem due to swapping. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pawel Leszczynski Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: logical swapping in z/os 1.9 Hello everybody, Recently, when I was looking at RMF monitor III reports during End of Day processing I have noticed (from time to time) following delays: Job: WMJPXSR0 Primary delay: Swapped out and ready to run. Probable cause: Too many jobs/users running. Help panels contain more possible causes. Primary Reason : OUTR My first thought was that we have (central) storage problems, but I didn't noticed any paging occuring that time (in fact, we had about 50% available frames), then I have read, that z/os doesn't use physical swapping anymore. I noticed, that such situation occurs when simultaneusly many jobs tries to enter the system. Are there any parameters in z/os which can be customized to eliminate such delays, or it's 'deep system flavour'/normal behaviour and it shouldn't be touched? I tried to read about how SRM adjust MPL but didn't understand it. Do you have any ideas how two handle such situation? Regards, Pawel Leszczynski PKO BP SA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any
Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9
I should have also noted that WLM does not work quickly. So, we could have an inappropriate goal and WLM has not yet given up or is retrying. Upon rereading the OP, I see that I missed that the event occurs upon heavy job submission. I've seen this before a while back: a job/task starts a mass job submission and things get bad quick. Indeed, many 'mass' type JES activities (such as a routine spool purge) seems to cause this behavior. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9 I was just reading a presentation made by Rich Olcott at the August 2008 SHARE that might relate to what Hal is referring to. In it Rich is discussing the unattainable goal. He says that after a time WLM will realize that the goal can't be reached and will stop trying for a while. So basically the service class period is removed from the receiver queue, but it remains on the donor queue. Then Rich makes this statement. What happens if you give WLM an unrealistic goal? WLM tries everything it can to help, but then gives up and goes on to help work that can be helped. Meanwhile, the Don Quixote work steadily loses the resources it was given. I don't know it that might be what's happening here or not. Tom Kelman Enterprise Capacity Planner Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9 I hear that overly aggressive WLM goal settings can do this. Look for high importance workloads not meeting their goals because the goals are not achievable. I believe that WLM will hold back recourses in an effort to 'push' these workloads towards their goals. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pawel Leszczynski Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9 Strange - during these delays CEC is not heavily loaded (75%), we have 30% available frames, and these delays are reported in section STORAGE delays (as 100% delays , reason: OUTR 100%) I am not sure (I doubt) it's CPU problem Regards, Pawel On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:04:50 -0500, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I'm no expert, but I am fairly sure that swapped out and ready to run is more due to lack of CPU resource, or some sort of WLM problem than a problem due to swapping. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pawel Leszczynski Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: logical swapping in z/os 1.9 Hello everybody, Recently, when I was looking at RMF monitor III reports during End of Day processing I have noticed (from time to time) following delays: Job: WMJPXSR0 Primary delay: Swapped out and ready to run. Probable cause: Too many jobs/users running. Help panels contain more possible causes. Primary Reason : OUTR My first thought was that we have (central) storage problems, but I didn't noticed any paging occuring that time (in fact, we had about 50% available frames), then I have read, that z/os doesn't use physical swapping anymore. I noticed, that such situation occurs when simultaneusly many jobs tries to enter the system. Are there any parameters in z/os which can be customized to eliminate such delays, or it's 'deep system flavour'/normal behaviour and it shouldn't be touched? I tried to read about how SRM adjust MPL but didn't understand it. Do you have any ideas how two handle such situation? Regards, Pawel Leszczynski PKO BP SA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN
Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9
Just go into RMFMON III, select Option 1 OVERVIEW, then Option 4 DELAY and you get a display showing who the job is waiting for and why. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Pawel Leszczynski pawel.leszczyn...@pkobp.pl wrote: Hello everybody, Recently, when I was looking at RMF monitor III reports during End of Day processing I have noticed (from time to time) following delays: Job: WMJPXSR0 Primary delay: Swapped out and ready to run. Probable cause: Too many jobs/users running. Help panels contain more possible causes. Primary Reason : OUTR My first thought was that we have (central) storage problems, but I didn't noticed any paging occuring that time (in fact, we had about 50% available frames), then I have read, that z/os doesn't use physical swapping anymore. I noticed, that such situation occurs when simultaneusly many jobs tries to enter the system. Are there any parameters in z/os which can be customized to eliminate such delays, or it's 'deep system flavour'/normal behaviour and it shouldn't be touched? I tried to read about how SRM adjust MPL but didn't understand it. Do you have any ideas how two handle such situation? Regards, Pawel Leszczynski PKO BP SA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- George Henke (C) 845 401 5614 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Filezilla, SSL, z/OS 1.9
The following fix and parm update solved my problem with Filezilla. Thanks to all for the help, I'll probably stick with Bluezone myself, but it's good to have another option for my users. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly Thanks, UK43295 (APAR PK77240) is on my 1.9 system. I'll give TLSRFCLEVEL RFC4217 a try and report back. This is my third trip to this well on this issue. May be the charm :) Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Peurifoy Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Filezilla, was Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly Gibney, Dave wrote: I must have something wrong. I just installed the latest. 3.3.0.1 and I still get: Trace:CTransferSocket::OnReceive(), m_transferMode=0 Trace:GnuTLS error -9: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received. Status: Server did not properly shut down TLS connection Error:Could not read from transfer socket: ECONNABORTED - Connection aborted Trace:CTransferSocket::TransferEnd(3) We had a similar problem some time ago.. With help from the IBMTCP-L list I found: http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/3626 which seemed to match the problem. Nothing I tried at the time got around this problem. My next thing to try was switching to AT-TLS which someone said fixed the problem, but I have been too busy to get it set up. However I now see: http://trac.filezilla-project.org/ticket/3684 which sounds like there might be a fix without AT-TLS. I am going to try this this weekend. Steve Bireley of Bluezone helped in looking at some of my traces, and also suggested I try the Bluezone client which is free. http://www.bluezonesoftware.com/ Richard - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Any MXI 4.3 Issues on z/OS 1.9/10/11 ?
Greetings, I wanted to see if anyone has experienced or knows of any issues at all with running the freeware MXI 4.3 under z/OS 1.9, z/OS 1.10 or z/OS 1.11? This would include, but not be limited to the following functionality: - MXI standard ISPF panels - MXI server and subsystem - MXI Collecting LPAR Information (MXIU83 exit for RMF or MXIU84 exit for CMF) - MXI Collecting Log Stream Information (MXIU83 exit) - MXI Collecting LLA module fetch statistics (CSVLLIX1/MXILLIX1 exit) - MXI TCP/IP Server - MXI Exception Rules Table - MXI Security Cheers… Michael Cleary -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any MXI 4.3 Issues on z/OS 1.9/10/11 ?
The only problem that I am aware of is that starting with z/OS 1.9, MXI does not process PCs correctly due to IBM expanding the size of the PC number and MXI not being updated to cope. Lou Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Michael Cleary michaeljosephcle...@yahoo.com wrote: Greetings, I wanted to see if anyone has experienced or knows of any issues at all with running the freeware MXI 4.3 under z/OS 1.9, z/OS 1.10 or z/OS 1.11? This would include, but not be limited to the following functionality: - MXI standard ISPF panels - MXI server and subsystem - MXI Collecting LPAR Information (MXIU83 exit for RMF or MXIU84 exit for CMF) - MXI Collecting Log Stream Information (MXIU83 exit) - MXI Collecting LLA module fetch statistics (CSVLLIX1/MXILLIX1 exit) - MXI TCP/IP Server - MXI Exception Rules Table - MXI Security Cheers… Michael Cleary -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any MXI 4.3 Issues on z/OS 1.9/10/11 ?
Micheal Here are a few things for starters : (o) No knowledge of 64-bit storage for address space and system level metrics (o) No knowledge of 64-bit storage for memory browsing (o) No knowledge of 5-digit UCBs (o) No knowledge of PAV (o) No knowledge of z/IIP and z/AAP (o) Some DASD and SMS displays can be truncated on large shops and even fail with region size related abends (o) DB2 V9 is not supported (o) Linkage index display produces no results (o) Incomplete results for HSM request queue (o) No knowledge of EAV DASD (very high capacity DASD) (o) DASD command produces incorrect (and quite ugly) capacity/usage results for EAV DASD (o) SMF Type 70 record processing does not handle fragmented records when site has large number of LPARs and/or LCPUs Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Cleary Sent: 18 October 2009 12:30 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Any MXI 4.3 Issues on z/OS 1.9/10/11 ? Greetings, I wanted to see if anyone has experienced or knows of any issues at all with running the freeware MXI 4.3 under z/OS 1.9, z/OS 1.10 or z/OS 1.11? This would include, but not be limited to the following functionality: - MXI standard ISPF panels - MXI server and subsystem - MXI Collecting LPAR Information (MXIU83 exit for RMF or MXIU84 exit for CMF) - MXI Collecting Log Stream Information (MXIU83 exit) - MXI Collecting LLA module fetch statistics (CSVLLIX1/MXILLIX1 exit) - MXI TCP/IP Server - MXI Exception Rules Table - MXI Security Cheers... Michael Cleary -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any MXI 4.3 Issues on z/OS 1.9/10/11 ?
On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 08:02 -0400, Rob Scott wrote: Here are a few things for starters : (o) No knowledge of 64-bit storage for address space and system level metrics (o) No knowledge of 64-bit storage for memory browsing (o) No knowledge of 5-digit UCBs (o) No knowledge of PAV (o) No knowledge of z/IIP and z/AAP (o) Some DASD and SMS displays can be truncated on large shops and even fail with region size related abends (o) DB2 V9 is not supported (o) Linkage index display produces no results (o) Incomplete results for HSM request queue (o) No knowledge of EAV DASD (very high capacity DASD) (o) DASD command produces incorrect (and quite ugly) capacity/usage results for EAV DASD (o) SMF Type 70 record processing does not handle fragmented records when site has large number of LPARs and/or LCPUs Other than that, most things work fine ... ;-) Of course another option is to toss Rocket some money so that Rob can continue to support himself and his family. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Message Flood Automation in z/os 1.9
Is it easier to implement message flood the way IBM have implemented it or to use one of the message automation products that offer the MPF exit as one of its options? On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Klein, Kenneth kenneth.kl...@kyfb.comwrote: Actions for OA25602: Before the installation of this APAR, if you implemented exit specified in parmlib member MPFLSTxx and with message processing installation exit IEAVMXIT. With this APAR, Message Flood Automation is integrated in z/OS, eliminating the use for the exit routines. Message Flood Automation must be removed from these exit routines: Steps to take: - Update your MPFLSTxx parmlib member to remove all .CMD USEREXIT(CNZZCMXT) statements. - If you have a CONTROL M (K M) command in your CONSOLxx or yout COMMNDxx, you must remove it. - If you use exit IEAVMXIT only for Message Flood Automation, update your CONSOLxx parmlib member to change the INIT statement option of UEXIT(Y) to UEXIT(N). Note: Do not do this if you want to continue to use IEAVMXIT for other purposes. Ken Klein Sr. Systems Programmer Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com 502-495-5000 x7011 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Skip Robinson Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Message Flood Automation in z/os 1.9 I don't have the HOLD data in front of me, but as I recall 'exit removal' referred only to message suppression logic, not to the exit per se. For example, we use the exit to set message color by system, not for suppression. The exit is still in place and working fine. I think the HOLD record is poorly worded and misleading, but the gist is there if you ponder it long enough. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com Klein, Kenneth kenneth.kl...@ky FB.COM To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Mainframe cc Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua Subject .edu Message Flood Automation in z/os 1.9 07/01/2009 09:44 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua .edu The hold(action) states the userexit is to be removed from the mpflst, and in consolxx the uexit be set to (N). So how does the integrated mfa know which messages to suppress? Any other actions required beyond whats in the hold data? Ken Klein Sr. Systems Programmer Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Message Flood Automation in z/os 1.9
The hold(action) states the userexit is to be removed from the mpflst, and in consolxx the uexit be set to (N). So how does the integrated mfa know which messages to suppress? Any other actions required beyond whats in the hold data? Ken Klein Sr. Systems Programmer Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Message Flood Automation in z/os 1.9
I don't have the HOLD data in front of me, but as I recall 'exit removal' referred only to message suppression logic, not to the exit per se. For example, we use the exit to set message color by system, not for suppression. The exit is still in place and working fine. I think the HOLD record is poorly worded and misleading, but the gist is there if you ponder it long enough. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com Klein, Kenneth kenneth.kl...@ky FB.COMTo Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Mainframe cc Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua Subject .edu Message Flood Automation in z/os 1.9 07/01/2009 09:44 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua .edu The hold(action) states the userexit is to be removed from the mpflst, and in consolxx the uexit be set to (N). So how does the integrated mfa know which messages to suppress? Any other actions required beyond whats in the hold data? Ken Klein Sr. Systems Programmer Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Message Flood Automation in z/os 1.9
Actions for OA25602: Before the installation of this APAR, if you implemented exit specified in parmlib member MPFLSTxx and with message processing installation exit IEAVMXIT. With this APAR, Message Flood Automation is integrated in z/OS, eliminating the use for the exit routines. Message Flood Automation must be removed from these exit routines: Steps to take: - Update your MPFLSTxx parmlib member to remove all .CMD USEREXIT(CNZZCMXT) statements. - If you have a CONTROL M (K M) command in your CONSOLxx or yout COMMNDxx, you must remove it. - If you use exit IEAVMXIT only for Message Flood Automation, update your CONSOLxx parmlib member to change the INIT statement option of UEXIT(Y) to UEXIT(N). Note: Do not do this if you want to continue to use IEAVMXIT for other purposes. Ken Klein Sr. Systems Programmer Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com 502-495-5000 x7011 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Skip Robinson Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Message Flood Automation in z/os 1.9 I don't have the HOLD data in front of me, but as I recall 'exit removal' referred only to message suppression logic, not to the exit per se. For example, we use the exit to set message color by system, not for suppression. The exit is still in place and working fine. I think the HOLD record is poorly worded and misleading, but the gist is there if you ponder it long enough. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com Klein, Kenneth kenneth.kl...@ky FB.COM To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Mainframe cc Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua Subject .edu Message Flood Automation in z/os 1.9 07/01/2009 09:44 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua .edu The hold(action) states the userexit is to be removed from the mpflst, and in consolxx the uexit be set to (N). So how does the integrated mfa know which messages to suppress? Any other actions required beyond whats in the hold data? Ken Klein Sr. Systems Programmer Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: First ipl of z/OS 1.9
Sorted. The problem was a mismatch between the console definitions. The CEE3739I message is the last one displayed on the NIP console and the system then couldn't find a system console. Jim McAlpine On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.comwrote: The next messages in our z/os 1.9 system are: CEE3739I LANGUAGE ENVIRONMENT INITIALIZATION COMPLETE CUN2046I AN EMPTY UNICODE ENVIRONMENT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED CUN2005I CONVERSION ENVIRONMENT SUCCESSFULLY INITIALIZED Maybe it is related to unicode? Sounds like a good guess. There is only 2/100 of a second different between the CEE3739I and CUN2046I in the syslog for my sandbox that I just checked. Can you take a SADUMP? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
First ipl of z/OS 1.9
I'm trying to ipl the z/OS 1.9 ADCD on a FLEX-ES box for the first time and getting as far as - CEE3739I LANGUAGE ENVIRONMENT INITIALIZATION COMPLETE A display of the psw shows - PSW = 0706 (000a unknown instruction) Apparently, this is not a known FLEX problem. Any ideas why I'm getting the psw shown above. Jim McAlpine This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorised distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. Whilst COA Solutions takes steps to prevent the transmission of viruses via e-mail, we cannot guarantee that any email or attachment is free from computer viruses and you are strongly advised to undertake your own anti-virus precautions. COA Solutions grants no warranties regarding performance, use or quality of any e-mail or attachment and undertakes no liability for loss or damage, howsoever caused. COA Solutions Limited is registered in England and Wales No: 3214465 Registered Office: Munro House, Portsmouth Road, Cobham, Surrey, KT11 1TF For more information on COA Solutions and our products, please visit our web site at http://www.coasolutions.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: First ipl of z/OS 1.9
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:56:15 +0100 Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote: :I'm trying to ipl the z/OS 1.9 ADCD on a FLEX-ES box for the first time and :getting as :far as - :CEE3739I LANGUAGE ENVIRONMENT INITIALIZATION COMPLETE :A display of the psw shows - :PSW = 0706 (000a unknown instruction) :Apparently, this is not a known FLEX problem. :Any ideas why I'm getting the psw shown above. No work wait. What happens when you issue a command? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: First ipl of z/OS 1.9
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: No work wait. What happens when you issue a command? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel I can't. If I hit enter on the console, I get X CLOCK and the console input is inhibited. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: First ipl of z/OS 1.9
The next messages in our z/os 1.9 system are: CEE3739I LANGUAGE ENVIRONMENT INITIALIZATION COMPLETE CUN2046I AN EMPTY UNICODE ENVIRONMENT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED CUN2005I CONVERSION ENVIRONMENT SUCCESSFULLY INITIALIZED Maybe it is related to unicode? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: First ipl of z/OS 1.9
Jim McAlpine wrote: I'm trying to ipl the z/OS 1.9 ADCD on a FLEX-ES box for the first time and getting as far as - CEE3739I LANGUAGE ENVIRONMENT INITIALIZATION COMPLETE A display of the psw shows - PSW = 0706 (000a unknown instruction) Apparently, this is not a known FLEX problem. Any ideas why I'm getting the psw shown above. I suggest take a SAD and analyze from a working system. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: First ipl of z/OS 1.9
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: First ipl of z/OS 1.9 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: No work wait. SNIPPAGE I can't. If I hit enter on the console, I get X CLOCK and the console input is inhibited. SNIP And if you hit the restart button or Extern Interrupt button, what happens? Not having used one of those systems, do you have a logical NIP console? And what does it show, if anything? Regards, Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: First ipl of z/OS 1.9
The next messages in our z/os 1.9 system are: CEE3739I LANGUAGE ENVIRONMENT INITIALIZATION COMPLETE CUN2046I AN EMPTY UNICODE ENVIRONMENT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED CUN2005I CONVERSION ENVIRONMENT SUCCESSFULLY INITIALIZED Maybe it is related to unicode? Sounds like a good guess. There is only 2/100 of a second different between the CEE3739I and CUN2046I in the syslog for my sandbox that I just checked. Can you take a SADUMP? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
DFHSM hang condition on z/OS 1.9.
Has anyone noticed an occasional 'hung condition' on DFHSM lately? Where the task is just stuck and doing nothing? This has happened about 2-3 times over the past few months and at different times/conditions. I am going to prowl IBMLINK, but wanted to ask here as well. I may open an ETR later after I catch the next condition. Thanks, Claude -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFHSM hang condition on z/OS 1.9.
1) Assuming the task is not consuming CPU or IO, is this a problem? Perhaps HSM has nothing to do. 2) What does F DFHSM,Q ACTIVE show? Likewise, F DFHSM, Q REQ? 3) Check for a CDS Backup running during some other long running (e.g. recycle) task. Activities will stack up until the CDS backup completes. Issue d grs,c to confirm, although it should show up on the Q active command. HTH, snip Subject: DFHSM hang condition on z/OS 1.9. Has anyone noticed an occasional 'hung condition' on DFHSM lately? Where the task is just stuck and doing nothing? This has happened about 2-3 times over the past few months and at different times/conditions. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFHSM hang condition on z/OS 1.9.
Thanks for the reply Allan, At the time(s) it seemed that DFHSM was finishing recycle processing and would not respond to commands or not come down with a purge command. There was no CDS backup running at the time(s). But next time it happens, I'll issue the below commands and look at the response. Thanks, Claude snip 1) Assuming the task is not consuming CPU or IO, is this a problem? Perhaps HSM has nothing to do. 2) What does F DFHSM,Q ACTIVE show? Likewise, F DFHSM, Q REQ? 3) Check for a CDS Backup running during some other long running (e.g. recycle) task. Activities will stack up until the CDS backup completes. Issue d grs,c to confirm, although it should show up on the Q active command. snip snip Subject: DFHSM hang condition on z/OS 1.9. Has anyone noticed an occasional 'hung condition' on DFHSM lately? Where the task is just stuck and doing nothing? This has happened about 2-3 times over the past few months and at different times/conditions. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFHSM hang condition on z/OS 1.9.
You can dump the address spaces and send it along with the PDA data to IBM. They will be able to tell you what activity was taking place. Terry Traylor charlesSCHWAB TIS Mainframe Storage Management Remedy Queue: tis-hs-mstg (602) 977-5154 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richbourg, Claude Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DFHSM hang condition on z/OS 1.9. Thanks for the reply Allan, At the time(s) it seemed that DFHSM was finishing recycle processing and would not respond to commands or not come down with a purge command. There was no CDS backup running at the time(s). But next time it happens, I'll issue the below commands and look at the response. Thanks, Claude snip 1) Assuming the task is not consuming CPU or IO, is this a problem? Perhaps HSM has nothing to do. 2) What does F DFHSM,Q ACTIVE show? Likewise, F DFHSM, Q REQ? 3) Check for a CDS Backup running during some other long running (e.g. recycle) task. Activities will stack up until the CDS backup completes. Issue d grs,c to confirm, although it should show up on the Q active command. snip snip Subject: DFHSM hang condition on z/OS 1.9. Has anyone noticed an occasional 'hung condition' on DFHSM lately? Where the task is just stuck and doing nothing? This has happened about 2-3 times over the past few months and at different times/conditions. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS NFS client B78 5C on z/os 1.9
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:56:05 -0400, Schumacher, Otto wrote: You have just begun. There are several vendor software that do not support the CSA Key change. Good luck. Yes, but with some of those other vendors such a problem might not be APARable. I don't see the problem on 1.10, but I don't know that we're using igvnouserkeycsa. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gibbons, Mark We are bringing up z/os 1.9 using the default for igvnouserkeycsa. The NFS client task abends indicating it is using CSA key 8. Has anyone else run into this? Did you need to make any changes to the NFS client to get around this? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
MVS NFS client B78 5C on z/os 1.9
We are bringing up z/os 1.9 using the default for igvnouserkeycsa. The NFS client task abends indicating it is using CSA key 8. Has anyone else run into this? Did you need to make any changes to the NFS client to get around this? Thanks, Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS NFS client B78 5C on z/os 1.9
You have just begun. There are several vendor software that do not support the CSA Key change. Good luck. Regards Otto Schumacher Technical Support, CICS EDS, an HP Company Ahold Account 2000 Wade Hampton Blvd. LC1-302 Greenville, South Carolina, 29615 Tel: 864 987-1417 Fax: 864 987-4500 E-mail: otto.schumac...@eds.com We deliver on our commitments so you can deliver on yours. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gibbons, Mark Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: MVS NFS client B78 5C on z/os 1.9 We are bringing up z/os 1.9 using the default for igvnouserkeycsa. The NFS client task abends indicating it is using CSA key 8. Has anyone else run into this? Did you need to make any changes to the NFS client to get around this? Thanks, Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS NFS client B78 5C on z/os 1.9
You might want to Check the following APAR from IBM http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=203q1=ALLOWUSERKEYCSAuid=swg21314085loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en Reza Fatemi BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gibbons, Mark Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 2:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: MVS NFS client B78 5C on z/os 1.9 We are bringing up z/os 1.9 using the default for igvnouserkeycsa. The NFS client task abends indicating it is using CSA key 8. Has anyone else run into this? Did you need to make any changes to the NFS client to get around this? Thanks, Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS NFS client B78 5C on z/os 1.9
We run NFS client and have ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) on several LPARs. I'm not sure how much use NFS gets on our system, but we've seen no abends for the year or so we've had ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) set. Are you STEPLIBing to the right version of NFS - that is, the version of NFS that came with your z/OS 1.9 operating system? Mine is in SYS1.NFSLIBE and is on the same volume as SYS1.LINKLIB for example. If that's not the answer, I would open a problem with IBM for assistance. Brian On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:49:41 -0700, Gibbons, Mark wrote: We are bringing up z/os 1.9 using the default for igvnouserkeycsa. The NFS client task abends indicating it is using CSA key 8. Has anyone else run into this? Did you need to make any changes to the NFS client to get around this? Thanks, Mark -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SDSF problems in z/OS 1.9
Hi, We cut over to z/Os 1.9 last week and we’re have some problems: 1. Performance on the Output screen is slow. 2. The order in which multiple SYSOUTS from the same job are displayed on the output screen is wrong. We have jobs that create many sysouts. All of the sysouts have the same parameters (CHARS, FORMDEF, PAGEDEF, CLASS). The job has FREE=CLOSE coded. Once the job finishes and we look at the sysouts in the output screen we see that instead of the order being 1,2,3… it is 1,10,11,2,3…, Or in other words, the sysouts are sorted textually instead of numerically. 3. The order of the jobs on the Status screen is different than it was previously. For example, if I submit a job and it is assigned job number 65000, I wait a while, submit another job and it is assigned job number 100, then the first job (number 65000) will be displays below the second job (number 100). I would like the jobs to be displayed in the order that they were submitted. Our previous operating system was z/OS 1.7, where we had none of the problems. Has anyone seen these problems? Do you know of a fix? Yes, I’ve opened problems with IBM. TIA Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF problems in z/OS 1.9
Gadi, Yes, it is a known issue. We have been fighting it for almost a year. Check into OA24615, PK69442 and especially OA25498. I have been told that the issue does not exist in 1.10 Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of gad...@malam.com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SDSF problems in z/OS 1.9 Hi, We cut over to z/Os 1.9 last week and we're have some problems: 1. Performance on the Output screen is slow. 2. The order in which multiple SYSOUTS from the same job are displayed on the output screen is wrong. We have jobs that create many sysouts. All of the sysouts have the same parameters (CHARS, FORMDEF, PAGEDEF, CLASS). The job has FREE=CLOSE coded. Once the job finishes and we look at the sysouts in the output screen we see that instead of the order being 1,2,3... it is 1,10,11,2,3..., Or in other words, the sysouts are sorted textually instead of numerically. 3. The order of the jobs on the Status screen is different than it was previously. For example, if I submit a job and it is assigned job number 65000, I wait a while, submit another job and it is assigned job number 100, then the first job (number 65000) will be displays below the second job (number 100). I would like the jobs to be displayed in the order that they were submitted. Our previous operating system was z/OS 1.7, where we had none of the problems. Has anyone seen these problems? Do you know of a fix? Yes, I've opened problems with IBM. TIA Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Is there a Web enabled TN3270 on z/10's running z/OS 1.9
Hi Cynthia, Under the web-enabled heading are a several solutions that provide TN3270 emulator, or emulator-like access to Z. IBM does not ship one with Z but has Host on Demand and HATS. Since you are going to replace a real emulator with a web-enabled one, opt for a product that downloads a client to the PC and runs it either inside the browser or as a separate window. There are a variety of ActiveX, Java, and Win32 web-enabled terminal emulators on the market that run directly from the Z/OS HTTP server. Some require the Web Sphere Application Server, while others will run from the Z/OS HTTP server, and do not require an application server. HTML emulators are not really suitable as a general emulator replacement, but are geared more toward casual use, anonymous use, or as the basis for GUI web enablement. Heads-down emulator users will find the HTML emulator too slow and that it operates differently from a real emulator. HTML emulators have their place, but not as an overall replacement for Aviva. Your Aviva users will probably expect a high level of functionality in any replacement you choose. Depending on the size of your organization, there may be some custom applications, macros, scripts, and other automation that have become part of daily operations. These will have to be migrated to the new solution to minimize the impact on the users. The migration also provides an opportunity to get these unmanaged or ad hoc processes under control and centrally managed. Good Luck. Steve Bireley VP BlueZone Product Development Rocket Software www.bluezonesoftware.com Emulation, Integration, File Transfer BlueZone Secure FTP is Free -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF problems in z/OS 1.9
Gadi, IBM is aware of this and they are fixing it with APAR OA27885. The SDSF was changed to work on JES2 or JES3 and in the process they left out the positional parameter which was used in default sort before V1.9. HTH Natarajan גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com 3/19/2009 1:16 AM Hi, We cut over to z/Os 1.9 last week and we’re have some problems: 1. Performance on the Output screen is slow. 2. The order in which multiple SYSOUTS from the same job are displayed on the output screen is wrong. We have jobs that create many sysouts. All of the sysouts have the same parameters (CHARS, FORMDEF, PAGEDEF, CLASS). The job has FREE=CLOSE coded. Once the job finishes and we look at the sysouts in the output screen we see that instead of the order being 1,2,3… it is 1,10,11,2,3…, Or in other words, the sysouts are sorted textually instead of numerically. 3. The order of the jobs on the Status screen is different than it was previously. For example, if I submit a job and it is assigned job number 65000, I wait a while, submit another job and it is assigned job number 100, then the first job (number 65000) will be displays below the second job (number 100). I would like the jobs to be displayed in the order that they were submitted. Our previous operating system was z/OS 1.7, where we had none of the problems. Has anyone seen these problems? Do you know of a fix? Yes, I’ve opened problems with IBM. TIA Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE OF CONFIDENTIALITY The information contained in this communication, including but not limited to any accompanying document(s) and/or attachment(s), is privileged and confidential and is intended solely for the above-named individual(s). If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that any distribution, copying, disclosure, and/or use of the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please destroy all copies of the communication, whether in electronic or hard copy format, and immediately contact the Security Office at EDFUND at (916) 526-7539 or securityoff...@edfund.org. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF problems in z/OS 1.9
Gadi, For ordering jobs by their submission sequence I sort on ST-Date and ST-Time both descending. The job numbers roll over which makes them a bad choice to sort on only when that actually happens. Paul Gillis 3. The order of the jobs on the Status screen is different than it was previously. For example, if I submit a job and it is assigned job number 65000, I wait a while, submit another job and it is assigned job number 100, then the first job (number 65000) will be displays below the second job (number 100). I would like the jobs to be displayed in the order that they were submitted. Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is there a Web enabled TN3270 on z/10's running z/OS 1.9
Although not an answer (I would also suggest something like HOD or HATS) but some years ago Netscape actually packaged 3270 into their Communicator so you can access 3270 sessions via the browser. Basically just a 3270 session in a browser, no transformations, etc. This would be a nice idea for a Firefox plugin so that you could have multiple sessions to tab between but running in your browser (which you can do with the aforementioned products anyway.) http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104STORY=/www/story/66989EDATE= http://sillydog.org/netscape/communicator/guide/IBMHostOnDemand.php Seb. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is there a Web enabled TN3270 on z/10's running z/OS 1.9
Our Windows Server Team is looking for alternatives to our current Aviva solution. Other than using a different tn3270 client application. Does anyone have any suggestions or know of anything on z10's? Not sure if the direction is to run this through an application which would use TN3270 (say CICS) and have it accessible using a Browser. In general HOD is just a 3270 emulator which requires the download of a small JAVA applet to the user's PC. Keep in mind all the emulators do the 3270 data stream conversion to HTML in the PC and HTML to 3270 DataStream. Thus some are called FAT-Clients or maybe HOD could be called a Skinny-Client but the conversion happens at the PC level. If all the users are internal, then it may not be a problem of loading software. If users are external, some do not appreciate their PC being updated with software. In general there was a requirement for outside entities to access systems and the HATS product was chosen. There are samples included and in less than 3 weeks, there was a WEB-like application in production with the only requirement on the end user of having a Browser. If one uses HATS, you have to be running Websphere Application Server either on z/OS, zLinux, or Windows (maybe Linux on Intel). The backend 3270 screens stay the same and the HATS application runs as a JAVA Plug-in with WAS to do the conversion of the 3270 datastream to HTML. Another aspect to keep in mind is how these are development and the need to buy tools. Buying HATS gives you a number of copies of Rational Application Developer to be used exclusively for HATS development. Then one has to buy HIS (Host Information Services) licenses (consists of a license for a user to use HATS, HOD or PCOM). Buying say 500 licenses gets you 5 RAD for HATS development for free. In general there are other vendors software to do the same kind of things. I would definitely ask about having to buy the tools to develop the applications. In the end, the 3270 green screens have not been altered, the HATS screens appear to be a true WEBApp and 99% of the users do not know this is coming from the IBM Enterprise Server (mainframe app of old). In most cases, only the needed information has been taken from the green screen and presented on the web page along with logos, pulldowns, lists, etc. I am told if you can code WORD Style Sheets, then HATS is a breeze. Oh yes, in HATS 7.5 and the new RAD, you can send the green screen to a cellphone. RAD has the development area for ensuring the Webpage will fit onto a cellphone. Have yet to explore that aspect yet, although it sounds like in some cases a CICS application may be needed to interact with one of the users locally as they are riding home on the Metro train. jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Is there a Web enabled TN3270 on z/10's running z/OS 1.9
Our Windows Server Team is looking for alternatives to our current Aviva solution. Other than using a different tn3270 client application. Does anyone have any suggestions or know of anything on z10's? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is there a Web enabled TN3270 on z/10's running z/OS 1.9
On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 10:24 -0400, Cynthia Davis wrote: Our Windows Server Team is looking for alternatives to our current Aviva solution. Other than using a different tn3270 client application. Does anyone have any suggestions or know of anything on z10's? Maybe http://h3270.sourceforge.net might be worth looking at? It requires tomcat, which your friends at Dovetailed Technologies seem to think is do-able on z/OS. Let us know if you get this going. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Is there a Web enabled TN3270 on z/10's running z/OS 1.9
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 07:24:46 -0700, Cynthia Davis wrote: Our Windows Server Team is looking for alternatives to our current Aviva solution. Other than using a different tn3270 client application. Does anyone have any suggestions or know of anything on z10's? What do you mean by web-enabled TN3270? Perhaps if you could provide more information about your requirements we could offer better advice. It is not at all clear what this has to do with your Windows server team. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
